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GGpX
02-15-2011, 02:53 PM
- Bartschi's a puck wizard who kind of reminds me of Jussi Jokinen. Take from that what you will.

- Jamieson Oleksiak....I really don't know about this one. Do we really want our own Jarred Tinordi?

- Nicklas Jensen is the biggest boom/bust prospect in the Draft after Ryan Murphy. The kid could end up being a Danish Jeff Carter.

- Colin Jacobs plays a kind of Jason Arnott type game. A 6'2" centre would look good in the old prospect pool.

- Was really impressed with Rakell when I saw him. Uses his frame well, good feet, all the tools to be be a north-south secondary scoring winger at the pro level.

- Ty Rattie - I'm higher on Rattie than a lot of people. I see Ray Whitney in this kid's future.

- Mika Zibanejad. This is one that Jays and I split on. For my part, I see a Swedish Ryan Kesler in this kid.

Reason I want my Habs to pick him. ;)

Metalleaf
02-15-2011, 07:35 PM
bartsbytes John Bartlett
by kevin_mcgran
26 year old Steve Christie from U of Manitoba will wear #32 and back up Ben Scrivens tonight in Winnipeg. Marlies at Moose at 8:30pm ET.

Metalleaf
02-15-2011, 09:13 PM
Clayton Hansler
Kadri has now drawn two penalties in the first period. He's really figured out that part of his game. Always keeps his feet moving.

hockeylover
02-15-2011, 10:44 PM
chansler Great blocker save by Scrivens. This guy doesn't know pressure. Up a bunch, tied, or down a ton - he's consistent.

zeke
02-15-2011, 11:05 PM
and Scrivens stops 34 of 35 to steal a win against the first place meese.

Alfamale
02-15-2011, 11:08 PM
i'm pretty sure burke is planning on moving that 1st rounder for a top 6 fwd.

Cojo
02-16-2011, 08:29 AM
Clayton Hansler
Kadri has now drawn two penalties in the first period. He's really figured out that part of his game. Always keeps his feet moving.

From what i seen he had that party of his game in the NHL. Drawing penalties anyway.

Metalleaf
02-16-2011, 12:45 PM
Clayton Hansler
W/ only 3 regulation losses in 12 starts & a team-best .929 SV% & 2.22 GAA- is there any reason not to follow @Scrivens_30 (yupp.. official)

drewser
02-16-2011, 09:59 PM
KenBeckett

Jerry D'Amigo had two goals and an assist tonight in the #OHLRangers' 5-3 win over Windsor. #OHL #Leafs

hockeylover
02-16-2011, 10:06 PM
7gp 5g 8a 13pts

Wicked, that's what you wanna see.

Metalleaf
02-16-2011, 10:11 PM
3-1 Marlies tonight Hamilton with 2. Potentially beating the Moose twice in a row, has to be a confidence boost.

leafman101
02-16-2011, 10:13 PM
McKegg with 4 goals tonight.

zeke
02-16-2011, 10:21 PM
I think Kadri's playing on a line with Johnny M.

Metalleaf
02-16-2011, 10:28 PM
STARTING IN GOAL: #30 Ben Scrivens


FORWARD LINES

Brunnstrom - Zigomanis - Hodgman
Hamilton - Foster - Scott
Kadri - J. Mitchell - Mueller
Engel - Caruana - Voros


DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS

Lashoff - Gysbers
Richmond - Brennan
Mikus - Holzer

Alfamale
02-16-2011, 10:45 PM
Gysbers is quietly puttig up some pretty decent numbers in the AHL (37 games, 7 goals, 16 assists, 23 points, +6) for the soon to be 24 year old.

zeke
02-16-2011, 10:47 PM
4-1 marlies.

kadri with 1gl/2pts

Alfamale
02-16-2011, 10:48 PM
Kadri and Kessel need to be playing together -- like now.

Fitzgerald#11
02-16-2011, 10:51 PM
whats his ahl stats now?? over a PPG??

Alfamale
02-16-2011, 10:53 PM
30 games, 29 points.

LeafGm
02-16-2011, 10:55 PM
Kadri and Kessel need to be playing together -- like now.
Yep:

Nikolai Kulemin - Mikhail Grabovski - Clarke MacArthur
Joffrey Lupul - Nazem Kadri - Phil Kessel
Darryl Boyce - Tyler Bozak - Colby Armstrong
Jay Rosehill - Tim Brent - Joey Crabb

He certainly can't do worse than Bozak offensively.

hockeylover
02-16-2011, 11:01 PM
chansler Clayton Hansler
Kadri and Shirokov drop the mits at centre ice. The rest of the players on the ice mix it up. Tempers raising. #Marlies

Looks like Kadri is tossed - not sure why. Shirokov had fully engaged Kadri. Nazem gets an additional minor.

zeke
02-16-2011, 11:15 PM
back to back wins over the first placed team. solid.

and a gordie howe 'trick for kadri.

and Kadri > Hodgson

Metalleaf
02-16-2011, 11:19 PM
Marlies are tied with the Bulldogs for third in the division.

Metalleaf
02-16-2011, 11:26 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1333414_o.gif

JaysCyYoung
02-17-2011, 01:12 AM
Great night all-around for the prospect pool. Great to see Naz mixing it up physically and riling up the opposition while continuing to produce offensively.

mbow30
02-17-2011, 03:45 AM
it also reflects well on both him and the coaching staff on the marlies. means he learned something, because it's no small feat jumping on to a new team in a different league and performing off the bat.

teeds
02-17-2011, 06:13 AM
I think the Marlies finally have a really good coaching staff. Burke is very smart when it comes to that shit. On our team...... he is obviously doing something that I always suspected, but never wanted to believe. See the rumours thread.

Blueman
02-17-2011, 10:13 AM
Link to the fight

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2011/2/17/1998773/nazem-kadri-fights-sergei-shirokov

Mega
02-17-2011, 10:55 AM
"Keep throwin them, keep throwin them!"

johnunit
02-17-2011, 11:31 AM
"Keep throwin them, keep throwin them!"

that sounded to me like Brennan and who knows who else have been going over some things with Kadri in practice. me likey.

Metalleaf
02-18-2011, 05:25 PM
Marlies signed two goalies to PTOs: Andrew Engelage and David Brown.

Metalleaf
02-18-2011, 07:17 PM
Marlies are on Leafs TV tonight.

hockeylover
02-18-2011, 07:31 PM
Kohma Jerry D'Amigo scores early in the first to give Kitchener Rangers the lead.

Metalleaf
02-18-2011, 07:32 PM
Kitchener vs. Mississauga, OHL Finals combatants?

hockeylover
02-18-2011, 09:46 PM
Jake Gardiner scores for Wisconsin. 9th of the year.

Oh. And Frattin too with his 23rd.

hockeylover
02-18-2011, 11:00 PM
UNDMHockey Frattin just scored on an amazing individual effort to tie the game 3-3 with 3:31 left!

UNDSID It's quite possible there is a better college hockey player than Matt Frattin. However, I have not seen this player.

This is actually the third goal scored by Fratting tonight but the 2nd was waved off due to "contact with goaltender".

hockeylover
02-19-2011, 06:47 PM
"He's just a man-child. He's the MVP of our league."- St. Cloud State head coach Bob Motzko following last night's 3-3 tie, in which Matt Frattin scored the second of his two goals to tie the game in the final minutes. The tying goal was a thing of beauty, highlighting Frattin's unique blend of strength, speed and skill.

Burke will be at the UND game tonight apparently to check out Frattin and MacWilliam - Frattin plays wing on UND's top line and MacWilliam plays on their top pairing.

JaysCyYoung
02-19-2011, 08:11 PM
We all know that Burke fell in love with the kid after hearing about his drunken lawnmover-tossing tirade off of campus several years ago.

hockeylover
02-19-2011, 08:20 PM
We all know that Burke fell in love with the kid after hearing about his drunken lawnmover-tossing tirade off of campus several years ago.

The UND beat reporter must have gotten some bad information though, since Burke is at the Leaf game tonight.

hockeylover
02-19-2011, 10:50 PM
McKegg: 3 assists tonight
56gp 38g 38a 76pts 1.36

Mega
02-19-2011, 11:39 PM
Did they drop it down from 4 assists? I read on twitter he got 4...


yep, you're right 3.

zeke
02-21-2011, 12:04 AM
Marlies


Forwards

C N.Kadri (20): 32gms, 12gls, 31pts, +2, 52pim (82gms, 31gls, 79pts, +5, 133pim)
W C.Hanson (24): 44gms, 12gls, 29pts, -1, 39pim (82gms, 22gls, 54pts, -2, 73pim)
W J.Hodgman (22): 35gms, 9gls, 23pts, +4, 40pim (82gms, 21gls, 54pts, +9, 94pim)

C M.Zigomanis (29): 50gms, 8gls, 36pts, -5, 54pim (82gms, 13gls, 59pts, -8, 89pim)
W R.Hamilton (25): 24gms, 9gls, 17pts, +10, 17pim (82gms, 31gls, 58pts, +34, 58pim)
W F.Brunnstrom (25): 54gms, 14gls, 29pts, +6, 20pim (82gms, 21gls, 44pts, +9, 30pim)

C J.Colborne (20): 56gms, 13gls, 27pts, -15, 35pim (82gms, 19gls, 40pts, -22, 51pim)
W G.Scott (22): 33gms, 7gls, 18pts, +13, 26pim (82gms, 17gls, 45pts, +32, 65pim)
W M.Mueller (22): 52gms, 9gls, 25pts, +0, 42pim (82gms, 14gls, 39pts, +0, 66pim)

C D.Boyce (26): 35gms, 6gls, 16pts, +7, 48pim (82gms, 14gls, 38pts, +16, 113pim)
W J.Crabb (27): 34gms, 11gls, 18pts, -7, 31pim (82gms, 27gls, 43pts, -17, 75pim)
W J.Mitchell (25): 6gms, 1gls, 3pts, -2, 0pim (82gms, 14gls, 41pts, -27, 0pim)

C A.Foster (26): 48gms, 7gls, 23pts, +8, 22pim (82gms, 12gls, 39pts, +14, 38pim)
W J.Rosehill (25): 32gms, 7gls, 13pts, +7, 114pim (82gms, 18gls, 33pts, +18, 292pim)
W A.Voros (29): 6gms, 0gls, 1pts, -1, 14pim (82gms, 0gls, 14pts, -14, 191pim)

C B.Irwin (23): 45gms, 7gls, 15pts, +0, 37pim (82gms, 13gls, 27pts, +0, 67pim)
W L.Caputi (22): 11gms, 1gls, 5pts, +1, 30pim (82gms, 8gls, 37pts, +8, 224pim)
W D.Mitchell (21): 40gms, 5gls, 13pts, +4, 22pim (82gms, 10gls, 27pts, +8, 45pim)

C M.Caruana (25): 22gms, 4gls, 8pts, +0, 8pim (82gms, 15gls, 30pts, +0, 30pim)
W J.Cowan (34): 26gms, 6gls, 9pts, -11, 11pim (82gms, 19gls, 28pts, -35, 35pim)
W R.Greenop (21): 11gms, 0gls, 3pts, -1, 28pim (82gms, 0gls, 22pts, -8, 209pim)





Defensemen


D S.Gysbers (23): 38gms, 7gls, 24pts, +5, 20pim (82gms, 15gls, 52pts, +11, 43pim)
D M.Lashoff (24): 57gms, 7gls, 26pts, +6, 113pim (82gms, 10gls, 37pts, +9, 163pim)

D D.Richmond (26): 46gms, 3gls, 19pts, -4, 80pim (82gms, 5gls, 34pts, -7, 143pim)
D J.Mikus (22): 41gms, 3gls, 14pts, +0, 8pim (82gms, 6gls, 28pts, +0, 16pim)

D J.Engel (26): 49gms, 10gls, 14pts, -1, 12pim (82gms, 17gls, 23pts, -2, 20pim)
D M.Brennan (24): 50gms, 2gls, 8pts, +7, 87pim (82gms, 3gls, 13pts, +12, 143pim)

D K.Holzer (22): 51gms, 1gls, 7pts, +2, 72pim (82gms, 2gls, 11pts, +3, 116pim)
D J.Finger (31): 23gms, 0gls, 5pts, +1, 8pim (82gms, 0gls, 18pts, +4, 29pim)




Goalies

J.Gustavsson (26): 2gms, 2-0-0, 0.75gaa, 0so, .966sv%
B.Scrivens (24): 17gms, 7-4-3, 2.38gaa, 1so, .924sv%
J.Reimer (22): 15gms, 9-5-1, 2.59gaa, 3so, .920sv%
J.Rynnas (23): 28gms, 9-14-3, 2.80gaa, 1so, .909sv%
A.Engelage (22): 1gms, 1-0-0, 2.79gaa, 0so, .893sv%

Preston_Mizzi
02-21-2011, 12:50 PM
Marlies are on at 1.. apparently live on Leafs tv.

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 12:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJfo5ak6SrA

Goals by Frattin at 2 minutes, 3:20 (waved off), 4:10

trujaysfan
02-21-2011, 12:54 PM
Frattin = ManChild

Montana
02-21-2011, 01:17 PM
Marlies are on at 1.. apparently live on Leafs tv.

If anyone knows how to get a stream of that, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Aberdeen
02-21-2011, 01:28 PM
Can listen on am640, not sure about video stream...

drewser
02-21-2011, 01:34 PM
Colborne with #2 from Kadri on the PP

zeke
02-21-2011, 01:34 PM
Colborne SCORES

Kadri ASSISTS

Montana
02-21-2011, 01:38 PM
Sweeeeeet.......looks like the fact he was playing on the P-Bruins third line, may have been the biggest reason for his low production, afterall.

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 01:39 PM
felixpotvin We'll just call him Joe Goal-borne

If Colborne can show there was an underlying reason for those poor stats in Providence, I won't be nearly as negative about the deal. I had my doubts about his ceiling. Though I still think he should've been resigned but that's another matter.

Montana
02-21-2011, 01:45 PM
If Colborne can show there was an underlying reason for those poor stats in Providence

Only time will tell, but seen/read various reports/posts that Colborne was playing on their third line (on a shitty Providence team), and that the Bruins top priority for his this season was to work on his two way game, and work on his physicality down low.......and looking at his shot totals, it would definitely seem to back that up.



Hopefully he continues to show off his potential offensive upside with the Marlies....

zeke
02-21-2011, 01:49 PM
yep, if Colborne immediately starts scoring like this for the Marlies, I'll be buying heavy on the "Providence just sucked so bad" stock.

trujaysfan
02-21-2011, 02:22 PM
Not really sure where to ask this but what the hell has happened to Kyle Turris?

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 02:23 PM
Kyle Turris trying to break the record for slowest penalty shot attempt, currently held by Jason Allison.

trujaysfan
02-21-2011, 02:38 PM
Kadri with a goal 3-0 marlies

zeke
02-21-2011, 02:38 PM
Kadri SNIPES.

beauty feed from Mitchell, beauty delay from kadri.

leafman101
02-21-2011, 02:39 PM
Kadri and Colborne giving a glimpse of the future these last two games.

Montana
02-21-2011, 02:39 PM
Marlies > Leafs.

trujaysfan
02-21-2011, 02:43 PM
wilson, nonis, fletcher, poulin, and looked like army at the marlies game today........ is that normal?

Montana
02-21-2011, 02:49 PM
Kadri + Colborne have literally set off the fire alarm....

JaysCyYoung
02-21-2011, 02:54 PM
Awesome to see our future 1-2 punch down the middle being dangerous offensively. And the ordinary fan seriously has no idea just how rare it is for a 20 year-old fresh from junior hockey like Naz to be scoring at such an incredible rate in his first go around at the professional leve.

Kadri is an elite, elite prospect.

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 02:58 PM
Today:
1. TOR Colborne, (14) (Kadri, Gysbers), 5:48 (PP)
1. TOR Hodgman, (10) (Zigomanis, Engel), 17:03 (PP)
2. TOR Kadri, (13) (Richmond, Mitchell), 11:11 (EN)
2. SA MacLean, (23) (Tikhonov), 12:56

Saturday:
1. GR Minard, (10) (Meech, Emmerton), 19:29
2. GR Emmerton, (9) (Mursak, Minard), 5:25
2. TOR Colborne, (13) (Lashoff, Hodgman), 7:12
2. TOR Kadri, (12) (Zigomanis, Gysbers), 15:16 (PP)
2. GR Tatar, (15) (Filppula, Tardif), 15:46
3. TOR Scott, (7) (Hamilton), 8:30

And Colborne with the SO winner.

Montana
02-21-2011, 02:59 PM
And the ordinary fan seriously has no idea just how rare it is for a 20 year-old fresh from junior hockey like Naz to be scoring at such an incredible rate in his first go around at the professional level.


off the top of your head, can you think of some examples?

WellPlayed
02-21-2011, 03:04 PM
Eric Staal did this:

2004-05 Lowell Lock Monsters AHL GP:77 G:26 A:51 P:77

But he already had a year in the NHL.

JaysCyYoung
02-21-2011, 03:10 PM
off the top of your head, can you think of some examples?

Not off the top of my head but I could look up some recent examples later when I'm off from work.

zeke
02-21-2011, 03:10 PM
BIG JOE!

drewser
02-21-2011, 03:10 PM
Colborne with #2 on the day!!

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 03:11 PM
Wow, that's really odd.

Preston_Mizzi
02-21-2011, 03:11 PM
Jiri Tlusty was one.. but he's definitely an exception to an otherwise pretty solid rule.

Montana
02-21-2011, 03:11 PM
Smokin Joe!!

Montana
02-21-2011, 03:12 PM
Not off the top of my head but I could look up some recent examples later when I'm off from work.


Yeah, if you get some free time, it'd be greatly appreciated.......

WellPlayed
02-21-2011, 03:13 PM
Logan Couture did this:

2009-10 Worcester Sharks AHL GP:42 G:20 A:33 P:53

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 03:13 PM
And Kadri showing some truculence. Guess he heard Burkie doesn't like him anymore.

leafman101
02-21-2011, 03:16 PM
Every time Colborne is on the ice he seems to be controlling the puck in the offensive zone and creating chances. And if he doesn't have the puck, he's stripping it off of the other team.

Pretty impressive so far.

Preston_Mizzi
02-21-2011, 03:17 PM
How was his 2nd goal? I just missed it..

zeke
02-21-2011, 03:24 PM
nice hit, Big Joe.

2nd goal was solid - quick bang-in one timer on a feed from brunnstrom from the top of the crease into the lower corner.

leafman101
02-21-2011, 03:24 PM
All 3 goals have been from him going to the net. Have to love that.

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 03:24 PM
One thing I don't get - people saying his stats are bad because he was playing on the 3rd line... how the hell was he even on the 3rd line?

zeke
02-21-2011, 03:27 PM
and was he not on their PP? and if not, why?

leafman101
02-21-2011, 03:29 PM
Because they are stupid? Who cares. Its not exactly like Boston's track record of developing their skilled forwards is very good.

zeke
02-21-2011, 03:30 PM
I care, because it would give an explanation of Colborne's numbers that would make me very happy.

Montana
02-21-2011, 03:30 PM
One thing I don't get - people saying his stats are bad because he was playing on the 3rd line... how the hell was he even on the 3rd line?


Going off what Bruins fans have said..........it's because Boston wanted him to work on his two way play, first and foremost.

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 03:33 PM
That doesn't really make sense though. We want Kadri to improve his two way play but we don't limit his offensive opportunities with the AHL club to do so.

If he was playing like this and they had him on the 3rd line, they're idiots.

Montana
02-21-2011, 03:43 PM
That doesn't really make sense though. We want Kadri to improve his two way play but we don't limit his offensive opportunities with the AHL club to do so.

Every team wants all their players to be better two way players.........it would appear though, that the Bruins actually went so far as to put him on a defensive line, and in a more defensive role, to have him work on that part of his game.......where as we're obviously putting Kadri (and now Colborne) in every position possible to succeed offensively.


If he was playing like this and they had him on the 3rd line, they're idiots.


pretty much.



Colborne was like 4th or 5th on the Bruins, in shots on goal, and even lower when you rank them by SOG/game (on a brutal offensive squad).......yet he was still scoring goals at a pretty good rate, when he did shoot........think he's now got a shooting percentage up around 16%, similar to Kadri.

Montana
02-21-2011, 03:54 PM
empty netter for the trick would be nice...

Montana
02-21-2011, 03:56 PM
Jeff Cowan with the empty netter, to ice it...

hockeylover
02-21-2011, 05:13 PM
Greg McKegg named OHL Player of the Week.

4g, 4a in 3 games.

Metalleaf
02-21-2011, 05:23 PM
So....how does it feel to have a fairly booming prospect pool for the first in....a long time?

JaysCyYoung
02-21-2011, 06:21 PM
This is probably the deepest this team's system has been since I started seriously following them and definitely from an organizational standpoint for the first time since the late 1970s and early 1980s.

JaysCyYoung
02-21-2011, 06:22 PM
And how fantastic is it for Leafs fans and the organization's scouts to have both a supremely talented agitator scoring over a PPG and racking up opposition penalties as a rookie in the AHL and another first round pick, this one a 6'5 behemoth at centre with soft hands who is finally learning how to drive to the net, both in our pool simultaneously?

Kadri - Colborne down the middle in the future. *drools*

zeke
02-21-2011, 06:25 PM
28th best system in hockey, so I hear.

JaysCyYoung
02-21-2011, 06:26 PM
****ing ridiculous. Sixth best more realistically with a legitimate chance to break into the top five depending on how well Morrison and co. do at this year's draft.

JaysCyYoung
02-21-2011, 06:28 PM
Seriously though, for all the shit that we have given Burke for his poor decisions regarding the handling of the Kaberle situation, addressing (or more accurately, not addressing) this team's goaltending situation, his handling of Reimer and Giguere, the Lebda and Komisarek signings, etc. the one area that he has without question thrived in and set the organization in great standing has been with respect to his acquisition of high-end young talent. Kadri, Colborne, Blacker, Reimer, Scrivens, Gardiner, McKegg, Nicholls, Ross, Rynnas, etc. is quite a great pool of young talent moving forward that was not previously in the system. He's done a really good job in that respect.

MindzEye
02-21-2011, 06:30 PM
Yeah, he's been brilliant for everything from the Marlies on down. It's the NHL club that he doesn't seem to be able to figure the **** out.

zeke
02-21-2011, 06:45 PM
Honestly, if he had just axed Toskala and Giguere from the start, he'd be looking all roses right now.

BeLeafer
02-21-2011, 09:47 PM
I don't think so. It's not nearly as simple as that, though he did crap the bed large in both instances. He's a moron when it comes to goaltenders. He got lucky once. Keeping Gus with the team over Reimer was a bigger **** up than hanging onto Giguere anyhow.

BeLeafer
02-21-2011, 09:48 PM
Seriously though, for all the shit that we have given Burke for his poor decisions regarding the handling of the Kaberle situation, addressing (or more accurately, not addressing) this team's goaltending situation, his handling of Reimer and Giguere, the Lebda and Komisarek signings, etc. the one area that he has without question thrived in and set the organization in great standing has been with respect to his acquisition of high-end young talent. Kadri, Colborne, Blacker, Reimer, Scrivens, Gardiner, McKegg, Nicholls, Ross, Rynnas, etc. is quite a great pool of young talent moving forward that was not previously in the system. He's done a really good job in that respect.

Burke inherited Reimer ... which is undoubtedly why it took until he had little other choice to play him regularly.

JaysCyYoung
02-21-2011, 09:55 PM
True, but Scrivens has the talent to be a gem so Burke deserves some credit in that regard as well. Obviously he will have to produce at the NHL level but the early returns are extremely promising.

Fitzgerald#11
02-22-2011, 08:04 PM
so who's the next Crosby?

Nathan Mckinnon - http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/nathan-mckinnon-dubbed-hockeys-next-sidney-crosby-at-15-years-old.html

or

Hudson Fasching - http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=6145415

both only 15, should be a rivalry to watch the next few years

teeds
02-22-2011, 09:01 PM
Worst thing that can happen to a kid is to get people telling you shit like this at 15. I can tell you.

IrishWolfman
02-22-2011, 09:10 PM
There's always another phenom. Throw them on the pile. You know how many people thought John Hughes and John McFarland, total minor hockey phenoms were going to be the next big things before they flamed out at the OHL level?

soco22
02-22-2011, 09:53 PM
Worst thing that can happen to a kid is to get people telling you shit like this at 15. I can tell you.

Yeah....imagine how amazing Crosby could have been if this didn't happen! Lmao

leafman101
02-22-2011, 09:56 PM
I don't think it can ruin a kid who would have become the next one. Because to become the next one you need that mental strength.

But I'm sure it has ruined a bunch of kids who didn't have what it takes to be the next one, but could have still been good hockey players.

soco22
02-22-2011, 09:58 PM
I know, being sarcastic.

Ruins kids, and can mak kids into great players.

Works both ways. Some thrive and some need to develop in the shadows before exploding onto the scene.

mbow30
02-23-2011, 01:27 AM
i think it's a testament to how f'ing good crosby is.... that the best player ever watched him play at 14 or 15 and anointed him 'the next one.'

and all sidney crosby has done since then is back gretzky's assertion up.

a cup, a gold medal, a gold medal winning goal... the kid's already done it all.

drewser
02-23-2011, 04:15 AM
Interview with Gardiner on an Edmonton radio station last night:

http://www.thepipelineshow.com/clips/season_6/Jake_Gardiner_Feb22.mp3

number17
02-23-2011, 10:07 AM
Yes, you gotta chalk this one up to Reimer ... it's a goalie win. Montoya was pretty good at the other end, but FINALLY, we won a game because our goalie is better than theirs ... hasn't happened much until Reimer got on the scene.

I'm still cautiously optimistic about Reimer, as we all know you don't know what you got in a goalie until the 2nd, sometimes 3rd season of his career. But Reimer's looking like the real deal, because he isn't making highlight reel save after saves. He's not playing over his head. You can believe this is the REAL Reimer, and that would be a pretty good #1 in this league.

That aside, just when you think our pathetic PP can't get any worse, we sure look completely lost out there without Kaberle at the point. A big part of our PP problem is a systems issue, which is a coaching issue. I think Brent makes a POOR PP QB though (I know, I know, he played the point in PP for the Marlies last season) so that experiment only lasted 2 PP shifts. Lebda isn't any better and if there's 1 forward they should try at the point it's Bozak.

Oh yeah, and on most nights, Lebda + Komi would have cost us the game ... the way they keep turning over the puck and keep missing defensive assignment, and the way they keep taking penalties is ridiculous. I know Wilson is already limiting their minutes but if not for Reimer last night, we would've lost because of these 2 stiffs. It's quite a deadly combo with Komi always relying on Lebda for outlet pass when he gets into trouble, and Lebda always makes the worst decision with the puck. I know Burke is trying to trade for a dman but till then, let's bring 1 of Gysbers or Holzer or Blacker up here. Lebda is a disaster.

LeafGm
02-23-2011, 10:23 AM
Back on the subject of prospects, it certainly looks like being demoted to the AHL hasn't caused Kadri to lose any of his confidence (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_buffery/2011/02/22/17371066.html):


“Obviously I want to be in the NHL more than anyone, but I understand you have to pay your dues. Right now I’m not really worried about that,” Kadri said on Tuesday, following a Marlies practice at Ricoh Coliseum. “I’m playing well, things are going for me, I’ve got a lot of confidence here with the coaching staff and Dallas has been putting me in situations where I can be much more responsible. So I think it’s helped me on the long run and hopefully it’s only a matter of time before I’m up at the big club.”

“I don’t have a weak mind like that,” insisted the London, Ont., native, when asked if his time in the minors has taken an emotional toll. “I don’t let little things like this bother me. If I did — playing in Toronto — I’d be in trouble. I could be in a much worse spot right now,” he added. “I can think of a million people who’d love to be in my situation right now, so what do I have to worry about? I just have to keep developing as a hockey player and just keep getting better and hopefully get upgraded soon.”

“Absolutely. There’s no doubt in my mind that I can be a dominant player in the NHL. I definitely have all the tools and assets,” he said. “Maybe I was a little rough around the edges to start, but I can promise you that everything’s going to pan out in the end. And hopefully it’s soon.”

zeke
02-23-2011, 10:26 AM
FREE NAZEM KADRI!

FREE NAZEM KADRI!

FREE NAZEM KADRI!

number17
02-23-2011, 10:27 AM
Gotta love Kadri's cockiness and his attitude.

But I think the trade for Colborne is gonna be very good for Kadri's development. For a guy this cocky, having a peer to push him all the times is going to be VERY important. These 2 guys will help each other out on the ice and push each other to be better players for YEARS to come.

LeafGm
02-23-2011, 10:28 AM
Don't be silly zeke. We need to keep him down with the Marlies for their playoff run. After all, it's not like the Leafs have closed to within six points of a playoff spot, and could use another center who can score with Tyler Bozak having completely lost his scoring touch.

MyNameIsJonas
02-23-2011, 11:18 AM
Lost?...lol...hasnt discovered.

LeafGm
02-23-2011, 11:28 AM
He discovered it plenty last year in his half season in the NHL.

Montana
02-23-2011, 08:47 PM
Nice article on Reimer from James Mirtle...


According to data compiled by hockey statistician Gabriel Desjardins, Reimer is the 15th goalie since 1995-96 to begin his NHL career with a .925 save percentage or better after 15 games.

The list of those who have been here before includes a few who became regular starters (Tim Thomas, Henrik Lundqvist, Niklas Backstrom, Marty Turco) and others who were less successful but still have/had NHL careers (Patrick Lalime, Vesa Toskala, Brent Johnson, Ty Conklin, Alex Auld, Josh Harding).

A couple, like Reimer, still have an incomplete body of work (Steve Mason and Sergei Bobrovsky), while others (Erik Ersberg and Kevin Hodson) only shone in that first, brief taste of life in the NHL.


Toronto has a combined save percentage of only .895 with Jean-Sébastien Giguère or Jonas Gustavsson in goal, the equivalent of allowing 1.2 more goals against per game than Reimer’s .934.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/reimer-maple-leafs-enjoying-the-ride/article1918257/?cmpid=rss1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

zeke
02-23-2011, 09:01 PM
I'd like to see the list of goalies with a .930 or better over their first 15.

BeLeafer
02-23-2011, 09:02 PM
Mirtle is doing fine work - sure makes the other guys on the Leafs beat look like complete hacks.

Interesting ... looking at these guys:


Lalime - never cracked .900 in any other league

Toskala - did not do this as a regular starter, I don't think. In fact, his first 15 games were spread over three NHL seasons.

Brent Johnson - this looks like an error. He was .921 over his first six then .907 in 31 games the next season. He too was not in a starting role.

Ty Conklin - also spread over multiple seasons and looks to be inaccurate.

Alex Auld - spread over 3 seasons as backup.

Josh Harding - spread over 3 seasons, skewed by a white hot 7 games in his second season. Also in backup role.


None of these guys touched .934 over 16 games, however. Mirtle had to drop the bar a fair bit to capture all these lesser lights.

johnunit
02-23-2011, 09:15 PM
There's a few nitpicking type flaws in his analysis, but that's almost forumice-level statistical analysis. Like you said, putting the other hacks to shame

zeke
02-23-2011, 09:56 PM
tough game against a good Hershey Bears team tonight, but the Marlies have done well. Gusto has looked very good. Kadri and Colborne not so much.

They're heading into a shootout now. It's on LeafsTV.

Volcanologist
02-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Marlies get stuffed in the shootout.

CRL
02-23-2011, 10:11 PM
Well Kadri played with Voros it is like RW took over marlies

johnunit
02-23-2011, 10:16 PM
Well Kadri played with Voros it is like RW took over marlies

Voros is probably the highest-scoring guy on the team in terms of NHL career.

edit: Jeff Cowan has him beat in many times more games, Brunnstrom has 3 more points in less games, but yeah. he's a top-line talent in the AHL.

CRL
02-24-2011, 08:10 AM
Voros is probably the highest-scoring guy on the team in terms of NHL career.

edit: Jeff Cowan has him beat in many times more games, Brunnstrom has 3 more points in less games, but yeah. he's a top-line talent in the AHL.

he was invisible and unable to even do something with passes from Kadri, just useless

number17
02-24-2011, 10:22 AM
I like reading Mirtle's stuffs ... and anyone who likes his articles should be a regular on this board :)

LeafGm
02-25-2011, 02:42 PM
He may be stretching the definition of "prospect", but I'm not sure where else to post this:

Jonas Gustavsson's stats with the Marlies:

GP 3, 2-0-1, 1.24 GAA, 0.946 SV%

Pretty good looking numbers. I haven't caught any Marlies games with him playing though. Any word from anybody who has on how Gustavsson looks?

zeke
02-25-2011, 03:56 PM
He's looked real good.

BeLeafer
02-25-2011, 09:41 PM
Hopefully there's some scouts watching the Marlies. Trade him before he can face NHL shooters again.

Montana
02-26-2011, 03:31 PM
Kadri opens the scoring for the Marlies 1-0...

trujaysfan
02-26-2011, 03:32 PM
is it on tv?

Montana
02-26-2011, 03:35 PM
RogersTV I believe.....but I'm just following updates on twitter.

Metalleaf
02-26-2011, 03:35 PM
Yeah Rogers TV not sure the exact channel, depends on area.

drewser
02-26-2011, 03:53 PM
Kadri with a beauty setup to Voros on the PP to make it 2-0 (Colborne with the 2nd assist)

JaysCyYoung
02-26-2011, 04:26 PM
Oustanding, baby. Outstanding! Keep it up Naz and Big Joe!

zeke
02-26-2011, 05:43 PM
FREE NAZEM KADRI

FREE NAZEM KADRI

FREE NAZEM KADRI

JaysCyYoung
02-26-2011, 05:45 PM
WE WANT PLAYOFFS.

*CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP*

WE WANT PLAYOFFS.

*CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP*

WE WANT PLAYOFFS.

*CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP*

LeafGm
02-26-2011, 05:48 PM
(...and not the Calder Cup playoffs. We don't give a shit about those.)

hockeylover
02-26-2011, 05:56 PM
UNDSID Matt Frattin scores his 25th on an absolute rocket of a one-timer. "Ho-bey Ba-ker" chants begin in the arena. #frattinforhobey

Cojo
02-26-2011, 08:16 PM
Cherry pretty funny on CC.

Shows a beauty goal by Kadri. "No hands, can't play for the leafs."

Shows a beauty pass by Kadri. "But can't play for the leafs."

Good little chuckle out of that.

Fitzgerald#11
02-26-2011, 08:23 PM
yeah had to rewindo to watch that again

good stuff

hockeylover
02-27-2011, 06:13 PM
Frattin scores 27th goal of the season in Game 35. 1 goal, 1 assist.

Mega
02-27-2011, 06:13 PM
UNDSID Jayson Hajdu
Frattin comes out of the penalty box to score his 27th on a sick breakaway move. 1g, 1a so far. #frattinforhobey #hedidntwristshotforonce


Kids on fire!

(Thanks HL for that guy to follow)

teeds
02-27-2011, 08:17 PM
Is Frattin going to make the Leafs at some point?

Mega
02-27-2011, 08:53 PM
I'm no where near qualified to say, but from what I understand he's set to beat Okposo's totals from his time on that team.

Montana
02-28-2011, 05:39 PM
kevin_mcgran: papework but #Leafs sent Aulie to #Marlies to make him eligible for AHL playoffs. It's a for-now move. He'll be back up in a day.”

LeafGm
02-28-2011, 06:11 PM
kevin_mcgran: papework but #Leafs sent Aulie to #Marlies to make him eligible for AHL playoffs. It's a for-now move. He'll be back up in a day.”
Interesting...what about Reimer? Weren't they planning to make this move with him too?

leafman101
02-28-2011, 06:12 PM
I guess with Scrivens and Rynnas they'd rather save the call up.

LeafGm
02-28-2011, 06:23 PM
I guess with Scrivens and Rynnas they'd rather save the call up.
Yeah, that's what I figured they should do, but Burke did explicitly say at the Kaberle trade press conference that he was going to burn up two of his four call-ups for Reimer and Aulie. If he changed his mind though, I'm glad. Hopefully the extra call-up he'll have in his pocket will make him more willing to call up Kadri or Gysbers.

BeLeafer
02-28-2011, 06:56 PM
I highly doubt he brings up anyone that can help beyond an emergency situation.

LeafGm
02-28-2011, 07:54 PM
I actually got a response from McGran regarding my Reimer question. Apparantly the deadline to send players down to the AHL and get them on the Marlies' playoff roster isn't today, and Burke still has six more days to send down Reimer in another paper move and have him eligible for the AHL playoffs.

BeLeafer
02-28-2011, 08:11 PM
Always good to know that Burke is looking after his corporate masters and doing his best to help generate revenues for the Marlies.

johnunit
02-28-2011, 08:23 PM
Always good to know that Burke is looking after his corporate masters and doing his best to help generate revenues for the Marlies.

Oh come on. using up an extra waiver to get better goaltending for a team that will feature BOTH our top prospects at center (and probably a bunch of others) in the playoffs has implications far beyond selling more 10 dollar marlies tickets.

LeafGm
02-28-2011, 08:26 PM
Oh come on. using up an extra waiver to get better goaltending for a team that will feature BOTH our top prospects at center (and probably a bunch of others) in the playoffs has implications far beyond selling more 10 dollar marlies tickets.
The point is, he's more interested in burning up those call-ups to help out the Marlies than he is in using them to help out the Leafs.

johnunit
02-28-2011, 08:49 PM
The point is, he's more interested in burning up those call-ups to help out the Marlies than he is in using them to help out the Leafs.

I don't think there's any callup we could make (beyond perhaps calling up Kadri, which they clearly have decided against in the name of developing him) is a particularly big help for the Leafs. None of the defencemen down there are NHL-ready, and we've already called up all the Marlies that could help us out. Reimer for the Marlies, on the other hand, could give a slew of prospects (keeping in mind the CHLers and NCAA guys we might have join late) more professional playoff games. To me, it's a no brainer.

leafman101
02-28-2011, 08:50 PM
You have to wonder if Jake Gardiner will get a shot when his college season ends. Both Hanson and Irwin did. If the Leafs are still struggling on the blueline that could be an option in a few weeks.

mbow30
02-28-2011, 11:25 PM
what about frattin??

teeds
02-28-2011, 11:39 PM
My contact, who I revealed to one of the most venerated posters here(today), said to me some time ago, that Burke wanted a lot of the guys on the Leafs to go through a Calder Cup experience. As opposed to being destroyed by Philadelphia in the first round in four games.

Perhaps that might be believed now. Sure he would accept making the playoffs, as would the corporate masters, but he knows what it takes to win a Stanley Cup, and as plucky as these guys are, they ain't winning a Stanley.

mbow30
03-01-2011, 12:56 AM
My contact, who I revealed to one of the most venerated posters here(today), said to me some time ago, that Burke wanted a lot of the guys on the Leafs to go through a Calder Cup experience. As opposed to being destroyed by Philadelphia in the first round in four games.

Perhaps that might be believed now. Sure he would accept making the playoffs, as would the corporate masters, but he knows what it takes to win a Stanley Cup, and as plucky as these guys are, they ain't winning a Stanley.

to be honest... if that's really the case then that's stupid and burke's an idiot for thinking that way.

the emotional lift of getting to the playoffs, the buzz that would surround the team if they did, and the experience the youngsters would get from seeing how playoff hockey is played would be invaluable to this team's development, moving forward.

just that little taste would be a big time help, imo.

it would also help burke better assess where this team's shortcomings lie. maybe grabovski, macarthur, kulemin, armstrong, phaneuf, schenn and aulie will step it up two notches in the playoffs. maybe they need more skill than physicality. who knows.

i just odn't see how getting there, even if they were made short work of, could be anything but enormously positive for this team.

BeLeafer
03-01-2011, 02:27 AM
it would also help burke better assess where this team's shortcomings lie. maybe grabovski, macarthur, kulemin, armstrong, phaneuf, schenn and aulie will step it up two notches in the playoffs. maybe they need more skill than physicality. who knows.

Very good point.

Cojo
03-01-2011, 06:58 AM
Exactly.

So if we don't make it in this year (which i am still very hopefull for btw and believe we still have a legit shot), we will have to wait yet another year to assess our playoff strengths and weaknesses.

Look how many years good teams like Vancouver has made it into the playoffs, they are still trying to tweek their team to fix prior year playoff mistakes.

If Burke thinks he can make the playoffs once or twice and win the cup from that, well lets just say i would bow down if he gets that done.

johnunit
03-01-2011, 08:24 AM
I don't think Burke SEES it as an either or. I think Burke believes he's found the balance where he's not hurting the Leafs chances but is still giving the Marlies a boost. I don't think it's a conscious decision to take from one to give to the other.

number17
03-01-2011, 10:05 AM
I think the whole "I don't want to make the playoff just to be squashed in 4 games." comment has been blown WAY Out of proportion by the media.

If you listen to when Burke made that comment, he answered the reporters' question about whether there are untouchables on this team as the team tries to make a run to make the playoff, and he was specifically asked about Luke Schenn just prior to that. His point was, yes he'd like to make the playoff, but he's not going to touch what he considers a core part of this team's future, just to make the playoff and then be killed by the Flyers in 4 games.

Burke very much wants to make the playoff, both the Leafs and Marlies. If the Leafs do miss the playoff though, he still wants his yongsters to go through the playoff experience with the Marlies, which is why he has to make the stupid roster moves to make sure Reimer, Aulie etc can play in the AHL playoff.

hockeylover
03-01-2011, 11:37 AM
Colborne from Kadri on the PP 1-0

Preston_Mizzi
03-01-2011, 11:56 AM
Is the game on tv at all?

JaysCyYoung
03-01-2011, 11:58 AM
Beautiful to see Big Joe with yet another marker. That's his fourth in six games for those who are keeping track.

IrishWolfman
03-01-2011, 12:31 PM
Colborne from Kadri on the PP 1-0

Something I think we may be hearing on the Leafs PP for years to come.

LeafGm
03-01-2011, 12:58 PM
Sort of annoying that these games aren't on TV. You'd think that'd be a natural thing to do when the organization has their own TV station.

zeke
03-01-2011, 01:00 PM
Kadri getting points, Scrivens playing well, Marlies still losing (thus increasing the odds of callups).....win, win, win.

Eakins should be fired, btw. It's pathetic that this Marlies team is on the outside looking in when you see the depth of quality in the lineup and the stellar goaltending they've received.

number17
03-01-2011, 01:13 PM
the game's not over yet ... down 2-1 with ~ 10 min to go.

I'm surprised the game's not streamed anywhere ... not even the audio.

And to have LeafsTV and not televise every Marlies game?!?? I don't get it.

Aberdeen
03-01-2011, 01:20 PM
The audio is here...

http://ahl.neulion.com/ahl/console.jsp?team=TOR

zeke
03-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Marlies LOSE!

woot!

number17
03-01-2011, 01:40 PM
can't watch the game obviously, but we did outshot the opponent 32-25, while Scrivens allowed 3 goals on 25 shots, and we went 1-6 on PP.

hockeylover
03-01-2011, 06:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXY0Iva_jq8&feature=player_embedded

Cojo
03-01-2011, 07:46 PM
Really liking the look of this kid.

Great find HL

teeds
03-01-2011, 07:53 PM
He looks like someone who will NOT be denied. Burkish.

WellPlayed
03-01-2011, 08:51 PM
Jeff O'Neil type?

Looks like he has a deadly shot.

hockeylover
03-01-2011, 09:08 PM
ME's CHL Mark
Jerry D'Amigo 19 points in 13 games 1.5ppg
Greg McKegg 41 goals, 79 points in 59 games 1.3ppg
Josh Nicholls 29 goals, 73 points in 62 games 1.2ppg

Don't have a number for defensemen but Jesse Blacker's at 50 points in 56 games.
Brad Ross is at under a PPG with 23 goals, 53 points in 57 games.

teeds
03-01-2011, 09:53 PM
Load up the cupboards. Kids are finally getting the coaching that they deserved these days. Although I will say one of the top 12 year olds came to my rink today with a BIG ATTITUDE and my 11 year old Mogilny/son blew his doors off. He could NOT believe it, nor could his fanatical father.

His father could not believe I don't have him in organized hockey at this point. I told him that the reason he was as good as he is, is BECAUSE, he is not.

But all that aside. There is SOME great coaching finally going on in Canada, and you can just start to see it now showing up in the OHL. It started about four or five years ago. At younger ages. And its movin on UP.

In fact, one guy who is hip to the same shit that I am noticed that the old guys hockey, in the Classic game was a hundred times better than it was say, twenty years ago.

But they still are little midget guys, the guys who played twenty to thirty years ago. Much bigger guys now.

Its why Burke in my opinion should just keep adding and accumulating.

LeafGm
03-01-2011, 09:56 PM
ME's CHL Mark
Jerry D'Amigo 19 points in 13 games 1.5ppg
Greg McKegg 41 goals, 79 points in 59 games 1.3ppg
Josh Nicholls 29 goals, 73 points in 62 games 1.2ppg

Don't have a number for defensemen but Jesse Blacker's at 50 points in 56 games.
Brad Ross is at under a PPG with 23 goals, 53 points in 57 games.
To be fair, I believe ME's 1.2PPG mark applies to players in their post-draft year. So, D'Amigo wouldn't be in the discussion, though it is good to see him doing well offensively at the OHL level after a challenging year in the AHL. Great stuff some Nicholls and McKegg though. And I suppose Ross being under a PPG isn't a huge deal---he wasn't really drafted with the expectation that he'd be a big time scorer for us. If he turns into another Colby Armstrong-type for us, that'll be fine. All in all, the Leafs' 2010 draft is looking pretty solid so far. It'll be exciting to see what the scouts can do with a ton more ammunition headed into the 2011 draft, even though it's supposed to be a weaker group.

hockeylover
03-01-2011, 10:02 PM
To be fair, I believe ME's 1.2PPG mark applies to players in their post-draft year.

You're right, I should've separated him too. Good call.

BeLeafer
03-02-2011, 05:20 AM
Disappointing that Ross hasn't upped his production this year - pretty much the exact rate as last year.

number17
03-02-2011, 10:41 AM
YT clips can make ANYBODY look good but the fight in this Frattin kid is pretty amazing. Like teeds said, very Burkish.

Scouting report says his skating is subpar, but has an excellent shot. I guess a very nice pick at #99 overall.

For D'Amigo, I read an interview a while ago, and he was saying how he had a HARD time adjusting to the AHL and admitted he lost his confidence and was tentative. He said returning to the junior has rejuvenated him and he looks forward to stepping up to the AHL challenge again.

johnunit
03-02-2011, 10:48 AM
is there a timeline for Rynnas' return?

LeafGm
03-02-2011, 10:57 AM
is there a timeline for Rynnas' return?
The initial estimate was that he'd be out four weeks, and that was a couple days short of two weeks ago.

hockeylover
03-02-2011, 11:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZPUS8QcsZg&feature=player_embedded

Aberdeen
03-02-2011, 12:40 PM
All the shyte we've been through these last two years aside can't help but think this team has a bright future.

johnunit
03-02-2011, 01:11 PM
Going with kids to meet the doctor? being at their bedside when they wake up from surgery? shit, that's no half measure charity work. That's very impressive.

hockeylover
03-02-2011, 01:43 PM
Sorry, I always forget we have Jake Gardiner now.

36 games, 9 goals, 28 assists, 37 points

johnunit
03-02-2011, 01:51 PM
for context, that puts him 3rd among defensemen in the NCAA and first among juniors. Justin schultz though is a sophomore but a month older and is at 1.25ppg.

mbow30
03-02-2011, 02:30 PM
YT clips can make ANYBODY look good but the fight in this Frattin kid is pretty amazing. Like teeds said, very Burkish.

Scouting report says his skating is subpar, but has an excellent shot. I guess a very nice pick at #99 overall.

For D'Amigo, I read an interview a while ago, and he was saying how he had a HARD time adjusting to the AHL and admitted he lost his confidence and was tentative. He said returning to the junior has rejuvenated him and he looks forward to stepping up to the AHL challenge again.

keep in mind that frattin is 23. i'm optimistic about him, but that optimism simply has to be tempered. especially when you consider that he isn't particularly big, and his skating is a knock against him. i'm not ruling him out but it will definitely be an uphill battle.


as for mckegg... i can't watch that clip, but is that the sort of stuff this kid is doing, JU? if so, GOOD FOR HIM. sounds like a great kid.

Mega
03-02-2011, 02:43 PM
Nice vid HL, thanks!

johnunit
03-02-2011, 04:20 PM
keep in mind that frattin is 23. i'm optimistic about him, but that optimism simply has to be tempered. especially when you consider that he isn't particularly big, and his skating is a knock against him. i'm not ruling him out but it will definitely be an uphill battle.


as for mckegg... i can't watch that clip, but is that the sort of stuff this kid is doing, JU? if so, GOOD FOR HIM. sounds like a great kid.

yes, it's an easter seals program. He talked a bit about being a "big brother" figure to kids going through illnesses, and it showed him walking with a kid into a doctor's office. It sounded way beyond the typical pop into the library and read stories stuff.

Blueman
03-02-2011, 06:48 PM
Anyone have an update on Caputi? What's the word on him?

IrishWolfman
03-02-2011, 07:30 PM
Anyone have an update on Caputi? What's the word on him?

Expected back in a few weeks.

teeds
03-03-2011, 12:22 AM
Frattin is 23? Ahhh. Probably not going to be any big deal. Joey Crabb with a shot maybe.

hockeylover
03-04-2011, 07:23 PM
thejustinfisher The #Marlies have two players in the Top 20 Rookie Scoring list, Nazem Kadri (11th) and Joe Colborne (16th).

leafman101
03-04-2011, 07:25 PM
And Kadri is only 11th because of his callup. Him Dalpe and Adam are the only ppg rookies.

hockeylover
03-04-2011, 07:30 PM
thejustinfisher A WBS #Penguin just went head over heels into the #Marlies bench (with a little help from Nazem Kadri). #Truculence?

hockeylover
03-04-2011, 08:26 PM
UNDSID Frattin dishes to Ben Blood on a 2-on-1f or a 3-1 lead. Frattin in on all three goals. Tech radio announcers: Frattin a "pleasure to watch."

1 goal, 2 assists.

Preston_Mizzi
03-04-2011, 08:28 PM
Ben Blood is a fantastic name.

hockeylover
03-04-2011, 09:21 PM
UNDSID Frattin springs Brad Malone on a breakaway and Malone scores 5-hole. 6-1 lead for UND, four points for Frattin. #frattinforhobey

UNDSID Matt Frattin has (temporarily, at least) taken over the WCHA scoring race with 37 points during league play. #frattinforhobey

--------

thejustinfisher Kadri adds an assist to his points total, and then flattens #Penguins' defender Joey Mormina not once, but twice.

And here's the earlier play of him dumping a Penguins player into the bench:

http://video.mapleleafs.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=446&id=101263

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Greg McKegg: 2 goals, 1 assists tonight

Josh Nicholls: 2 goals, 1 assist

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Scrivens has stopped 32 of 33 shots tonight. Said before the game he was gunning for first star.

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Marlies win 2-1. Kadri third star, 1 assist.

I think we're all sorta unsure about how to gauge NCAA stats but...

Bobby Butler Sr Year 29 goals, 24 assists, 53 points in 39 games played *Hobey Baker Nominee
Matt Frattin Sr Year 28 goals, 18 assists, 46 points in 36 games played.

hockeylover
03-04-2011, 10:42 PM
Brad Ross with two goals in the first period.
Jake Gardiner with a goal.

Pretty solid night for our prospects.

Mega
03-04-2011, 11:06 PM
What kind of player could Frattin develop into?

Corky27
03-04-2011, 11:13 PM
What kind of player could Frattin develop into?

Probably a mix of like Gretzky and Jesus.

JaysCyYoung
03-04-2011, 11:18 PM
I view Frattin as a third-liner with scoring touch moving forward. Just the way he handles the puck, his release, and his style of play reminds me a lot of Mike Knuble. I'm not saying that Frattin is going to develop into the consistent 25-30 goal threat that Knubs is but I can see him developing into a similar player moving forward. A mixture of grit and skill, but not elite tools.

His first stint in the AHL next season with the Marlies will be very telling though. So many NCAA'ers hit the wall in their first go-around at the professional level but Frattin isn't nearly as young as many of those names. At age 23 there's no excuse not to make an immediate impact next year.

hockeylover
03-04-2011, 11:19 PM
From people who watch him quite a bit (his coach, Dave Hakstol; the UND media relations guy, Jayson Hajdu; guy from the Grand Forks Herald, Schlossman), the consensus seems to be that he could be a quality 3rd liner. I'm not sure I've heard anyone in the know count on him being more than that but I think you need guys like this in your system just like you do the higher end guys.

hockeylover
03-05-2011, 12:01 AM
Brad Ross with the hatty.

Frattin with 1 goal, 3 assists
Ross with 3 goals
Nicholls with 2 goals, 1 assists
McKegg with 2 goals, 1 assists
Devane with 1 goal, 1 assist
Gardiner with 1 goal
Crescenzi with 1 goal
D'Amigo with 1 assist

mbow30
03-05-2011, 01:53 AM
I view Frattin as a third-liner with scoring touch moving forward. Just the way he handles the puck, his release, and his style of play reminds me a lot of Mike Knuble. I'm not saying that Frattin is going to develop into the consistent 25-30 goal threat that Knubs is but I can see him developing into a similar player moving forward. A mixture of grit and skill, but not elite tools.

His first stint in the AHL next season with the Marlies will be very telling though. So many NCAA'ers hit the wall in their first go-around at the professional level but Frattin isn't nearly as young as many of those names. At age 23 there's no excuse not to make an immediate impact next year.

thing is, knuble is 6'3 230. maybe what i saw was incorrect, but it had frattin at 5'11/190.

zeke
03-05-2011, 09:17 AM
Kadri is a beaut. Watch the vid from last night's marlies game: http://video.mapleleafs.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=802&id=101270

Aberdeen
03-05-2011, 10:34 AM
Ya he does not back down at all. He has a very uncommon attitude for a finesse scorer. And when the other team targets him (almost every night) he doesn't get thrown off his game, just fights back and keeps scoring.

Mega
03-05-2011, 10:35 AM
You see him smoke that guy in the face?

I'm surprised he got away with it.

Volcanologist
03-05-2011, 10:37 AM
Yeah, nice little suckerpunch there.

zeke
03-05-2011, 10:45 AM
the guy slew footed him dangerously into the boards. he deserved it.

JaysCyYoung
03-05-2011, 10:48 AM
thing is, knuble is 6'3 230. maybe what i saw was incorrect, but it had frattin at 5'11/190.

Oh I'm aware of the difference in size. That's going to be the key factor limiting Frattin from being as offensively productive as Knuble at the NHL level.

He won't be able to dominate much bigger men with large frames like he is doing to young kids in North Dakota that's for certain.

Mega
03-05-2011, 11:41 AM
Not a Leafs prospect, but...

I think it was Irish that was touting how good Skinner was gonna be before the draft, great call man!

teeds
03-05-2011, 12:06 PM
I think the thing that might allow Frattin to play pro is his never quit attitude. That more than anything. Being 23, small and college isn't going to bode well for him. But being from Saskatechewan(I believe anyways that he is from there) he will get a good look from this Saskatchewan laden team.

teeds
03-05-2011, 12:08 PM
And guys, Irish, Jays, I am going to The Owen Sound game and the Plymouth game. Any guys to look out for? Besides watching with great delight Landeskog and Murphy? On Kitcheners end.

JaysCyYoung
03-05-2011, 12:09 PM
Just to clarify: Frattin's from Edmonton, Alberta.


And guys, Irish, Jays, I am going to The Owen Sound game and the Plymouth game. Any guys to look out for? Besides watching with great delight Landeskog and Murphy? On Kitcheners end.

To be honest, the only draft eligible for 2011 on Owen Sound that I would consider to be worthwhile to watch would be Andrew Fritsch. He's a 6'0, 185 pound winger with good speed and offensive instincts who plays a strong puck distribution game but he can also finish. He's a good teammate who defends his peers and will drop the mitts if need be having been in three fisticuff sessions with opponents already this season, something scouts love to see from a forward who isn't particularly physically imposing. He can be scrappy and has 26 goals and 58 points in 54 games this season.

He could be a mid-third to fourth rounder and is currently ranked 96th amongst North American skaters for Central Scouting's mid-term rankings but I would have to think that his offensive production warrants a higher ranking.

IrishWolfman
03-05-2011, 12:21 PM
Just to clarify: Frattin's from Edmonton, Alberta.



To be honest, the only draft eligible for 2011 on Owen Sound that I would consider to be worthwhile to watch would be Andrew Fritsch. He's a 6'0, 185 pound winger with good speed and offensive instincts who plays a strong puck distribution game but he can also finish. He's a good teammate who defends his peers and will drop the mitts if need be having been in three fisticuff sessions with opponents already this season, something scouts love to see from a forward who isn't particularly physically imposing. He can be scrappy and has 26 goals and 58 points in 54 games this season.

He could be a mid-third to fourth rounder and is currently ranked 96th amongst North American skaters for Central Scouting's mid-term rankings but I would have to think that his offensive production warrants a higher ranking.

If Fritsch is 6'0", then he's the smallest six-footer I've ever met. 5'10" is probably closer. Fritsch doesn't have a high ceiling, it just helps to be playing with Garret Wilson and Joey Hishon. I also happen to know first hand that he wants to get the hell out of Owen Sound next offseason.

The only reason that Kitchener/Owen Sound game is going to be any good is because it's the battle for first in the Midwest. Owen Sound has never won the Division and the Rangers will be trying to keep that streak alive. The Attack have led the Midwest all year and could feasibly fumble the ball right at the end here.

teeds
03-05-2011, 12:21 PM
If he was two inches taller he would probably be considered a high first rounder eh? Six feet is small these days. Thanks, I thought McKegg and Blacker played for Owen Sound. Guess not huh?

JaysCyYoung
03-05-2011, 12:31 PM
If Fritsch is 6'0", then he's the smallest six-footer I've ever met. 5'10" is probably closer. Fritsch doesn't have a high ceiling, it just helps to be playing with Garret Wilson and Joey Hishon. I also happen to know first hand that he wants to get the hell out of Owen Sound next offseason.

The only reason that Kitchener/Owen Sound game is going to be any good is because it's the battle for first in the Midwest. Owen Sound has never won the Division and the Rangers will be trying to keep that streak alive. The Attack have led the Midwest all year and could feasibly fumble the ball right at the end here.

And the sky is blue. :p What player doesn't?

JaysCyYoung
03-05-2011, 12:32 PM
If he was two inches taller he would probably be considered a high first rounder eh? Six feet is small these days. Thanks, I thought McKegg and Blacker played for Owen Sound. Guess not huh?

McKegg plays for Erie and Blacker plays for Owen Sound. He was dealt there by Windsor after not getting enough ice-time on the Memorial Cup champions, which was problematic because he wanted the expanded role that most second round draft picks normally receive and he wasn't going to get that opportunity on a deep defence corps led by Ryan Ellis.

IrishWolfman
03-05-2011, 12:32 PM
If he was two inches taller he would probably be considered a high first rounder eh? Six feet is small these days. Thanks, I thought McKegg and Blacker played for Owen Sound. Guess not huh?

Blacker does. He's their #1 D.

McKegg plays for Erie.

teeds
03-05-2011, 12:36 PM
I want to build my own ice facility, so that I can train kids year round in hockey. Only problem is, if I charged enough JUST to even have it pay for itself, I would miss out on all the kids that would REALLY become off the dial.

Running a rink is shit ass expensive. NOT ONE, outdoor artificial rink in Ontario, outside of Toronto. NOT ONE. That is off the dial pathetic.



Blacker does. He's their #1 D. Excellent, thanks.

IrishWolfman
03-05-2011, 12:42 PM
I want to build my own ice facility, so that I can train kids year round in hockey. Only problem is, if I charged enough JUST to even have it pay for itself, I would miss out on all the kids that would REALLY become off the dial.

Running a rink is shit ass expensive. NOT ONE, outdoor artificial rink in Ontario, outside of Toronto. NOT ONE. That is off the dial pathetic.



Blacker does. He's their #1 D. Excellent, thanks.

Hell teeds, I'd come over for a game of shinny. Jays will warn you though, i almost caused a line brawl during a charity ball hockey game.

trujaysfan
03-05-2011, 01:08 PM
anybody else heading to the marlies vs bulldogs game today?

JaysCyYoung
03-05-2011, 02:58 PM
Hell teeds, I'd come over for a game of shinny. Jays will warn you though, i almost caused a line brawl during a charity ball hockey game.

You went after tree bitch after he kept high-sticking you. Then you frightened away all of the brown kids. Then I became frightened.

mbow30
03-05-2011, 03:07 PM
Oh I'm aware of the difference in size. That's going to be the key factor limiting Frattin from being as offensively productive as Knuble at the NHL level.

He won't be able to dominate much bigger men with large frames like he is doing to young kids in North Dakota that's for certain.

but that's pretty much the only reason that knuble became a 30 goal guy. he's big and strong, and learned how to stay on his skates attacking the net.

if frattin is to hack it in the nhl it'll have to be as a macarthur type.

unfortunately i don't think he has macarthur's foot speed. though he might have a better release.

the best comparable is probably jeremy williams. like jeremy williams he's smallish, not particularly fast, and relies on his killer release. he seems to be a little bit more physical than williams though. and i guess the truth is that if williams cleaned up his offensive game and demonstrated more of a willingness to play in the danger areas and fight the traffic in front, he could have developed into a decent enough third liner with some scoring punch.

zeke
03-05-2011, 03:59 PM
On the North Dakota webiste, he's listed at 6'0", 206lbs.

Still, though, not huge, and with his suspect skating and already being older than many of the players on our roster....well, I'm having a hard time getting too excited about this guy. Hopefully he proves me wrong and that hockey sense of his translates to higher levels.

hockeylover
03-05-2011, 04:36 PM
I agree about the footspeed. I'm not that worried about his size though. The guy in the air is Canes' Prospect Mark Alt and IIRC he's 6'3". Alt went in for the hit and just went flying.

http://mapleleafshotstove.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/frattin.jpeg

Either way, I don't think hoping a potential Hobey Baker candidate can be a 3rd liner someday is getting hopes too high.

IrishWolfman
03-05-2011, 04:40 PM
I agree about the footspeed. I'm not that worried about his size though. The guy in the air is Canes' Prospect Mark Alt and IIRC he's 6'3". Alt went in for the hit and just went flying.

http://mapleleafshotstove.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/frattin.jpeg

Either way, I don't think hoping a potential Hobey Baker candidate can be a 3rd liner someday is getting hopes too high.

I don't see any reason to say that Frattin isn't on the calibre of say Nashville's Blake Geoffrion in terms of prospect value.

hockeylover
03-05-2011, 05:19 PM
One goal, one assist for Frattin so far. 5 minutes into play. His 29th.

hockeylover
03-05-2011, 05:26 PM
I don't see any reason to say that Frattin isn't on the calibre of say Nashville's Blake Geoffrion in terms of prospect value.

Yeah, that was good enough for Hobey last year.

Blake Geoffrion's Sr Year 40 games 28 goals 22 assists 50 points
Matt Frattin's Sr Year 37 games 29 goals 20 assists 49 points

*Edit* 1 goal, 2 assists. Halfway through the 1st.

zeke
03-05-2011, 05:40 PM
Marlies - Bulldogs scoreless through 2.

24 saves for Scrivens so far.

soco22
03-05-2011, 06:13 PM
Hey hockeylover, big Joe was rated number 48 in thn.

zeke
03-05-2011, 07:01 PM
Scrivens gets the shutout, up to .929 for the year. A game or two away from qualifying for the ahl leaderboards. (best save percentage in the league is .930).

Scott gets two goals (one empty netter), Marlies win 2-0.

hockeylover
03-05-2011, 11:34 PM
Josh Nicholls 1 goal, 4 assists
Jamie Devane 2 goals, 1 assist
Matt Frattin 1 goal, 2 assists
Brad Ross 2 goals
Jake Gardiner 1 assist

GGpX
03-06-2011, 02:37 AM
Marlies - Bulldogs scoreless through 2.

24 saves for Scrivens so far.

Had an incredible game from what I heard on the radio. They were really raving about Scrivens's play.

Artnes
03-06-2011, 03:03 PM
Beauty snipe by Colborne

IrishWolfman
03-06-2011, 03:04 PM
Beauty snipe by Colborne

Just gorgeous. Big League release right there.

Artnes
03-06-2011, 03:10 PM
Scrivens is a solid goaltender. I've only seen him play a few games but he is gonna give Reimer a run for his money. Burke did well signing this guy

zeke
03-06-2011, 03:45 PM
kadri blows the 4 on 4 coverage in OT for the OTL.

scrivens continues to look too good for the AHL.

hockeylover
03-06-2011, 05:53 PM
McKegg 2 goals, 1 assist
Ryan 1 goal, 1 assist
D'Amigo 1 assist

hockeylover
03-08-2011, 09:31 PM
chansler New move from Kadri. Head fake, pump fake, backhand and in. Sweeet. #Marlies

zeke
03-08-2011, 09:49 PM
Scrivens finally qualified for the AHL goalie leaders with today's win.

Enters the list at #3: http://theahl.com/stats/statdisplay.php?type=top_goalies&subType=1&season_id=34&leagueId=4&lastActive=&singleSeason=&confId=0

Cojo
03-09-2011, 06:23 AM
Can't help but be excited over those stats.

number17
03-09-2011, 09:44 AM
Scrivens was pretty amazing in the W last night ... actually he has been pretty amazing the whole time he's been called up from ECHL.

Scrivens, Reimer, plus you still got an outside shot with Rynnas who was amazingly hot for a month in Nov ... I can at least feel good about our future in G.

Alfamale
03-09-2011, 10:01 AM
I can at least feel good about our future in G. reimer (at 22) is enough for me to feel good -- the rest is icing.

Mega
03-09-2011, 11:37 AM
The Goalie Guild guy says Reimer looks like he desperately needs a rest, so I'm excited to see we may have a *competent* backup waiting in the wings.

number17
03-09-2011, 12:49 PM
... for next season I guess.

Giguere will be the bench warmer this season ...

hockeylover
03-10-2011, 05:42 PM
Frattin named WCHA Player of the Year, first team all-WCHAA

http://undhockey.areavoices.com/?p=87264