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    senate judiciary dumped all kinds of documents today.

    interview with Donnie Jr:




    heh @ "lemme scratch that last statement"
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    Senate Judiciary Democrats release preliminary findings:


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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    Well, what benefit does China get from NK giving up its nukes?


    And note that China just shut down trade talks with the US and sent the americans home with nothing.
    I'm unsure of the China play but I don't think it should be analyzed only through the perspective of nukes.

    China likes having the NK buffer between them and the South. But it could be getting to a point where supporting NK is enough of an economic drain on the Chinese that they want it to stand on its own two feet a bit more. this is all just me speculating, not based on any authority.

    I kinda see the nukes as the biggest and best bargaining chip. I doubt China actually cares much about NK having nukes so long as there is no threat to the regime. If KJU is able to ensure the survival of the family dynasty and sacrifices nukes to do so I could see China being on board with that. But I'm doubting more and more we even reach that point.

    Hell, this could all be an elaborate set up by KJU and Xi to embarrass Trump and the US and make it look like their demands are ridiculous and extreme.

    Fortunately I'm sure there will be several more plot twists before this all plays out.

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    However this all plays out, this is one thing I am pretty confident in predicting:

    KJU/North Korea will not give up their nuclear weapons/ballistic missiles.

    Being in possession of nuclear weapons is pretty much the only way an oppressive regime/international pariah can be sure that they're safe from outside threats. Give them up, and whatever assurances you're given that you won't be invaded or eventually end up as a victim of "regime change" aren't worth the paper they're written on.
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    lmao. their spin is getting even dumber, and dumber.

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    'mooch had just enough time at the white house to squeeze in an offer to help all the witnesses get their stories straight and consistent:

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    Mooch is going to be an awesome cameo in the HBO/Netflix version of this.
    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than is required to produce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindzEye View Post
    Mooch is going to be an awesome cameo in the HBO/Netflix version of this.
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    News: the Senate Intelligence Committee says Russia's interference campaign attempted to help Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

    This affirms what intel agencies have said and contradicts the assessment of House Republicans.
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    the Republicans should be ashamed of how they blindly jumped onto the Team Trump bandwagon. spineless, the lot of them. not all mind you, but enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post


    So...right wing political activist makes a stupid statement on twitter?

    Is that what we are suppose to see here? Just trying to make sure this is as unimportant as I think it is.
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    Yes, it is just another example of mainstream right wingers fake accusations of media bias.
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    Trump's disclosure form acknowledges: "In 2016 expenses were incurred by one of Donald J. Trump's attorneys, Michael Cohen. Mr. Cohen sought reimbursement of those expenses and Mr. Trump fully reimbursed Mr. Cohen in 2017."

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    So 1) Trump denies involvement in Cohen payment to Daniels 2) Giuliani admits Trump reimbursed Cohen 3) Trump says Giuliani just started, doesn’t know what he’s talking about, will “get his facts straight” 4) Trump files official form acknowledging he reimbursed Cohen
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    Yes, it is just another example of mainstream right wingers fake accusations of media bias.
    Mainstream?

    Had to google this guy to figure out who the hell you were talking about.

    Meh.

    Kind of rich regardless, coming from the guy who said Fox news didn't have the Flynn plea deal on their website while everyone who went to check saw it front and center on their website.

    Regardless, carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altair View Post
    Mainstream?

    Had to google this guy to figure out who the hell you were talking about.
    I mean...yes, I know you have to google things to figure out what I am talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeke View Post
    I mean...yes, I know you have to google things to figure out what I am talking about.
    Well, when you're mentioning some obscure guy on twitter...
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    That said, this really isn't all that important. I'm sure you have more important things to go on about.
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    he's not obscure. he was part of the reagan administration, an editor and writer for the heritage foundation, and one of the most prolific writers and moviemakers of the modern right wing and christian movements. His fauxumentary films Obama's America and Hillary's America have played a prominent part in the last 2 elections.
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    NEW: Ethics office sending letter to Rod Rosenstein stating that Michael Cohen's payment on behalf of Trump was a debt and may be relevant to "any inquiry" Rosenstein may be pursuing.

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    Let’s be clear what this is: the Trump-appointed acting head of the Office of Government Ethics just wrote DOJ to flag that Trump may have committed a crime by not disclosing his Stormy payment to Cohen in last year’s financial disclosure.
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