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    Quote Originally Posted by DonKay View Post
    The value we’re getting is that #10 overall...I may have tunnel vision because all I see is having two picks in the top ten but I don’t see Edm giving up a pick like #10 without at least getting something back.

    Lucic is shit, we all know it but that #10 is a very nice pick to have when you are starving for quality prospects
    Oh I'd love to have that 10th overall pick, but we would pretty much be carrying a huge handicap in the next 5 years with Lucic. I'd do it straight up, but I wouldn't sweeten the pot too much.

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    Re: Lucic

    Need to keep in mind there’s a very high likelihood players will be locked out in 2020 and upon signing new deal there’ll be a non cap impacted buyout period.


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    Don’t care about Lucic too much. The opportunity for two top 10 picks is the attraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    Oh I'd love to have that 10th overall pick, but we would pretty much be carrying a huge handicap in the next 5 years with Lucic. I'd do it straight up, but I wouldn't sweeten the pot too much.
    I still think there are a couple of teams that would take that salary on amd throw in a 2nd rounder to get a shot at #10.

    I will quickly forget about Lucic if after the first round we are sitting with Quinn Hughes with #3 and one of Kotkaniemi or Wahlstrom at #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Re: Lucic

    Need to keep in mind there’s a very high likelihood players will be locked out in 2020 and upon signing new deal there’ll be a non cap impacted buyout period.
    The NHL has no basis to lock the players out again, even though I would not be shocked if Bettman did. The NHL might want more but the player nothing more to give, they have been ground down to nothing in the last two negotiations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonKay View Post
    I still think there are a couple of teams that would take that salary on amd throw in a 2nd rounder to get a shot at #10.

    I will quickly forget about Lucic if after the first round we are sitting with Quinn Hughes with #3 and one of Kotkaniemi or Wahlstrom at #10
    we won't take a 5'7 dman at 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    we won't take a 5'7 dman at 3
    5'10

    5'9 at worst

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    5'10

    5'9 at worst
    he's listed at 5'9 and most add inches to height in those circumstances.

    Bouillon was not 5'8
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    The NHL has no basis to lock the players out again, even though I would not be shocked if Bettman did. The NHL might want more but the player nothing more to give, they have been ground down to nothing in the last two negotiations.
    Basis shmasis what does basis have anything to do with it? Players have a lot more to give starting with guaranteed contracts a la NFL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    he's listed at 5'9 and most add inches to height in those circumstances.

    Bouillon was not 5'8
    He's listed at 5'10, 170lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Basis shmasis what does basis have anything to do with it? Players have a lot more to give starting with guaranteed contracts a la NFL.
    what are they going to get in return? What will the owners give up because NFL might have no guaranteed contracts but they have huge signing bonuses and other guaranteed money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    He's listed at 5'10, 170lbs.
    so he is probably 5'8.5 and 160...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    so he is probably 5'8.5 and 160...
    So pretty much everyone else at the combine got measured exactly or less than an inch from the listings but Hughes (who skipped the combine because he was at the worlds) would be the exception.

    https://thehockeywriters.com/2018-nh...ights-weights/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    what are they going to get in return? What will the owners give up because NFL might have no guaranteed contracts but they have huge signing bonuses and other guaranteed money.
    Why do the owners have to give anything up? Just destroy their souls & obliterate the players right to exist. NHL players don’t have the cajones to last out the war...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonKay View Post
    Exactly, get rid of Alzner who is actually more of a liability playing 12 minutes a game on D than Lucic playing 12 minutes a game on a bottom two lines.

    I want that #10 overall more than an Olive Garden chicken parm
    You eat at Olive Garden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    I think it's more the memories of what Lucic used to contribute to a team.
    Yeah, and would those memories be? He was known as a big power forward that would hit people.

    The goals and points were always secondary to that for a bunch of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Why do the owners have to give anything up? Just destroy their souls & obliterate the players right to exist. NHL players don’t have the cajones to last out the war...
    Jesus...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    Yeah, and would those memories be? He was known as a big power forward that would hit people.

    The goals and points were always secondary to that for a bunch of people.
    I mostly remember an intimidating 20 goals, 50-60 points winger that was a matchup nightmare. Big physical forward who can score are highly sought after, as you know. Big physical forwards who can't score, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habsy View Post
    You eat at Olive Garden?

    Yuck
    I assume he’s joking. He’d also be a social pariah in a place like Seattle if he likes Olive Garden.

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