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    Quote Originally Posted by CH1 View Post
    with our drafting/development track record, I prefer young NHL players. I would seriously consider trading our mid round 1st every year. those picks are overvalued IMO
    Yep, I would too. We'd lose some and win some but I think that in the end we would be in better shape compared to drafting and developing our own players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    IMO this management team & ownership group is obviously focused on trying to win now. Acquisition of NHL ready talent vs drafting & development in the near term.

    Besides u add players like Drouin (22), and potentially Beauvillier (20 on ELC) + Leddy [26 signed for next 4-5 yrs at known price ($5M / $5.5M?)], pretty much adding NHL ready young players....and buying a few years for drat system to catch up. Leddy becomes Markov replacement & buys 2-yr window (min) to acquire/draft the next Dman in the rotation.

    BTW - I hear the next 2-drafts (2018 & 2019) are projected to be exceptionally deep.
    they can try all they want ....the win now mode isnt happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    they can try all they want ....the win now mode isnt happening
    Anyone ever tell you that you are a negative person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWHabs View Post
    At some point it comes back to bite you, but where we are on the curve, we should be pushing in the next couple years. If we can get young guys like Drouin, then at least those are guys who we can build through once this current core is past its prime and we need to rebuild.
    Your post resumes perfectly how Bergy should be thinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    Anyone ever tell you that you are a negative person?
    Nope just a realistic Habs fan , the cup is the dream . If Nero can pull it off , I will give him credit.

    Last years flawed playoff team is the starting point , we aren't even in the same area code to contend.

    We were gift wrapped a trip to the semis and shit the bed , and the division is only going to get stronger .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonKay View Post
    I hate giving up draft picks to get rid of a player, especially if its anything higher than a 4rth rounder

    They should just buy him out
    For 14? I would add a fruit basket and a gift card to Timmies to the draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    Nope just a realistic Habs fan , the cup is the dream . If Nero can pull it off , I will give him credit.

    Last years flawed playoff team is the starting point , we aren't even in the same area code to contend.

    We were gift wrapped a trip to the semis and shit the bed , and the division is only going to get stronger .
    Largely agree. Even with a good summer, Bergevin won't be out of the woods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    Anyone ever tell you that you are a negative person?
    Why are you being so negative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lecoqsportif View Post
    For 14? I would add a fruit basket and a gift card to Timmies to the draft pick.

    Git 'er dun!
    Who you teasing? You'd throw in one of those high-priced Vegas escorts to get rid of Plekanec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lecoqsportif View Post
    Largely agree. Even with a good summer, Bergevin won't be out of the woods.
    I have been waiting for 23 years to even come close to another cup. We have never looked like a serious threat in 2 decades and aren't close to emulating the talent and testosterone needed to win .

    The Drouin deal helps add to the skill department but it's clearly one step forward and one back .

    He may not solve the C problem and our D is now officially garbage and among the slowest and least skilled in the league.

    Moving 27 simply removes another skilled forward for a possible D , it's hardly a win win .

    Chevy was a huge piece moving forward , the partner for 6 and would of been our best puck mover .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    I have been waiting for 23 years to even come close to another cup. We have never looked like a serious threat in 2 decades and aren't close to emulating the talent and testosterone needed to win .
    Short memories: Habs never looked like a threat during their last 2-Cups & wouldn't have won either without lightning in a bottle miracles with favorites being knocked out.

    Dare I say, Habs haven't looked like a serious threat since 1979...doesn't mean u just waive the white flag every season.


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    The habs were near the top of the nhl standings in the late 80s and early 90s. Those were contending teams.

    The difference was the 70s team was a dominant dynasty team.

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    The Isles pick is NOT Kumelin though they are still expected to shed Grabovski in the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKerr View Post
    The habs were near the top of the nhl standings in the late 80s and early 90s. Those were contending teams.

    The difference was the 70s team was a dominant dynasty team.
    Last I checked MBs teams have been near top of the standings 4-of-5 seasons......#contendersbyabovelogic


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Last I checked MBs teams have been in the top of the standings 4-of-5 seasons......#contendersbyabovelogic
    They also went to the cup in 89 and had other cup final appearances in that stretch.

    2 cup wins. Three final appearances. 4 final fours in 7 years isnt just catching lightning in a bottle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Short memories: Habs never looked like a threat during their last 2-Cups & wouldn't have won either without lightning in a bottle miracles with favorites being knocked out.

    Dare I say, Habs haven't looked like a serious threat since 1979...doesn't mean u just waive the white flag every season.
    We were dominant in 1989, arguably our best team since the '70s. Problem is the Flames were just as good if not better. One of the rare instance when the 2 best teams in the league meet in the finals.

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    The Habs won those last two cups (86 & 93) in part because of the playoff format in existence at the time. A couple of front-runners got upset early on and the way was paved. In 86 the Habs were a pretty mediocre team yet they had home ice advantage in every round except the finals (and Calgary was another Cinderella team that year and only finished with one or two more points than Montreal) Quebec being upset by Hartford, the Islanders being upset by the Rangers and the Flames upsetting the Oilers were as significant in getting the Habs that Cup as anything the Habs themselves did. In 86 it wasn't about the teams the Habs beat; it was about the teams they didn't have to face.

    In 93, after the Habs came back to beat Quebec, their path to the finals was easy. Buffalo upset Boston and the Islanders upset the Penguins. Then in the finals they got a clearly inferior Kings team that had barely been able to beat an equally inferior Leafs team in the Conference Finals.

    Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

    But the way the playoffs work today there is less chance that you can avoid tough match-up's and parity being what it is even the supposedly "easy" match-up's aren't that easy.
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    Add the Lightning to the list of teams who reportedly have a deal in place with Vegas.

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    Chris Johnston:
    George McPhee says he has "at least" six trades completed.

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    Chris Johnston:
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