Habsy
Yes, I'm kidding people.
Way too early. You have no idea if Lindgren will continue to be good.
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GDT: Game #18 | Sabres vs. Canadiens | Nov. 11, 2017
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Habs-25
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I know that, i mean eventually. and if Lindgern shit the bed, then with 4-5 millions you can find plenty quality goalies off season. At the end worst come to the worst this team miss playoff this year. It is not like we have been a contender or won many cups in last 25 years.
Sal_Butera
Well-known member
Yeah I’m sure one of the highest debt ratio ownership groups will go for that approach
Habs-25
Banned
What this team have achieved in last 25 years? Big Fat Zero!
You keep repeating this as if it is Gospel but from what source do you make this alegation?
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
I will get banned again soon, worry not.
It's made its owners a LOT of money. That's all they care about.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Question should be -- are we good enough with Price or better off with Charlie and $9.5M in cap space?
Agreed that's the starting point to debate this . It could be Charlie or a vet .
Goaltending is superior now than decades ago . They are super athletic , bigger , and with their equipment cover much more net than before .
Cup winners haven't relied on a goalie to carry them since Roy and they don't have to be the highest paid on the team or even be in the top 5 in goalie player rankings among that group .
Elite talent with enough goaltending is all you need .
Problem is we haven't had enough talent for a decade and don't have the depth or asset capital to acquire it .
31 is injury prone and I think we milked every drop of that lemon's best years .
We aren't a 31 away from winning anything anytime soon and he has been outplayed in many playoff rounds .
Forget cap space or jr's debt levels , couldn't care less .
It's about winning and building for a cup , and it's not happening with this group and the soon to be albatross deal we just caved for on a team treading water for a decade .
legoalie
LeAdminie
You need a franchise goalie to win a cup. As a fan I don't care how long our goalie is signed for or at what price, all I care about is the next game and THIS season.. it's the GM's job to worry about that not mine.. we need a number 1 L d-man and another A center man and this club can do damage..
That's not as easy as you think.
There are quite a few teams that still have question marks in net they've been trying to fix for a couple of years.
In essence those would be the teams calling about Price
Altair
Well-known member
Do you? Doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
Looking at the franchise goalies right now, holtby, price, Lundqvist, rinne maybe, quick, and I see 2 cups.
GrandWazoo
Well-known member
What's your definition of a franchise goalie?
Habs53
Active member
Habs-25
Banned
Sorry man, i stopped reading the rest of your post. That is exactly kind of old school mentality which stopped this organisation to take any risk and move forward.
legoalie
LeAdminie
Of course Quick is a franchise goalie. The last decade pretty much every team that won the cup has had a franchise goalie. The Penguins had Fleury and Murray , both have proven they are, Hawks have Crawford, Kings have Quick, Bruins had Thomas . etc... Not one of these teams gambled with an average goalie... I know some are shaking their heads on say Crawford or Fleury, but the fact and results show that they are.. had a great talk with Duncan Keith last summer and he said to a man, every one on Hawks would say that they don't win without the play Crawford... yes franchise goalie's struggle at times, some even have bad seasons, shit Roy falls into having bad seasons.. it amazes me that people forget that...
legoalie
LeAdminie
Name me a team in the last 10 years that won a cup without a franchise goalie ?
GrandWazoo
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10 years? I'd say Anti Niemi and Chris Osgood (although Osgood was quite good in the playoffs).
legoalie
LeAdminie
Anti would be an exception, why would the Hawks not keep him ? instead they went with Crawford.. Osgood is a franchise goalie imo for the reasons you state.. so 1 out of 10...in a decade, pretty low percentage ... yea lets build that way...
Sal_Butera
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There have also been perennial contenders who failed to take the next step let alone win due to lack of adequate goaltending - STL & SJS come to mind. Unless a team is stacked which was the case for Niemi’s Hawks and Osgood’s Wings a team needs a very good goalie to win the Cup - TBay might be the only team in the NHL this season that qualifies as stacked and they have a good goalie albeit inexperienced.
The question though is whether a team can field a competitive contender with a goalie making more than 10% of the cap. Are the Habs that significantly better served with the extra $3M in cap hit to Price vs a $6M-$7M goalie and using the savings towards addressing other needs.
Unfortunately it become obvious the only way to address other needs is seemingly via drafting & development.
The question though is whether a team can field a competitive contender with a goalie making more than 10% of the cap. Are the Habs that significantly better served with the extra $3M in cap hit to Price vs a $6M-$7M goalie and using the savings towards addressing other needs.
Unfortunately it become obvious the only way to address other needs is seemingly via drafting & development.
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