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OT: American Politics

BS. total BS. the story thats emerging is that groups with right wing key words in the titles were singled out for extra scrutiny.

you're such a windbag.

following the decision in citizens united social advocacy organizations, which were recognized as social welfare org's and granted special status under s 501(c)(4) of the IRC, became more prominent political vehicles ... colloquially these are what are called 'super pacs'...

501(c)(4) corps are distinguished from 501(c)(3) corps -- what we normally think of as charities -- based on being disallowed (generally) from issuing tax receipts. but they enjoy tax exempt status.

the irs has always, ALWAYS scrutinized charitable status because of the tax benefits it confers. they obviously placed closer scrutiny on (4)'s following the decision in citizens united, which basically said that the government cannot restrain corproate political donations or the behaviour of corporate donors; the effect was increased use of these vehicles for political ends (since the 'social welfare' distinction is kind of blurry).

closer scrutiny was placed on status for all similar organizations. the problem was a directive... to this point, evidence suggests only in a limited number of irs offices... to focus specifically on organizations taht were identifiably conservative/tea party supporters, based on their names.

it is unclear if these organizations were disproportionately rejected. what we do know is that even left wing organizations have been denied status.

that isn't bs. that's cold hard fact.

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/15/meet_the_group_the_irs_actually_revoked_democrats/
 
you are having an argument with yourself here.

you also clearly lack an undersatnding of the matters before you.

of course, i said that left wing groups were also scrutinized, to which you said 'bs'.

but it's not bs.

/end of discussion on this matter, dumdum
 
No I didn't. I said the story is that right wing groups have clearly come under much MORE scrutiny under this administration. Those are the facts. You can try to end the discussion all you want. This scandal won't go away.
 
No I didn't. I said the story is that right wing groups have clearly come under much MORE scrutiny under this administration. Those are the facts. You can try to end the discussion all you want. This scandal won't go away.

mbow:

they all did and superpacs on both sides were denied status.

simple questeion-- do you know thes lightest hing about charity designation?


stupid*******:

BS. total BS. the story thats emerging is that groups with right wing key words in the titles were singled out for extra scrutiny.



and don't spew about 'facts' that you (a) don't know on a topic that you (b) don't understand
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

watched the nova scotia terrorist episode last night

so good
 
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...4/wonkbook-some-very-good-news-for-obamacare/

Obamacare got some very good news on Thursday.
In 2009, the Congressional Budget Office predicted that a medium-level “silver” plan — which covers 70 percent of a beneficiary’s expected health costs — on the California health exchange would cost $5,200 annually. More recently, a report from the consulting firm Milliman predicted it would carry a $450 monthly premium. Yesterday, we got the real numbers. And they’re lower than anyone thought......
 
Ok, so then why are his big union backers and prominent democrat senators saying its a disaster? Lots of spin going on here, but the trouble for your argument is that the article i cited is from left wing sources. They certainly wouldn't spin against hopeychange.
 
Ok, so then why are his big union backers and prominent democrat senators saying its a disaster? Lots of spin going on here, but the trouble for your argument is that the article i cited is from left wing sources. They certainly wouldn't spin against hopeychange.

The problem with your twist on things is it's simply regurgitated goo from your favourite RW media sources. You know, those Lemming Masters.
"ObamaCare" is basically RomneyCare nationwide. Instead of embracing the positives of it, and taking ownership of the concept, (it did come from one of their own first), the GOP just defy all logic again and rail against it, because the OTHER party adopted it.
And you're squarely on board with their illogical bashing of it, like the obedient little Lemming you are.
 
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