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MyNameIsJonas
07-08-2015, 10:45 PM
Will he though? Cube is a business man and knows that a deal isn't a deal until it's signed. He might think less of Jordan the person and whomever his agent is for future dealings, but I don't see Cuban going nuts in public over it.

Cuban was apparently driving around Houston texting Jordan's relatives for his address.

he isn't taking this in a sane manner.

Jordan didnt even have the balls to tell him he was leaving, he barracaded himself in his home with the coach.

CTheBigPicture
07-08-2015, 10:48 PM
What a real life drama haha would have loved to see a live video of Cuban driving around

axlsalinger
07-08-2015, 10:48 PM
He may be rappelling on the side of DeAndre's house as we speak.

MyNameIsJonas
07-08-2015, 10:49 PM
He may be rappelling on the side of DeAndre's house as we speak.

He's a tech guy, i say hacking into his PS4

drewser
07-08-2015, 11:33 PM
LScola4

We the north...

Here I come

MindzEye
07-08-2015, 11:34 PM
Damn....we're not going to be a depth wasteland at the 4-5 again are we ?

CTheBigPicture
07-08-2015, 11:35 PM
LScola4

We the north...

Here I come
Is it me or we've been expecting this for a few years?

HabsFan1
07-08-2015, 11:36 PM
Scola is most certainly serviceable

Metalleaf
07-08-2015, 11:39 PM
Well he's not Boozer.

HabsFan1
07-08-2015, 11:42 PM
Hoping he was cheaper than boozer

Metalleaf
07-08-2015, 11:52 PM
Media guys seem to like his PER last few years. I imagine he's only a backup PF anyhow.

drewser
07-08-2015, 11:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJcjseTWcAAz8YY.jpg

gilmour93forever
07-08-2015, 11:58 PM
Just make Oak an assistant coach in charge of thuggery

Oak was around a lot last year. Saw him at like 3 or 4 games.

HabsFan1
07-09-2015, 12:12 AM
Scola is 1 year 3 million bucks

Metalleaf
07-09-2015, 12:20 AM
Can't argue with that.

HabsFan1
07-09-2015, 12:23 AM
3830

MyNameIsJonas
07-09-2015, 12:32 AM
PPat-Scola
Val-Biaymbo

I really hope we didnt cheap out on the rotate a big in order to keep the likes of Ross and some picks.

Really hoping theres one more guy and Scola is in a Hayes like role

HabsFan1
07-09-2015, 12:35 AM
I'm hoping theres another scorer coming to help off the bench.

MyNameIsJonas
07-09-2015, 12:40 AM
I'm hoping theres another scorer coming to help off the bench.

we need a legit starting PF first.

HabsFan1
07-09-2015, 12:55 AM
Don't see that coming tho. I think they are content with PP

MyNameIsJonas
07-09-2015, 01:11 AM
I worry they saw GS win small, and are trying to emulate that, without having near the talent to do so.

A makeshift Val, PP, Scola, Biyambo front court displeases me if so.

HabsFan1
07-09-2015, 01:12 AM
Yeah me as well. I think we have more holes this year than last.

Leafin'
07-09-2015, 01:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKBJdAaObNo

He looks pretty good to me for the money.

CTheBigPicture
07-09-2015, 08:16 AM
@theAnjo: "30 For 30: The Cuban Miss-out Crisis"

Jeremy
07-09-2015, 10:33 AM
Raps waive Luke Ridnour.

mbow30
07-09-2015, 10:49 AM
I have a feeling were going to see biyombo and val out together quite a bit

Biyombo ability to disrupt shots should let val stay close to the basket too. Won't need to play as high (provided casey adjusts)

TimHorton
07-09-2015, 11:54 AM
(provided casey adjusts)

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/04/S5E1-Tyrion-vomit.gif

MyNameIsJonas
07-09-2015, 12:06 PM
Honestly, we lost the chuckers, which is a good thing, and added nice defensive pieces in Joseph and Carroll, but i have zero faith in Casey to manage THIS frontcourt.

I half expect him to have PPat and Scola in going small, or Ross at the 3, Carroll at the 4 and a lost (INSERT BIG HERE) at the 5.

mbow30
07-09-2015, 12:25 PM
My concern is he boosts bb''s mins at vals expense because bb can defend the way casey tried to force val to. This teams best shot at building a contender is through its c.

MindzEye
07-09-2015, 01:03 PM
Casey has no idea how to manage Val. Proved it more than adequately this season. With a bigger, beefier front court available this season, if he's still got us chasing shitty shooting PG's over top of high screens instead of giving up the 24 footer and letting the goons out rebound the opposition every night, Casey deserves to be fired....out of a ****ing cannon, into the Sun.

TimHorton
07-09-2015, 05:56 PM
As someone who is always pro-anger I love guys like this!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=223&v=gx9bCJBmqYY

axlsalinger
07-10-2015, 02:21 PM
Mark Cuban's take on DeAndreGate:

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/13232756/dallas-mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-details-side-events-regarding-deandre-jordan-decision

drewser
07-10-2015, 06:42 PM
Raps summer league game vs Sacramento on NBATV right now

MindzEye
07-10-2015, 07:02 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Bruno starts to establish himself as a rotation player this season. He won't just be a garbage minutes guy anymore.

drewser
07-10-2015, 07:03 PM
I think you're right...but with Raptors 905

Aberdeen
07-10-2015, 09:01 PM
Pretty good read on Bruno here

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/raptors-ready-to-double-down-on-bruno-caboclo/

I think we should expect to see a very different player this year. I like the bit where Landry Fields talks about how when Bruno is on he's basically unguardable.

Metalleaf
07-11-2015, 09:24 PM
@ESPNSteinLine: ESPN sources say Sacramento Kings are in advanced discussions with Andrea Bargnani and closing in on signing the former Knick

Jeremy
07-12-2015, 07:26 PM
Bargs a Net:

http://www.tsn.ca/nets-bargnani-agree-to-deal-1.330388

Leafin'
07-20-2015, 01:16 PM
The Houston Rockets have reached agreement with the Denver Nuggets on a trade for Ty Lawson.

Houston will send Kostas Papanikolaou, Pablo Prigioni, Joey Dorsey, Nick Johnson and a lottery-protected 2016 first-round draft pick to Denver.

The Nuggets will send a 2017 second-round pick to Houston along with Lawson.

After Lawson's second DUI arrest in six months, market interest for him had decreased significantly.

Our knicks/nuggets pick just got a little bit better.

Metalleaf
07-20-2015, 01:19 PM
Raptors signed Michale Kyser. Was on the summer league team. Probably a D-League guy.

drewser
07-24-2015, 05:08 PM
Josh Smith when asked about his salary dropping to $6.9m this season:


“At the end of the day, you know, I do have a family,” he said. “So it is going to be a little harder on me this year. But I’m going to push through it, you know.”

LeafOfFaith
07-24-2015, 06:02 PM
Hope he pulls through. Poor guy.

JackBurton
07-25-2015, 12:32 AM
Josh Smith when asked about his salary dropping to $6.9m this season:

It's sad he doesn't even seem to understand that he should not say that and it will upset people.

JackBurton
07-25-2015, 12:32 AM
Hope he pulls through. Poor guy.

If only we all had problems like he does.

Montana
08-04-2015, 01:10 AM
http://mlse.digital/raptors/jerseys/img/raps-main-mobile-4.jpg

http://mlse.digital/raptors/jerseys/img/raps-main-mobile-3.jpg

http://mlse.digital/raptors/jerseys/img/raps-main-mobile-1.jpg

http://mlse.digital/raptors/jerseys/img/raps-main-mobile-2.jpg


That black and gold alternate away jersey is f*cking hot fire.

Matrim
08-04-2015, 05:21 AM
I still don't like the new logo. But I do like these jersey's. Though a little nitpick of the jersey's I have is that I think the away's should have Toronto on it instead of Raptors, but it really doesn't matter.

JaysCyYoung
08-04-2015, 08:47 AM
What's with the bizarre font that they're using? The black Raptors colouring on the white home jersey also looks bizarre (it should be in red) and the black and gold jersey is seriously bad (they're not the team's colours). Can't say I'm a fan of those at all.

CTheBigPicture
08-04-2015, 09:07 AM
Please get black and gold branding out of this organization.

JaysCyYoung
08-04-2015, 09:12 AM
Seriously, why in God's name did they use that awful font? I'm getting comic sans images in my head here.

Metalleaf
08-04-2015, 12:50 PM
Jerseys are fine. New logo is meh.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee152/Metalleaf24/1438663690186_zps28vzoxaq.jpg

axlsalinger
08-04-2015, 12:52 PM
Agreed, logo kinda sucks but the new jerseys overall look pretty good. And I like that font.

JaysCyYoung
08-04-2015, 01:03 PM
Why did they bother changing the claw logo anyway? It was universally praised.

Wayward DP
08-04-2015, 05:52 PM
New logo looks too much like the Nets. And yeah, if it ain't broke...

HabsFan1
08-11-2015, 10:50 AM
Am I the only one hoping for Tristan to sign a one year and done deal with Cleveland?? Opening the possibility of returning to Toronto next summer!!

MindzEye
08-11-2015, 12:12 PM
I'm a bit leery of giving Tristan a market rate contract as I'm really not sure how long this market insanity is going to last (the newish luxury tax is ****ing painful, regardless of how much new money has just poured into the league), but it would be an awesome move towards "Plan W" of bringing the kid home in a few years.

Leafin'
08-17-2015, 05:21 PM
http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/report-valanciunas-close-to-extension-with-raptors/


Marc Stein
‏@ESPNSteinLine
ESPN sources say Valanciunas extension is not done but sides are in advanced discussions on four-year pact worth in excess of $60 million

At 22 years old he is the best center this franchise has ever had. Lock him up.

JackBurton
08-18-2015, 10:02 AM
I wish we could get him for longer than 4.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
08-18-2015, 10:19 AM
Does this mean Casey will start playing him in the second half now?

Aberdeen
08-20-2015, 03:01 PM
Jonas deal is official, 4-year, $64million Contract Extension

Leafin'
08-20-2015, 03:12 PM
Solid deal. 3rd year player option. Good value for both sides.

Interesting name out there as a potential starting PF is Markieff Morris. He's allegedly asked for a trade out of Phoenix. Not an ideal star name but could be an improvement over Patterson. Patt i feel is an ideal backup PF that can bring instant offense with his ability to spread the floor.

Jeremy
08-20-2015, 04:34 PM
I read the fourth year is a player option.

Leafin'
08-20-2015, 08:24 PM
I read the fourth year is a player option.

You are correct. Not sure why i wrote 3rd.

Jeremy
09-22-2015, 12:02 PM
Wolves reportedly buy out Anthony Bennett. Should we bring him in?

Aberdeen
09-22-2015, 12:10 PM
Wolves reportedly buy out Anthony Bennett. Should we bring him in?

Would that effectively make him a free agent? I'd do it for a hometown discount.

Deckie007
09-22-2015, 12:54 PM
He has to go thru waivers before he's a FA and only Portland and Philly can fit him in under the cap. Philly might be a good place for him.

MindzEye
09-22-2015, 01:03 PM
Wolves reportedly buy out Anthony Bennett. Should we bring him in?

I've gone back and forth on it over the last few days, and in the end I'd go for it. At this point he's really only a 12mpg prospect/towel waver, but all the tools are there for him to develop into a better version of Patman. If he was taken 11th overall instead of 1st overall, he would just be a tweener being groomed for a rotation role on a good team....being taken 1st overall though, ****s with peoples expectations of you.

If we look at another bust of a 1st overall pick with a Toronto background, Andrea Bargnani....as "bad" as Bennett has been so far in his NBA career, he put up a 11.4 PER as a 21 yr old last season, his 2nd in the NBA. Bargnani debuted as a 21 yr old, and put up a 12.8, followed by a 10.6 as a 22 yr old. In the end, he turned into a heavily flawed, but decent professional (18.7 win shares over his career)...so right now we're looking at someone who has had a similar level of effectiveness per minute to what Bargnani did to start his career...which is very busty for a 1st overall pick. Compare him with someone that was taken where he should have been taken though, like our very own Terrence Ross, and Bennett was better as a 21 yr old than Ross was. The Raptors organization have given Ross opportunity and stability that Bennett has never received (Ross received 17 mpg in his rookie season despite being a tire fire, Bennett has never been given that development time).

I think I'd be all over this. Bennett could really easily develop into a strong rotation player along the lines of Patman. He's undersized for the 4 and not quite athletic enough for the 3, but has a good shooting stroke, is a slightly below average defender (which at 21 yrs old, I'm okay with), and is a pretty strong rebounder. Showed a really big improvement from his rookie season to his 2nd pro season (dropped 15-20 pounds last off season).

Worst case scenario, it's a home grown towel waver who probably won't cost much, at best he turns into a versatile match up forward off the bench who can do a bit of everything.

Metalleaf
09-25-2015, 04:26 PM
Anthony Bennett on waivers, expected to sign with the Raps. Nice.

MindzEye
09-25-2015, 04:35 PM
Anthony Bennett on waivers, expected to sign with the Raps. Nice.

Very nice, very nice.

Metalleaf
09-25-2015, 04:38 PM
@ESPNSteinLine: Barring some unexpected snag, Toronto is well-placed to sign Anthony Bennett to one-year minimum deal -- all it can offer -- early next week

MyNameIsJonas
09-25-2015, 04:53 PM
Would he be eligible to go to the D-League

MindzEye
09-25-2015, 09:11 PM
Would he be eligible to go to the D-League

Why would he go to the D League?

MyNameIsJonas
09-25-2015, 10:05 PM
Why would he go to the D League?

better for him to get getting minutes somewhere no?

I don't see a path to anything real in Toronto.

Leafin'
09-25-2015, 10:20 PM
Who is he really competing with here for minutes? Who is a legit starting quality power forward on the team? Patterson and ythats it

MindzEye
09-25-2015, 10:26 PM
better for him to get getting minutes somewhere no?

I don't see a path to anything real in Toronto.

He slots into the rotation at the 3/4 spot behind Carroll, JJ, & Patman. He's 21 yrs old, 12-15 mpg is plenty for him.

JaysCyYoung
09-25-2015, 10:29 PM
Bennett was mishandled horribly from the outset. A club like Cleveland was not the proper situation for him, especially given their unwillingness to find him a position (stuck behind LeBron at the 3 and fellow Canadian Thompson at the 4) and by the time that he ended up in Minnesota he was already so tarnished and had the bust label applied to him so quickly that he was basically guaranteed to fail.

Give him some good minutes every night and let him develop. He's still got a ton of raw, untapped talent, and there's no question in my mind that he can develop into a solid NBA rotation piece. He won't be an all-star in all probability, but he could become a reliable starter or solid bench option.

MindzEye
09-25-2015, 10:57 PM
In fairness, he came into the league fresh off of a knee surgery and 30 pounds overweight. I don't think there's such thing as a situation good enough to properly manage that.

HabsFan1
09-27-2015, 12:12 AM
I actually think that the raptors will be a good place for Bennett. He can learn from Scola, and grab around 10 mins a game. Hope he can turn his career around.

Montana
09-27-2015, 12:55 PM
by the time he got to Minnesota he was already so tarnished and had the bust label applied to him so quickly that he was basically guaranteed to fail.



Thanks Pronger.

MindzEye
09-27-2015, 12:59 PM
Shots fired

Leafin'
09-27-2015, 01:10 PM
Bennett was never stuck behind Lebron, as they never played together.

Either way, i think Bennett is a good gamble to take. Wouldn't be surprised to see him develop into a good rotation player with some time. Even if he doesn't, who really cares? At 1 million or whatever we really have nothing to lose here.

Its official according to thescore app: Anthony Bennett signs 1-year, minimum deal with Raptors.

Sweet.

Deckie007
09-27-2015, 02:04 PM
Thanks Pronger.
His post was riddled with so many inaccuracies I hit the quote button, sighed, then closed Chrome.

Deckie007
09-27-2015, 02:08 PM
Bennett was never stuck behind Lebron, as they never played together.

Either way, i think Bennett is a good gamble to take. Wouldn't be surprised to see him develop into a good rotation player with some time. Even if he doesn't, who really cares? At 1 million or whatever we really have nothing to lose here.

Its official according to thescore app: Anthony Bennett signs 1-year, minimum deal with Raptors.

Sweet.
Yeah I like it. Outside of Carroll, no one is really guaranteed minutes at the 3/4. If he steals minutes from Patman or Ross or Johnson that's a good thing.

zeke
09-28-2015, 01:45 PM
Last year's stats:

C J.Valanciunas (23): 26.2mpg / 12.0ppg (57.2%) / 8.7rpg
PF P.Patterson (26): 26.6mpg / 8.0ppg (44.9%) / 5.3rpg
SF D.Carroll (29): 31.3mpg / 12.6ppg (48.7%) / 5.3rpg
SG D.Derozan (26): 35.0mpg / 20.1ppg (41.3%) / 3.5apg
PG K.Lowry (29): 34.5mpg / 17.8ppg (41.2%) / 6.8apg

C B.Biyombo (23): 19.4mpg / 4.8ppg (54.3%) / 6.4rpg
PF L.Scola (35): 20.5mpg / 9.4ppg (46.7%) / 6.5rpg
SF J.Johnson (28): 19.6mpg / 7.9ppg (58.9%) / 3.7rpg
SG T.Ross (24): 25.5mpg / 9.8ppg (41.0%) / 1.0apg
PG C.Joseph (24): 18.3mpg / 6.8ppg (50.4%) / 2.4apg

C L.Nogueira (23): 3.8mpg / 1.0ppg (25.0%) / 1.8rpg
PF A.Bennett (22): 15.7mpg / 5.2ppg (42.1%) / 3.8rpg
SF B.Caboclo (20): 2.9mpg / 1.2ppg (33.3%) / 0.3rpg
SG N.Powell (22): ---
PG D.Wright (23): ---

worm
09-28-2015, 02:28 PM
hey new guy
welcome to the board

Deckie007
09-28-2015, 08:12 PM
Last year's stats:

C J.Valanciunas (23): 26.2mpg / 12.0ppg (57.2%) / 8.7rpg
PF P.Patterson (26): 26.6mpg / 8.0ppg (44.9%) / 5.3rpg
SF D.Carroll (29): 31.3mpg / 12.6ppg (48.7%) / 5.3rpg
SG D.Derozan (26): 35.0mpg / 20.1ppg (41.3%) / 3.5apg
PG K.Lowry (29): 34.5mpg / 17.8ppg (41.2%) / 6.8apg

C B.Biyombo (23): 19.4mpg / 4.8ppg (54.3%) / 6.4rpg
PF L.Scola (35): 20.5mpg / 9.4ppg (46.7%) / 6.5rpg
SF J.Johnson (28): 19.6mpg / 7.9ppg (58.9%) / 3.7rpg
SG T.Ross (24): 25.5mpg / 9.8ppg (41.0%) / 1.0apg
PG C.Joseph (24): 18.3mpg / 6.8ppg (50.4%) / 2.4apg

C L.Nogueira (23): 3.8mpg / 1.0ppg (25.0%) / 1.8rpg
PF A.Bennett (22): 15.7mpg / 5.2ppg (42.1%) / 3.8rpg
SF B.Caboclo (20): 2.9mpg / 1.2ppg (33.3%) / 0.3rpg
SG N.Powell (22): ---
PG D.Wright (23): ---

Damn, we deep. Almost forgot about the Joseph and Scola adds.

MindzEye
09-28-2015, 08:21 PM
hey new guy
welcome to the board

Yeah, was just about to ask who the new guy is.

JaysCyYoung
09-28-2015, 09:16 PM
Thanks Pronger.

I've been incredibly magnanimous regarding your extensive, extensive participation in the wrasslin' thread to date, so let's just leave it at that, shall we?

JaysCyYoung
09-28-2015, 09:18 PM
In fairness, he came into the league fresh off of a knee surgery and 30 pounds overweight. I don't think there's such thing as a situation good enough to properly manage that.

There's also the fact that he was projected in the six or seven range pre-draft, and some mocks had him going as low as tenth overall. Hard to fault a kid who got over-drafted relative to his projected position.

The 2013 draft was also horri-bad right across the board. Cody Zeller at four... yikes.

mbow30
09-28-2015, 09:24 PM
bennett has been a horrible first overall pick but he hasn't been a d-leaguer.

adding this guy for free is a coup.

and it's a perfect situation for him - nobody is expecting anything, and there are minutes to win.

axlsalinger
09-28-2015, 11:09 PM
Yup, awesome risk-free pickup.

MyNameIsJonas
09-29-2015, 12:58 AM
I've been incredibly magnanimous regarding your extensive, extensive participation in the wrasslin' thread to date, so let's just leave it at that, shall we?

possibly most pretentious post ever.

MindzEye
09-29-2015, 01:11 AM
possibly most pretentious post ever.

Pretentious but fair imo.

Aberdeen
10-12-2015, 08:08 AM
Well Lowry came into camp looking physically transformed and has been in beast mode through the preseason. Raptors could be underestimated by some coming into this season.

Metalleaf
10-12-2015, 08:41 PM
Lowry has 40 points in this preseason game vs the T-Wolves.

axlsalinger
10-16-2015, 03:33 PM
Sounds like Odom's condition is improving. Hopefully he can hang in there and recover from this.

http://espn.go.com/losangeles/nba/story/_/id/13902999/lamar-odom-conscious-breathing-own-las-vegas-hospital

LAS VEGAS -- Lamar Odom is conscious and breathing on his own in a Las Vegas hospital and has spoken a few words, a source told ESPN on Friday.

Odom no longer has a breathing tube, the source said. He is wearing a breathing mask and remains in critical condition, however.

Sources told ESPN that Odom's condition had been improving slightly over the past 36 hours, but he remained sedated as doctors worked to make sure his organs functioned properly.

Odom has been in the hospital since Tuesday, when he was found unconscious at Nevada's Love Ranch brothel, 90 minutes northwest of Las Vegas. He was rushed to the hospital and put on life support. As recently as Thursday night, sources told ESPN that Odom was "not out of the woods yet."

Bleedsblue&white
10-16-2015, 03:57 PM
He's going to have to write a book.

Bleedsblue&white
10-16-2015, 03:57 PM
Mmmm, probably better as a movie.

Jeremy
10-21-2015, 06:00 PM
Report: Tristan Thompson agrees to 5-year, $82M deal with Cavaliers
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/860346

BKerr
10-21-2015, 06:59 PM
Odom and Khloe have cancelled the divorce and are ready to give the marriage another chance.

Seriously?

What part of, my estranged husband was in a brothel, and overdosed on herbal viagara says.... hey lets give this marriage thing another chance?

This will end badly.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-21-2015, 07:04 PM
For better or for worse.

Hoss
10-21-2015, 07:38 PM
Spin off called keeping up with the odom's KUWTO

Bleedsblue&white
10-25-2015, 09:34 AM
Odom and Khloe have cancelled the divorce and are ready to give the marriage another chance.

Seriously?

What part of, my estranged husband was in a brothel, and overdosed on herbal viagara says.... hey lets give this marriage thing another chance?

This will end badly.

Think of the ratings.

JackBurton
10-25-2015, 12:37 PM
Odom and Khloe have cancelled the divorce and are ready to give the marriage another chance.

Seriously?

What part of, my estranged husband was in a brothel, and overdosed on herbal viagara says.... hey lets give this marriage thing another chance?

This will end badly.

It's like the Chris Rock Bit "New Pussy Ain't Gonna Take Care of My Ass when I'm Sick".

Hilarious he now realizes he loves her.

Not sure after the first show audiences will want to watch her take care of a vegetable.

Metalleaf
10-25-2015, 01:05 PM
Flip Saunders passed away at 60. That sucks...

Deckie007
10-25-2015, 01:12 PM
Indeed. I heard he had taken a turn for the worse a few weeks ago. Sucky.

MindzEye
10-25-2015, 01:47 PM
Yeah, that blows....always liked Flip

Jeremy
10-25-2015, 03:13 PM
RIP Flip. You'll be missed.

Jeremy
10-28-2015, 06:54 PM
And it begins. JV with 6 of our first 9 points.

Leafin'
10-28-2015, 07:07 PM
no no. now it begins. Carroll doesn't even make it a full quarter.

Sports in this city i tell ya.

Killer93
10-28-2015, 07:08 PM
#torontosports unbelievable sometimes

Deckie007
10-28-2015, 07:09 PM
Biyombo has exactly zero offensive game. Painful to see him make a move to the basket.

axlsalinger
10-28-2015, 07:23 PM
no no. now it begins. Carroll doesn't even make it a full quarter.

Sports in this city i tell ya.

We have such a long, tragic history of guys going to the locker room, then coming back into the game a few minutes later.

Leafin'
10-28-2015, 07:25 PM
We have such a long, tragic history of guys going to the locker room, then coming back into the game a few minutes later.

Jumped the gun. I got instant hurt feelings when i saw he wasn't moving his arm.

Good he came back. We need him.

Deckie007
10-28-2015, 07:42 PM
We have such a long, tragic history of guys going to the locker room, then coming back into the game a few minutes later.

was a horrific 8 minutes though!

Deckie007
10-28-2015, 07:43 PM
Also, nice effort on D, but the O needs to sharpen up.

Jeremy
10-28-2015, 08:18 PM
Where do you guys have us for wins this year? I'm thinking around the same as last year.

Deckie007
10-28-2015, 08:22 PM
50!

Leafin'
10-28-2015, 08:28 PM
Lowry is a monster.

Metalleaf
10-28-2015, 08:30 PM
It's a Biyombo Apocalypse.

axlsalinger
10-28-2015, 08:30 PM
Bismack being big.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
10-28-2015, 08:30 PM
3 points and a foul by TRoss. 75-68 Raps

Deckie007
10-28-2015, 08:33 PM
Really turned up the heat midway through the 3rd into the 4th and the Pacers have wilted. Take care of the ball and it's ours.

Metalleaf
10-28-2015, 08:34 PM
Can't sink the Bismack

Metalleaf
10-28-2015, 08:35 PM
T.Ross serving up fajitas with that dish

Leafin'
10-28-2015, 09:33 PM
Big game from our key guys tonight. Val was a beast. Lowry was phenomenal. Carroll was exactly as advertised.

Nice start to the year.

Metalleaf
10-28-2015, 09:36 PM
Yeah 21 and 15 from Val is a good sign....him getting 4th Q minutes also big.

MindzEye
10-28-2015, 10:15 PM
Biyombo has exactly zero offensive game. Painful to see him make a move to the basket.

Yeah. He's not here for that. He does two things well offensively. Rolls to the basket after a pick, and finishing offensive rebounds. He should be the 5th option offensively whenever he's on the court.

MindzEye
10-28-2015, 10:15 PM
Where do you guys have us for wins this year? I'm thinking around the same as last year.

52 wins

mbow30
10-28-2015, 10:56 PM
Yeah. He's not here for that. He does two things well offensively. Rolls to the basket after a pick, and finishing offensive rebounds. He should be the 5th option offensively whenever he's on the court.

he's exactly waht they needed on the D side, though. the raps are going to have to do a better job guarding the corner 3s given how many kickouts biyomba induces.

MindzEye
10-30-2015, 08:16 PM
I may name my first child, Bismack.


Raps up by 6 in the 3rd.

Leafin'
10-30-2015, 08:18 PM
LOL

Taking over in the 3rd quarter.

Carroll so far has been a stud. Scola has been a great pick up as well. Smart smart player.

MindzEye
10-30-2015, 08:36 PM
I like our offence way better than last year, a much better mix of inside out. I like our defence better than last year, much more active at challenging shots in the paint.

MindzEye
10-30-2015, 09:08 PM
Nice games by DD, Demarre, & Ross.

Jeremy
10-30-2015, 09:11 PM
Couldn't catch the game but glad we won. What's with JV only getting 23 minutes?

MindzEye
10-30-2015, 10:49 PM
Couldn't catch the game but glad we won. What's with JV only getting 23 minutes?

Foul trouble

MyNameIsJonas
10-31-2015, 01:47 AM
Those jersey's the celtics were wearing made my eyes sleepy.

Aberdeen
11-01-2015, 01:54 PM
Y'all know if reddit has a similar nba stream sub to mlb?

MindzEye
11-01-2015, 02:04 PM
Y'all know if reddit has a similar nba stream sub to mlb?

https://www.reddit.com/r/nbastreams

Aberdeen
11-01-2015, 02:51 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/nbastreams
Coolio

Deckie007
11-01-2015, 05:33 PM
After some roughs starts, the Raptors have come to play from the get-go tonight. Up 8 in the first Q.

Leafin'
11-01-2015, 05:48 PM
If anyone actually reads my posts i can't say enough good things about Carroll. His alpha mentality on defense is exactly what we needed from a swing. There was discussion in the offseason about other players instead of Carroll such as Tobias Harris and Kris Middleton. Neither of those guys have the defensive game. Both guys are younger and will likely be better all around players than Carroll over the next couple of years but Carroll was the guy to get it looks like.

Not a fan of the JYD2.0 nickname but it works.

Deckie007
11-01-2015, 05:55 PM
Joseph looks like a nice pickup as well. Massai did well this summer.

Leafin'
11-01-2015, 05:56 PM
...and Scola. He beats you with slow.

MindzEye
11-01-2015, 06:03 PM
Joseph looks like a nice pickup as well. Massai did well this summer.

Masai did a really good job accurately identifying what was wrong with the roster he gave Casey (it shouldn't have flopped down the stretch like it did....but it was still flawed, like we talked about all year, even when they were winning). We badly needed better on the ball defending, better rim protection, and better rebounding. Offensively we needed better off the ball movement.

Masai brought in a lot of bodies that combine to do a whole lot of that. Raptors are going to take a big step forward again this year.

MindzEye
11-01-2015, 06:05 PM
...and Scola. He beats you with slow.

He's literally the old white guy at the "Y". That you have no idea why the 4 track stars love to play with until you watch him do everything out there that they don't do. Rebound, defend, smart passing, smart screens, etc.

mbow30
11-01-2015, 06:41 PM
He's literally the old white guy at the "Y". That you have no idea why the 4 track stars love to play with until you watch him do everything out there that they don't do. Rebound, defend, smart passing, smart screens, etc.

and, of course, he can work off screens and hit that 15-20 foot jumper when he's open.

also, if what we saw in celts game is what we can expect from T-ross every now and again now that he's freed up to play more minutes at the 2... that could also be a big boost off the bench.

mbow30
11-01-2015, 07:05 PM
they got cory joseph at the perfect time. he's had just enough time to learn from the best and is just entering his prime years, physically.

he's a big time key for this team - gotta keep lowry fresh for the playoffs and it looks like having him on the floor is almost seamless offensively, without the big dropoff defensively we had last year.

Leafin'
11-02-2015, 11:35 PM
Terrence Ross 3 years 11 Million per.

My lord the money in the NBA getting tossed around is crazy. Still can't believe we passed on Andre Drummond for this plug.

MindzEye
11-03-2015, 07:46 AM
I'm more than a little concerned that he gets the money after starting the season hot. We've seen him look like an impact player for a few games at a time before, but he's never been able to sustain it.

CTheBigPicture
11-03-2015, 10:23 AM
I'm more than a little concerned that he gets the money after starting the season hot. We've seen him look like an impact player for a few games at a time before, but he's never been able to sustain it.

His role is different this time around though so that's the major variable here. Sure we would've liked Drummond but as things stand, I don't think this is a bad signing. You let him play this year in his current role, if he thrives then great, if not I don't see this as an untradable contract past this year. Some bottom feeding team out there with cap space would be willing to give him a shot I bet.

Deckie007
11-03-2015, 08:35 PM
Raptors cannot finish today. Also the refs are doing them no favours - only 3 FT attempts despite living in the paint.

MindzEye
11-03-2015, 09:04 PM
Casey is still allergic to allowing his guards to go underneath a screen.

mbow30
11-03-2015, 09:06 PM
val still has to learn to be aggressive on guards attacking the basket off of screens/picks. especially when that guard is the slow as val raymond felton.

mbow30
11-03-2015, 09:06 PM
with taht said, val is becoming so assertive under the basket and, thankfully, casey looks like he's going to start actually feeding him the ball.

mbow30
11-03-2015, 09:08 PM
also, luis scola for 1 year/$3... what a steal.

MindzEye
11-03-2015, 09:14 PM
val still has to learn to be aggressive on guards attacking the basket off of screens/picks. especially when that guard is the slow as val raymond felton.

Yes and no. There's two basic ways to handle the high screen and roll game. Guard over or guard under. Could Jonas stand to improve his ability to close out on that play? Yeah...but Casey respects the shooting ability of really mediocre point guards way too much by coming over screens like we do. Are we really worried about Felton stepping back? Stop respecting shitty shooters like this, and the movement that creates these mid range pockets stops immediately. I completely understand forcing the ball handler if you're facing a legit, off the dribble 3 pt threat....but we chase every PG in the league over that high screen and expose Val in probably the one area of the game he's really bad at.

MindzEye
11-03-2015, 09:15 PM
also, luis scola for 1 year/$3... what a steal.

Just a heady, professional ball player. The dude is allowed in my rotation until shit starts falling off of him.

MindzEye
11-03-2015, 09:20 PM
Love Biyombo....I wish there was a shots changed/challenged statistic, just to see what his impact really is defensively...the dude is a great help defender.

and really not loving Patrick Patterson's game right now. A lot of standing around waiting for a 3 pt shot...which he's bricking right now.

MindzEye
11-03-2015, 09:22 PM
Casey's last shot play calling is still hilariously bad...last year it was just give it to Lou or DD, iso.

Now it's just give it to Demar...iso

run a ****ing play man.

mbow30
11-03-2015, 09:30 PM
Just a heady, professional ball player. The dude is allowed in my rotation until shit starts falling off of him.

the sort of player who has a role on any team.

mbow30
11-03-2015, 09:40 PM
what a beauty play by carrol and scola.

Jeremy
11-03-2015, 09:46 PM
Don't get discouraged but Drummond grabbed 29 rebounds tonight. That's back to back 20/20 games.

axlsalinger
11-03-2015, 09:49 PM
Always liked Scola's game, but yeah, he's been awesome tonight.

Metalleaf
11-03-2015, 09:50 PM
http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/without-words-Walter-Breaking-bad-Ozymandias.gif

Deckie007
11-03-2015, 09:56 PM
Lowry is a bad man.

Deckie007
11-03-2015, 09:57 PM
Sit down Mark. You were getting all the calls in the 1st half.

Metalleaf
11-03-2015, 09:59 PM
Scola = Ice Cream Man.

Metalleaf
11-03-2015, 10:00 PM
Josh Lewenberg
On the 20-year anniversary of their franchise debut, the Raptors will start 4-0 for the first time in team history

axlsalinger
11-03-2015, 10:02 PM
Team is looking legit at both ends of the court. Bit of a grind early, but they really put the hammer down late in the 4th.

Metalleaf
11-03-2015, 10:27 PM
Just won 2 tickets to a Raptors game. tweeting >>

CTheBigPicture
11-03-2015, 10:54 PM
Just won 2 tickets to a Raptors game. tweeting >>

Man you are a master at twitter. What did you tweet this time to win? (congrats btw)

Metalleaf
11-03-2015, 10:56 PM
Metalleaf
@Raptors @T_DotFlight31 now that's what I call an extension. #RTZ #Raptors

Nothing groundbreaking....just a play on words.

CTheBigPicture
11-04-2015, 10:13 AM
Metalleaf
@Raptors @T_DotFlight31 now that's what I call an extension. #RTZ #Raptors

Nothing groundbreaking....just a play on words.

That's why you are so good at this. Play on words are tough. Tt's a talent.

Jeremy
11-04-2015, 08:00 PM
Raps were down 12 early to Thunder but just took the lead to end the half. Good ish.

Deckie007
11-04-2015, 08:01 PM
Bit of an ugly start, but the Raps find themselves up 1 at the half in OKC. Struggling offensively, but really turning the screws defensively along with the Thunder's sloppy play. Grinding away on the second game of a back-to-back.

Deckie007
11-04-2015, 08:27 PM
The Thunder use the beat from "Yeah" by Usher for their defense chant. I like it.

Deckie007
11-04-2015, 09:00 PM
For game 5 of the season, this contest has been pretty spicy. Diggin' the fight between the two teams.

Deckie007
11-04-2015, 09:03 PM
I'm not sure the Raps have another run in them, but I'm impressed with their grind in this game. Also, the OKC TV crew are giant homers. Almost unwatchable.

Deckie007
11-04-2015, 09:17 PM
Raps outscoring OKC 30-12 in the paint in the 2nd half and living at the line. Loving it.

Deckie007
11-04-2015, 09:17 PM
Up 2!!!

Jeremy
11-04-2015, 09:18 PM
Wow

axlsalinger
11-04-2015, 09:25 PM
Probably had no business winning that one, but we just imposed our WILL in the 4th quarter. Choppy game, back to back on the road, gutted out an impressive W. Great game from DeMar.

Deckie007
11-04-2015, 09:26 PM
What a win! Love seeing that 4Q defence. It was beautiful to watch. Also, Corey Joseph looks absolutely great without the shackles on. Didn't think he was this good.

CTheBigPicture
11-04-2015, 09:33 PM
Amazing win.

CTheBigPicture
11-04-2015, 10:07 PM
How many Raps' points do you think ESPN included in their highlight package? (hint: just 1 bucket)


http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400827953

mbow30
11-04-2015, 11:18 PM
Probably had no business winning that one, but we just imposed our WILL in the 4th quarter. Choppy game, back to back on the road, gutted out an impressive W. Great game from DeMar.

they limited durant to 2 shots in the 4th. when you do that... you deserve to win. demarre carrol and val taking a step forward have made this a very different team.

CTheBigPicture
11-05-2015, 07:54 AM
Raptors D stepped up earlier too to keep them in the game. OKC had 12 TOs in the first half alone.

Deckie007
11-05-2015, 10:28 AM
How many Raps' points do you think ESPN included in their highlight package? (hint: just 1 bucket)


http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400827953
We're 20 years in, no point whining about that shit anymore. I couldn't care less about ESPN's coverage of the Raptors.

Wayward DP
11-05-2015, 10:40 AM
Pretty impressive start. Haven't been able to catch much of the games, but results speaking for themselves so far. Nice to see the team seemingly taking that hard-nosed defence-first mentality to heart. Pretty big change from last year's group.

Metalleaf
11-05-2015, 12:11 PM
That's why you are so good at this. Play on words are tough. Tt's a talent.

I got into the Toronto Star via Twitter as well.

Deckie007
11-06-2015, 05:24 PM
Paul Jones just used "footbottom" on TV with Tim & Sid. Nearly peed myself laughing.

Killer93
11-07-2015, 07:35 AM
Why exactly did they sign Ross to that extension?

Aberdeen
11-07-2015, 07:50 AM
They would say they're betting on the guy. Works hard, loyal to Toronto, unselfish, etc. Also seem to value continuity very highly.

MindzEye
11-07-2015, 04:57 PM
Why exactly did they sign Ross to that extension?

Because contract values have gone mental in the last few seasons (when tbh, I expected the exact opposite.....sanity reigned supreme for about 2 years before the new TV contract money started rolling in)..and 10 million per in this market is pretty equivalent to about 6.5 from a few years ago...which is just about where you would expect Ross to slot in.

Deckie007
11-07-2015, 04:59 PM
Yeah, it's insane, but at least only a 3 year commitment.

Volcanologist
11-07-2015, 05:13 PM
yeah it's the mistakes on term that kill your team

HabsFan1
11-08-2015, 10:28 PM
Man. Drummond would look really good in T.O. 27 Reb tonight.

mbow30
11-08-2015, 10:30 PM
don't forget that they have derozan locked up for 9.5 this year and next. derozan + tross for 20mn is pretty solid value.

it alos gives them some protection if derozn bolts after next year.

Leafin'
11-09-2015, 03:47 AM
don't forget that they have derozan locked up for 9.5 this year and next. derozan + tross for 20mn is pretty solid value.

it alos gives them some protection if derozn bolts after next year.

According to Sportrac Derozan has a player option for next season at 9.5 Million. He will undoubtedly decline his player option. He'll be in the 22+ range pretty easily i think. If not here than with another team.

Deckie007
11-10-2015, 06:53 PM
Melo gives zero ****s on defense.

mbow30
11-10-2015, 08:56 PM
every time i start to care about basketball i watch the refs just totally blow easy calls in favour of the league's stars and i lose the ability to stay interested in this game.

nba reffing is the worst in all of professional sports and it isn't close.

Killer93
11-10-2015, 09:00 PM
+1 just awful

Deckie007
11-10-2015, 09:03 PM
Missed a travel and an out of bounds on the same play. Ridiculous,

CTheBigPicture
11-10-2015, 09:59 PM
Aside from the refs, the NBA's predictability pushes it down below NHL/MLB etc. on my must watch list.

onetwothree
11-12-2015, 08:30 PM
Steph Curry is on a different planet than everyone else.

MindzEye
11-15-2015, 10:15 PM
I still really dislike Casey as a coach. Same shit killing us in the 4th Q that was killing us in the 1st Q.

MindzEye
11-15-2015, 10:17 PM
and I'm pretty much done with Demar DeRozan as a core piece here.

A volume chucker with mediocre defensive ability and no true range on his jumper. A value for his contract, but not someone we should be throwing a huge pile of money at to keep.

Deckie007
11-15-2015, 10:26 PM
and I'm pretty much done with Demar DeRozan as a core piece here.

A volume chucker with mediocre defensive ability and no true range on his jumper. A value for his contract, but not someone we should be throwing a huge pile of money at to keep.

Some very questionable shot selection late in the game tonight. He does get to the line like a mofo. DD opts out this year obviously, I think the Raps may let him walk as he gonna get paaaaaaaaaaaaaaid.

HabsFan1
11-15-2015, 11:40 PM
DD would be a great secondary piece.

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 07:40 AM
DD would be a great secondary piece.

He's about to get paid like a franchise player he's not though. His game has grown some over the last 2 seasons. He's much better at identifying the open man once he's put the ball on the deck for example....but he never did improve the range on his jumper and he still doesn't really work within the flow of the offence to get his shots. Probably 90% of his touches that end in a shot are basically iso's.

JaysCyYoung
11-16-2015, 09:08 AM
Why would anyone pay DeRozan like a franchise player though? Surely other organizations see the same flaws in his game that Raptors fans do?

Also, DeMarcus Cousins thoroughly owns the Raptors.

onetwothree
11-16-2015, 09:12 AM
DeRozan is a nice player if you have a superstar in place already and he's the 2nd or 3rd option. If he's your go to guy, you're a pretender.

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 10:27 AM
Why would anyone pay DeRozan like a franchise player though? Surely other organizations see the same flaws in his game that Raptors fans do?

Because a lot of basketball people are still enamoured by the classic athletic 2 guard who can create his own shot.


Also, DeMarcus Cousins thoroughly owns the Raptors.

He does, but we did a really, really poor job adapting to him all night. I would have liked to see Casey force DC out of their gameplan, which was clearly to abuse JV and Bismack with his lateral quickness and shooting by putting JJ on him, at least to force him down into the post and get him out of that rhythm he had going on the outside. We had no answer for him on the outside other than throwing Biyombo at him and praying. So yeah, maybe we try a few different looks and he still crushes us, but I find that Casey doesn't really do in game adjustments to shit like that.

TimHorton
11-16-2015, 11:19 AM
Casey is a very poor coach all around actually and is going to cost this team a significant amount this year.

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 11:22 AM
Casey is a very poor coach all around actually and is going to cost this team a significant amount this year.

I think Masai gave Casey a mulligan last year, and conceded that he didn't give Casey the necessary tools to have a solid defensive squad. I don't think Casey gets another mulligan, so if we're a .500ish club by the 30-40 game mark, I could see Masai make a change. This is a really good, really deep roster if it's handled right.

CH1
11-16-2015, 11:23 AM
I think Masai gave Casey a mulligan last year, and conceded that he didn't give Casey the necessary tools to have a solid defensive squad. I don't think Casey gets another mulligan, so if we're a .500ish club by the 30-40 game mark, I could see Masai make a change. This is a really good, really deep roster if it's handled right.

Agreed.

Deckie007
11-16-2015, 11:31 AM
I'm continually impressed by Corey Joseph. Really did not think he was this good.

Deckie007
11-16-2015, 11:31 AM
Agreed.
+2

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 11:37 AM
I'm continually impressed by Corey Joseph. Really did not think he was this good.

Just a nice, solid backup PG. Probably a fringe starter if you don't have designs on making the ECF. Loved watching him deny Belinelli the ball possession after possession in the 4th Q.

Deckie007
11-16-2015, 11:42 AM
Just a nice, solid backup PG. Probably a fringe starter if you don't have designs on making the ECF. Loved watching him deny Belinelli the ball possession after possession in the 4th Q.
Yeah that was fantastic. He gets after it on the defensive end and really attacks the paint on offense. I like that he has enough size to pair with Lowry as well.

onetwothree
11-18-2015, 06:20 AM
Raptors jobbed again. NBA officiating is embarrassing.

MindzEye
11-18-2015, 07:51 AM
There was a non call against Carmelo the other night that is maybe the worst series of non calls I've ever seen.

The quality of NBA officiating is the only thing that stops me from being a bigger fan of the league. It's so ****ing bad.

Deckie007
11-18-2015, 08:00 AM
Just saw the hilights, Jesus. It's not like the Warriors need help. Awful calls down the stretch.

Leafin'
11-18-2015, 02:09 PM
Awful foul calls on Lowry and Joseph near the end of the game sealed the game for the Warriors. Embarrassing. They need coaches challenge or something to level the field. Its too much of a coincidence that the Raptors get the shitty end of the stick so consistently.

TimHorton
11-18-2015, 10:17 PM
Are we sure we shouldn't fire Dwayne Casey?

MyNameIsJonas
11-18-2015, 10:34 PM
I'm almost certain we should

Leafin'
11-18-2015, 10:44 PM
Shitty loss to a shitty team.

That 4th quarter was awful to watch. That inbound play Utah had with 1 minute left sealed the deal when they just passed it around and walked to the basket.

Embarrassing.

We are the definition of a treadmill team it looks like. Too good to not make the playoffs, but not good enough to matter.

onetwothree
11-19-2015, 06:42 AM
Masai needs to keep Val and the young guys and blow the rest of the team up. They are not good enough to be anything more than a 1st or 2nd round team.

Giving DD 20+ million next year would be a horrible mistake.

JackBurton
11-19-2015, 07:04 AM
Aside from the refs, the NBA's predictability pushes it down below NHL/MLB etc. on my must watch list.

Yes. The NBA by far is the most predictable sport,.

Aberdeen
11-19-2015, 07:52 AM
Masai needs to keep Val and the young guys and blow the rest of the team up. They are not good enough to be anything more than a 1st or 2nd round team.

Giving DD 20+ million next year would be a horrible mistake.

I think this is a bit reactionary. They have lots of good pieces, and could be a strong playoff team. But ya DD shouldn't be part of the core...nor Casey.

MindzEye
11-20-2015, 12:51 PM
The biggest problem here right now is not personnel. I'd argue that it wasn't last year either, but we had some personnel based weaknesses (namely defensively rebounding) that were exacerbated by Casey being inept at in game management, sub patterns, etc.

Masai can't afford to give Casey more than 20-25 games to sort this out, but we're seeing some really troubling signs again early in the season. Last year they got wallpapered over for the first 50 games of the season, let's hope the swoon comes early this season and claims the coach before it's too late to right the ship

onetwothree
11-20-2015, 12:52 PM
If raps don't beat Lakers, they could be looking at a 6 game losing streak with games against clips and cavs up next.

mbow30
11-20-2015, 10:46 PM
well. val hurt.

Hoss
11-20-2015, 10:56 PM
Fractured hand..... WTF

mbow30
11-20-2015, 11:18 PM
raps' go-small second unit just dominating right now.

carrol's a tremendous basketball player. he might be the most well rounded raptor we've ever seen. a fantastic defender, decent jumper (with some distance), can play under the basket, good enough hands to rotate the ball and he brings some size to the table.

and this team's been better with derozan on the bench, tonight.

mbow30
11-20-2015, 11:31 PM
derozan is single handedly allowing la back into this. he has been terrible tonight at both ends.

mbow30
11-20-2015, 11:34 PM
to his creidt, just made a nice play to get the basket.

Deckie007
11-22-2015, 04:23 PM
Raps in the middle of blowing a 29 pt lead...down to single digits inside of 9 minutes left in the 4th. Only scored 10 pts in the 2nd half so far.

Deckie007
11-22-2015, 04:58 PM
Held on, but it was uuuuuuuuuuuuugly.

Wayward DP
11-23-2015, 11:14 AM
Held on, but it was uuuuuuuuuuuuugly.

Yeah I watched the tail end of the second half, really thought we were gonna blow it. Ugly, ugly half, but I'll take the W. Apparently there was loud yelling and profanity in the Clippers locker room post game... allegedly Josh Smith and a coach.

JaysCyYoung
11-23-2015, 11:16 AM
Last night was one of those games where you almost wish that they had lost. They played like utter shit after the second Q.

Wayward DP
11-23-2015, 11:17 AM
Watching the second half I honestly had no idea how the hell they'd managed to build such a lead. Sloppy sloppy stuff all around. We really lack any outside shooting presence too. And without Val are pretty horrifically undersized.

JaysCyYoung
11-23-2015, 11:21 AM
Are the Raptors always chronically undersized or what? I thought one of the assets that Biyombo would bring to the table is that he's a fairly big man, is he not?

Edit: nevermind. Just checked Basketball-Reference and NBA.com and they have him listed at 6'9, 245 while lining up at centre. Yikes.

mbow30
11-23-2015, 01:09 PM
Watching the second half I honestly had no idea how the hell they'd managed to build such a lead. Sloppy sloppy stuff all around. We really lack any outside shooting presence too. And without Val are pretty horrifically undersized.

Rossd Lowry and carol are all competent outside shooters. Same with ppat.

They Def lack size without val though

I think some comments are a bit harsh in this thread. They've had a rough schedule. ... 11 road games and only one other team has more than 8. And if Includes okc gs and lac where the raps won 2 and almost swung a huge upset vs gs (a chintzy call ended it)

They're playing some good ball.

JaysCyYoung
11-23-2015, 01:16 PM
Rossd Lowry and carol are all competent outside shooters. Same with ppat.

They Def lack size without val though

I think some comments are a bit harsh in this thread. They've had a rough schedule. ... 11 road games and only one other team has more than 8. And if Includes okc gs and lac where the raps won 2 and almost swung a huge upset vs gs (a chintzy call ended it)

They're playing some good ball.

Fair point on the bolded. Actually, if I recall, many commentators and fans expressed the view before the season began that if the Raptors got through this rough stretch of the schedule with a .500 record or thereabouts, they would be in excellent shape the rest of the way, all things considered.

To be 9-6 right now, even with the benefit of that 5-0 start, is pretty good.

HabsFan1
11-23-2015, 01:36 PM
Scola can still play ball!!! Lol

MindzEye
11-23-2015, 02:44 PM
Are the Raptors always chronically undersized or what? I thought one of the assets that Biyombo would bring to the table is that he's a fairly big man, is he not?

Edit: nevermind. Just checked Basketball-Reference and NBA.com and they have him listed at 6'9, 245 while lining up at centre. Yikes.

Raps aren't undersized at all. We're actually relatively huge at the 2 & 3. A little below average size at the 4 (though an improvement there over past years), and plenty big at the 5 with Val & Biyombo....whose length plays a lot bigger than his 6'9 suggests

HabsFan1
11-23-2015, 07:54 PM
This team is in need of a better starting PF. Scola had done great but not the answer in my opinion.

Also need Ross to get his shit together. That contract may look real bad.

Deckie007
11-23-2015, 11:20 PM
This team is in need of a better starting PF. Scola had done great but not the answer in my opinion.

Also need Ross to get his shit together. That contract may look real bad.

That's no way to talk about our 2016 starting SG.

Deckie007
11-25-2015, 08:35 PM
Raps playing some righteous defense in the 4th tonight