zeke
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Is McDavid really as dangerous every shift as Matthews has been this year?
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Is McDavid really as dangerous every shift as Matthews has been this year?
MindzEye
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MindzEye
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I wouldn't argue with this, but I don't think there's a big gap there. McDavid has a solid work rate away from the puck and knows how to get it back. He's the complete package as well, there's no weaknesses there.
hockeylover
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I think McDavid's better at this point. Matthews needs a jump in points this year and then I'll rethink this.
Bleedsblue&white
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I'll need to watch McD is his zone, cause responsible he may be, but I don't know that he gets back and finds the right place top be like Matthews.
...but really, I'm usually watching Connor flying up the ice
...but really, I'm usually watching Connor flying up the ice
LeafOfFaith
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The fact that you start off by saying he's really good, maybe even great, is showing some underlying bias.
He can't be in the mix for third best, according to you, and not be absolutely great, one of the best in the league, which he is.
I think it's unfair to compare either of McDavid or Matthews to Crosby. We know exactly who Crosby is and what he's all about. He's still the best. He's repeatedly won it all.
We simply don't know that much about Matthews and McDavid yet, to be honest. McDavid had a bad injury in his first year, and then killed it offensively last year. Matthews was an unstoppable force at both ends of the ice last year and is looking even better this year. I don't think it's clear which will be the better player yet. Is McDavid the faster one - sure. Is Matthews the bigger and stronger one - yep. Can they both do incredible things that most other players can't - obviously. But as of right now, this moment, Matthews looks to me like the one who can will his team to win, while I'm not sure McDavid has that same ability. McDavid is pure offense incarnate who can skate his way past the opposition. Matthews is a scoring machine built to dangle and crash through his opposition. They're pretty different players, but I would not be at all surprised if Matthews ends up having more accolades in the end.
He can't be in the mix for third best, according to you, and not be absolutely great, one of the best in the league, which he is.
I think it's unfair to compare either of McDavid or Matthews to Crosby. We know exactly who Crosby is and what he's all about. He's still the best. He's repeatedly won it all.
We simply don't know that much about Matthews and McDavid yet, to be honest. McDavid had a bad injury in his first year, and then killed it offensively last year. Matthews was an unstoppable force at both ends of the ice last year and is looking even better this year. I don't think it's clear which will be the better player yet. Is McDavid the faster one - sure. Is Matthews the bigger and stronger one - yep. Can they both do incredible things that most other players can't - obviously. But as of right now, this moment, Matthews looks to me like the one who can will his team to win, while I'm not sure McDavid has that same ability. McDavid is pure offense incarnate who can skate his way past the opposition. Matthews is a scoring machine built to dangle and crash through his opposition. They're pretty different players, but I would not be at all surprised if Matthews ends up having more accolades in the end.
McDavid might be on another level but I think the gap between the 2 has been shrinking. If Auston can find another level things could get interesting.
I know some of you don't like Button but he's been a McDavid supporter and he said earlier today he's changing his stance and would give Matthews Connor McDavid money because Matthews is that good and that much of a difference maker, a difference maker like McDavid. He also said Auston right now is playing better than McDavid.
I know some of you don't like Button but he's been a McDavid supporter and he said earlier today he's changing his stance and would give Matthews Connor McDavid money because Matthews is that good and that much of a difference maker, a difference maker like McDavid. He also said Auston right now is playing better than McDavid.
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UWHabs
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He's a star, no question. But he still only had 70 points last year. He's not "clearly" better than a bunch of guys like Malkin, Benn, Kucherov, Karlsson, Kane, Toews (lol jk), etc...
Don't get me wrong - there's a solid chance that he might prove that before the end of the season. But he needs to keep it up for a little longer before being definitely better than that next group.
MindzEye
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a cut above Gino?
MindzEye
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I figured he was talking about centres only...
leafman101
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Thing is... he is Malkin. Geno is a big time puck hound and is constantly stealing the puck on the backcheck. He seems to have eased up a bit on his tenaciousness in recent years but I think Matthews is pretty much a Malkin clone. He's a little more prone to shoot, but I can't see a better comparable.
zeke
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tough call there. malkin's still better offensively, though with a big assist from Sid. matthews is well ahead in the defensive and possession areas, while geno's always injured to boot.
but fair enough geno still above him for now.
Deckie007
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Yup, Geno has been my comparable stylistically since last year. Whether he's a better Geno or not, well we'll have to see.
Overall he's much closer to Malkin. Not really sure where you came up with Lindros. Eric played like a tank... don't get me wrong, he had a ton of talent. Matthews has more dangle to his game, like Geno. He's also a puck hound like Malkin.