GDT: Game #50 | Habs @ Blues | Jan 30th 2018 @ 20:00

worm said:

Not sure that happens this time. I think we could bounce back to a bubble team but they would need to do a lot of work to replace markov/radulov

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Rolex said:

We didn't have Radulov before, and Markov had two injuries that kept him out 2 years, but Habs were still top of their division, or close

All this because Price kept us relevant.....if Price plays like a top 3 goalie (he hopefully should), then I could see us comfortably in a playoff spot next season.

We suck this year because Price is not masking our mistakes.....it's not Price's fault, but it's management's fault for building such a team in front of Price

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Rolex said:

We didn't have Radulov before, and Markov had two injuries that kept him out 2 years, but Habs were still top of their division, or close

All this because Price kept us relevant.....if Price plays like a top 3 goalie (he hopefully should), then I could see us comfortably in a playoff spot next season.

We suck this year because Price is not masking our mistakes.....it's not Price's fault, but it's management's fault for building such a team in front of Price

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Habsy said:

They won't. No way the union agrees to that.

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CaptainBolduke said:

This is the worst team Price has had in front of him. It won't be much better next year either. Weber will be older and likely continue to be an injury threat. Maybe Mete will be OK, but the rest of the defense is horrible. We are 3 or 4 players away from being competitive. We need both forwards and d-men. This team is in rough shape. It's going to be a process.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the people that figured we would be OK this year are the same people that believe we will be OK next season.

There is a lot of heart over brain happening here with fans. I understand it though. It's hard to accept.

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worm said:

The last few times we missed the playoffs.

Before the lockout we were mostly unlucky. We had a decent GF/GA but lost a lot of 1 goal games so that was going to correct itself and it did the lockout short season.
Price was not actually great that year IIRC he faded hard at the end of the season. We had a decent team though with Subban breaking out, Max being a playmaker (seriously he had the second more assists on the team). Pleks was still good. Gallagher was good, etc.

The next time we missed it was largely due to Price being hurt. A healthy Price with the addition of Radulov (replacing pleks) and Weber replacing Subban was enough.

This year injuries, Price sucking, Max sucking. Next year I am just not sure Price being good lets say .925 does anything other than get us close to the playoffs.
Assuming it is the same team you expect Max to be back to his normal self and for Weber to be healthy but you still do not have a number 2 Dman, I would not expect Gallagher to keep it up. We still have no centres. etc

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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:

The union didn't want a salary cap either but they're stuck with one now. The league knows that the union is a paper tiger.

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Sal_Butera said:

Hope non-guaranteed contracts seep in next lockout.

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Sal_Butera said:

Hope non-guaranteed contracts seep in next lockout.

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CH1 said:

Nah. I don't see the premise for a lockout. Players and owners have figured out how to split the revenue pie.

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Sal_Butera said:

Hope non-guaranteed contracts seep in next lockout.

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CH1 said:

Nah. I don't see the premise for a lockout. Players and owners have figured out how to split the revenue pie.

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GrandWazoo said:

When was the last time that the CBA was up and that the NHL didn't go into lockout? That was pre-Bettman.

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Sal_Butera said:

Yup - NHL owners only want one thing...complete destruction of players union like NFL.

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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:

And I hope that they get it because I'm tired of every discussion about trades, signings and players in general constantly being framed around how much money and term it costs and whether or not this team or that team is on so-and-so's no trade list. From a fans point of view all I want is for players to do what they're told, when they're told and how they're told. I'm not dependent on them for my financial livelihood so I don't care how much or how little they get paid, whether they like the city they play in or don't, or what happens to them once they can't play anymore. Not my problem. I just need them to do their damn jobs and STFU. Hockey was more entertaining and the fans better served back when the players had no power.

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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:

And I hope that they get it because I'm tired of every discussion about trades, signings and players in general constantly being framed around how much money and term it costs and whether or not this team or that team is on so-and-so's no trade list. From a fans point of view all I want is for players to do what they're told, when they're told and how they're told. I'm not dependent on them for my financial livelihood so I don't care how much or how little they get paid, whether they like the city they play in or don't, or what happens to them once they can't play anymore. Not my problem. I just need them to do their damn jobs and STFU. Hockey was more entertaining and the fans better served back when the players had no power.

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worm said:

Not sure that happens this time. I think we could bounce back to a bubble team but they would need to do a lot of work to replace markov/radulov

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GrandWazoo said:

When was the last time that the CBA was up and that the NHL didn't go into lockout? That was pre-Bettman.

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CH1 said:

small sample size and recency bias at work here :smilewinkgrin:

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