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    So Pearce is a better hitter than Morales historically, recently, and is crushing Morales this spring.

    there's no legitimate reason to not have Pearce DHing opening day, Imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    So Pearce is a better hitter than Morales historically, recently, and is crushing Morales this spring.

    there's no legitimate reason to not have Pearce DHing opening day, Imo.
    11 Million dollars, sadly

    Pearce only really crushes LHP historically, and he's already going to be in the lineup vs LHP, and Morales was actually decent to good vs LHP as well, you probably want them both in.

    Vs RHP however, there is a strong argument to be made that Solarte steal PA from the big, stupid, lumbering Cuban

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    11 Million dollars, sadly

    Pearce only really crushes LHP historically, and he's already going to be in the lineup vs LHP, and Morales was actually decent to good vs LHP as well, you probably want them both in.

    Vs RHP however, there is a strong argument to be made that Solarte steal PA from the big, stupid, lumbering Cuban
    Yeah, it's not horrid to have them both in the lineup vs LHP, although given the lineup swings pretty heavy right-handed anyways so if we had a better OF option, I wouldn't mind seeing Pearce at DH and the other guy in LF.

    But yeah, I do think Solarte getting more ABs is tempting. Would also be nice to use the spot to rotate a little more. Give JD and Travis a day every week or 2 at DH to keep them fresher, and Solarte can play 2B/3B those days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UWHabs View Post
    Yeah, it's not horrid to have them both in the lineup vs LHP, although given the lineup swings pretty heavy right-handed anyways so if we had a better OF option, I wouldn't mind seeing Pearce at DH and the other guy in LF.

    But yeah, I do think Solarte getting more ABs is tempting. Would also be nice to use the spot to rotate a little more. Give JD and Travis a day every week or 2 at DH to keep them fresher, and Solarte can play 2B/3B those days.
    I have to think that was a strong part of his appeal.

    I'm curious what the Diaz/Espinosa split is under Gibby while Tulo works himself out of the shallow grave that everyone buried him in.

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    Last 2yrs

    Morales 85wrc+ vRHP, 155wrc+ vLHP
    Pearce 109wrc+ vRHP, 133wrc+ vLHP

    Pearce should play every day, at DH vRHP and LF vLHP.

    Morales should only play at DH vLHP.
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    Ideally Morales is released before the season starts but that won't happen. Best case is he gets beat for playing time and they can DFA him early in the season. I'd bet May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsJonas View Post
    I have to think that was a strong part of his appeal.

    I'm curious what the Diaz/Espinosa split is under Gibby while Tulo works himself out of the shallow grave that everyone buried him in.
    If Diaz hits, then Espinosa as a late defensive replacement. If Diaz doesn't hit we may see some interesting lineups, maybe even Solarte at SS some days.

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    I think the reason Diaz gets benched is cause he cant hit enough to justify the glove, Solarte also has a bad SS glove.


    I also hope they give a long look to sitting Pillar vs RHP, at least some of it, and rolling with Grichuk in CF, Grandy in LF and Solarte/Pearce in RF

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    As far as Kendrys i general, if he's still bad for the first 2 months and either Pearce is worthy of more PA in Toronto, or Teoscar is in AAA, then i can see a release or a benching.

    But they owe it to themselves to give im 6-8 weeks to see if he bounces back, dude was in the top 3rd of the league in hard hit and barrelled balls. If he truly is working on getting the ball in the air at a higher rate, it's worthwhile to see if that pays any sort of dividends. The fact he came in trimmer shows at minimum a desire on his part to address his shittyness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsJonas View Post
    As far as Kendrys i general, if he's still bad for the first 2 months and either Pearce is worthy of more PA in Toronto, or Teoscar is in AAA, then i can see a release or a benching.

    But they owe it to themselves to give im 6-8 weeks to see if he bounces back, dude was in the top 3rd of the league in hard hit and barrelled balls. If he truly is working on getting the ball in the air at a higher rate, it's worthwhile to see if that pays any sort of dividends. The fact he came in trimmer shows at minimum a desire on his part to address his shittyness.
    So in other words; maybe he will hit more homeruns?

    Cause he's not gonna run out triples, run out doubles, run out singles, run out double plays, walk, bunt, play defense or pinch run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsJonas View Post
    But they owe it to themselves to give im 6-8 weeks to see if he bounces back,
    bounce back to what? the guys he's competing with have as much hitting upside as he does.
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    Also, Shapiro doesn't "owe himself" anything. Shapiro should be old enough now to understand when he's made a mistake and just move on.

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    I love this team's starting pitching. I hate the hitting.
    Prediction" Sanchez wins the Cy Young.

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    I love this team's starting pitching. I hate the hitting.
    Prediction" Sanchez wins the Cy Young.

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    The OF hitting is terrible. This team is heavily dependent on Donaldson.

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    Fangraphs Positional rankings Update

    3B 1st
    C 9th
    2B 11th
    SS 11th
    CF 12th
    1B 12th
    RF 13th
    LF 15th
    DH 9th (of 15)

    SP 13th
    RP 18th


    So nothing surprising - one elite slot surrounded by a whole lotta average. All things being equal, that probably means playoff contention. If more of those average slots turn into bad slots than good slots, though, we're pooched.

    One thing I'll add, though, is that these slots aren't created equal. SP is probably worth 7 of the positional slots and the bullpen another 2. Or something like that.

    And given that SP is by far the most valuable of any slot here, I'll point out my one major quibble with all the projections - the projection of Aaron Sanchez as a 2-2.5war pitcher even if healthy. In my biased opinion, Sanchez is just plain better than that, by a lot.
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    Pillar is worse than 12th

    If you cant see that the defence has deteriorated and he has zero other skillset then i can't really help you.

    Grichuk and Grandy/Pearce are underrated corners though, and Hernandez/Alford will be here at some point in 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsJonas View Post
    Pillar is worse than 12th

    If you cant see that the defence has deteriorated and he has zero other skillset then i can't really help you.

    Grichuk and Grandy/Pearce are underrated corners though, and Hernandez/Alford will be here at some point in 2018
    he had a couple of bad months defensively to start the year, but that doesn't mean his defense has permanently deteriorated. He was still a top-25 defensive player last year, and one of the elite defensive CFs in baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyNameIsJonas View Post
    Pillar is worse than 12th

    If you cant see that the defence has deteriorated and he has zero other skillset then i can't really help you.

    Grichuk and Grandy/Pearce are underrated corners though, and Hernandez/Alford will be here at some point in 2018
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    Fangraphs Positional rankings Update

    3B 1st
    C 9th
    2B 11th
    SS 11th
    CF 12th
    1B 12th
    RF 13th
    LF 15th
    DH 9th (of 15)

    SP 13th
    RP 18th


    So nothing surprising - one elite slot surrounded by a whole lotta average. All things being equal, that probably means playoff contention. If more of those average slots turn into bad slots than good slots, though, we're pooched.

    One thing I'll add, though, is that these slots aren't created equal. SP is probably worth 7 of the positional slots and the bullpen another 2. Or something like that.

    And given that SP is by far the most valuable of any slot here, I'll point out my one major quibble with all the projections - the projection of Aaron Sanchez as a 2-2.5war pitcher even if healthy. In my biased opinion, Sanchez is just plain better than that, by a lot.
    I see Travis and Martin being better and Smoak being much worse. I understand these projections include depth, but those these players are very important for the Jays.

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