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OT: American Politics

leafman101 said:
From McCain:



The whole issue is a stupid, waste of time. Its 2017. I can only imagine how much taxpayer money they are wasting on conducting that study to determine if they should strip rights away from Americans due to immutable characteristics.

But man Trump is so dumb. He literally doesn't understand anything.
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It's not trump in this case.

It's the Army. The American military is a really conservative old school organization, and they didn't want gays in the military and they don't want transgenders.

They lost the gays serving openly fight, but they still feel they can fight the transgender one. Enough generals whispering about the "problems" this would represent would lead trump to making this decision.
 
leafman101 said:
From McCain:



The whole issue is a stupid, waste of time. Its 2017. I can only imagine how much taxpayer money they are wasting on conducting that study to determine if they should strip rights away from Americans due to immutable characteristics.

But man Trump is so dumb. He literally doesn't understand anything.
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It's not trump in this case.

It's the Army. The American military is a really conservative old school organization, and they didn't want gays in the military and they don't want transgenders.

They lost the gays serving openly fight, but they still feel they can fight the transgender one. Enough generals whispering about the "problems" this would represent would lead trump to making this decision.
 
JohnnyHolmes said:
Or it's the DNC's fault for knee-capping Bernie and forcing Crooked Hillary down the American people's throats.
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This has been explained to you before.

But not one of the emails where the DNC was supposedly "knee capping" Bernie comes from before the date that he was mathematically eliminated, and unable to get the number of delegates necessary to win the nomination. What the DNC was complaining about was that he wouldn't concede the race even though it was over.
 
Altair said:
Canada, France, Germany, United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, all allow Transgender people to serve and from a personal perspective, it causes little to no issues.

I guess during your military service you experienced otherwise?
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In the united states, Transgender service rate is nearly double the service rate for the rest of the population.
 
JohnnyHolmes said:
Enabling mentally ill people to self-harm is a concern for some I guess.
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Thats great. Don't let mental ill people serve in the military I agree.

Checks DSM-5

The actual college of psychiatrists doesn't describe being transgendered as a mental illness that needs this level of intervention, that their rights should be stripped, or that they can't function in society. (not on its own anyway).

Seems they check out for military service according to the experts in the mental health field.


but sure, lets let the laypeople decide who is mentally ill, and not the experts trained for this sort of thing.
 
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Sarah huckabee is now going to begin each briefing by reading letters written by "fans". Today she read a letter from 9 year old Dylan. Who everyone calls pickles and wanted to tell supreme leader how great he is and that he even had a trump party.
You know this is from trump directly. Wowsers.

I also love the fact that he's donating this year's salary to education, but the next budget cuts 92 billion from education.
Bizzaro is right


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CaptainBolduke said:
Trump doesn't care about the result or impact. He cares about the message.
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Yep, and he's only trying to reach the:

- 49% of Trump voters who believe that he won the popular vote
- 33% who believe Iraq was directly involved in 9/11
- 33% of Louisiana residents who blame Obama for the Katrina response
- 10% who when recently asked who was leading the DOJ investigation into Russia, answered "Sean Spicer"
- 46% of Trump voters who believe that Hillary Clinton is trafficking children out of the basement of a DC pizzaria...that doesn't have a basement.
- 52% of Trump voters who believe that Obama was born in Kenya
- 37% of Trump voters who believe that the amount of Americans with health insurance decreased under the ACA
- 30% of Americans who think that climate change is caused by "natural changes in the environment"
- 35% of Americans who consider sexual orientation a "choice"
- 32% of Americans consider the bible to be the literal word of god
- 18% of Americans believe the earth is the centre of the universe
- 25% of Americans believe that the Sun revolves around the earth
- 25% of Americans don't believe in Darwin's theory of evolution
- 29% of Americans who believe that full blown military conflict against the US government isn't just imminent, but is "imperative"
- 33% of Americans believe in ghosts and 18% have claimed to have seen one
- 71% of Americans believe that Iran has nuclear weapons
- 25% of Americans suspect that Barack Obama is literally the anti christ
- 26% of Americans believe in witchcraft

So while it's not all the same Americans in each of those categories, if you were to create a venn diagram with every one of those included, there would be a shit ton of overlap. We're talking about incredibly low information voters. That's Donald's base.
 
BKerr said:
but sure, lets let the laypeople decide who is mentally ill, and not the experts trained for this sort of thing.
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Kind of sums up that entire side of the argument on a broad array of topics in 2017. The ideological war on expertise is real.
 
BKerr said:
This has been explained to you before.

But not one of the emails where the DNC was supposedly "knee capping" Bernie comes from before the date that he was mathematically eliminated, and unable to get the number of delegates necessary to win the nomination. What the DNC was complaining about was that he wouldn't concede the race even though it was over.
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So 5 of the DNC head honchos resigned over nothing?

OK.
 
Read this, don't know if true however some stats state that the military spends 5 times more on Viagra than on transgender expenses


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JohnnyHolmes said:
So 5 of the DNC head honchos resigned over nothing?

OK.
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Embarrassment.

Fell on their own swords to avoid lasting damage in the midst of an election campaign.

They could have argued they did nothing wrong, and then the trump campaign would attack them again, and then they'd argue, and it would have stayed in the election cycle. Better to rip off the bandage than continue a pointless fight that people can't understand the facts on. (As has been shown, you can't understand the facts on it either).
 
Do you know what I detest more than progressive narrative bullshit? Cowardly pieces of shit. I hope Sessions finds something to leak that ****s Trump right down main street.
 
Oh and McCain should be president right now. That guy has more balls than Trump can ever hope to have.
 
So we'd have had the 25th ammendment and an acting president while McCain was incapacitated last week. President Sarah Palin?
 
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