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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    Timmins = Peter Principle
    Look at it this way TT now will likely no longer hold amateur scouting responsibilities and might be poached for a GM gig...


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    I remember teasing Count years ago that the Habs will hire Bouillon as a coach one day just to piss him off.

    Should have realized they were stupid enough to do it.
    I saw the headline on TSN about the cube and the first thing I thought was Count's BF is back. MB reads these forums and 100% did this to fk with Count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xposbrad View Post
    I saw the headline on TSN about the cube and the first thing I thought was Count's BF is back. MB reads these forums and 100% did this to fk with Count.
    If only I had that much power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Look at it this way TT now will likely no longer hold amateur scouting responsibilities and might be poached for a GM gig...
    Maybe a decade ago that was possible, but TT doesn't fit the new model of smart/analytics oriented GM.
    Some GMs get you to the playoffs and some GMs get you through the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Look at it this way TT now will likely no longer hold amateur scouting responsibilities and might be poached for a GM gig...
    I would think dudley is asst gm and handles pro scouting. Timmins as asst gm would bein charge of amateur scouting

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    Dudley is Senior Advisor for pro &a amateur scouting


    “We haven’t reached the ultimate, of where you walk into the building and you can sort of smell victory. But we’re a step closer to that this year than we were last year.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Dudley is Senior Advisor for pro &a amateur scouting
    McCagg is saying Timmins is still in charge of draft.

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    Looks like everyone got promoted, except Riendeau.

    Also I don't mind Bouillon as development coach, his technique and positioning was near perfect, which is the only reason he was able to have an NHL career as a 5'8 defenseman. He had to study the game extensively to get every single edge he could to survive, that's a good guy to have teach your young players.

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    So an early exit in the playoffs warrant promotions. Nice ship Molson is running. Country club bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Look at it this way TT now will likely no longer hold amateur scouting responsibilities and might be poached for a GM gig...
    One can only hope.....one can only hope....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habsy View Post
    So an early exit in the playoffs warrant promotions. Nice ship Molson is running. Country club bullshit.
    We also had 0 graduates from Sly on the ice for the last game of the season, unless you want to count Gallagher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    We also had 0 graduates from Sly on the ice for the last game of the season, unless you want to count Gallagher.
    This is why I don't understand why he is still employed

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    Marty Lapointe was just on TSN690, as he got into talking about this generation of player, u could hear the frustration in his voice regarding how hard he felt it was getting through to them....looks to me like he was gently pushed aside.


    “We haven’t reached the ultimate, of where you walk into the building and you can sort of smell victory. But we’re a step closer to that this year than we were last year.”


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    So according the Lapointe, in the last 5 years, we have to blame every single prospect for not listening to coaching/management...and that's one of the reasons we haven't graduated anyone permanently in past 5 years ?
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    I think he was miffed at Scherbak "u can get them nutritionists, personal trainers, psychologists but at some point they have got to want to be a professional and want to succeed.....u can have all the skills but commitment & mindset is necessary.."


    “We haven’t reached the ultimate, of where you walk into the building and you can sort of smell victory. But we’re a step closer to that this year than we were last year.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    I think he was miffed at Scherbak "u can get them nutritionists, personal trainers, psychologists but at some point they have got to want to be a professional and want to succeed....."
    how about they coach them properly ?

    You can't tell me that every prospect that Sly got his hands on failed because they weren't professional or didn't want to succeed.....maybe the system needs to be changed. After 5 years, I am ready to give the benefit of the doubt to the players....not management.

    Lapointe sounds like Bergevin when he is defensive in his pressers...
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    So if Hudon or JDLR finally succeeds this season as an NHL regular....does the org get any credit for patience?


    “We haven’t reached the ultimate, of where you walk into the building and you can sort of smell victory. But we’re a step closer to that this year than we were last year.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    So if Hudon or JDLR finally succeeds this season as an NHL regular....does the org get any credit for patience?

    in the new NHL, 4th liners like JDLR are hardly worth developing as many experienced ones are available for around $1M/yr
    Some GMs get you to the playoffs and some GMs get you through the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    I think he was miffed at Scherbak "u can get them nutritionists, personal trainers, psychologists but at some point they have got to want to be a professional and want to succeed.....u can have all the skills but commitment & mindset is necessary.."
    Other teams seems to be succeeding so what's different with our players? Once again, either we're not drafting the right players, or we're not developing them properly, or both.

    Both Lapointe and Lefebvre, and Bergevin, are old schools and they responded well to tough love techniques of the past, but I don't think they understand this new generation of players, at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    So if Hudon or JDLR finally succeeds this season as an NHL regular....does the org get any credit for patience?
    Hudon yes
    JDLR no
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