The MB proposal for Vanek was offered to Snow first thing in the AM, Habs had cap space no other team had the ability to absorb Vanek’s entire cap hit without sending $ back. There were a number of teams that were after Vanek, he was the prized asset as deadline day approached in 2014, but none of the other teams had cap space to fully absorb Vanek’s entire cap hit, and Snow had strict orders to dump & not take on any $. Vanek only netted Colberg + 2nd because MB had all the leverage as deadline close approached - Snow had to get something/anything for Vanek.
U have to give credit where credits due, MBs team was structured (that season) to absorb big deadline acquisition, and his deadline day strategy worked to perfection.
BTW - Vanek’s impact post-trade was huge on the Habs, they went on a pretty good roll for he rest of the regular season, from what I recall. Also without Vanek & Briere Habs don’t defeat the Bruins that playoffs.
You got this one wrong Sal. Teams don’t just realize they have no cap space on trade deadline day, that makes no sense...
What happened was Snow was not getting the value he wanted and some GMs were dicking him around so he basically gift wrapped Vanek to MB (they have a connection from their playing days). That’s why it happened at 3pm.
I’m not evaluating anything, the question was why MB only acquires Byron, Weise & Danault types, it’s because he has no assets in his development pool to replace a roster player should said player be dealt to acquire an impact player or use to acquire an impact player.
BTW there may be “tons of Danault & Byron” yet MB has never made an overpayment like a 1st + 3rd rounder for any of them as happened to Gaustad and many others on deadline day.
Also as I clearly, stated that lack of ELC asset availability is MBs biggest fault as GM. Whereas Poile can acquire Johanssen because his amateur system excels at finding & developing Dman.
U also evaluate a GM by the team he builds to win with over a long course, trades should be last ditch alternative to patch up minor areas of need not an evaluation measuring stick - a team should be 98% built via drafting & player development.
Something drastic has to be done with this org, u cannot hope to have any aspirations of the Cup with 43-years of putrid performance in the 1st round of the draft - highest probability of procuring a top end talent is the 1st round after all.
What the fan thinks has zero correlation to Habs performance. This June marks 6-GMs & 12-head coaches into the 25-year drought - or better put roughly a new GM every 4-yrs and a head coach every 2-yearsPreds got Turris for Girard who is slightly better than Mete maybe, Kamenev and a 2nd rounder, a very solid C who could be no1 with Habs.
I think we as fans should stop finding excuses as well, otherswise as you said this organisation will be what it is in the next 25 years as well.
McPhee was an idiot for trading Forsberg for Erat, and now a genius for building the LV team - reality of the matter, there is no GM presently in the NHL who is either a genius or idiot, just varying versions of above avg.BTW, Duchene deal was probably Sakic best move ever, how he managed to get that much for Duchene is beyond me.
McPhee was an idiot for trading Forsberg for Erat, and now a genius for building the LV team - reality of the matter, there is no GM presently in the NHL who is either a genius or idiot, just varying versions of above avg.
McPhee was an idiot for trading Forsberg for Erat, and now a genius for building the LV team - reality of the matter, there is no GM presently in the NHL who is either a genius or idiot, just varying versions of above avg.
Every GM does a bad to terrible move, even though the moment McPhee traded Forsberg, he was a prospect who was not even a top 10 draft, but the important is to repair your mistakes with few IMPACT moves as i have mentioned, something MB was unable to do. Few of patching holes kind of moves here and there and scrap moves like the one today.
I agree. Trading involves risk. It's ok to be wrong. Not ok to stay wrong while neglecting the same need year after year.
I agree. Trading involves risk. It's ok to be wrong. Not ok to stay wrong while neglecting the same need year after year.
Forsberg was projected top-5 pick going into the draft but kept falling - he was picked what 12th by Caps?Every GM does a bad to terrible move, even though the moment McPhee traded Forsberg, he was a prospect who was not even a top 10 draft, but the important is to repair your mistakes with few IMPACT moves as i have mentioned, something MB was unable to do. Few of patching holes kind of moves here and there and scrap moves like the one today.
Yup - prime example for hope not being a strategy.I agree. Trading involves risk. It's ok to be wrong. Not ok to stay wrong while neglecting the same need year after year.
There were plenty of opportunities to get creative to land a C . You can't expect miracles to move up to get studs at the top of the draft .
But Barzal, Kyrou , Frost and others were not impossible to get as they weren't top picks in their drafts .
I am not even mentioning the missed opportunities like Kutznetsov , Giroux and others .
No worse place to be when you can't draft/develop or make a move to get one .
In 6 years hoping for 1 creative move isn't asking for much .
He dominates when he's on the ice. Maybe we can flip Drouin+ for him, lol ..