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leafman101
04-14-2014, 09:51 PM
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Paul Stastny ($6.000m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Jaromir Jagr ($4.000m)
Steve Downie ($2.650m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / Peter Holland ($0.851m) / Carter Ashton ($0.851m)
Colton Orr ($0.925m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Morgan Rielly ($0.894m) / Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.500m) / Petter Granberg ($0.800m)
Korbinian Holzer ($0.788m) /

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.970m)

BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
Tim Gleason ($0.833m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $69,411,500;
BONUSES: $950,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,688,500

I will start off by saying that if you can acquire a guy like Staal, or Spezza do it. For these purposes I am assuming no blockbuster steal is available.

Goaltending

Free Agents
Tomas Griess - 1-2 years @ $975k. He is a proven backup with a career .915 starting 20ish games a year. He is the only good established backup on the free agent market and the best option to backup Bernier.

Defense

Buyout
Tim Gleason. Gleason is solid but he just makes too much money. His buyout only costs $833k this year, it goes up to $1.8 million the next year and then two more years at $1.3 million. Not ideal, but manageable with the cap jumping back up in the next few years. If he had one year left maybe you let him play it out, but with two more years that is a total of over $5 mill in savings over the two seasons. Its worth it.

Trade
Beiksa for Franson and Remier. The Leafs just need a solid, reliable defensemen (or two). That is Bieksa. He is just solid and can be counted on in all situations. Plus he is a righty. He would solidify the second pair and allow us to free up Phaneuf and give him more winable situations. Vancouver is looking to rebuild, and they don't have a goalie.

Promotions
Between Granberg, Brennan, Percy, MacWilliams and Holzer they have enough bodies to fill the 6 and 7 slots. I know these are all young, inexpereinced guys. But they aren't high risk Rielly/Gardiner type prospects. Aside from Brennan they are all reliable, safe defenders. Granberg looks like the best of the bunch. He did break up a 3 on 1 and 4 on 1 the other day.

Forwards

Free Agents
Paul Stastny - 5-7 years @ $6 million per. He isn't the ideal addition, but they need center help and he is a legit top 30 center in the NHL. He can solidify the first line without losing offensive ability and allow Bozak to drop down to the third line where he is a better fit. Stastny can win draws (career 52%, this year 54%). He was matched up against other teams top lines this year (1.545 Corsi rel Qual Comp is the 3rd highest among centers this year), and was very effective (2.40 GaOn/60, 10.9 Corsi Rel). He is a very good two way center and would give us a legit #1 if not a great one.

Jaromir Jagr - 1 year @ $4-5. Jagr is two things the Leafs need, a forward that is strong on the puck down low and a gritty vet to show the young guys how its done. To be a 70 point guy in the NHL at 40 takes a ridiculous about of work and dedication. Just having that guy around is a huge benefit to the team. Plus he is Jaromir ****ing Jagr. He adds secondary scoring. He is a beast. Are you still not convinced?

Steve Downie - 1-3 years @ $2.5 mill. Here just sign a bargain winger. Downie could be a good option coming off of a couple of down years. He is mental and aggressive, two things the team lacked this year. He also has a little bit of skill and would be like a Komarov with some scoring ability.

Promotions
Holland, Ashton and D'Amigo all earned spots this year. They are also getting to the age where playing a ton of minutes in the AHL is no longer beneficial. It would give us a solid 4th line that can actually play, and all 3 could move up the lineup easily if there are injuries.

Metalleaf
04-14-2014, 09:53 PM
We have money coming off the books from past buyouts, that should help a bit.

TimHorton
04-14-2014, 09:54 PM
Vancouver isn't trading for another goalie. And if we pay Stastny 6M we're stupider then I thought

Pronger84
04-14-2014, 09:54 PM
Here would be my lineup

JVR-Staal-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Callahan
Stewart-Bolland-Komorov
Bodie- Mcclement-D'mago

Phaneuf-Meyers
Gunnarsson-Rielly
Gleason-Percy

Bernier

* Gardiner is gone in the deal to Carolina

TimHorton
04-14-2014, 09:55 PM
How the hell are you fitting that line up under the cap?

Metalleaf
04-14-2014, 09:56 PM
This isn't NHL 13 man.

Deckie007
04-14-2014, 09:56 PM
How the hell are you fitting that line up under the cap?

Kingston math.

leafman101
04-14-2014, 09:57 PM
Vancouver isn't trading for another goalie. And if we pay Stastny 6M we're stupider then I thought

Why not they think Markstrom is unplayable?

And Stastny is worth it. He is a legit first liner.

soco22
04-14-2014, 09:58 PM
lol, this thread is like three months too early

Metalleaf
04-14-2014, 10:04 PM
Kingston math.

KHL cap system, pay them with hookers and oil.

Leafyblue
04-14-2014, 10:07 PM
Is Jagr worth 4-5 million?

TimHorton
04-14-2014, 10:07 PM
Is Jagr worth 4-5 million?

Yes.

leafman101
04-14-2014, 10:09 PM
Well he did score 67 points this year. Would have been 2nd on the Leafs.

Metalleaf
04-14-2014, 10:09 PM
Jagr is the NHL's version of The Man with No Name. Comes in, does his job, leaves.

TimHorton
04-14-2014, 10:11 PM
Jagr is a one man corsi boost, and he does things with that possession.

Leafyblue
04-14-2014, 10:16 PM
Ok cool...thanks. :)

MindzEye
04-14-2014, 10:23 PM
Kingston math.

York >> Queens

Leafin'
04-14-2014, 10:32 PM
How do you guys get cap geek to show up like that? Im guessing not manually.

MindzEye
04-14-2014, 10:37 PM
Is Jagr worth 4-5 million?

No.

He was worth about 6.5 this year.

Pronger84
04-14-2014, 10:38 PM
York >> Queens

If you can use a fork you can go to York. Queens U>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> York

MyNameIsJonas
04-14-2014, 10:43 PM
If you can use a fork you can go to York. Queens U>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> York

priceless.

leafman101
04-14-2014, 10:43 PM
How do you guys get cap geek to show up like that? Im guessing not manually.

http://www.capgeek.com/ducks/armchair-gm/

Metalleaf
04-14-2014, 10:43 PM
If you've never studied at the University you can't brag about it. Ryerson >> Everyone

MindzEye
04-14-2014, 10:48 PM
If you've never studied at the University you can't brag about it. Ryerson >> Everyone

So...what does a degree in fine arts get you?

Metalleaf
04-14-2014, 10:50 PM
A gallery at the Guggenheim?

Leafin'
04-14-2014, 10:51 PM
http://www.capgeek.com/ducks/armchair-gm/

I know how to make a roster, but how to i copy and paste it here and make it look like that?

rated
04-14-2014, 10:54 PM
So...what does a degree in fine arts get you?

A huge debt.

leafman101
04-14-2014, 10:55 PM
I know how to make a roster, but how to i copy and paste it here and make it look like that?

Click the "text roster" button.

Leafin'
04-14-2014, 10:57 PM
BEAUTY!

F*ckin hell, the entire time i've had popup blocker on. FML

MindzEye
04-14-2014, 11:08 PM
A gallery at the Guggenheim?

I've seen some of the shit at the guggenheim...not really impressive

Leafyblue
04-14-2014, 11:11 PM
Spork>Community College

Leafin'
04-15-2014, 12:18 AM
You guys suck, where are the lineups?!?!

Leafin'
04-15-2014, 01:05 AM
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Paul Stastny ($7.000m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Chris Stewart ($4.150m)
Peter Holland ($1.400m) / Dave Bolland ($4.000m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Troy Bodie ($1.000m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Carter Ashton ($1.000m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Morgan Rielly ($0.894m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Paul Ranger ($1.000m) / Petter Granberg ($0.800m)
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,694,167; BONUSES: $950,000
CAP SPACE (19-man roster): $1,405,833

Kadri + Gleason + Franson for Tyler Myers + Chris Stewart

Gunnarson for Bieksa

Gardiner + 8th for Edmonton 3rd Overall: Either Sam Reinhart or Sam Bennett or Leon Draisaitl

Stastny 7x6 years

If we run tight, don't resign Bolland and go with Holland. Backup goalie could be McIntyre for all i care. If Bernier goes down, we're f*cked regardless.

Hoss
04-15-2014, 07:28 AM
Gardiner + 8th for Edmonton 3rd Overall: Either Sam Reinhart or Sam Bennett or Leon Draisaitl

I really can see this happening. Edmonton could care less for another prospect.... Eakins would probably love to have Gardiner to pair up with Schultz

In the Myers trade you posted I would like to see Gleason replaced by someone else. I think he should stay as our 6th defenseman.

and lastly, I'd love to have a veteran back up goalie....

Some interesting names in the UFA market for goalies. If Bernier's sport hernia is serious, we need someone to have a bigger role.
Top names...
Eliot
Johnson
Halak
Hiller
Nabakov
Hutton

uncus
04-15-2014, 07:36 AM
How about Gardiner, Biggs and Bozak for Bieksa and Kesler

Then use Phaneuf, Reimer, Clarkson to Edmonton for their 1st and 2nd ......

That would leave the leafs with top three pick and their own 8th and Edmontons 2nd in the first 3 rounds.

See if Buffalo would take Franson, Lupul and the 2nd and a fourth for Myers and Stewart.

Next I would find a team that would take a prospect like Percy and a 4th rounder and Gleason for a fifth ... just to get rid of his contract.

I would re-sign McClemmond (1.5 million), Holland (900,000), and Ashton (900,000), Ranger (1,000,000) and then sign free agents Matt Greene

(3.1 million) Matt Moulson (6 million) and Ray Emery (1.5)



JVR Kesler Kessel
Moulson Kadri Stewart
Ashton Holland Downie
Broll McClemmond D`Amigo


Bieksa Myers
Rielly Greene
Gunnerson Ranger


Bernier
Ray Emery



65 million spent, plus the 3rd and 8th picks overall. By the time Kesler leaves in 2 years hopefully one of the youngsters in the minors will be ready

mbow30
04-15-2014, 09:28 AM
to be perfectly honest, if stastny were to work with anybody, imo, it'd be Clarkson.

dude's slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww. he'd be useless with kessel.

Leafin'
04-15-2014, 11:08 AM
I've watched a few Aves games, and Stastny is not that slow.

Didn't he play well between JVR and Kessel at the Olympics? I thought i saw them on the ice together for stretches.

MindzEye
04-15-2014, 11:32 AM
to be perfectly honest, if stastny were to work with anybody, imo, it'd be Clarkson.

dude's slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww. he'd be useless with kessel.

Would also work with Lupul, & JVR

and I think you're overstating his lack of speed. He's about average, but yes on this team would look like a bit of a plodder on the rush. He would almost instantly improve our offensive zone puck possession and or defensive zone play though. He's a quality 2 way centre and short of an unlikely move to land Spezza or Staal, is easily the biggest upgrade available.

mbow30
04-15-2014, 11:33 AM
no i'm not. we went through this last year. he is slow.

he'd be the slowest skater on the team.

MindzEye
04-15-2014, 11:40 AM
no i'm not. we went through this last year. he is slow.

he'd be the slowest skater on the team.

Yeah, and I called you wrong last year too. Watched him play a few times this season and still think you're wrong.

Leafin'
04-15-2014, 11:42 AM
Yea he's not that slow.

He's the best defensively among Spezza and Staal.

Staal to me would be the ideal get, but he'd be expensive to get in terms of what we have to give up.

mbow30
04-15-2014, 11:45 AM
Yeah, and I called you wrong last year too. Watched him play a few times this season and still think you're wrong.

he really is.

i'm not even saying don't go out and get him.

but he's slow.

Volcanologist
04-15-2014, 11:50 AM
I think Clarkson can go back to a 15-20 goal player if we even had one line whose game it was to play the boards and cycle. We don't have that right now, but you'd think that would change by default with the player and coaching turnover we're about to execute.

Corky27
04-15-2014, 11:54 AM
To be honest with you , i don't know how Clarkson got 5 goals. I think that total could drop.

BG
04-15-2014, 12:09 PM
I like Stastny as a player, but hasn't Bozak already shown that he can do everything Stas does, for less.

Guy played at a 25g/70pt pace this season.

Metalleaf
04-15-2014, 12:11 PM
Bozak played at that pace...but Statsny is a better player.

BG
04-15-2014, 12:19 PM
Bozak played at that pace...but Statsny is a better player.

Stas played at a 25g/70pt pace too.

Neither is terribly big or physical, both are good at face-offs.. is a marginal difference worth an extra $1.5-$2mil?

Cojo
04-15-2014, 12:20 PM
Hells no

rated
04-15-2014, 12:21 PM
bozak/kadri
bozak/statsny

isn't really that much impressive one over the other either way

if we're going to touch the top 2 center lines we need to go big like the ppl suggesting eric staal.

MindzEye
04-15-2014, 12:29 PM
Stas played at a 25g/70pt pace too.

Neither is terribly big or physical, both are good at face-offs.. is a marginal difference worth an extra $1.5-$2mil?

Fwiw, Statsny is used in far more difficult defensive match up situations and has scored at similar levels previously, over entire seasons when Bozak has only done it over 2 very isolated periods, and in this last one, had two premier wingers flanking him.

Metalleaf
04-15-2014, 12:31 PM
Stastny's "bad seasons" have been 53 and 57 point seasons, his best was 79...Bozak won't ever hit 79.

Volcanologist
04-15-2014, 12:43 PM
What we really need is a Peter Stastny, not a Paul. I don't see the sense in locking up more cap in a non-elite talent down the middle, it will only make it even harder to get that player.

Unless Bozak/Kadri is traded and we need another #2 calibre centreman, of course...then it could make some sense as a replacement.

leafman101
04-15-2014, 02:20 PM
Stasnty would be our best center by a mile. They need to improve up the middle. It is a necessity.

Stastny may not be the ideal choice, but at this point he is the best one.

MindzEye
04-15-2014, 02:25 PM
What we really need is a Peter Stastny, not a Paul. I don't see the sense in locking up more cap in a non-elite talent down the middle, it will only make it even harder to get that player.

Unless Bozak/Kadri is traded and we need another #2 calibre centreman, of course...then it could make some sense as a replacement.

I'm on the fence when it comes to a stastny acquisition, but where I see the logic is that once you're done kicking all the tires on the 15-20 centres in the league better than him, if you're not getting a Spezza or a Staal, then we have a choice. Lean on Bozak + Kadri and a 2.5-4 million dollar centre acquisition for the 3rd line, or spend a few million more on Stastny to at least upgrade the position. He would immediately become our best matchup option against opposition top lines (which frankly, gets Kessel the **** away from having to play defence against 1st lines...which is good). He's good enough to drive a line on his own with adequate wingers and puts us in a better position to shelter Kadri's matchups and see if a kids like Leivo, Ashton, etc who have AHL offensive pedigree, can put up points off of some of Naz's tasty dishes.


Without getting into some crazier scenarios, here's sort of what that could look like

Lupul (5.25) - Bozak (4.2) - Kessel (8.0)
JVR (4.25) - Stastny (6.0) - Clarkson (5.25)
D'Amigo (.85) - Kadri (2.9) - C.Stewart (4.15)
Ashton (.85) - Holland (1.2) - Whoever
Whoever

Phaneuf (7.0) - Pitkanen/Zidlicky (4.5)
Gunnar (3.15) - Gardiner (2.0)
Ranger (1.5) - Rielly (.89)
Granberg (.8)

Bernier (2.9)
Greiss (1.75)

Total damage = ~ 68.5 million

soco22
04-15-2014, 02:38 PM
Why is assumption that's stats will only cost 6m? Cap is going up and he's the best Center in a weak market.

But I don't want to give big years to anyone, if not the final answer. Rather wait another year then give term to a stop gap to what we actually need.

MindzEye
04-15-2014, 03:02 PM
Why is assumption that's stats will only cost 6m? Cap is going up and he's the best Center in a weak market.

But I don't want to give big years to anyone, if not the final answer. Rather wait another year then give term to a stop gap to what we actually need.

Ribeiro was the best centre in a weak market last season and got what, 5.5?

soco22
04-15-2014, 03:07 PM
Ribeiro was the best centre in a weak market last season and got what, 5.5?

With a shrinking cap from year before. Different environment this year. Wouldn't be surprised if he can get more, assuming cap is going up as everyone seems to report on tv

MindzEye
04-15-2014, 03:46 PM
With a shrinking cap from year before. Different environment this year. Wouldn't be surprised if he can get more, assuming cap is going up as everyone seems to report on tv

I don't think the difference is worth discussing. Can he get 6.25 or even 6.5 out of something? Maybe.

leafman101
04-15-2014, 04:31 PM
Stastny isn't a stop gap. He isn't a top 15 franchise center, but barring getting one of those who are never available he is the best you will do. 23rd in scoring among centers over the last 3 years, top defensive center, and top faceoff guy. All around he is a legit 1st line center.

He's a Bergeron type.

Leafin'
04-15-2014, 08:55 PM
Im not sure about Bergeron type, but he's an upgrade for sure.

Unless a trade comes up for Staal, i would be making a move for Stastny.

Metalleaf
04-15-2014, 08:57 PM
Stastny is in Bergeron territory just based on price, not necessarily because they're similar, cause they aren't.

leafman101
04-15-2014, 08:59 PM
They are similar. They are both good two way first line centers that do everything well and are hard to play against. They both have skill and scored a lot as younger players but have developed into two way players.

Stastny was used the same way Bergeron is this year.

Leafin'
04-15-2014, 09:00 PM
I like Stastny for 2 reasons:

He has shown good chemistry with JVR and Kessel.

He plays good 2 way hockey.

leafman101
04-21-2014, 08:38 AM
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Paul Stastny ($6.500m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / Jarome Iginla ($7.000m)
XXXX ($1.000m) Sam Bennett ($0.975m) / Jaromir Jagr ($5.000m)
Jerry D'Amigo ($0.851m) / Peter Holland ($0.851m) / Carter Ashton ($0.851m)
Jamie Devane ($0.660m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Morgan Rielly ($0.894m) / Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m)
Andrei Markov ($6.500m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.375m)
Stuart Percy ($0.863m) / Petter Granberg ($0.800m)
Andrew MacWilliam ($0.875m) /

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.750m)

BUYOUTS
Tim Gleason ($0.833m)

RETAINED SALARIES (2.95% of upper limit)
David Clarkson ($2.100m—40.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000;
CAP PAYROLL: $70,144,000;
BONUSES: $4,275,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $123,000

Trades:
Picks for Owuya
#8, Gardiner, Franson and Clarkson (eat $2.1 mill) for #3
Bozak for picks

Free Agents
Jagr 1 year $4-5 million
Iginla 2 years $6-$7 million per
Markov 3 years $5-$7 million per
Stastny 5-7 years $6.5 million per
Bargain 3rd line winger (see: Raymond/Clarkson)

Buyout
Gleason

mbow30
04-21-2014, 11:19 AM
another guy who might be available is o'reilly, who needs to be qualified at 6.5.

he shifted to the wing this year to make room in the top six for mackinnon, but he's strong on the draw and was basically used as a centre in the d-zone. he also put up similar numbers to stastny (4 more points in 9 more gp).

at 23, he also has some room for growth. and the fact that he can bounce between LW and C could make him a useful fit here beside Kadri, who could use a defensive minded LW who can take tough faceoffs...

MyNameIsJonas
04-21-2014, 12:01 PM
there are a number of D that i think Colorado would want off the Leafs.

And if they ever decided to move on from Dion, Avs are a team to watch.

Bleedsblue&white
04-21-2014, 12:19 PM
I wonder what happens in Leafland if Shanny decides that, whether due to contracts or philosophy, this team will have to play another year mostly as is, with the playoffs possibly a dream, but we get another top ten pick?
We have some difficult contracts for sure...it's possible that we can't do much.

Pronger84
04-21-2014, 12:49 PM
Trades:
Picks for Owuya
#8, Gardiner, Franson and Clarkson (eat $2.1 mill) for #3
Bozak for picks

Free Agents
Jagr 1 year $4-5 million
Iginla 2 years $6-$7 million per
Markov 3 years $5-$7 million per
Stastny 5-7 years $6.5 million per
Bargain 3rd line winger (see: Raymond/Clarkson)

Buyout
Gleason

I agree and disagree with your trade/free agent ideas:
1. Trading Oduywa for a pick? sure why not
2. Disagree with that- You'd be trading a bunch of assets for the 3rd overall pick but how can you be sure the player you want will still be available? It's a huge gamble and not worth losing all those assets for
3. No problems with trading Bozak, espically if a guy like Statsny or even Staal can be acquired
4. I'm not a big fan of signing Jagr due to his age, but hey if he's signed it wouldn't be the worst thing this team has done
5. I'd love to get Iginla, makes perfect sense to sign him to a two year bridge deal. It would allow for younger guys to develop in the Marlies and not be rushed up here, ala a Detroit. However, he wants to win a cup and the Leafs are nowhere ready to win one in the next 2-5 years... I don't think he signs here even if you back up the brinks truck at his house.
6. No thanks to Markov, IMO he's just not the right fit here and he's extremely injury prone
7. Bring on Statsny, he would bolster this team down the middle.
8. Why in the **** would u buy out Gleason? He has two years left on his deal, granted he's overpaid a bit BUT he's the exact type of player the Leafs need.

leafman101
04-21-2014, 01:23 PM
Gleason is overpaid. That is exactly why. You save over $3 mill a year the next 2 season and its only a $833k cap hit.

I don't have much interest in paying a #6/7 dman $4 mill a year, especially when we have young, cheap depth at the position.

Pronger84
04-21-2014, 01:52 PM
Gleason is overpaid. That is exactly why. You save over $3 mill a year the next 2 season and its only a $833k cap hit.

I don't have much interest in paying a #6/7 dman $4 mill a year, especially when we have young, cheap depth at the position.

I get that he's overpaid, but with the cap going up bottom pairing guys are making that kind of dough... hell just look at Macdonald who's making $6M a season over the next 5 years.

Gleason brings intanigbles to this team that we badly lack, and its not like he's tied up for long term, he's got 2 years left and him being here for another 1-2 years allows guys in the Marlies to further develop their games and not be rushed to join the club.

leafman101
04-21-2014, 02:06 PM
Bottom pairing dmen aren't making that type of money. He is making very good 2nd pair money, and he might not even be in our top 6. He was pretty bad down the stretch.

That money can be better spend elsewhere, which has to be a major factor in a cap world.

At the very least it can be spent on a better version of Gleason like Morris or Mitchell.

Leafin'
04-21-2014, 05:58 PM
I like the team. Not perfect.

Clarkson i doubt is getting traded. I love Iginla and what he could bring to this team. He was who i hoped we could've signed instead of that suckass Clarkson. Jagr same deal.

Markov, not a fan. Oduya, same thing. Gleason i would buy out. But to just get it right, its a $833k Cap hit for the next 4 years? I like what Gleason had brought to the table early on, but he sh*t the bed at the end. Tough call as the entire team was junk.

Stastny i like, i think he might get a bit more than 6.5.

GEEMAN
04-21-2014, 08:40 PM
I like the team. Not perfect.

Clarkson i doubt is getting traded. I love Iginla and what he could bring to this team. He was who i hoped we could've signed instead of that suckass Clarkson. Jagr same deal.

Markov, not a fan. Oduya, same thing. Gleason i would buy out. But to just get it right, its a $833k Cap hit for the next 4 years? I like what Gleason had brought to the table early on, but he sh*t the bed at the end. Tough call as the entire team was junk.

Stastny i like, i think he might get a bit more than 6.5.

Stastny will get stupid money as he is the best forward available in the market , the Leafs can free up money to get him but are you going to play Bozak as # 3 if you retain Kadri , something has to give .

Bolland I wouldnt give more than 3 years , so he is leaving for the the best offer handed to him.

Leafin'
04-21-2014, 09:35 PM
We need to go out and get a center, no doubt. If we go into next season with Bozak - Kadri as our 1-2, we are in big trouble. Something needs to be done to improve that. Maybe a trade with Vancouver, where Lupul + Franson + something go for an Edler and Kesler.

Pronger84
04-21-2014, 10:11 PM
Stastny will get stupid money as he is the best forward available in the market , the Leafs can free up money to get him but are you going to play Bozak as # 3 if you retain Kadri , something has to give .

Bolland I wouldnt give more than 3 years , so he is leaving for the the best offer handed to him.

We need to get much better down the middle faceoff wise, last year it looked like this- Bozak (48.7%), Kadri (45.2%), Bolland (45.1%), Holland (46.7%), Mcclement (53.6%). Only one of those guys had a winning faceoff % and he was our 4th line C, bottom line is you wont' win many games when you have to resort to chasing the puck more often then not.

Statsny would be a solid acquistion, forget about the point totals for a second here... the guy won 54.1% of his draws last season and in the previous 5 years he has averaged higher then 50% in each season... this is the kind of guy we need to have anchoring the top line.

As for Kadri, someone has to sit that kid down and teach him the art of HOW to win a faceoff, if he's gonna be our 2C then he has to learn to improve in that area.

Bolland's an interesting subject, the guy reaks on faceoffs, ironic given he's a supposed shut down centre BUT on the other hand the guy when healthy is gifted at shutting down the other team's best players and is clutch when it comes to the playoffs. I'd actually switch him to wing, and I'd offer him no more then a 2 year deal worth about 3-3.25 per, until he can show me he remains healthy I don't offer him more then that bridge deal.

I can't harp on this enough, puck possession is won off the faceoffs, the more you win them the more you have the puck... the more you lose the more time you spend chasing the puck around trying to get it back, this is a big time area I feel that the Leafs need to upgrade/improve on.

Bleedsblue&white
04-22-2014, 01:17 PM
Clarkson i doubt is getting traded.

Stastny i like, i think he might get a bit more than 6.5.

If they manage to trade Clarkson, our GM is elevated to God Emperor.
I'd like Stastny here too.

mbow30
04-22-2014, 02:21 PM
The good news about next year's team is that Colton Orr is still under contract on a bargain deal.

MindzEye
04-22-2014, 03:05 PM
Yeah, thank god we locked him up to a multi year deal before the cap increased, eh?

Wayward DP
04-22-2014, 03:20 PM
I hope we have McLaren locked up too

Metalleaf
04-22-2014, 03:32 PM
I hope we have McLaren locked up too

We do. 1 more year at $700K.

Wayward DP
04-22-2014, 03:45 PM
We do. 1 more year at $700K.

Phew. At a bargain rate too!

Bleedsblue&white
04-22-2014, 04:30 PM
The good news about next year's team is that Colton Orr is still under contract on a bargain deal.

Awesome, he's one of our most valuable assets in trade talks.