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OT: American Politics

Question is, why would any Norwegian immigrate to... anywhere?

Does Dorito know why people immigrate?

That's the thing, Norway routinely wins best country in the world in rankings. It destroys the U.S. Just look at their crime rate, health care, education and retirement plan.
Oh and their people are white as to why Trump likes them.
 
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OTOH, having an immigration lottery seems outdated to me.

For all its immigration pontifications, Canada is pretty choosy, targeting mostly affluent/educated folks.
 
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Uh, I dunno. Canada is pretty darn open for business for most.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/opinion/canada-immigration-policy-trump.html

Given the xenophobia now sweeping the rest of the West, Canadians’ openness might seem bizarrely magnanimous. In fact, it’s a reasonable attitude rooted in national interest. Canada’s foreign-born population is more educated than that of any other country on earth. Immigrants to Canada work harder, create more businesses and typically use fewer welfare dollars than do their native-born compatriots.

Indeed, their contributions go all the way to the top. Two of the last three governors-general — Canada’s ceremonial heads of state — were born abroad (one in Haiti and one in Hong Kong), and the current cabinet has more Sikhs (four) than the cabinet of India.

But Canada’s hospitable attitude is not innate; it is, rather, the product of very hardheaded government policies. Ever since the mid-1960s, the majority of immigrants to the country (about 65 percent in 2015) have been admitted on purely economic grounds, having been evaluated under a nine-point rubric that ignores their race, religion and ethnicity and instead looks at their age, education, job skills, language ability and other attributes that define their potential contribution to the national work force.

No wonder this approach appeals to President Trump. He’s right to complain that America’s system makes no sense. The majority (about two-thirds in 2015) of immigrants to the United States are admitted under a program known as family reunification — in other words, their fate depends on whether they already have relatives in the country. Family reunification sounds nice on an emotional level (who doesn’t want to unite families?). But it’s a lousy basis for government policy, since it lets dumb luck — that is, whether some relative of yours had the good fortune to get here before you — shape the immigrant population.

The result? Well, contrary to popular myth (and Mr. Trump’s rhetoric), immigrants to the United States also outperform native-born Americans in some ways, including business creation and obedience to the law. But their achievements pale next to those of first-generation Canadians.

For example, about half of all Canadian immigrants arrive with a college degree, while the figure in the United States is just 27 percent. Immigrant children in Canadian schools read at the same level as the native born, while the gap is huge in the United States. Canadian immigrants are almost 20 percent more likely to own their own homes and 7 percent less likely to live in poverty than their American equivalents.

https://www.thespec.com/opinion-sto...check-on-just-how-welcoming-canada-really-is/

A recent cover of the Economist put a maple leaf crown on the Statue of Liberty and proclaimed Canada "an example to the world." Famously, on election day, the Canadian immigration website crashed because of the number of Americans reportedly considering a move to their northern neighbour as Donald Trump won the presidency. Year after year, polls show that Canadians are, by far, more open and more optimistic about immigration than the citizens in any other Western country.

But such optimism is perhaps easier to achieve in Canada than in other nations: For historical and geopolitical reasons, Canada does not have to cope with the same immigration challenges as the United States and Europe.


To start, Canada has pursued a much more selective immigration policy than the United States or any western European country. It accepts far more immigrants legally than most Western nations, but under a policy designed primarily to dovetail with the economic interests of the nation.
 
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Trump just can't get out of his own way. Things aren't so bad economically but can he just shut the **** up and let things roll? Nope. Always has to be the center of negative attention.

Anyone notice how he often crosses his arms in those meetings? He does it tightly, much like Nixon used to do.
 
Trump just can't get out of his own way. Things aren't so bad economically but can he just shut the **** up and let things roll? Nope. Always has to be the center of negative attention.

it's who he is. a loud mouthed ignoramus. that's it, that's all.

Anyone notice how he often crosses his arms in those meetings? He does it tightly, much like Nixon used to do.

yep, a glaring tell.
 
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...-to-be-laid-off-feel-betrayed-by-donald-trump

“We took him serious,” Elliott said, tearing up as she sat in a booth at Sully’s, “because he did seem to be an entrepreneur. He knew this offshoring shit was gonna go down, and ‘I’m not gonna stand for it’ is the way he made it sound. Hillary never said a word to us or about us. Obama never flew Air Force One to our facility, like he did to one in Elkhart, Indiana, when he was campaigning. I thought, This man is not gonna be anybody’s puppet.” Elliott went on, “It was an easy vote for me. Not just because of ‘The Apprentice.’ We believed in him here at Carrier. The vast majority of us. It was Trump deluxe in there. I told people, ‘He’s gonna find a cause somewhere. He’s gonna be a savior.’ Little did I know the cause was gonna be us.”

Hundreds of Carrier jobs will remain in Indianapolis, but Elliott and others argue that those jobs—many of them office-based, not on the manufacturing line—were never in jeopardy. “Trump saved some jobs,” Elliott insisted. “He didn’t save mine, but he did save some.” She sighed. “Just don’t bullshit us. We never thought the office personnel was going anywhere, anyway. They’re not making units. We are. We’re the ones that made the $9.7 billion that they collected.” She went on, “We can understand companies having to go overseas if they’re losing money. We get it. But Carrier is the top A.C.- and furnace-making company in the nation, getting money hand over fist.”
 
Con man is gonna con...

If only we had decades of public record that could have possibly warned us about him.

Hope is a powerful thing.

Thankfully the economy is firing on all cylinders at the moment, hopefully these people can find other employment.
 
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Hope is a powerful thing.

Ignorance is far more powerful. Again, there was absolutely nothing redeemable about him as a candidate or even as a human being prior to him getting involved. That people wanted to port their hopes over on to him only shows their extreme level of ignorance regarding how conditions on the ground actually change, and the man himself.

Thankfully the economy is firing on all cylinders at the moment, hopefully these people can find other employment.

Job growth has been tepid, and the locations driving what growth there is are not industrial jobs in the American heart land. They're largely tech positions in the liberal wastelands of the coasts.
 
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