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OT: American Politics

Luckily, the rest of the modern world as usual, understands the issue.

This will effect the entire internet as US telecoms picking winners and losers will absolutely influence what the rest of us have access to, but the for the rest of us this won't have a huge effect.
 
so does this mean uporn and pornhub will now be a pay service?

The likely end point for this, is that you'll have to subscribe to an "adult" add on package or some such shit. Basically the telecoms want to do to the internet what they've done to television.

Want sports? Cool, you'll have to take the "basic" package for 29.99 a month. Youtube, netflix, etc will all be part of the "streaming services" add on, etc.

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Everything in the package will be unlimited bandwidth (and at good speeds). Everything outside of your package will be data capped like a mother****er and throttled.

The internet was destroying the old business model so instead of adapting, they just ruined the internet.
 
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-objects-to-defense-laws-anti-russia-provisions


President Donald Trump Tuesday night signaled his reluctance to enforce congressionally-passed restrictions on Russia.

In signing the massive annual military spending bill, known formally as the National Defense Authorization Act, Trump objected to several measures Congress passed to toughen U.S. policy toward Russia, which U.S. intelligence has assessed interfered in the 2016 election to benefit him.

Several provisions of the bill, Trump wrote in his signing statement — effectively a presidential caveat to new laws – could “potentially dictate the position of the United States in external military and foreign affairs and, in certain instances, direct the conduct of international diplomacy.”

It’s the latest installment in a pattern in which Trump carves out an exception to his typical bellicosity for Russia, even as he describes a federal investigation aimed at uncovering his campaign’s ties to the Kremlin as a politicized fraud.

Among those provisions Trump cited as potentially violative of his authority is section 1239, which directs Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and the military to “develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to counter threats by the Russian Federation.”

Subsection A of the requirement, to which Trump also specifically objected, directs the strategy to attribute and defend against “hybrid warfare operations short of traditional armed conflict against the United States and its allies and partners.” In particular, such a strategy should “identify and defend against” Russia’s “use of misinformation, disinformation and propaganda in social and traditional media” – something The Daily Beast, as well as the congressional Russia inquiries, have extensively documented.

The strategy Congress directed also seeks action against “corrupt or illicit financing of political parties, think tanks, media organizations and academic institutions” and “the use of coercive economic tools, including sanctions, market access, cryptocurrencies, and differential pricing, especially in the energy section.” It explicitly seeks unnamed measures to bolster early detection of “hybrid warfare operations by the Russian federation” and to support actions “to support NATO allies and non-NATO partners” – like those in Eastern Europe concerned about Russian irredentism, as seen in Ukraine – “in maintaining their sovereignty and territorial integrity.”
 
Fwiw, the net neutrality fight isn't over. We've just moved from the corrupt regulators round to the swimsuit...err, lawsuit round. New York, Washington, AG has already filed. Industry groups repping the big tech firms (Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Netflix etc) are expected to file shortly as well.

Part of the fight is that the FCC is trying to include a preemptive cock block to states who would just regulate net neutrality within their state. The FCC is trying to outlaw that as part of their ruling. Keep in mind, this is 3...3 ****ing people who are bought and paid for by the telecoms who are able to do this.

The lawsuits are going to be interesting partially due to the millions of fake comments supporting the end of net neutrality during the public consultation phase. They've already found about 500K of the comments as having originated from Russian email addresses, for example. The FCC is required by law to "consider" public opinion in their decisions.

I'm not one of those law talking guys, but if I had to handicap it from the cheap seats I'd say that the FCC ruling stands, but that their attempt to knee cap state level efforts to regulate within their borders will get punted on the grounds of it being an overreach according to the 10th amendment.

So just like with the rest of the Trumpian horseshit (climate change specifically), the states who understand what type of a gross cluster**** this is, will just regulate net neutrality on the state level. The shit hole red states will get internet for dummies (in exchange for sweet, sweet campaign contributions for state level races)and the more progressive states will keep the open internet. The Alabama's will become more Alabama-ie, and the rest of the country will continue marching on into the future with the rest of us.
 
Its actually an interesting legal question whether the internet is interstate commerce. In theory it crosses state lines, so should it be the state right to legislate. For example, what if this was Kentucky trying to remove net neutrality in state, rather than the feds.

The Senate can also overrule this by a simple majority.
 
I have a question for those of you who understand these things much better than I.
What if no one voted. I mean no one came out to vote these idiots in.
A peaceful protest in which everyone decided we have had enough of the lawyers and politicians who are mostly driven by their own economic needs and desires.
I know This may seem like a stupid action but maybe this type of reaction from the masses would help to show that we have had enough of their dabbling in our business.
Put on commercials that advocate people to stop buying from certain business like Wal-Mart or to get people to boycot Tim hortons until they start paying proper wages.
Because if you can't afford to pay a person a proper wage for working for you when you make billions then you should be shamed and boycotted. Jmho
Remember the black vote for Obama that got him elected. If we all joined together to do this it could help change things . just a simple suggestion as it may be. Lol
 
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In the end it's a simple, but kind of crazy question to ask. We'd find out if the people really held the power, or if the owners do.

Like in most peaceful revolutions, I'd imagine that the winner would be whichever side the military fell on.
 
I don't like the idea of paying disproportionately more...which is something people can debate;

Me? I don't think your tax rate should go up, but if you make a lot, by percentage you should be paying more anyways...as obviously 10% of a million is a helluva lot than 10% of a grand.
 
the biggest problem isn't the people - it's money. political preservation depends on money. money comes with a price because the people/corporations who shell it out expect things in return.

billions are spent each election cycle for ideologues to inundate the masses in an effort to convince them that the other team is filled with evil rot.

getting the money out of politics would fix most of what's wrong with the american system, imo.
 
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