OT: The Toronto Blue Jays
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CaptainBolduke
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It ended up working out because we needed someone to play due to the injuries.
Goins himself is actually worse than he's even been. The majority of his current season numbers are below his own career norms, which obviously aren't lofty. I think he's something like 2 for his last 22.
His dWar is actually negative right now for the first time in his career.
His increased playing time has not only hurt the team, but it's also hurt him.
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UWHabs
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Yeah, the fact that we're praising someone who's been worth 0 WAR this season is a problem. As well as the fact that Pillar and Martin have only barely caught Donaldson for WAR. And that the 2 biggest FA signings of the off-season in JB and Morales have been worth a combined -0.8 WAR.
CaptainBolduke
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Morales is the poster child of Shatkins mis-management and mediocrity.
MyNameIsJonas
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Yeah, im okay not paying EE with a possible rebuild being needed, but i would have been much cooler with nothing at DH as opposed to Morales.
The position always needed to be filled with someone who could field a position, so that Jose, Martin and Tulo could get DH days, and preferably someone short term.
Morales is neither of that.
The position always needed to be filled with someone who could field a position, so that Jose, Martin and Tulo could get DH days, and preferably someone short term.
Morales is neither of that.
UWHabs
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Jays are close to signing two of the top international free agents. Including a 16 yo who is said to be one of the best in the group.
Hard to figure out how we can sign 2 top guys with a fixed hard cap.
LeafOfFaith
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Hope they figure it out.
We need some serious infusion of top young talent in the organization.
Deckie007
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i guess...but those guys would be like 6 years away or something...there's actually a fair amount of young talent already coming, just have to wait a couple years...Aldford, Tellez and Vladdy should all be decent contributors and hopefully we get something decent when we inevitably have to trade Donaldson, Estrada and Happ.
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LeafOfFaith
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Sucks that the window closed on this core.
It was so ****ing promising the last couple of years.
And now seemingly abruptly over.
It was so ****ing promising the last couple of years.
And now seemingly abruptly over.
It wasn't abruptly. Their previous GM went for it knowing he was gone at the end of the year, without actually going all out (thanks to Rogers), and their current GM simply decided that improvements weren't warranted and he should just wait the roster out. A playoffs birth, but not a WS, was all but guranteed when Alex knew he was gone; a crash, whether rock bottom or simply a 500 team, was guranteed once Cleveland North was hired.
The common theme? the ownership who looks at this team as just another department.
This collapse was totally expected . Team blew its brains out mortgaging the future and had a nice 2 year run . Pitching was lights out with no major injuries and the bats were producing .
There was no way that pitching staff was going to avoid injury or production setbacks this year , and age , decline was evident with the bats at some point .
Morales at 1/2 EE`s salary was a good value pick up and this team peaked and the rebuild is now upon us .
I expect to be sellers in a month .
CaptainBolduke
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Is the Toronto media gonna praise Barney like they praise Goins? Or just let it slide per usual?