worm
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and i still hate lucic
even the oilers fans i know hate him
for different reasons of course aka he is terrible at the hockey
Plekanec traded to Maple Leafs
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and i still hate lucic
even the oilers fans i know hate him
for different reasons of course aka he is terrible at the hockey
worm
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leafs have been bad for the last 50 years so they are not relevant
east coast
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There is no hatred like mine for the Leafs. That said, having grown up in sixties, I have huge respect for their team and players of that decade, the one that made me literally cry in 64 and 67.
Keon and Bower top the list.
Keon and Bower top the list.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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What makes the Leafs the greater evil isn't the team itself but its insufferable fan base. Bruins fans only bother you when they have something to crow about. Leafs fans are like herpes. win or lose you can never be rid of them. You can only control them. The best way to do that is for their team not to win. Not ever, if possible.
worm
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that is legit
Altair
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Yeah, this
The ones on forum boards aren't to bad, as one deals with then enough to not hate one another, but those you meet in person are insufferable
LeafGm
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Yeah, when it comes to the on-ice stuff between Leafs/Habs, the rivalry doesn't really exist, and never really has in my life-time. Between the Leafs' long stretch in the Western conference, the lack of playoff series, and the tendency of the two franchises to take turns being awful, the "rivalry" is purely a historical thing at this point.
For me, the Leaf/Hab rivalry today mainly comes down to the fact that, out of every 10 hockey fans in Toronto, it seems like at least one or two of them are the most vile creature imaginable: someone who grew up in/lives in Toronto, yet they hate the Maple Leafs and love the Canadiens with equal degrees of passion.
When you have always known a few of those people throughout your life, it does add something to Toronto/Montreal games. Either way, someone's having to put up with some trash talk afterwards.
Do you feel the rivalry with Ottawa is more intense?
I think I read a poll over the last couple of years that had fans in Toronto saying the Montreal/Toronto rivavlry is more intense/greater than Ottawa/Toronto.
LeafGm
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It definitely was for a while. During the late 90's/early 00's, at the height of the "Battle of Ontario" years, I despised the Sens.
That's died off a fair bit, though.
The Leafs going into the tank for an entire decade certainly didn't help keep the rivalry going. But it also kind of feels like the Sens organization and their fans have kind of thrown in the towel. The Sens have become a cheapskate, Mickey Mouse organization that mainly aspires to be mediocre, and save their owner as much money as possible.
And then not only do Leaf fans completely take over their building whenever the Leafs play in Ottawa, but Ottawa fans can't even be bothered to show up to their team's own playoff games.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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After my family moved from Montreal to Toronto (and later Oshawa) I went from not knowing that Leafs fans existed to being surrounded by people who were more delusional than your average Trump supporter. I suddenly found myself in arguments where Leafs fans would try to tell me with a straight face that Sittler and MacDonald were better than Lafleur and Shutt, that Ian Turnbull and Borje Salming were better than Robinson and Lapointe, and that Mike Freakin' Palmateer was better than Dryden. Like arguing with Trump supporters, objective fact and logic were ignored by these people. They chose to believe their own truth and deny anything that contradicted their chosen narrative, like anti-vaxxers or flat-earthers. So you'd better believe that I made the most of those two 4-game playoff sweeps in 78 and 79.
CaptainBolduke
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Pleks won't be used much in Tor. I'm already getting messages from my Leaf buddies complaining about him.
LeafGm
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He wasn't ever going to be used much, considering he was acquired as a Dominic Moore upgrade. Once Matthews is back, he'll be back on the 4th line.
As for his performance---I dunno. He didn't come in and blow the doors off, but he's generally been pretty solid.
Particularly when you consider that in the two-and-a-half days since learning he'd been traded to Toronto, he's flown to Toronto for a physical, caught a second flight down to Miami to join the rest of the team, and then played on back-to-back nights against Tampa & Florida.
yeah not sure why anyone would expect him all of a sudden to become a scorer given he has 17 goals in two seasons. He will give you solid defence and leadership. That is why you got him for 18 games and playoffs.
Altair
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Yup, you can see it on the leafs board now as well.
I'm not sure anybody is impressed.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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And shaved off his goatee. Don't forget that. For him it must feel like playing without wearing a helmet.
Lou probably makes the Leaf players do full body shaves as he watches...
LeafGm
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I laughed when he showed up to his first meeting with Toronto reporters cleanly shaven.
At least for his sake, Lou let him keep the turtlenecks.
Won't Lou even let your players grow those ugly playoff beards?