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    Quote Originally Posted by Altair View Post
    Max Pac is getting a long term 8 or 9 million dollar deal.

    He plays the right way.
    You mean he doesn't show up in the big games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    And we don't have the assets to acquire a player of note that has a big contract, like a Duchene.
    Even teams with many young ELC assets who want Duchene have not acquired him....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Even teams with many young ELC assets who want Duchene have not acquired him....
    Be honest, if we're to get into a bidding war for Duchene (or whatever other player that fits the bill), do you think we stand a chance?

    We have Mete, Juulsen, Poehling and our future firsts. That's it. There's not much else we have available as trade pieces.
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    You mean he doesn't show up in the big games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    They should have spent it earlier, sure, but after Markov & Radulov were gone, who, pray say, was still available to be signed as a UFA? There wasn't anyone.

    And we don't have the assets to acquire a player of note that has a big contract, like a Duchene.

    I don't like that we have $8M in capspace, but I rather not spend it at all then overpay for some random players for no other reason than we can.
    I agree with all of this. Not sure why you think I don't.... you don't need to get all catty when I already agree - and have been saying this since Markov left.

    We had money to bring in a nice one year deal. I was never advocating for a long term deal of a shitty player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    If Bergevin had any decency, he'd get ahead of our prospect problems & figure out a way to trade MaxPac to the NYI for Anthony Beauvillier.
    Drafting those guys instead of trading for them would be a good way to get ahead of our prospect problems. Can't even draft from our own backyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    Be honest, if we're to get into a bidding war for Duchene (or whatever other player that fits the bill), do you think we stand a chance?

    We have Mete, Juulsen, Poehling and our future firsts. That's it. There's not much else we have available as trade pieces.
    I always mention that to posters who make absurd trade propositions for players.

    Do these posters think there are not about a dozen better offers that can be made?

    The laughable one was the offer of Sherbak, Mcarron and a 1st for Duchene

    Most if not all teams have these Sherbak and Macaron types lingering around in the AHL.

    The best asset we had that allowed MB to be a player in acquiring a top end talent was Sergachev...we don't have much else
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    Be honest, if we're to get into a bidding war for Duchene (or whatever other player that fits the bill), do you think we stand a chance?

    We have Mete, Juulsen, Poehling and our future firsts. That's it. There's not much else we have available as trade pieces.
    Peace....not arguing the Habs complete lack of ELC assets to dangle (and let’s be honest in a cap world AAV is everything and ELC assets w value carry the ultimate price tag).

    However, we no longer live in the era of wheeling & dealing. Yes Johansson was dealt for Jones - what other pieces of real value were dealt that season other than deadline rentals? MB perhaps made the biggest deal of this season in acquiring Drouin.

    What has impressed me over the past 2-3 seasons is how GMs all of a sudden seem no longer to be sucked into overpaying on a deal. We can say MB should’ve “overpaid” and upped the Johanssen offer by adding an extra pick, but that still wouldn’t negate the higher 2nd rounder NJD will likely give up relative to Habs - would people really have offered up a Habs 1st?

    Having said that I would offer up a 1st right now to LV for Shea Theodore - MBs got no choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    Drafting those guys instead of trading for them would be a good way to get ahead of our prospect problems. Can't even draft from our own backyard.
    I literally couldn't care less about this sentiment. I really couldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonKay View Post
    I always mention that to posters who make absurd trade propositions for players.

    Do these posters think there are not about a dozen better offers that can be made?

    The laughable one was the offer of Sherbak, Mcarron and a 1st for Duchene

    Most if not all teams have these Sherbak and Macaron types lingering around in the AHL.

    The best asset we had that allowed MB to be a player in acquiring a top end talent was Sergachev...we don't have much else
    Good thing we traded him to acquire a player that isn't playing his natural position. What could possibly go wrong?
    Elite goaltending will hide a lot of a bad team's flaws and make them look a lot better than they truly are. That's why Carey Price is the single most important player to his team in the NHL.

    My new poorly written out thoughts on this season's Montreal Canadiens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    Good thing we traded him to acquire a player that isn't playing his natural position. What could possibly go wrong?
    The bigger issue when you have an organization so poorly run and very little depth anywhere is that flipping one key asset for another creates a hole.

    We get the valuable top end talent in Drouin but we sacrifice what we sorely need on the back end which is the top two puck moving dman in the making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    I literally couldn't care less about this sentiment. I really couldn't.
    I'd care less if we were adept at drafting elsewhere but I found our terrible record from the Q to be completely unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGpX View Post
    Good thing we traded him to acquire a player that isn't playing his natural position. What could possibly go wrong?
    Drouin played center most of his life, he'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    I'd care less if we were adept at drafting elsewhere but I found our terrible record from the Q to be completely unacceptable.
    I’m more flabbergasted at the abysmal performance of drafting from the OHL - the best prospect feeder program for the NHL over the past 15-yrs....by far.

    Mete is all there’s to show for


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    I’m more flabbergasted at the abysmal performance of drafting from the OHL - the best prospect feeder program for the NHL over the past 15-yrs....by far.

    Mete is all there’s to show for
    I agree. Well we had Subban as well as Galchenyuk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    I’m more flabbergasted at the abysmal performance of drafting from the OHL - the best prospect feeder program for the NHL over the past 15-yrs....by far.

    Mete is all there’s to show for
    Mete is gonna break some hearts around here. Can't see him amounting to much.

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    I agree. Well we had Subban as well as Galchenyuk.
    Yet we keep promoting Timmins.
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    Hemsky healthy scratch, Streit on the block, Martinsen on waivers, King released, Ott retired. Some real HOT acquisitions by Bergevin!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs4Life View Post
    Hemsky healthy scratch, Streit on the block, Martinsen on waivers, King released, Ott retired. Some real HOT acquisitions by Bergevin!

    Ott had a popular Instagram post when he was with the Habs, I guess they'll consider that a success.
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