MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Would also gut Alabama, Missouri, Ohio and a bunch of other states that make a ton of auto parts. AKA, Trump country.
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Would also gut Alabama, Missouri, Ohio and a bunch of other states that make a ton of auto parts. AKA, Trump country.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
for sure
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Dougie has our back
zeke
Well-known member
they key is to make sure Europe is on board.
Altair
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Altair
Well-known member
I would love a unified Chinese, Mexican, canadian, European coordinated strategy.
Although at that point, are we adhoc members of the Shanghai group?
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
He doesn't know that. But immediate job losses in Trump country would alert him to that very quickly.
Altair
Well-known member
Maybe.
But to date they are doubling down on this global trade war, with no sign of slowing down.
zeke
Well-known member
how globalist of you.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
No more than we would become a defacto member of the Eurozone.
We're a big enough player that we're not easily pushed around. We also tend to play well with others, so easily attract other similar or smaller sized players to the game to balance out the big kids.
Altair
Well-known member
Notice how I didn't say join the EU.
I am rather globalist, I firmly believe and support NATO, the G7, G20, the Paris accord, NAFTA, CETA, TPP. The only organization I don't support is the EU
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Because there's been no real world consequences yet. We're still in "this is so easy" mode. A bully always continues pushing until he gets punched in the nose, and not a moment sooner. In this context, putting tariffs on American products isn't the punch. His base feeling it on the ground in terms of lost jobs is the punch. Sadly that looks like what this is going to have to come to.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Which is odd because the EU is a more democratic, more flexible version of those trade agreements with a common currency and open borders.
Altair
Well-known member
Would you support open borders with the USA? A common currency? A north american government system with power over national governing bodies?
How about this, would you want southern US republican lawmakers having any say in canadian laws and affairs?
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
That you continue to return to this retort kind of underlines how you chronically misunderstand what the EU actually is in political, social, and economic structure. For all the complaints of Germany "dominating" the EU economically, it's a trillion dollars smaller than the combined French/UK economies. There would be no such balance in a similar deal between Canada and the US. To flip it a slightly different way. If that was us on the border of Europe and not Russia and we were invited to the actual EU, I would absolutely support open borders and economic integration with Europe.
Bad analogies are bad.
Altair
Well-known member
You are lucky to live in Canada and I'll leave it at that.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
In my scenario, I would still live in Canada. This idea of unchecked sovereignty that you cling to simply doesn't exist when you're a member of these multi national trade pacts.
Altair
Well-known member
NATO and the G7, or Paris accord doesn't want Canada to drop the canadian dollar does it now?