JackBurton
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btw, JB, we miss you over at Canadiens' board where you were a regular contributor during the 10-1-1 stretch
I will contribute again during this exciting new streak.
The REAL Standings, 2014-15
- Thread starter zeke
- Start date
I will contribute again during this exciting new streak.
hockeylover
Well-known member
Oh wow, pot kettle much?
Habsy
Yes, I'm kidding people.
31 point projected lead, nice.
zeke
Well-known member
EAST
1) NYI 113
2) MTL 112
3) DET 111
4) PIT 108
5) TBL 107
6) NYR 106
7) WSH 100
8) BOS 97
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9) FLA 91
10) OTT 84
11) TOR 80
12) CBJ 80
13) PHI 79
14) NJD 73
15) CAR 68
16) BUF 53
WEST
1) ANA 120
2) NSH 119
3) STL 111
4) CHI 108
5) WPG 100
6) VCR 98
7) SJS 96
8) CGY 94
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9) LAK 91
10) DAL 86
11) COL 85
12) MIN 84
13) ARZ 66
14) EDM 57
LEAGUE
1) ANA 120
2) NSH 119
3) NYI 113
4) MTL 112
5) DET 111
6) STL 111
7) PIT 108
8) CHI 108
9) TBL 107
10) NYR 106
11) WPG 100
12) WSH 100
13) VCR 98
14) BOS 97
15) SJS 96
16) CGY 94
17) FLA 91
18) LAK 91
19) DAL 86
20) COL 85
21) OTT 84
22) MIN 84
23) TOR 80
24) CBJ 80
25) PHI 79
26) NJD 73
27) CAR 68
28) ARZ 66
29) EDM 57
30) BUF 53
1) NYI 113
2) MTL 112
3) DET 111
4) PIT 108
5) TBL 107
6) NYR 106
7) WSH 100
8) BOS 97
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9) FLA 91
10) OTT 84
11) TOR 80
12) CBJ 80
13) PHI 79
14) NJD 73
15) CAR 68
16) BUF 53
WEST
1) ANA 120
2) NSH 119
3) STL 111
4) CHI 108
5) WPG 100
6) VCR 98
7) SJS 96
8) CGY 94
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9) LAK 91
10) DAL 86
11) COL 85
12) MIN 84
13) ARZ 66
14) EDM 57
LEAGUE
1) ANA 120
2) NSH 119
3) NYI 113
4) MTL 112
5) DET 111
6) STL 111
7) PIT 108
8) CHI 108
9) TBL 107
10) NYR 106
11) WPG 100
12) WSH 100
13) VCR 98
14) BOS 97
15) SJS 96
16) CGY 94
17) FLA 91
18) LAK 91
19) DAL 86
20) COL 85
21) OTT 84
22) MIN 84
23) TOR 80
24) CBJ 80
25) PHI 79
26) NJD 73
27) CAR 68
28) ARZ 66
29) EDM 57
30) BUF 53
The gap will narrow, especially over the Sens.
The Habs are 4th in the NHL in point percentage, but only 12th in goal differential.
The Sens are 22nd in point percentage, but 18th in goal differential.
The other team that, like Montreal, is poised for a big drop is the Ducks...1st in point%, but 10th in goal diff.
Leafs at 23rd and 21st, so fairly close.
Believe what you want Senseless
Same shit every year. Habs have been at the top of the East for 3 years and there's always reasons that they don't belong there... yet they continue to be there. They may be lucky but clearly they're good at being lucky.
The Habs finished 10th in point percentage and 13th in goal differential last year...not really outperforming by a large amount.
As a cautionary tale, the team that had a bigger disparity, Colorado ...3rd and 8th. How are they doing this year again?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fetchKey=20142ALLSAAALL&sort=pointPctg&viewName=summary
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-goal-differential/2013/
As a cautionary tale, the team that had a bigger disparity, Colorado ...3rd and 8th. How are they doing this year again?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fetchKey=20142ALLSAAALL&sort=pointPctg&viewName=summary
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-goal-differential/2013/
Deckie007
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He's not wrong though. Habs have the highest PDO in the league this year, and tied with the Leafs at 6th last year. Their possession numbers aren't great either. Price better keep it up, because the advanced stats say they aren't that good.
Habs are on a 112 point pace, last year 100, the year before 108 point pace.
They may eventually stop getting lucky but for now they seem like a pretty lucky/good team. 3 years of good luck.
They may eventually stop getting lucky but for now they seem like a pretty lucky/good team. 3 years of good luck.
At some point when a team or player defies "advanced stats" or "indicators" for a long enough period of time you just gotta figure that they may not apply in this case.
You are clearly just a Habs hater.
But advanced stats are used as a predictor of future performance, when that predictor fails over and over...
Are the Habs going to finish with 112 points? If I was betting money on it I'd say probably not. According to advanced stats they "shouldn't" but they've out produced the advanced stats for 3 years now... so I'm not going to bet against it either.
What'so funny is that the Hab fans went into "defend the team" mode, when all I suggested was that the 31 point gap would close...
Looks like advanced corsi has a 3rd of the league wrong... could it be that advanced corsi might not be the best indicator?
leafman101
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A goalie like Carey Price can offset the shot based stats. He has been truly elite the last two years.
Not so much "defend the team mode" as discussing your opinion.