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No offence .... but vegas doesnt have the assets to deal for karlsson if some teams like edmonton leafs winnipeg as well as Florida and others decide to get involved.
Nylander, gardiner and martin, zaitsev a 1st and then sign tavares to recoup nylander loss.
Sens could always flip gardiner and/or zaitsev. Plus they get the draft choice and a good young player in nylander. Yes more money short term but savings long term.
Even if ottawa will take some money back in exchange for the first rounder (Say 3 million for the ryan contract) which the leafs can even give them the money (wink wink) under the table and melnyk can pocket if he wants).
Then Hope that ryan lights it up with tavares and matthews and trade him asap .... if not, trade him to a team along with a draft choice and a prospect.
Lets see, gardiner will want at least 6 million next season, nylander 7 million and martins 2.5 contract and zaitsev and his 4.5 thats 20 million.
Sens take on more money now but lose the ryan contract, and leafs take on more money but get 2 premier players, karlsson and hopefully tavares. If ryan can ever find his groove again then that would be a bonus.
The cap will be going up the next few year (except the lockout) and you hope 2 of the dmen on the marlies can help this year.
So from what I can figure, tavares 11 million, karlsson 11 million and Ryan 7.5 million ( minus 3 million retained by ottawa) equals 26.5 million ..... minus gardiner (next season 6 to 6.5 million, martin 2.5, zaitsev 4.5 and Nylander 7 mil .... 21.5 million so really 5 million more for the leafs.

If karlssons or Ryan injuries are a concern then you can LTI.
Hell you.hope Ryan can be put on the lupul island.

Hyman matthews kapanen
Ryan tavares marner
Marleau kadri brown
Johnsson gauthier leivo
Soshnikov grunsrom aaltonen and marchment.

Rielly karlsson
Hainsey dermott
Borgman rosen
Carrick neilsen
And the other kids they gor from russia a few weeks ago.

I know the 4th line looks a bit weak but matthews, tavares and kadri together will be playing around 52 53 minutes of the game. So gauthier will be a little sheltered there.
Just a thought.
Also ottawa recoups the first they are losing this year.
Steep price but you have lilly knocking on the defence door in 2 years .... karlason, rielly, dermott and lilly as your top four in 2 years ..... marner matthews and tavares up front ...
Jmho
So zeke what is wrong with my numbers?
 
MindzEye said:
That's a hell of a thing to gamble taking 7.25 x 4 on in a useless player though.

If Eugene insists on Bobby Ryan being part of the deal, it's a hard pass for me interest wise. That's just too big an albatross when it's going to already come with 11-12 million in extension money for a not quite 100% healthy looking Karlsson from last season.

Vegas can afford to eat that to get Karlsson (and it probably saves them from having to send their best kids out in a deal, which they should prefer), but I don't think we can with the wunderkids due big contracts shortly.
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I generally agree with all of this. Fitting the $12M+ Karlsson would probably demand would already be tough enough. Adding Ryan's albatross contract as well would seemingly make it impossible.

There's also a scary element of risk. Karlsson had some pretty major, potentially life-altering surgery on his foot last off-season, and then never looked like himself last season. Maybe that was because he started the season late and had to play catch-up, while playing for a team that was a complete catastrophe on the ice, in the dressing room and in the front office. But there's no way to know.

I guess I was looking to see if anyone here could/would present a credible argument why a move like that would be worth considering.
 
Karlsson is NOT coming to Toronto. After ALL the crap their fans have had to put up with, shipping their C and their best player to Toronto would be the worst thing they can do to their fanbase. Ottawa management and ownership will never ship Karlsson to Toronto, even if we package Marner + Liljegren + 1st.

I do agree EDM can easily top LVG's offer, and I think don't think he is going to LVG for sure.
 
Artnes said:
Got a feeling they wont last long here if so. It didnt take long for Mrs Lucic to want out..
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I dunno, is that the issue?

Or is it moreso that Chiarelli & Edmonton's front office are realizing that...


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As for Karlsson-to-Edmonton, I can't possibly see the Karlssons having any interest with that.

The appeal of playing with McDavid isn't enough to outweigh the shitty team they've built around him, their shitty management and the city you'd have to live in.
 
LeafGm said:
I dunno, is that the issue?

Or is it moreso that Chiarelli & Edmonton's front office are realizing that...


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Been told its part of the problem by a few people on the inside and it's already happened
 
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Artnes said:
Been told its part of the problem by a few people on the inside and it's already happened
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Well, best of luck to Mrs. Lucic then, because this isn't exactly a "Chris Pronger asking out of Edmonton in his prime, after almost single-handedly dragging the team to the Cup final" type of situation.

Her husband's lack of offensive contributions even when playing with McDavid was downright Clarkson-esque, and that contract seems pretty likely to keep them chained to the city of Edmonton for the foreseeable future.
 
Yeah, lets not act like this is Lucic wanting out of Edmonton, vs a handful of smart people convincing the morons up there he's awful.

Does EK have a NMC? if so like everyone else before him i assume he picks anywhere other than Edmonton or Buffalo.

I still dig Vegas for him, dark horse Jersey, though i can see Melnyk imposing some stupid rule of moving him out West despite not being able to compete in the East until Karlsson's kid is drafted and he's long dead.
 
LeafGm said:
I generally agree with all of this. Fitting the $12M+ Karlsson would probably demand would already be tough enough. Adding Ryan's albatross contract as well would seemingly make it impossible.

There's also a scary element of risk. Karlsson had some pretty major, potentially life-altering surgery on his foot last off-season, and then never looked like himself last season. Maybe that was because he started the season late and had to play catch-up, while playing for a team that was a complete catastrophe on the ice, in the dressing room and in the front office. But there's no way to know.

I guess I was looking to see if anyone here could/would present a credible argument why a move like that would be worth considering.
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I don't think Karlsson should even have played at all last season on that foot. Not that Ottawa could afford to shelve him given their attendance issues.
 
Dreger reporting Tavares is focusing on an extension and Lou has been in talks with him daily for the last 2 weeks

And after watching the video its clickbait. Basically says Tavares is negotiating right now but if things dont go well in the next week he will likely explore the FA window
 
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That extra year is hard to turn down. That's a lot of bread. That, and NYI is one of the few teams in the league who have the dire need & cap space to give him 11+ million a year.
 
MindzEye said:
That extra year is hard to turn down. That's a lot of bread. That, and NYI is one of the few teams in the league who have the dire need & cap space to give him 11+ million a year.
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Habs have both dire need and cap space.
 
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