GrandWazoo
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
I wouldn't mind getting another first round pick.
I wouldn't mind getting another first round pick.
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Sal_Butera
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
Ture, but I'd much prefer MB packaging his 1st rounder with other components for a young talent, like say Draisaitl.
Ture, but I'd much prefer MB packaging his 1st rounder with other components for a young talent, like say Draisaitl.
GrandWazoo
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
Well sure, and I'd prefer packaging our first this year and our first next year and other components to get the first overall pick this year.
Well sure, and I'd prefer packaging our first this year and our first next year and other components to get the first overall pick this year.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
I don't have that avatar because I care about the Leafs. I have it because I like to rub Leafs fan's nose in shit.
It's part of my charm.
The Leafs are what they are. But it's the fans who choose to root for them who need their heads read.
I don't have that avatar because I care about the Leafs. I have it because I like to rub Leafs fan's nose in shit.
It's part of my charm.
The Leafs are what they are. But it's the fans who choose to root for them who need their heads read.
Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
How dumb is the guy that he can't figure out that you are mocking them?
How dumb is the guy that he can't figure out that you are mocking them?
XPOFAN
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lecoqsportif
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
Russia is corrupt and backwards country run by gangsters, including its sports. They have to resort to this kind absurd coercion once the fissures become obvious. The Habs should atrange to get Scherbak Canadian citizenship.
Russia is corrupt and backwards country run by gangsters, including its sports. They have to resort to this kind absurd coercion once the fissures become obvious. The Habs should atrange to get Scherbak Canadian citizenship.
LeafGm
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
The KHL's been a pretty important vanity project for Putin---his oligarch buddies have spent a lot of money paying unsustainable salaries to players, in an attempt to make the KHL competitive for guys that, under normal circumstances, would be playing in the NHL. He's probably not particularly interested in just sitting back and watching the house of cards collapse. But the flow of top KHL players leaving certainly isn't going to slow down on its' own.
You have to wonder how much of this viewpoint is Slava Fetisov's, and how much of it is actually....
The KHL's been a pretty important vanity project for Putin---his oligarch buddies have spent a lot of money paying unsustainable salaries to players, in an attempt to make the KHL competitive for guys that, under normal circumstances, would be playing in the NHL. He's probably not particularly interested in just sitting back and watching the house of cards collapse. But the flow of top KHL players leaving certainly isn't going to slow down on its' own.
I'm familiar with your schtick, Pat. I just find the cognitive dissonance of it amusing. You don't care about the Leafs, but yet at the same time care enough about them (or their fans, apparently) that you've sported a Leaf-themed avatar on a Habs board for years.
CH1
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
I agree. In sports, apathy is stronger than hate.
I agree. In sports, apathy is stronger than hate.
BKerr
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
The cap was never about evening everything out.... thats the lie the NHL told us.... the real truth is the cap is about Cost Control and depressing salaries.
The cap was never about evening everything out.... thats the lie the NHL told us.... the real truth is the cap is about Cost Control and depressing salaries.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
I chose the avatar as a provocation back in the days when I used to post on the Leafs board. I never bothered changing it (in part because it's been so long that I forget how to do that, lol) Of course, unless or until the Leafs win a Cup there's no need to change it, is there? It's as relevant in 2015 as it was in 1968 and its impact increases with each passing season.
When I said that I couldn't care less about the Leafs I was talking about right now. Back when they were relevant and in danger of winning I worried about it and would watch their playoff games rooting for them to be eliminated. My hatred of the Ottawa Senators is more about how they continually failed to eliminate the Leafs than about anything they've done to the Habs. But since the 2005 lockout I've barely given the Leafs a second thought. I knew that once a salary cap was brought in the Leafs would have to get by on their wits instead of just throwing money around. And since I've always maintained that the Leafs are run by half-wits I knew they couldn't go very far. And history has proven that I was right. One measly playoff appearance since the introduction of the cap (and that was in a lock-out shortened season. to boot)
So right now, at least, I don't really think too much about the Leafs and the signing of Babcock isn't moving me in the direction of caring. Today he's the messiah, just like Brian Burke and Pat Quinn were before him. The media can fawn over him as much as they want to (as they also did with Burke, Quinn and whoever else gets a job with the Leafs) None of that has translated into Cups and unless or until it does I'm not even thinking about them, let alone caring about what they do.
You have to wonder how much of this viewpoint is Slava Fetisov's, and how much of it is actually....
The KHL's been a pretty important vanity project for Putin---his oligarch buddies have spent a lot of money paying unsustainable salaries to players, in an attempt to make the KHL competitive for guys that, under normal circumstances, would be playing in the NHL. He's probably not particularly interested in just sitting back and watching the house of cards collapse. But the flow of top KHL players leaving certainly isn't going to slow down on its' own.
I'm familiar with your schtick, Pat. I just find the cognitive dissonance of it amusing. You don't care about the Leafs, but yet at the same time care enough about them (or their fans, apparently) that you've sported a Leaf-themed avatar on a Habs board for years.
I chose the avatar as a provocation back in the days when I used to post on the Leafs board. I never bothered changing it (in part because it's been so long that I forget how to do that, lol) Of course, unless or until the Leafs win a Cup there's no need to change it, is there? It's as relevant in 2015 as it was in 1968 and its impact increases with each passing season.
When I said that I couldn't care less about the Leafs I was talking about right now. Back when they were relevant and in danger of winning I worried about it and would watch their playoff games rooting for them to be eliminated. My hatred of the Ottawa Senators is more about how they continually failed to eliminate the Leafs than about anything they've done to the Habs. But since the 2005 lockout I've barely given the Leafs a second thought. I knew that once a salary cap was brought in the Leafs would have to get by on their wits instead of just throwing money around. And since I've always maintained that the Leafs are run by half-wits I knew they couldn't go very far. And history has proven that I was right. One measly playoff appearance since the introduction of the cap (and that was in a lock-out shortened season. to boot)
So right now, at least, I don't really think too much about the Leafs and the signing of Babcock isn't moving me in the direction of caring. Today he's the messiah, just like Brian Burke and Pat Quinn were before him. The media can fawn over him as much as they want to (as they also did with Burke, Quinn and whoever else gets a job with the Leafs) None of that has translated into Cups and unless or until it does I'm not even thinking about them, let alone caring about what they do.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
Dave Hodge sums it up pretty succinctly:
"The hiring of Mike Babcock is further proof of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment's need and ability to land the biggest name available.
You can't imagine long meetings to evaluate lesser-known candidates when there's one well-known superstar on the horizon. That's the one MLSE must have and knows it can get. So Brian Burke, Randy Carlyle, Brendan Shanahan, Masai Ujiri, Tim Leiweke, and various soccer managers and players too numerous to list, preceded Babcock to Toronto as if by decree. Money talks, power acts, Toronto beckons, and it's all so predictable.
There's nothing wrong with that, but before it warrants a "thumbs up", the teams owned by MLSE have to win. Obviously, the best of the best can be hired without a lot of opposition from rival organizations, but games have to be won differently. Babcock will not only be trying to win Toronto's first Stanley Cup since 1967, he will attempt to prove that MLSE's might and clout and sprawling reach can be helpful in the pursuit of victory. As yet, there is no proof of that.
Instead, it can be suggested that MLSE's teams suffer from the over-confidence that oozes from a corporation that gets its way in every other way."
Dave Hodge sums it up pretty succinctly:
"The hiring of Mike Babcock is further proof of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment's need and ability to land the biggest name available.
You can't imagine long meetings to evaluate lesser-known candidates when there's one well-known superstar on the horizon. That's the one MLSE must have and knows it can get. So Brian Burke, Randy Carlyle, Brendan Shanahan, Masai Ujiri, Tim Leiweke, and various soccer managers and players too numerous to list, preceded Babcock to Toronto as if by decree. Money talks, power acts, Toronto beckons, and it's all so predictable.
There's nothing wrong with that, but before it warrants a "thumbs up", the teams owned by MLSE have to win. Obviously, the best of the best can be hired without a lot of opposition from rival organizations, but games have to be won differently. Babcock will not only be trying to win Toronto's first Stanley Cup since 1967, he will attempt to prove that MLSE's might and clout and sprawling reach can be helpful in the pursuit of victory. As yet, there is no proof of that.
Instead, it can be suggested that MLSE's teams suffer from the over-confidence that oozes from a corporation that gets its way in every other way."
hockeylover
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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
You still don't get it.
I don't care about the Leafs per se. What I do care about is making sure their fans are constantly reminded of the fact that their favourite team takes them for fools and will never give them what they really want.
You have to remember that Leafs fan is everywhere. I need to have something at my fingertips to use against them whenever they pop up. It's like keeping a fly swatter within easy reach. The Leafs hire a coach and Leafs fan crawls out of the woodwork like a horde of cockroaches, aided and abeted by the media. I think the CBC now stands for "Constant Babcock Coverage". The only way to stop the insanity is to keep pounding away at them with the Leafs' lousy track record.
It isn't that I care about the team; it's that I am continually confronted with Leafs fans and their delusions. I can't just ignore them because willful ignorance of that magnitude offends me. I have to at least try to set them straight and if I can cause even one Leafs fan to reconsider their loyalty then it's all been worth it.
Friends don't let friends become Leafs fans.
Incidentally I do the same thing with Canucks fans but only because I have to live among them. If I go out of town a Canucks fan sighting is as rare as a unicorn so I don't have to worry about it. But no matter where I go there's sure to be a Leafs fan trying to spoil it for me like so many ants at a picnic.
You still don't get it.
I don't care about the Leafs per se. What I do care about is making sure their fans are constantly reminded of the fact that their favourite team takes them for fools and will never give them what they really want.
You have to remember that Leafs fan is everywhere. I need to have something at my fingertips to use against them whenever they pop up. It's like keeping a fly swatter within easy reach. The Leafs hire a coach and Leafs fan crawls out of the woodwork like a horde of cockroaches, aided and abeted by the media. I think the CBC now stands for "Constant Babcock Coverage". The only way to stop the insanity is to keep pounding away at them with the Leafs' lousy track record.
It isn't that I care about the team; it's that I am continually confronted with Leafs fans and their delusions. I can't just ignore them because willful ignorance of that magnitude offends me. I have to at least try to set them straight and if I can cause even one Leafs fan to reconsider their loyalty then it's all been worth it.
Friends don't let friends become Leafs fans.
Incidentally I do the same thing with Canucks fans but only because I have to live among them. If I go out of town a Canucks fan sighting is as rare as a unicorn so I don't have to worry about it. But no matter where I go there's sure to be a Leafs fan trying to spoil it for me like so many ants at a picnic.
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XPOFAN
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
So just like Habs fans a per you
So just like Habs fans a per you
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Re: Around The League: 2014 - 2015 Season
I'm equally annoyed with Habs fans who are willfully blind. If your fan base keeps telling you that you're great no matter what you do then you have no incentive to do anything. If however your fan base keeps telling you that you're not good enough and that the price of their loyalty is winning championships, you're going to try to win championships because the alternative is going out of business.
Leafs fans sent the Leafs the "we're just happy to be here" message decades ago, which is why they never even try to win anymore. All they do is look for new ways to exploit the fanbase for money. The Habs, for the time being at least, still need to win in order to guarantee financial success. But having fans who don't demand winning as the price of loyalty do everyone a disservice. It's the thin edge of the wedge. The only time I ever want to see the Habs' organization comfortable is when they're parading down Ste Catherine Street with the Cup.
I'm equally annoyed with Habs fans who are willfully blind. If your fan base keeps telling you that you're great no matter what you do then you have no incentive to do anything. If however your fan base keeps telling you that you're not good enough and that the price of their loyalty is winning championships, you're going to try to win championships because the alternative is going out of business.
Leafs fans sent the Leafs the "we're just happy to be here" message decades ago, which is why they never even try to win anymore. All they do is look for new ways to exploit the fanbase for money. The Habs, for the time being at least, still need to win in order to guarantee financial success. But having fans who don't demand winning as the price of loyalty do everyone a disservice. It's the thin edge of the wedge. The only time I ever want to see the Habs' organization comfortable is when they're parading down Ste Catherine Street with the Cup.