Around The League: 2016-17 Playoffs
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Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
Been saying it for years , you need an elite core then tinker around the edges. Their constant group of 4-5 players doesn't change , you constantly change the support pieces.
But you have to give them credit for finding players , making decent trades to keep the team winning , they have traded probably an entire capable playoff team during 3 cup runs .
But at some point when your core like ours isn't working you need to take the knives out and start ripping it up .
Been saying it for years , you need an elite core then tinker around the edges. Their constant group of 4-5 players doesn't change , you constantly change the support pieces.
But you have to give them credit for finding players , making decent trades to keep the team winning , they have traded probably an entire capable playoff team during 3 cup runs .
But at some point when your core like ours isn't working you need to take the knives out and start ripping it up .
Sal_Butera
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Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
Now Anaheims f*cked, they wont be able to unload Getzlaf. A GMs job ina cap world is a 10-yr profitable outlook, not 2-4 -
Now Anaheims f*cked, they wont be able to unload Getzlaf. A GMs job ina cap world is a 10-yr profitable outlook, not 2-4 -
hairnova
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Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
Alex Radulov has signed a two-year deal to stay in Russia.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...deal--ending-nhl-drama--report-145229859.html
Alex Radulov has signed a two-year deal to stay in Russia.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...deal--ending-nhl-drama--report-145229859.html
BKerr
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Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
Ovechkin out of the All-Star Game
Lucic punches a linesman.... he tried to sucker punch a preds player in a scrum, missed and hit the linesman square in the jaw.
Dennis Wideman cross checks a linesman into the boards... looked pretty bad.
Bad night for NHL officials.
Ovechkin out of the All-Star Game
Lucic punches a linesman.... he tried to sucker punch a preds player in a scrum, missed and hit the linesman square in the jaw.
Dennis Wideman cross checks a linesman into the boards... looked pretty bad.
Bad night for NHL officials.
Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
And that's the issue , plus PK isn't making 9 it's 10-11 at 28 years of age as a UFA at the same time 31 is about to get the same.
Then you have 67 to deal with , there is no way this bridge hurt us , there was no cup in our sight even if 76 was making 1 mil.
And that's the issue , plus PK isn't making 9 it's 10-11 at 28 years of age as a UFA at the same time 31 is about to get the same.
Then you have 67 to deal with , there is no way this bridge hurt us , there was no cup in our sight even if 76 was making 1 mil.
Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
Add that to Kesbitch and you have a trifecta of brutal deals coming their way which will completely hand cuff them .
That's why the owners need to demand 4-5 year Max terms in the next CBA .
Add that to Kesbitch and you have a trifecta of brutal deals coming their way which will completely hand cuff them .
That's why the owners need to demand 4-5 year Max terms in the next CBA .
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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These owners and GMs aren't dumb. They know the risks involved when you sign a guy for a term that long. They know but they don't care. They have an immediate need to address and to hell with the future because it'll be someone else's problem by then.
Why do the owners always need to rework the CBA every time they do something stupid? The last lockout was imposed so that, once again, the owners could save themselves from their own stupidity. The owners need to stop "demanding" concession after concession from the players and instead practice some self restraint of their own. You want to hand out 9 year contracts like candy? Go ahead. Just be prepared to live with the consequences. Teams don't need to rewrite the CBA to fix their cap issues. They simply need to manage their cap situations better.
These owners and GMs aren't dumb. They know the risks involved when you sign a guy for a term that long. They know but they don't care. They have an immediate need to address and to hell with the future because it'll be someone else's problem by then.
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It's beyond self control We Have , with a hard carp even a good long term contract can blow up in your face in a few years .
MLB has no cap and teams can control rising salaries on young players who are under league salary controls with the exception of elite dudes like Trout . You can Fk up all you want and spend all you want like the Dogers , it has no bearing on what lesser teams want to spend , each team has their own budget .
NFL has no guarantees except signing bonuses and solid revenue sharing , everyone can compete with drafts that produce immediate starters .
The clowns who run NBA franchises cleaned up their act years ago with 4-5 years term and early opt outs . With ELC's at 4-5 years they go hand in hand with standard player contracts. You can afford 2 max guys knowing your rookies are on the cheap for the same term ,much easier to structure a team and players expire at the same time . Gone are the days of rookies making more than starters without playing a game. The owners got what they wanted in last few CBA's.
In the fked up NHL you have 8 year deals and longer previous ones , and ELC 's at 3 years then you have this fooked up floor where some teams don't even generate the floor in revenue .
On top of that every clown has a NT/ NM clause , so even if I want to trade you the players hold all the cards , you are totally handcuffed.
You could be the smartest GM in the game but this system will Fk you at some point, there needs to be more control on the team , and that comes with shorter terms and the elimination of the NT clauses in the next CBA , would solve many problems.
It's beyond self control We Have , with a hard carp even a good long term contract can blow up in your face in a few years .
MLB has no cap and teams can control rising salaries on young players who are under league salary controls with the exception of elite dudes like Trout . You can Fk up all you want and spend all you want like the Dogers , it has no bearing on what lesser teams want to spend , each team has their own budget .
NFL has no guarantees except signing bonuses and solid revenue sharing , everyone can compete with drafts that produce immediate starters .
The clowns who run NBA franchises cleaned up their act years ago with 4-5 years term and early opt outs . With ELC's at 4-5 years they go hand in hand with standard player contracts. You can afford 2 max guys knowing your rookies are on the cheap for the same term ,much easier to structure a team and players expire at the same time . Gone are the days of rookies making more than starters without playing a game. The owners got what they wanted in last few CBA's.
In the fked up NHL you have 8 year deals and longer previous ones , and ELC 's at 3 years then you have this fooked up floor where some teams don't even generate the floor in revenue .
On top of that every clown has a NT/ NM clause , so even if I want to trade you the players hold all the cards , you are totally handcuffed.
You could be the smartest GM in the game but this system will Fk you at some point, there needs to be more control on the team , and that comes with shorter terms and the elimination of the NT clauses in the next CBA , would solve many problems.
Altair
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Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
How many players have them? Feels like 20 percent or so, and they and handcuffing GMs
Leave the 8 year deals, get rid of no movement clauses, grandfathered in of course.
How many players have them? Feels like 20 percent or so, and they and handcuffing GMs
BKerr
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It doesn't matter if its 10-11..... all that matters is $9. his cap hit.
We are a top 3 revenue club in the NHL... the differences between actual salary and cap hit are irrelevant (especially when if you look at the roster we have a number of players whose actual salary is less than cap hit, it all works out).
It doesn't matter if its 10-11..... all that matters is $9. his cap hit.
We are a top 3 revenue club in the NHL... the differences between actual salary and cap hit are irrelevant (especially when if you look at the roster we have a number of players whose actual salary is less than cap hit, it all works out).
BKerr
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If an owner can't restrain himself, its his own damn problem. No one put a gun to anyone's head and said you have to sign 8 year deals.
If an owner can't restrain himself, its his own damn problem. No one put a gun to anyone's head and said you have to sign 8 year deals.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
None of the things you just mentioned are obligatory. Teams are not bound by the CBA to hand out 9 year deals or NTC's. They CHOOSE to offer them. They can just as easily choose not to but they are their own worst enemies. What bugs me is that the only solution they ever come up with to deal with their own stupidity is to lock the players out. How about trying not to act like idiots instead?
GrandWazoo
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Re: Around The League: 2015 - 2016 Season
The Islanders should indeed be worried about Tavares. The Kings were safe with Kopitar.
The Islanders should indeed be worried about Tavares. The Kings were safe with Kopitar.
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It can't be all in the owner's favour. In return for limiting how much a player can earn and how long he can sign for, they get NMC and NTCs.
It can't be all in the owner's favour. In return for limiting how much a player can earn and how long he can sign for, they get NMC and NTCs.