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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    I've been trying to ignore this because it's so depressing.

    But in all the hours of this hearing, Grassley didn't ask one single question regarding russian interference in the election. not one.
    The person who should be the most terrified about this, is Habsy. But then again, Grassley and Drumpf are both Republican, so whatevs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by axlsalinger View Post
    The person who should be the most terrified about this, is Habsy. But then again, Grassley and Drumpf are both Republican, so whatevs.
    Pretty much
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    You two are so cute. I'm grateful to have you as my digital conscience. I don't know how I've made it this far without your sage counsel.
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    Canada strike back

    This is going to be fun.

    'Canada has just detonated a bomb': Trade relations with U.S. plummet after WTO complaint: http://nationalpost.com/news/economy...9-80398165cb8b

    Canada launched the opening salvo in a trade war with the United States Wednesday, lodging an international complaint about the superpower’s use of punitive duties.

    The move drew a sharp rebuke from Donald Trump’s trade czar and came amid reports that Canadian government officials say there’s an increasing likelihood the president will withdraw from the three-nation North American Free Trade Association.

    “Even if Canada succeeded on these groundless claims, other countries would primarily benefit, not Canada. Canada’s complaint is bad for Canada,” said U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer.

    “Canada’s claims are unfounded and could only lower U.S. confidence that Canada is committed to mutually beneficial trade.”

    Canada lodged a World Trade Organization complaint accusing the U.S. of regularly breaching international trade laws through various countervailing and anti-dumping duties, citing nearly 200 examples spanning several decades.

    In a statement, Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland said, “This WTO action is part of our broader litigation to defend the hundreds of thousands of good, middle class forestry jobs across our country.”

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    Canada cited five reasons for the complaint, saying the U.S. levies penalties beyond what’s allowed by the WTO, improperly calculates rates, unfairly declares penalties retroactive, limits evidence from outside parties, and has a tilted voting system in domestic trade panels that, in the case of a 3-3 tie, awards the win to American companies.

    The complaint marks Canada’s most exhaustive attempt yet to counter recent import duties imposed by the U.S., particularly on Canadian softwood lumber products.

    “It’s (saying), ‘The entire way in which the U.S. — you — are conducting your anti-dumping, countervailing procedures, is wrong,”’ said Chad Bown, a trade expert at Washington’s Peterson Institute. “This is effectively Canada bringing a dispute on behalf of all exporters in the world — the Europeans, Japan, China — because they’re making a systemic challenge.”

    Edward Alden of the Council on Foreign Relations called it a precarious moment for NAFTA and the global trading system, both of which are under threats and criticism from Trump: “Canada has just detonated a bomb under both.”

    Ottawa’s ramped-up efforts come amid an increasingly fragile trade relationship between the two countries. The Canadian government is preparing for the possibility that Trump will withdraw from NAFTA, senior officials say, though they aren’t entirely convinced that he will.

    After reports Wednesday that Canada now considered it inevitable that Trump would try to withdraw the U.S. from the treaty, one Canadian official with knowledge of the NAFTA negotiation offered a more nuanced position in an email to the Post, saying, “it’s not accurate to say we’re convinced,” but that there was “no question we think there’s a chance it could happen.”

    The confusion over Canadian expectations comes ahead of the next round of negotiations, scheduled to be held in Montreal Jan. 23-28.

    Trump withdrawing from NAFTA “was always a risk, but that risk is clearly more elevated now,” said Brian DePratto, senior economist at Toronto-Dominion Bank.
    Trade war is on
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    An idiot grunt like habitants should be enraged.

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    meh. NAFTA negotiating ploy.

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    lol. this headline is actually not even an exaggeration. this is what just happened.


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    lol. somebody ran screaming to correct him.



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    totally informed, competent, stable genius.
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    Trump approves offshore drilling. DRILL BABY DRILL.

    or maybe not.



    “We cannot afford to take a chance with the beauty, the majesty and the economic value and vitality of our wonderful coastline,” South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster (R), who backed President Trump in his state’s competitive 2016 primary, said in a statement.

    “Not Off Our Coast,” North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) wrote in a tweet. “We’ve been clear: this would bring unacceptable risks to our economy, our environment, and our coastal communities.”

    The Florida carve-out, announced Tuesday by Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, created new doubts about the fate of the entire offshore drilling decision — and immediately became another challenge for Republicans as they work to hold off Democrats in the midterm elections. Nine of the 11 states that opposed the drilling order have gubernatorial races this year, and many of the most competitive contests for the House of Representatives will unfold in districts that touch coastline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayward DP View Post
    meh. NAFTA negotiating ploy.
    Yep.

    The Americans are the ones who've been on offense the whole time thus far, so I guess we decided to try and turn the tables on them a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    Trump approves offshore drilling. DRILL BABY DRILL.

    or maybe not.
    Zinke is maybe one of Trump's most evil Cabinet members. Unfortunately given all the other hoopla surrounding this administration he flies under the radar. He's basically on a campaign to undermine any and all environmental protections anywhere in the country.

    Although, IIRC, didn't offshore drilling reach record levels under Obama too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayward DP View Post
    meh. NAFTA negotiating ploy.
    Don't think so. Even Canada knows NAFTA is dead.
    This goes beyond NAFTA
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    An idiot grunt like habitants should be enraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    totally informed, competent, stable genius.
    If it wasn't so ridiculously sad it'd be hilarious. What a ****ing tool.
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    Shithole.

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    So much awesomeness
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    Davos is a cosmopolitan shithole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
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    "I don't think it's a hangout for globalists," Mnuchin says of Davos, the annual Swiss confab of wealthy global elites.
    Amazing.

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    Question is, why would any Norwegian immigrate to... anywhere?

    Does Dorito know why people immigrate?

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