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MindzEye
04-13-2019, 10:41 PM
Insane.

The plan was always to roll the dice and shoot for a title this season, and if it didn't work, tear down and rebuild. He's at one of the best organizations in the league with a blank cheque, complete autonomy and complete job security. He's not going anywhere.

wiseguy1
04-13-2019, 10:48 PM
THE MIGHTY UJIRI , MASTER OF BALLSY MOVES , BOWS OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND, LEONARD BOLTS...MAJOR GOAT HORNS BABY...

CH1
04-13-2019, 10:49 PM
Stop. While you’re way behind.

wiseguy1
04-13-2019, 10:50 PM
On a day the Blue Jays won...and nobody cared.

MindzEye
04-13-2019, 11:04 PM
THE MIGHTY UJIRI , MASTER OF BALLSY MOVES , BOWS OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND, LEONARD BOLTS...MAJOR GOAT HORNS BABY...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CRvlTjeHWzA/maxresdefault.jpg

HabsFan1
04-14-2019, 01:29 AM
Seeing JV there today. Makes me think he will be back as a free agent. Just a hunch.

MyNameIsJonas
04-14-2019, 10:05 AM
Anyone who thinks our shitty or their amazing 3 point shooting is suatainable is daft. We got this in 6

zeke
04-15-2019, 02:53 PM
2pters: Raps +12pts
3pters: Magic +6pts
Frees: Magic +9pts

GEEMAN
04-15-2019, 04:45 PM
Insane.

The plan was always to roll the dice and shoot for a title this season, and if it didn't work, tear down and rebuild. He's at one of the best organizations in the league with a blank cheque, complete autonomy and complete job security. He's not going anywhere.

There was no other plan than this . Couldn't come back with DD/KYLE ISO nonsense in the playoffs .

If KL leaves you have Ibaka , Lowry and Gasol on expiring deals which have significant trade value .

The pterodactyl and OG are your future pieces and you rebuild .

Genius risk trade by our GM regardless of the outcome .

zeke
04-16-2019, 08:35 PM
Better start defensively but still disjointed offensively.

But hey Kyle scored.

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 08:49 PM
Kyle looks good. Appears to have gotten rid of those opening night jitters. Raps up a bunch in the 2nd Q

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 08:54 PM
Hit a ****ing shot Norm.

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 09:02 PM
The last 2 fouls on Kawhi were both turrible. On replay there was clearly no foul.

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 09:12 PM
Toronto is in the lead, being more aggressive, getting more balls into the paint. 14 fouls on Toronto, 8 on Orlando.

At least try to make it look fair you ****ing ****s.

TimHorton
04-16-2019, 09:13 PM
If the Raps could knock down an open J this would already be over

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 09:13 PM
Kyle with a great bounce back half

12 point lead at half.

zeke
04-16-2019, 09:17 PM
Refs are so ****ed.

Anyways, great half from Kyle.

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 09:17 PM
Raptors have 28 points in the paint to Orlando's 12. Raptors have 15 fouls (Kawhi with 4) to Orlando's 8.

This is technically possible, but man.

zeke
04-16-2019, 09:18 PM
And norm can't play against better teams. We can only get away with it this round

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 09:35 PM
The only thing more ridiculous than the officiating in this game, is Kawhi...who is en fuego.

zeke
04-16-2019, 09:37 PM
Kawhi just voltronned.

zeke
04-16-2019, 09:45 PM
Is this already the best playoff performance in raps history?

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 09:47 PM
Is this already the best playoff performance in raps history?

Yeah, this was a massive statement game. Orlando had to play their absolute best to get within a great last second shot of stealing a game. The Raps have basically said **** everything about taking them lightly now.

CH1
04-16-2019, 09:51 PM
This is fun. I want to see more of this.

MindzEye
04-16-2019, 10:05 PM
This is fun. I want to see more of this.

I'd like to see this with better than high school level refs calling the game.

If this was your first basketball game, you would rightly be confused coming away from it not knowing what a shooting foul is. At the minimum, you would be asking if it was the team in white's turn to get them next game.

zeke
04-16-2019, 10:05 PM
Officially the biggest lead in raps playoffs history.

sad, but cool anyways,

CH1
04-16-2019, 10:07 PM
I'd like to see this with better than high school level refs calling the game.

If this was your first basketball game, you would rightly be confused coming away from it not knowing what a shooting foul is. At the minimum, you would be asking if it was the team in white's turn to get them next game.

It’s an awful display. Thank god for video tape performance reviews.

zeke
04-16-2019, 11:20 PM
https://oi609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/artpezz/55C44F26-ACDC-4B17-8E3D-259ADD0E09FE_zpsz4t130ll.gif

LeafOfFaith
04-17-2019, 03:02 AM
Who’s that?

Kawhi was insane tonight. So fun to see.

Romp, zekie!

Aberdeen
04-17-2019, 06:24 AM
That's awesome

zeke
04-17-2019, 10:50 AM
we can't do two parades, right?

we have to combine them into one giant parade, i guess.

CTheBigPicture
04-17-2019, 10:56 AM
I've kept all my vacation days. Drink... parade...drink...next parade...drink.

Can't go to work after that week.

LeafGm
04-17-2019, 11:15 AM
I've kept all my vacation days. Drink... parade...drink...next parade...drink.

Can't go to work after that week.
Yeah, that's a veteran move.

If the Leafs made it to a Cup final, I'd definitely be taking a vacation from the day of game #4 of the series to at least 3-4 days after the series was scheduled to be over.

zeke
04-17-2019, 12:00 PM
Playoffs Kawhi Update

BPM

18-19: REG 5.0 ---> PLYF 13.4
16-17: REG 7.9 ---> PLYF 11.3
15-16: REG 8.3 ---> PLYF 10.6

WS48

18-19: REG .224 --> PLYF .348
16-17: REG .264 --> PLYF .314
15-16: REG .277 --> PLYF .271


yeah it's real and it's spectacular.

zeke
04-18-2019, 04:01 PM
Free Throw Attempts

MIL 47 - DET 30 (+17)
TOR 31 - ORL 44 (-13)
PHI 74 - BKN 55 (+19)
BOS 31 - IND 31 (----)

GSW 65 - LAC 53 (+12)
DEN 50 - SAS 45 (+5)
POR 48 - OKC 51 (-3)
HOU 42 - UTA 45 (-3)


Toronto FTApg

Regular: 22.0 for / 22.3 against
Playoffs: 15.5 for / 22.0 against

Orlando FTApg

Regular 19.2 for / 20.9 against
Playoffs 22.0 for / 15.5 against

Killer93
04-19-2019, 08:59 AM
NBGay

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 09:20 AM
Literally every excuse for NBA officiating has been exhausted here. We were the home team in front of a loud crowd (which we've been told effects officiating) and we were told for years that star players and elite teams get the calls, so we went and got a top 5 player and have been a top 5 team for a bunch of years now, and we still can't get a well officiated game against the Orlando ****ing Magic in our own house.

HabsFan1
04-19-2019, 09:44 AM
NBA doesnít want to see Toronto win lol

CH1
04-19-2019, 10:48 AM
Refs suck. See Blue Jay thread.

https://www.bu.edu/today/2019/mlb-umpires-strike-zone-accuracy/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiossports&stream=top

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 03:38 PM
I've been on the robot umpire train for years. **** human error from officials deciding games.

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 04:37 PM
Playoff Kawhi

https://i.redd.it/z6pffzmoo8t21.jpg

zeke
04-19-2019, 05:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/265DuY4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nYnlCTa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cepQFLZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mrtNWyE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PLHwKW6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XrsZNg6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Uo5qDU9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ETOp15j.jpg

Killer93
04-19-2019, 05:36 PM
Lowry’s :smilielol5:

Volcanologist
04-19-2019, 05:45 PM
Siakam��

Bleedsblue&white
04-19-2019, 05:46 PM
Lowry looks like he's going to teach me some Spanish on Sesame Street.

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 05:50 PM
Jeremy Lin or that Lando Calrissian look alike ftw thanks.

MyNameIsJonas
04-19-2019, 07:07 PM
All are great

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 07:34 PM
Playoff Kawhi >>

Deckie007
04-19-2019, 07:37 PM
Playoff Refs [emoji2955]


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MindzEye
04-19-2019, 07:51 PM
Playoff Refs [emoji2955]


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They sure allow a lot of contact in one painted area.

Deckie007
04-19-2019, 07:52 PM
Some poor decisions on offence by the Raps. Lot of over passing. Should be up 10+

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 08:01 PM
LOL. Kawhi on the break, and dude tries to foul him on purpose and no call.

Deckie007
04-19-2019, 08:03 PM
Yeah that was hilarious. Also Gasol is just awesome defensively

zeke
04-19-2019, 08:40 PM
ORL 11fta
TOR 4fta

F USA

leaffan2005
04-19-2019, 08:47 PM
Siakam already with 21 points in the 3rd.

What a ****ing stud. Thank you Masai.

zeke
04-19-2019, 08:52 PM
Studly P

CTheBigPicture
04-19-2019, 08:53 PM
My next Jersey will be Pascal regardless of KL resigning. He is a beast.

zeke
04-19-2019, 08:53 PM
Refs give Orlando their first lead of the game, raps respond instantly with a 16-0 run.

Championship calibre.

Preston
04-19-2019, 08:55 PM
Should win this in 5.

Deckie007
04-19-2019, 09:24 PM
Refs trying to make it six

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 09:32 PM
So uhhh....where are the Kyle Lowry shit talkers? That offensive rebound was yuuuuuge

Killer93
04-19-2019, 09:33 PM
Huge win!!!

zeke
04-19-2019, 09:34 PM
Refs tried their best (23-10 fta), but they win anyways.

MindzEye
04-19-2019, 10:15 PM
Refs tried their best (23-10 fta), but they win anyways.

Would be 3-0 with even remotely competent officiating.

zeke
04-20-2019, 10:36 AM
Total FT Attempts after 3 games:
PHI 109
BKN 90
OKC 90
LAC 87
GSW 83
SAS 77
POR 72
ORL 67
DEN 67
IND 54
BOS 53
MIL 47 (2 Games)
UTA 45 (2 Games)
HOU 42 (2 Games)
TOR 41
DET 30 (2 Games)



That's embarassing for the league.

MindzEye
04-20-2019, 10:41 AM
Tony Brothers has a massive hate on for Kawhi apparently. Every technical foul Kawhi has received in his career has been given by Tony Brothers.

MindzEye
04-21-2019, 08:10 PM
So this is what the series would look like with decent officiating eh? 9-9 in foul calls, 8 FT to 5 for the Raps.

Raps up 18 at the half.

MyNameIsJonas
04-21-2019, 08:19 PM
Pascal is also Batman. We have two Batmans

MindzEye
04-21-2019, 08:40 PM
Playoff Kawhi >>

Also, Gordon is better than I thought he was going to be. The NBA changing the way it did, when it did, was huge for his career. He looked too small as a PF and struggled as a SF before the league really hard shifted a few years ago. He's a pretty ideal modern PF though.

MindzEye
04-21-2019, 09:20 PM
So this is the first time in franchise history that they've held a 3-1 lead in a series. That's how bad a bunch of playoff chokes the Demar led Raptors were. They were regularly facing teams that were way inferior in the regular season, and never held a 3-1 lead against any of them.

MindzEye
04-21-2019, 09:23 PM
https://streamable.com/37vr0

It takes a special level of officiating to draw that kind of reaction.

zeke
04-22-2019, 12:20 PM
This team is awesome.

Matrim
04-23-2019, 08:53 PM
Raps finishing up the Magic pretty easily. Next series will actually be interesting to watch but they still beat the Sixers.

zeke
04-23-2019, 10:02 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/1wqZTecmacOvfDw1ch/giphy.gif

MindzEye
04-23-2019, 10:06 PM
Raps finishing up the Magic pretty easily. Next series will actually be interesting to watch but they still beat the Sixers.

Yep, they're way better than the Sixers and they look locked in now.

MyNameIsJonas
04-23-2019, 10:08 PM
Raps take 6ers in 6

MyNameIsJonas
04-23-2019, 10:09 PM
And Gasol eats Embiids lunch

Hoss
04-23-2019, 10:14 PM
yes, that is the match up I am waiting to see. Vucevic was a ghost that entire series. Gasol completely rendered him useless.
True Vuc is no Embiid, but the raps have had his number even before Gasol.

zeke
04-23-2019, 10:31 PM
We're a matchup nightmare for the 6ers, on both ends.

Hoss
04-23-2019, 10:37 PM
When is round two start?

MindzEye
04-23-2019, 10:47 PM
yes, that is the match up I am waiting to see. Vucevic was a ghost that entire series. Gasol completely rendered him useless.
True Vuc is no Embiid, but the raps have had his number even before Gasol.

There are two centres in the NBA who completely ruin Embiid's day, and we traded Embiid's 2nd favourite, for his favourite. As much as Jonas used to handle him, Gasol nephews him harder than anyone else in the league,

MyNameIsJonas
04-23-2019, 10:48 PM
He hates Horford too

HabsFan1
04-23-2019, 11:37 PM
Hope you guys are right. For whatever reason I fear them a little the trio of Harris, Butler and JJ are the guys who worry me. But I do believe if we play D like we can and lock in we can get them.

zeke
04-23-2019, 11:50 PM
Redick is a liability. He should not be a starter in this league. Only is because their bench is godawful.

Harris is just ok. Ibaka level player.

zeke
04-24-2019, 10:45 AM
https://scontent.fyto1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58057763_10161671453415029_2034661875110641664_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fyto1-1.fna&oh=368137f1ec0f2bef81796fb0b26e3dad&oe=5D2989D8

The 6ers can match the Raps' Big-3 pretty well (though kawhi's regular season defensive metrics should be taken with a grain of salt imo), but they really fall off after that.

Gasol/Green are much better pieces than Harris/Redick, and while the Raps' bench ain't great, it's way better than the 6ers. The only playable guy off their bench is Boban, but he's still unplayable aside from very specific matchups.

MindzEye
04-24-2019, 11:26 AM
1 of their big 3 is about to disappear though. Gasol is the Embiid whisperer.

zeke
04-24-2019, 01:28 PM
and here's how they did in Round 1:

https://scontent.fyto1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57703242_10161671915245029_6847141106434441216_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fyto1-1.fna&oh=00bf4f1a35cf866168415c5f8f38aedb&oe=5D418E53

MindzEye
04-24-2019, 01:53 PM
I pray that they force the ball 39% of the time into Embiid's hands against Gasol. Pray.

I don't think Jimmy Buckets has shit for Playoff Kawhi either. Only matchup that really concerns me is Simmons/Lowry. That's a lot of size and length for Kyle to give up in a match up man.

zeke
04-24-2019, 01:54 PM
it is but I don't think that'll be the matchup on either end.

simmons will get a steady dose of kawhi/green/siakam when he has the ball, and then they're going to need him to defend kawhi and siakam on the defensive end.

MindzEye
04-24-2019, 02:27 PM
If they do that, and use Reddick, Lowry needs to slaughter them.

HabsFan1
04-24-2019, 03:06 PM
I think you will see a mix of Pascal, Green and Kawhi on Simmons. My feeling is Kyle will be guarding JJ.

zeke
04-24-2019, 03:28 PM
If they do that, and use Reddick, Lowry needs to slaughter them.

Yeah problem is they gotta hide jj somewhere. I guess they do hide him on green but that leaves Harris trying to guard siakam/Kawhi.

zeke
04-25-2019, 01:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=269&v=cTU8iRdwfGc

MyNameIsJonas
04-25-2019, 05:44 PM
Jake Puddle

MindzEye
04-26-2019, 01:10 PM
A preview of the Raps-Sixers series

https://i.redd.it/8kpgf66z0mu21.jpg

worm
04-26-2019, 03:20 PM
wow

that is just awesome

zeke
04-27-2019, 02:02 PM
especially in the nba, Toronto's home city advantage is very real: https://streamable.com/07jex

zeke
04-27-2019, 03:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=269&v=cTU8iRdwfGc

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1121612092098928640

GEEMAN
04-27-2019, 04:12 PM
A preview of the Raps-Sixers series

https://i.redd.it/8kpgf66z0mu21.jpg

We are going to bitch slap the sixers in 4 or 5

HabsFan1
04-27-2019, 08:32 PM
Kawhi is a beast!

Love Gasol on Joel

Harris is getting some nice shots. But if we can shut down Simmons, Butler and Embid we should be good.

Gotta clean up on the rebounds

Matrim
04-27-2019, 09:40 PM
Kawhi has just been on another level this game.

Hoss
04-27-2019, 09:50 PM
He literally used the regular season to just get better and better and better.....you can see how he now has complete control of his body.




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MyNameIsJonas
04-27-2019, 09:59 PM
Eric Moreland with last touch in game 1, as you were.

Volcanologist
04-27-2019, 10:00 PM
That was impressive. Looked in control the whole game.

MyNameIsJonas
04-27-2019, 10:00 PM
Vladdy 3 and 0in toronto games he attends or plays

MindzEye
04-27-2019, 11:09 PM
This is what Demar died for.


Worth it.

MindzEye
04-27-2019, 11:16 PM
A review of game 1:

https://i.redd.it/8kpgf66z0mu21.jpg

Hoss
04-27-2019, 11:24 PM
This is what Demar died for.


Worth it.

Spurs down by 13 at the half in game 7.

Such a difference between DD and kawhi.


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MindzEye
04-27-2019, 11:49 PM
Spurs down by 13 at the half in game 7.

Such a difference between DD and kawhi.


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Demar shooting 3 of 12

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
04-27-2019, 11:53 PM
Demar shooting 3 of 12

Clutch

MindzEye
04-27-2019, 11:55 PM
If tonight doesn't completely underline why the trade was made, I don't know what else could. On the same night that Kawhi shook down a bunch of all star level Sixers for their lunch money, Demar is is shooting his team out of the playoffs in a game 7 choke job.

HabsFan1
04-28-2019, 12:04 AM
I really really hope he stays.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 12:09 AM
If he leaves, it's to be close to his kids.

But yeah, I hope he stays and moves the family to Toronto for a couple of years.

zeke
04-28-2019, 11:41 AM
This team is so ****ing good.

Jeremy
04-28-2019, 12:50 PM
Leonard/Siakam = easily one of the best one-two punches in the NBA.

Jeremy
04-28-2019, 01:07 PM
Btw, Spicy P just started playing basketball 7 years ago. He’ll probably keep getting better.

leaffan2005
04-28-2019, 04:45 PM
Leonard/Siakam = easily one of the best one-two punches in the NBA.

Both are very long and can guard any position. Adding those two and Green to the starting lineup makes us a defensive nightmare for almost any team.

LeafOfFaith
04-28-2019, 05:09 PM
I’ve never seen a guy so in control as Kawhi on the Raps. Vince dominated but it was always like I’m gonna put this up and hope it goes in, while Kawhi is just like I’m gonna put this up and know it’s going in. Such confidence to go along with such skill, and it’s such a basic, straightforward, quiet domination. Gives me confidence just watching him, so can only imagine the impact on the other players.

Siakam too. Just an unbelievable overall game. He has zero flaws in his game and can do everything.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 05:12 PM
As good as they are, Gasol might be the best defender on the team. Watching him drag his big ass around and be in the right position to make the right play 95% of the time is amazing. Timmy and I were talking about it last night, he's the old guy at the Y who "looks" terrible but never leaves the court because his team never loses.

LeafOfFaith
04-28-2019, 05:15 PM
They’re amazing. It’s such a treat to watch this team.

The only thing that compares with this feeling is the WS Jays teams, where I fully expected them to win every game.

So ****ing good, especially after the Leafs disappointment.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 05:20 PM
The year before the knee injuries started, Vince was ridiculous, a legitimate top 10 player in the league. But Kawhi is better than Vince was at his best. This is probably something like what Vince would have looked like, overall impact wise, had he put the work in early in his career and had more of that mamba mindset. A guy who only cared about winning, and not making his mum happy seeing him at graduation, etc.

Volcanologist
04-28-2019, 05:35 PM
Feels good to have a legit "referred to by first name" grade superstar.

CTheBigPicture
04-28-2019, 06:05 PM
Can't stop watching this play:

https://cdn-b-east.streamable.com/video/mp4/ojfzp.mp4?token=FO_WXwPMFZNRABW3BkjRgg&expires=1556495700

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5cc62400545bc/KL%20against%2076ers.mp4

GEEMAN
04-28-2019, 07:16 PM
As good as they are, Gasol might be the best defender on the team. Watching him drag his big ass around and be in the right position to make the right play 95% of the time is amazing. Timmy and I were talking about it last night, he's the old guy at the Y who "looks" terrible but never leaves the court because his team never loses.

Now we see why Gasol was picked up . Luv JV but he doesnt have the IQ or feel of the game like MG.

He will crush Emiid and did a solid job on Vuch in the other series.

My buddies though we got robbed , he is exactly what we needed in the playoffs .

A parade in June is not far fetched

LeafOfFaith
04-28-2019, 07:37 PM
There’s a lot to do before that, including beat GS, which looks similarly awesome.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 07:44 PM
Boston humped the Bucks in Milwaukee this afternoon btw. It's only one game, but given that Milwaukee only has George Hill for someone with legit playoff experience, if Boston puts them in an ugly situation, I'm wondering how they react. The lack of experience could lead to them folding.

If game 1 was indicative of how our series is going to go, we may actually end up facing Boston instead of Milwaukee.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 07:55 PM
The quick bit of research I did looking up playoff experience got me thinking about how far our program has come in that regard

Kawhi: 93 games, 2 finals appearances, 1 finals MVP, 1 ring
Gasol: 65 games, 3 trips of the 2nd round. Never got out of the 2nd round in that meat grinder of a conference.
Lowry: 68 games. I know our playoff experience is widely considered to be a failure, but we've been a playoff fixture for a long time now. 4 trips to the 2nd round and an ECF is legit experience. His overall performance hasn't been bad either. Not all star worth but "veteran PG" worthy absolutely
Danny: 106 games, 1 ring. 2 finals appearances, another WCF appearance a couple second round exits
Serge: 115 games, 1 finals appearance, a bag of WCF appearances
Pascal: 18 games...not bad for a 24 yr old who really only started getting minutes last year
FVV: 19 games...same really. This shit isn't new to him anymore
Norm: 39 games with an ECF trip as a rookie

Contrast that with Milwaukee. The only guy in their rotation with more playoff experience than Norm, is George Hill.

HabsFan1
04-28-2019, 09:07 PM
Boston-Bucks I hope is a 7 game knock down drag it out series.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 09:15 PM
Boston-Bucks I hope is a 7 game knock down drag it out series.

and I could definitely see the Sixers buckle and fold in 4 or 5

Those two going 7 would be wonderful with Boston sneaking through with a game 7 upset win.

JackBurton
04-28-2019, 09:55 PM
I'm REALLY liking the Raps' chances.

Killer93
04-28-2019, 10:08 PM
Fully expect them in the finals

Jeremy
04-28-2019, 10:47 PM
I know we all wanted the Leafs to still be playing, but one good consequence of them being out is we can enjoy this Raps team a lot more. They’ll get a lot more attention in the city/country too.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 11:05 PM
I'm REALLY liking the Raps' chances.

Golden State is going to be a mother****er though if we make the finals. They're in legit conversation as a top 5 dynasty of all time already, and cement it (and put themselves in the argument for #3 imo) if they win this year. The cracks are finally starting to show, with Draymond falling off a bunch, KD probably leaving in free agency, their newfound defensive issues, etc. But they're still really ****ing good.

MindzEye
04-28-2019, 11:19 PM
Fwiw:

1) 60's celtics: 8 straight, and 11 in 13 years. One of the greatest runs of dominance in the history of sports
2) Jordan's Bulls: Likely win 8 straight if Jordan's old man wasn't a degenerate gambler and happened to like baseball, maybe more if Mike didn't get sick of winning in his mid 30's
3) Showtime Lakers: 5 titles in 9 years, 8 finals appearances in 10.
4) Shaq/Kobe Lakers: Three peats are really, really hard.
5) GSW: 3 titles in 4 years is something even SAS never did (3 in 5 was their best run). Bad boy Piston's only won twice, ditto for the Dream Rockets, and the Heatles. Larry's Celtic won 3 times in 6 years. I don't see anyone else who would belong here.

zeke
04-28-2019, 11:34 PM
Just beautiful...


https://youtu.be/d6SXpvB8xTU

MindzEye
04-29-2019, 12:51 AM
r/nba is ruthless

A Horford family picture

https://i.imgur.com/McJBFjk.jpg

zeke
04-29-2019, 01:27 AM
https://preview.redd.it/ta2ysr530xu21.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&16fb1a73

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 09:12 AM
https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/1122840434273914880

zeke
04-29-2019, 01:31 PM
https://imgur.com/r/nba/iYaRE2B

Hoss
04-29-2019, 04:03 PM
OH Demar..... and Embiid.

But this is also why you can't win with a guy like Russel Westbrook. I know that there are some of you basketball guys out there who love to throw stats out etc to tell others how good a certain player actually is. But what I'm talking about is winners.
Westbrook is cut from the same cloth as Melo.... they can put up amazing numbers, but will forever be losers.

Killer93
04-29-2019, 05:37 PM
Man watching Kawhi and Siakam is an absolute treat. This team could really go all the way, exciting given how shitty the Leafs season turned out. I was never a believer of the Demar days, really hope we get Kawhi re-signed

Bleedsblue&white
04-29-2019, 05:47 PM
This shitty spring isn't helping.
Summer and Carabana, that's what he needs

MindzEye
04-29-2019, 06:18 PM
OH Demar..... and Embiid.

But this is also why you can't win with a guy like Russel Westbrook. I know that there are some of you basketball guys out there who love to throw stats out etc to tell others how good a certain player actually is. But what I'm talking about is winners.
Westbrook is cut from the same cloth as Melo.... they can put up amazing numbers, but will forever be losers.

Eh...Westbrook's biggest knock is his shooting. He's built for 2005's NBA, not 2020's. He's talked a lot about that over the last few weeks and has guaranteed that his jumper will improve significantly next year. I wouldn't put it past him, he's probably the hardest working cat in the show.

I disagree regarding WB v Melo. Westbrook was running in the the Heatles away from having a chip already.

zeke
04-29-2019, 06:52 PM
the best advanced stats we have (RAPM/RPM) actually have done a pretty good job of seeing through Westbrook's stat-stuffing box score lines. they had him as borderline top-10 at his peak, but all the way down in the 40s this year.

zeke
04-29-2019, 06:58 PM
The League's last two-minute report on the warriors-rockets game says there were three calls misses in favor of the warriors in those last 2 minutes, including one that would have fouled Steph out.

MindzEye
04-29-2019, 07:25 PM
the best advanced stats we have (RAPM/RPM) actually have done a pretty good job of seeing through Westbrook's stat-stuffing box score lines. they had him as borderline top-10 at his peak, but all the way down in the 40s this year.

Yeah because hes a mediocre shooter in a league where shooting is life.

Borderline top 10 is a hell of a player

TimHorton
04-29-2019, 08:34 PM
Is Serge drunk?

Killer93
04-29-2019, 08:49 PM
We got this, they will bounce back

MindzEye
04-29-2019, 09:41 PM
Philly is just going to let the raps back in the game like this?

Remember that in playoff history, teams that go up 2-0 win 94% of series

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 09:59 PM
Just got in but this game looks fugly

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 10:00 PM
The League's last two-minute report on the warriors-rockets game says there were three calls misses in favor of the warriors in those last 2 minutes, including one that would have fouled Steph out.

exactly how the NBA likes it

TimHorton
04-29-2019, 10:00 PM
Nurse having a Babcock of a game

MindzEye
04-29-2019, 10:04 PM
Wow, inept shooting by the Raptors

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 10:04 PM
this reminds of game 1 vs Orlando

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 10:12 PM
so many missed open shots

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 10:15 PM
When your second best shooter is at 35%....you're probably gonna lose

Bleedsblue&white
04-29-2019, 10:16 PM
Nurse having a Babcock of a game

He's not shooting.

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 10:18 PM
wtf are you doing Spicy P?

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 10:19 PM
Kawai man

Deckie007
04-29-2019, 10:30 PM
Danny Green channeling his inner Patrick Patterson

CH1
04-29-2019, 10:33 PM
Wow, inept shooting by the Raptors

fugly

MindzEye
04-29-2019, 10:34 PM
Absolutely shambolic 3pt shooting.

Gasol - 1/4
Kawhi - 3/10
Green - 1/6
Lowry - was 0/4 on the game before the late push that didn't need to be a late push if we would have just hit open shots
Ibaka - 0/1
FVV- 0/1
Pascal - 2/7

Throw into that, Philly with a +17 in the rebounding category and you're going to lose. Shouldn't have been as close as it was, Philly was dying to give that game back.

HabsFan1
04-29-2019, 11:35 PM
Rebounding and bench play are going to be big factors.

Wayward DP
04-30-2019, 07:15 AM
Philly really seemed determined to not close that one out, but we just couldn't buy any shots when we needed them. Wasted opportunity.

Preston
04-30-2019, 07:20 AM
Felt a lot like those games when the raps beat LeBron. The rest of his team shit the bed and a perfect storm was required to get the w. This time kawhi is LeBron and the raps are on the other side of it. I like this side better.

JackBurton
04-30-2019, 10:52 PM
Steph Curry has a horrible looking hand injury.

MindzEye
05-01-2019, 01:43 AM
Yep, but non shooting hand and he returned after getting the dislocated finger popped back in.

worm
05-01-2019, 11:44 AM
too many days between games

go NHL

MindzEye
05-01-2019, 03:25 PM
But no Brad Marchand

NBA>

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 04:14 PM
https://i.redd.it/sgs2b0h1rsv21.jpg

leaffan2005
05-02-2019, 08:52 PM
I can't wait until Kyle Lowry is no longer a Raptor.

Just an epic playoff choke job artist. He sucks, full stop.

fergy57
05-02-2019, 09:01 PM
Fred needs to climb out of that shooting black hole he's been living in.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 09:03 PM
I can't wait until Kyle Lowry is no longer a Raptor.

Just an epic playoff choke job artist. He sucks, full stop.

You'll get your wish if we don't get past Philly. Almost zero chance Kawhi stays if that happens, and it will be tear down time.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 09:05 PM
Would also be nice if our bench could stop sucking dick.

Killer93
05-02-2019, 09:05 PM
Lowry and FVV not getting it done

Preston
05-02-2019, 09:07 PM
You'll get your wish if we don't get past Philly. Almost zero chance Kawhi stays if that happens, and it will be tear down time.

Should be fun for 2005 to watch horrible non playoff teams for the near future.


OR we can enjoy what is likely the best raptor team we'll ever see.

fergy57
05-02-2019, 09:11 PM
Man Simmons is a ****.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 09:14 PM
Getting out rebounded 26-15

That's just effort, plain and simple.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 09:15 PM
Philly shooting 64% from outside.

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 09:26 PM
Effort is the main issue I see. Rebounding is a disaster.

Refs have sucked but canít blame them for all.

Bench sucks ass majorly. Iíd give Miller a shot or something to see if you can get a few points.

This is why I feared Philly a little. They have length that seems to give us issues.

wiseguy1
05-02-2019, 09:30 PM
Does this team miss Anunoby or what is it? I'm scared , the end is near

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 09:52 PM
Man these refs.

But **** boys tighten up the d. And show some hustle out there

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 09:59 PM
Too soft. And too afraid of embiid shot blocking

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:00 PM
Don't like Nurse's sub pattern here either. Embiid back in the game, right in time to sit Gasol.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:00 PM
We don't deserve Kawhi

Killer93
05-02-2019, 10:03 PM
Kawhi > T1000

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:07 PM
We don't deserve this game at all, but if they show up for one ****ing quarter they can steal it. Losing it would make the game 2 effort even more shameful, Philly was actively trying to give that one away. Losing like this when up 2-0, meh.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:12 PM
Everyone on this team not named Kawhi is a baby back bitch. Including Siakam. Dude isn't ready for the pressure yet.

Choke artists, the lot of them.

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 10:12 PM
Raps are looking lost and finished I hate to say it. Itís early in series still but if nobody else can step up a little they are screwed.

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 10:13 PM
Everyone on this team not named Kawhi is a baby back bitch. Including Siakam. Dude isn't ready for the pressure yet.

Choke artists, the lot of them.

Yup. I see Gasols value. But I miss Jonas this game to be honest.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:13 PM
and Nurse's decision to take Kawhi out was a bad one.

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 10:14 PM
Holy shit there was ZERO ball on that block

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 10:15 PM
This game is done. Go to the bench for the rest of it.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:15 PM
What a horrific joke of a team.

Was nice watching Kawhi while we had the opportunity.

Killer93
05-02-2019, 10:17 PM
Raps caught the Leafs flu

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:21 PM
Raps caught the Leafs flu

In fairness, the Raptors had it first. What I'm choked about is that Green caught it in game 2 and Gasol caught it tonight.

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 10:23 PM
Lowry is a -22, Pascal a -18, Gasol a -20, Norm a -15

3 of the 4 have been raised in the tradition of embarrassing Raptors playoff efforts, the other one doesn't have the same excuse.

leaffan2005
05-02-2019, 10:24 PM
Toronto sports can't have nice things.

I've come to terms with it.

HabsFan1
05-02-2019, 10:28 PM
Embarrassing.

CH1
05-02-2019, 10:52 PM
Hard to swallow back to back monstrosities

Leafin'
05-02-2019, 11:17 PM
That was ugly.

Still not over

MindzEye
05-02-2019, 11:20 PM
No, not over. But that's two pretty ****ing dreadful, choke artist performances in a row. If we don't see the good Raptors for the rest of this series, it's over, their margin for error has now been spent.

zeke
05-02-2019, 11:22 PM
i'm pretty shook.

next game is everything.

HabsFan1
05-03-2019, 11:36 AM
How they respond will show what they truly are.

MindzEye
05-03-2019, 11:52 AM
How they respond will show what they truly are.

Yeah, agreed. You win game 4 and despite two shit show efforts in a row, you're in a best of 3 with home court and the best player in the series doing big things.

If they go out on their shields putting up a legit fight and Philly just beats them, I can live with that. But going out with a ****ing whimper should be completely unacceptable and Masai needs to shred the roster from top to bottom in the off season. If we're forced into a rebuild, so be it, but pick the 2-3 players who will be here at the end of it and dummy the rest. Norm, FVV, Ibaka, Kyle, etc. Basically everyone who has playoff flopped multiple seasons in a row, there's no point keeping them.

GEEMAN
05-03-2019, 12:12 PM
Yeah, agreed. You win game 4 and despite two shit show efforts in a row, you're in a best of 3 with home court and the best player in the series doing big things.

If they go out on their shields putting up a legit fight and Philly just beats them, I can live with that. But going out with a ****ing whimper should be completely unacceptable and Masai needs to shred the roster from top to bottom in the off season. If we're forced into a rebuild, so be it, but pick the 2-3 players who will be here at the end of it and dummy the rest. Norm, FVV, Ibaka, Kyle, etc. Basically everyone who has playoff flopped multiple seasons in a row, there's no point keeping them.

We have numerous expiring contracts to move that have significant value in the summer .

All hinges on what Jesus decides to do with us . Plus who knows if Masai sticks around as well .

If Kawai leaves , gut the team and start your base with OG , Spicy P and move on .

If he stays you start shredding in stages especially the deadline when teams are looking for veteran expiring contracts .

Wayward DP
05-03-2019, 12:54 PM
that was painful to watch. especially the parts when it was Kawhi dominating and four spectators.

Philly can be had, but we're gonna have to step up our game. Offensively we are just a total mess right now.

MindzEye
05-03-2019, 12:57 PM
Masai is going to stay. There's not a whole lot of chance he's going to trade in the full autonomy and stability he has in Toronto, which is very much a world class organization now, for the utter shit show they've got going on in Laker Land.

It feels like Masai has been here forever, but remember that this was never really *his* team. He inherited a bunch of players and just rode it. We were in a position as a franchise where we needed to be made legitimate. Become a perennial play off team, make some noise, become a legitimate B level destination for NBA players, etc.

If we have to tear it down, Masai will be the architect of the rebuild and I doubt he's going to leave for any situation around the league.

CaptainBolduke
05-03-2019, 02:28 PM
Masai is going to stay. There's not a whole lot of chance he's going to trade in the full autonomy and stability he has in Toronto, which is very much a world class organization now, for the utter shit show they've got going on in Laker Land.

It feels like Masai has been here forever, but remember that this was never really *his* team. He inherited a bunch of players and just rode it. We were in a position as a franchise where we needed to be made legitimate. Become a perennial play off team, make some noise, become a legitimate B level destination for NBA players, etc.

If we have to tear it down, Masai will be the architect of the rebuild and I doubt he's going to leave for any situation around the league.

Masai is the anti-Shapiro. He inherited a pretty good product that needed tweaking, and did just that. He didn't care that it wasn't him that brought in certain players - his ego didn't get in the way in order to create "his team".

He used what he had and made it better. I respect him for that.

MindzEye
05-03-2019, 03:05 PM
Yep, he had no reason to show any allegiance to what was left for him to work with. Instead of embarking on a 3-5 year rebuild immediately, he built around what he had, put together a good team then took a ballsy shot at making it a great team when the good team just wasn't working out.

He also appears to have a good eye for talent, I've got a ton of faith in his ability to rebuild here if it comes to that.

A quick run down his work as a GM:

- His first big move as a GM was the Carmelo trade: It was a massive 3 way trade but it basically turned into Melo, Balkman (out of the league a year and 14 games later), 34 year old Chauncey right before his production fell off of a cliff with retirement at the bottom, Anthony Carter, Sheldon Williams (out of the league 2 yrs later), 2016 1st (which ironically enough turned into Jakob Poetl), 2015 2nd rounder (Richaun Holmes, a decent enough rotation body was later selected) for Wilson Chandler, Galinari, Mozgov, Ray Felton, and picks that turned into Dario Saric,& Jamal Murray. It cleared a ton of cap space and brought a pile of young assets into the organization, all to get rid of a guy who didn't want to be there, that the league was moving away from anyway in style of play

- The selected Kenneth Farried 22nd overall, huge value at that slot

- Then flipped Ray Felton and stuff for Andre Miller and stuff. Turned a guy who didn't want to be there into the good veteran PG.

- Turned a 2nd into two good rotation players, Rudy Fernandez and Brewer.

- Traded Nene when he was breaking down (and expensive) for 24 yr old talented head case Javale McGee who is a bit of an analytics darling defensively and provided good value for the Nuggets.

- Evan Fournier at 20th overall

Then his work as a Raptor that we're all familiar with. Shit, if we just look at his overall draft history

2011 - Faried (22nd)
2012 - Fournier (20th), Quincy Miller (38th), Turkyalamz (50th)
2013 - Masai inherited no picks
2014 - Caboclo (20th) Daniels & Thames in the 2nd round
2015 - Delon Wright (20th)
2016 - Poetl (9th), Siakam (27th)
2017 - OG (23rd)
2018 - No picks

So the guy has run 6 draft tables now, has never drafted higher than 9 and only picked in the top 19 once, and has walked away with

C - Poetl
PF - Siakam, Faried
SF - OG
SG - Fournier
PG - Delon

That's pretty ****ing good. I hope we don't have to rebuild, I hope Kawhi stays and we continue trying to build a championship team here. But if we tank, as long as we do it right and strip shit down to the bones, get high level talent through the top 5 in the draft and build around that and Pascal, I don't think there are a lot of executives I'd rather have running it all than Masai.

GEEMAN
05-03-2019, 03:17 PM
Masai was close to ripping this team apart and move Kyle to the Knicks when he took over .

Team turned a corner and kept it intact and added .

NBA is in a league of its own .....you can rip it up or move money around very easily .

One star turns your team around immediately .

In baseball you can have Mike Trout and 2 other studs and suck wind for a decade .

I respect what Masai has done but you can get more done in the NBA in a quick fashion compared to other sports .

CaptainBolduke
05-03-2019, 04:37 PM
I think you're missing the point, but whatever. Not important.

HabsFan1
05-04-2019, 12:54 PM
Pascal is doubtful for tomorrowís game. Not good.

Preston
05-04-2019, 12:58 PM
I mean... They're heavy, heavy underdogs now. Even outside of the choke stuff. The team without Pascal is a hell of a lot worse.

Too bad.

Volcanologist
05-04-2019, 01:05 PM
things change on a dime. week ago we thought the Raps were finals bound.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
05-04-2019, 02:07 PM
This just sucks. I cannot believe this.

Jeremy
05-04-2019, 02:24 PM
That’s rough news. Hopefully some of the others step up and we grind out a win.

LeafOfFaith
05-04-2019, 02:50 PM
He’s gonna play. Come on, sore. Please.

LeafOfFaith
05-04-2019, 02:51 PM
Heís gonna play. Come on, sore. Please.

HabsFan1
05-04-2019, 11:51 PM
I have always been worried partly about the other three on the top in the east. I didnít think either of these teams would be a cake walk. Too much talent to lay down.

axlsalinger
05-05-2019, 04:29 AM
Every team faces some kind of adversity on a long playoff run, and the Sixers are a real good team. Hopefully the boys can step up on Sunday, though not having Siakam would really suck. I guess even if he does try to play he might not be that effective. It's time for some of the other guys to contribute.

axlsalinger
05-05-2019, 03:56 PM
So far so good, Siakam in.

TimHorton
05-05-2019, 04:03 PM
Raps still getting lost on rotations way too easily

TimHorton
05-05-2019, 04:36 PM
Game would be over if the raps could knock down open looks

zeke
05-05-2019, 04:48 PM
They showed up. Only reason it's close is because Siakam is clearly injured.

And finally Nurse shortens his bench. Minutes pace:

Kawhi 42
Lowry 40
Green 37
Gasol 35
Ibaka 31
Siakam 29

McCaw 10
Fred 8
Norm 8

Preston
05-05-2019, 05:02 PM
Can't stand all of this complaining. Just ****ing play.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 05:19 PM
Fred has played 4 minutes today and is a -8

Two playoffs in a row that he horrendously choked. He had the shoulder injury to blame last year, this year not so much.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 05:20 PM
Our bench getting out played in this series by Philly's is unforgivable. Their bench is turrible.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 05:22 PM
We don't deserve Kawhi

Deckie007
05-05-2019, 05:23 PM
Our bench sucks. Is anyone actually gonna help Kawai?

Preston
05-05-2019, 05:24 PM
We don't deserve Kawhi

We don't deserve ibaka either. It all balances out right?

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 05:25 PM
Serge should be slapped every time he takes that wing 3. He's horrific at them.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 05:27 PM
Our bench sucks. Is anyone actually gonna help Kawai?

I'm not busy the rest of the afternoon and I can knock down the open 3 at a decent rate.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 05:28 PM
Kawhi is shooting 69% with 11 rebounds and we're tied.

MyNameIsJonas
05-05-2019, 05:50 PM
Gasol and Lowry have been fine. Everyone else trash. Joel is still feating on Ibakas soul

CH1
05-05-2019, 05:52 PM
I'm not busy the rest of the afternoon and I can knock down the open 3 at a decent rate.

Is there anything in sports worse than watching your team consistently miss wide open 3s?

Deckie007
05-05-2019, 05:56 PM
Neither team seems interested in this game

zeke
05-05-2019, 05:56 PM
Man this is crazy tight.

Biggest 4 minutes in franchise history right here. If we lose, Kawhi 100% gone.

zeke
05-05-2019, 05:57 PM
What's with the anger at Ibaka? He's been great.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 06:05 PM
So this is what having a hero feels like?

axlsalinger
05-05-2019, 06:05 PM
Damn, that 3 by Kawhi was f*cking YUGE.

zeke
05-05-2019, 06:07 PM
The big lineup with gasol/Ibaka is a breakthrough in this series after sucking every time we tried it before.

zeke
05-05-2019, 06:12 PM
Fred 7
McCaw 5
Norm 4


Rookie coach finally realizes there's zero room to **** around in the playoffs.

zeke
05-05-2019, 06:15 PM
Huge manly win right there.

Just when they looked dead and buried.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 06:29 PM
The big lineup with gasol/Ibaka is a breakthrough in this series after sucking every time we tried it before.

Ibaka is mobile enough to defend Harris, which is big for us. Harris struggled with the 3 point shot today and Serge had a bunch of good contests on him.

zeke
05-05-2019, 06:33 PM
Ibaka is mobile enough to defend Harris, which is big for us. Harris struggled with the 3 point shot today and Serge had a bunch of good contests on him.

And Gasol and Ibaka can both play inside and outside on offense - actually Gasol plays outside more and it lets Ibaka stay inside the 3pt line.

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 06:36 PM
A few thoughts in general

- We don't need Kyle Lowry to raise his ceiling to win this series, but we absolutely need him to raise his floor. He can't have any more of those 0'fer type performances.

- Just one more body from the bench playing just average would help huge. FVV preferably. He's been so bad. But with Philly getting something resembling help from Ennis and Scott, we could really use another guy to contribute something.

- Gasol went back to his ownership of Embiid today. Nurse needs to match his sub pattern with Gasol to Brown's sub pattern with Embiid for the rest of the series. Can't let him get going and confident against Serge and then expect Gasol to come in and put out the fire.

- I wish we had a JJ Reddick. Not in our starting lineup, but a guy who can shoot on the move like that. I love me some Danny Green but he's either gotta be planted, or moving forward into his shot. Reddick is just an assassin from everywhere, moving in every direction with or without the ball.

zeke
05-05-2019, 06:55 PM
Ah F the bench. Warriors never play their bench.

Killer93
05-05-2019, 07:11 PM
BIG win! Such a treat to watch Kawhi

MindzEye
05-05-2019, 07:24 PM
Ah F the bench. Warriors never play their bench.

Their starters are better than ours, and I honestly don't know if Gasol can play 35 minutes anymore. We need contributions from the bench.