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    the beginning of the end of America the world superpower (or are we in the middle already?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    and more..


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    The longest economic expansion in American history is 120 months.

    The Trump budget projects our current expansion will surpass 220 months of consecutive growth.


    And all of this is without the costs of a prolonged war versus North Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayward DP View Post
    the beginning of the end of America the world superpower (or are we in the middle already?)
    No.
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    As a candidate, Trump promised to eliminate $19 trillion in debt over 8 years.

    Instead, by his own very rosy scenario, he will add almost $1 trillion per year to the debt.

    White House response is that you shouldn't take Trump's promises literally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altair View Post
    No.
    Of the US as a superpower...I agree. Of the US as the main broker of power in a unipolar world?
    That Imo is clearly ending way before it otherwise would have.
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    As a candidate, Trump promised to eliminate $19 trillion in debt over 8 years.

    Instead, by his own very rosy scenario, he will add almost $1 trillion per year to the debt.

    White House response is that you shouldn't take Trump's promises literally.
    And Trudeau promises 4 years of 10 billion dollar deficits.

    Politicians are not to be taken seriously when it comes to promises about money, you should know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindzEye View Post
    Of the US as a superpower...I agree. Of the US as the main broker of power in a unipolar world?
    That Imo is clearly ending way before it otherwise would have.
    Nothing that a strong leader taking power in 2020 can't solve. Trump has not yet done irreparable damage in that regard, not yet at least.

    In terms of hard power the US is unchallenged, in terms of soft power it's being spanked right now, but the damage isn't permanent, and in the terms of economic power, only China is a worthy adversary and even then, it's going to take a long time for the global economic order to shift from New York to Beijing. And we are of course assuming China can keep its system held together with a increasingly worldly,wealthy, techy and assertive middle class running up against corrupt rigid communist political structure.

    The thing about superpowers is that there can be more than one at a time, the soviet union and america for example, but the only way for one to fall out of that category is for another to eclipse it in every way, like Russia after the breakup of the USSR.

    And as long as America is a superpower they will retain some their power as a power broker, and it can wait out shitty leaders.
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    America's internal fights will take away from its international power.
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    America's internal fights will take away from its international power.
    True, a ever increasing challenge facing every President since they have won the cold war. Without a external force for Americans to unite against they tend to start fighting more and more against themselves. And, in the case of the Republicans, even among their own party.

    I do have faith that in any true international threat that Americans still have it in them to come together.
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    Sounds like you're talking about the Roman Empire.

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    #FireJulien#FireMarcBergevin Burn Geoff Molson in effigy! #worstmanagementstaffever

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    Oh dear god, this story never dies.

    Someone wake me up when its over, one way or another.
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    “I would say there’s probably never been a more discouraging time for those concerned about the debt and the deficit because even our allies have taken a powder,” said Bradford Cook, a New Hampshire lawyer and longtime donor to the Concord Coalition, which advocates for fiscal responsibility in Washington.

    “I used to be optimistic that we might be able to have some influence,” Cook added. Now, “we’re kind of that voice crying in the wilderness.”

    After deficits ballooned during the last recession, President Barack Obama established a bipartisan commission charged with figuring out how to rein things in, known as Simpson-Bowles after its co-chairmen, former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) and Erskine Bowles.

    While Obama and Republicans in Congress failed to strike a “grand bargain” based on the commission’s recommendations, annual deficits shrunk anyway due to spending cuts, the expiration of some of President George W. Bush’s tax cuts and an improving economy.

    President Donald Trump vowed during the 2016 campaign that he’d go further, telling The Washington Post he’d get rid of the full national debt — which at the time stood at more than $19 trillion — within eight years if he won. (The Post’s fact-checker ruled that impossible and chided him for “insulting the intelligence of Americans” by suggesting it could be done.)


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    Proof that everyone can do a nice thing now and again.

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/2...ancer-donation
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    Obama's portrait - a stark contrast to predecessors with inappropriate sexual innuendo https://www.hannity.com/media-room/p...illing-whitey/


    somebody got aroused by that portrait.
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    Yesterday, the White House said Rob Porter’s background check was still in progress when news of his domestic violence came up last week.

    Today, the FBI director said they’d informed the White House 4 times of Rob Porter’s domestic violence last year.
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