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hairnova
07-05-2010, 08:57 PM
LeBrun says 3.0 total. Weird how many different numbers we're hearing for this.

Yeah...this is a strange one.

Means he made more last year than he's going to over the next two...

Habsy
07-05-2010, 09:41 PM
See that makes more sense. Clark is a $1.5M defender or there abouts.

MyNameIsJonas
07-05-2010, 09:49 PM
Am i the only one who likes Brett Clark?....1.3 and 1.7 is an ultra steal.

hockeylover
07-05-2010, 09:50 PM
TSNRyanRishaug

Hall bonuses212,500 for any of20 goals35 assists60ptsTop 6 fw ice time (min42gp)Top 3 F in plus minus on team(875max A bonus)

mikedumar
07-05-2010, 10:19 PM
ilya really wants that team !

to come out and get the media to shout out his new numbers and threaten to sign with the devils is really a sign he is wanting this other team to commit to him and that he is willing to come down and reason with them

the other team will not do anything more than 5 years, alot closer then you think ladies and germs

MyNameIsJonas
07-05-2010, 10:21 PM
ilya really wants that team !

to come out and get the media to shout out his new numbers and threaten to sign with the devils is really a sign he is wanting this other team to commit to him and that he is willing to come down and reason with them

the other team will not do anything more than 5 years, alot closer then you think ladies and germs

I assume it hinges on Jon Klemm agreeing to terms first?...and an immediate trade for Jack Skille?

Pronger84
07-05-2010, 10:21 PM
ilya really wants that team !

to come out and get the media to shout out his new numbers and threaten to sign with the devils is really a sign he is wanting this other team to commit to him and that he is willing to come down and reason with them

the other team will not do anything more than 5 years, alot closer then you think ladies and germs

Which other team?

Volcanologist
07-05-2010, 10:29 PM
ilya really wants that team !

to come out and get the media to shout out his new numbers and threaten to sign with the devils is really a sign he is wanting this other team to commit to him and that he is willing to come down and reason with them

the other team will not do anything more than 5 years, alot closer then you think ladies and germs

Yep, the Avs definitely have the cap space alright.

LeafGm
07-05-2010, 10:54 PM
ilya really wants that team !

to come out and get the media to shout out his new numbers and threaten to sign with the devils is really a sign he is wanting this other team to commit to him and that he is willing to come down and reason with them

the other team will not do anything more than 5 years, alot closer then you think ladies and germs
And Owen Nolan wants to re-sign with the Leafs too, right mike?

Killer93
07-05-2010, 10:57 PM
Leafs should sign Mogilny

JaysCyYoung
07-05-2010, 10:59 PM
Bring back Scott Pearson.

Preston_Mizzi
07-05-2010, 11:14 PM
dumars batting average is worse than eklunds

hockeylover
07-05-2010, 11:19 PM
Real_ESPNLeBrun: NHLPA announces 31 players filed for salary arbitration today: James Wisniewski, Ben Eager, Andrew Ladd, Clarke MacArthur, Greg Campbell, Blake Wheeler, Tim Kennedy, Ian White, Antti Niemi, Jared Boll, Anton Stralman, Fabian Brunnstrom, Derek Meech, Gilbert Brule, Jeff Drouin-DesLauriers, Jean-Francois Jacques, Brad Richardson, Mark Fraser, Matt Moulson, Daniel Girardi, Chris Campoli, Peter Regin, Daniel Carcillo, Cam Janssen, Nate Thompson, Tanner Glass, Jannik Hansen, Mason Raymond, Eric Fehr, Tomas Fleischmann, Jeff Schultz.

Can't wait to see the arbitrator award Regin the Vanek type contract he so deserves. :sarcasm

Metalleaf
07-05-2010, 11:21 PM
Matt Moulson's gonna get so overpaid.

Pronger84
07-05-2010, 11:29 PM
Matt Moulson's gonna get so overpaid.

Of course he is , Islanders have to spend $9M just to make it to the cap floor. LOL

Rumpleforeskin
07-05-2010, 11:38 PM
maybe the islanders would be interested in finger and grabovski

mikedumar
07-06-2010, 12:06 AM
well sorry princesses for not being able to get what you need

ill clearly admit to which i did right from the start i dont know much as i havent heard much

but some things are common sense burke will not give contracts out longer than 5 years, burke doesnt have a hate for russians, and in fact ilya is quite the player that would fit into burkes team format, you also got to be insane to think burke doesnt have an interest in ilya

then you have to take into consideration, the amount of times he is flatly denied things only to know quite the opposite is true, its also well known he got burned on the tavares and sedin situation so for him to come out and proclaim things will not occur again

now for ilya he loves the spotlight, he has been quoted as saying he wants to play in arenas that will be full and that they have an interest in hockey, the kid is a star not only in his head but on the ice, toronto has one of the biggest russian communities in north america and it is quite known amongst hockey players, the kid isnt about money otherwise he would e in the khl right now, and its quite amusing he has turned down three teams right now all that would throw the bank at him yet dont give him the hockey spotlight he wants

la said it clearly the other nite we cant give him what he wants...........

MyNameIsJonas
07-06-2010, 12:07 AM
fortune cookie>dumar.

mikedumar
07-06-2010, 12:08 AM
fortune cookie>dumar.

yawn...... childhood antics should stay on another messageboard

Pronger84
07-06-2010, 12:09 AM
well sorry princesses for not being able to get what you need

ill clearly admit to which i did right from the start i dont know much as i havent heard much

but some things are common sense burke will not give contracts out longer than 5 years, burke doesnt have a hate for russians, and in fact ilya is quite the player that would fit into burkes team format, you also got to be insane to think burke doesnt have an interest in ilya

then you have to take into consideration, the amount of times he is flatly denied things only to know quite the opposite is true, its also well known he got burned on the tavares and sedin situation so for him to come out and proclaim things will not occur again

now for ilya he loves the spotlight, he has been quoted as saying he wants to play in arenas that will be full and that they have an interest in hockey, the kid is a star not only in his head but on the ice, toronto has one of the biggest russian communities in north america and it is quite known amongst hockey players, the kid isnt about money otherwise he would e in the khl right now, and its quite amusing he has turned down three teams right now all that would throw the bank at him yet dont give him the hockey spotlight he wants

la said it clearly the other nite we cant give him what he wants...........

If Kovalchuck wanted to be a leaf and Burke wanted him here, he would be here by now. I'm not sure what Ilya's game is, clearly its not money otherwise he would have gone to the Islanders or stayed in Atlanta. Its not about winning the cup or he would have signed with the kings.

mikedumar
07-06-2010, 12:11 AM
If Kovalchuck wanted to be a leaf and Burke wanted him here, he would be here by now. I'm not sure what Ilya's game is, clearly its not money otherwise he would have gone to the Islanders or stayed in Atlanta. Its not about winning the cup or he would have signed with the kings.

ilya loves the spotlight he also wants security meaning longevity in a contract, and burke isnt a gm to give those long term deals out, 5 years max youll ever see from burke

MyNameIsJonas
07-06-2010, 12:20 AM
You do this every time Dumar, create a nonsense rumor that starts with a ridiculous guessing game, and never have you been right. No one takes you seriously, and shame on you for folling those stupid enough to believe your dreck.

corksens
07-06-2010, 09:17 AM
ilya loves the spotlight he also wants security meaning longevity in a contract, and burke isnt a gm to give those long term deals out, 5 years max youll ever see from burkeWhich is a fault of Burke.

Hell, if Kovalchuk is available and thinking about your team, your loosen your stance on some arbitrary deal maximum.

Burke is an idiot for not giving it his all in trying to get Kovalchuk.

blkngldbabe
07-06-2010, 09:21 AM
The guy is going to balk his way out of the NHL if he's not careful.

j_15
07-06-2010, 09:40 AM
You do this every time Dumar, create a nonsense rumor that starts with a ridiculous guessing game, and never have you been right. No one takes you seriously, and shame on you for folling those stupid enough to believe your dreck.

I seem to remember Dumar being right a couple of times back in the day on the old boards.

Now I just wish he was right. But I'm doubting there was ever any legs in a Kovy to Toronto situation.

Isaac25
07-06-2010, 09:52 AM
I'm guessing Kovy might feel a little knock to his ego seeing how none of the traditional hockey powers made a play for him...none of the current choices are really that appealing to a guy that wants to combo of being paid plus a winning/hockey environment.

BG
07-06-2010, 10:24 AM
Reda said it best, the way the league works now a 10 year deal could see any team march through a rebuild. If you want to win, you need either shorter term (mobility) or smaller caphit to allow a team to add good players around you.

I'm near certain that Burke has been in contact with Kovy's agent at every step and is working any/all angles to get Kovalchuk in a Leafs sweater at a reasonable term/price.

hockeylover
07-06-2010, 01:36 PM
RealKyper

Blues Doug Armstrong wastes no time getting ex- Canadian playoff hero Jaro Halak signed, sealed delivered. Done 4 yrs 15M. 3.75M cap/hit

Metalleaf
07-06-2010, 01:39 PM
Wow, brilliant deal for the Blues.

Artnes
07-06-2010, 01:42 PM
This could come back to haunt the Habs. (I hope)

zeke
07-06-2010, 01:43 PM
...unless he turns into Toskala II

Artnes
07-06-2010, 01:45 PM
He does have an awesome playoff run up on Toskala which is a good start but it could very well happen.

If Payne doesn't ride him to much (65+ games) Halak should be ok. He may burn out otherwise

Montana
07-06-2010, 01:46 PM
Kim Johnnson is still suffering from the concussion he had last year, doesn't plan to play this season.

zeke
07-06-2010, 01:50 PM
He does have an awesome playoff run up on Toskala which is a good start but it could very well happen.



Didn't Toskala have a great playoff run with SJ? wasn't that why he got so hyped?

of course, halak has a better track record regardless.

Artnes
07-06-2010, 01:53 PM
I think it was due the time he stole the starting job from Nabakov and went 26-10 in 38 games in 06/07

MyNameIsJonas
07-06-2010, 02:17 PM
this halak deal is great for any Niemi talks.

Montana
07-06-2010, 05:14 PM
JeffMarek Nashville Predators sign Sergei Kostitsyn to one-year $550,000 contract.

Montana
07-06-2010, 05:15 PM
JeffMarek Rangers sign Ryan McDonagh

blacksheep
07-06-2010, 05:16 PM
JeffMarek Nashville Predators sign Sergei Kostitsyn to one-year $550,000 contract.
Is that WITH or WITHOUT the mob connections?

Montana
07-06-2010, 05:36 PM
Vancouver's home arena, ''GM Place'' will now be known as ''Rogers Arena'' as Rogers have purchase the naming rights.

Metalleaf
07-06-2010, 05:41 PM
Rogers Arena <=> Rogers Centre?

MindzEye
07-06-2010, 06:41 PM
Vancouver media throws a fit about Toronto in 5.....4......3.....

Volcanologist
07-06-2010, 11:43 PM
30 minutes left in July SIXTH.

Kovalchuk still hasn't signed.

What the hell is going on? Did the guy not spend one second thinking about where he would go until July 1??

Metalleaf
07-06-2010, 11:46 PM
He's got Lebronitis.

Montana
07-06-2010, 11:48 PM
hopefully he's waiting for Burke to step up?....



But Burke balked at the kind of mega-contract numbers that such a deal would require and insists the Leafs aren’t involved.

“That is, unless the bottom falls right out of the market and he circles back around,” Burke said.


The bottom has slightly fallen out of the market.....at least down from the massive 10 year, 100 million type deals originally rumored.

Hopefully the delay in Kovalchuk signing.....is him "circling back around"





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LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 12:53 AM
Great quote - where from?

Montana
07-07-2010, 12:58 AM
Saturday's Toronto Sun.....

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/07/02/14595191.html

Volcanologist
07-07-2010, 01:03 AM
If it's down to 7 years and ~60 Burke has to do it. Kovalchuk would be 34 when the deal's up, right at the end of his prime years.

50 goal scorer, sitting right there. All we have to do is pick up the phone.

Come on Burke.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:06 AM
Kinda stale at this point, but it does indicate that price and term are the main holdbacks for Burke.

If he gets down to 5 yrs and $35M or maybe 6 yrs and $42M, maybe there's a deal to be made.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:15 AM
Kinda stale at this point


Quite the opposite.......if he just said it, it wouldn't mean much. It's the fact that since he's said it, the rumored contract offers for Kovalchuk have dropped from 100 million over 10 years, to 7 years and 60 million, that give Burke's statement it's value.


The contract Kovalchuk is looking at right now, is 3 years closer to what Burke would be willing to give him, and 40 million dollars cheaper.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:15 AM
“That is, unless the bottom falls right out of the market and he circles back around,” Burke said.


BOOYAKASHA!

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:29 AM
You just know the Wings or Pens are gonna swoop in and grab him on some cheap deal now...

Pronger84
07-07-2010, 02:48 AM
I think Burke should just sign Kovalchuck, hes the type of player the leafs have been lacking which is a big bodied fast skating pure goal scoring machine who will put fans in their seats. Kovalchuck wants money, playing in a big market, and a chance to win the cup, if he comes here he will be 3/3.

axlsalinger
07-07-2010, 03:31 AM
I haven't been too critical of Burke for not wanting to give in to any ridiculous demands Kovalchuk has made. However, if he is seriously considering accepting 7/60, Burke should absolutely put a call in and offer to match this number, and find out if he has any interest in playing in Toronto.

LeafGm
07-07-2010, 04:32 AM
Yep. I can understand the hesitation with a 10 year deal, even if I don't agree with it, but if you can pick up a guy that'll automatically become the best pure goal-scorer this 93 year-old franchise has ever had for 7 years/60 million, then get it the hell done IMMEDIATELY.

Ilya Kovalchuk - Tyler Bozak - Phil Kessel
Nikolai Kulemin - Nazem Kadri - Kris Versteeg

Now THERE's your top-6 forward problem solved. We could have two guys with 50 goal potential on one freaking line.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 07:28 AM
Of course, there's a bit of a cap issue at this point even after getting rid of Finger + Grabovski. We'd be at around 5 million over so someone would have to be moved out. And yeah, I included all the guys on ELCs at their cap hit including bonuses - we do have the bonus cushion room to play with but as we know, that would just carry over to next year in the form of dead space like the 1.4 million we have this year.

Matrim
07-07-2010, 10:28 AM
Yep. I can understand the hesitation with a 10 year deal, even if I don't agree with it, but if you can pick up a guy that'll automatically become the best pure goal-scorer this 93 year-old franchise has ever had for 7 years/60 million, then get it the hell done IMMEDIATELY.

Nikolai Kulemin - Tyler Bozak - Phil Kessel
Ilya Kovalchuk - Nazem Kadri - Kris Versteeg

Now THERE's your top-6 forward problem solved. We could have two guys with 50 goal potential on one freaking line.

Fixed, theres no way both Kessel and Kovalchuk stay on the same line, that wouldn't work, they both play the same kind of game.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 10:38 AM
Yep. I can understand the hesitation with a 10 year deal, even if I don't agree with it, but if you can pick up a guy that'll automatically become the best pure goal-scorer this 93 year-old franchise has ever had for 7 years/60 million, then get it the hell done IMMEDIATELY.

Ilya Kovalchuk - Tyler Bozak - Phil Kessel
Nikolai Kulemin - Nazem Kadri - Kris Versteeg

Now THERE's your top-6 forward problem solved. We could have two guys with 50 goal potential on one freaking line.

Man, I love that top 6.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 10:43 AM
It'd take a bit of dancing to get under the cap there, that's for sure.

Given To Fly
07-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Then we trade for Savard and have a top line of:

Kovalchuk - Savard - Kessel

If we can get Kovy on a 5-6 year deal, we gotta do it.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 10:45 AM
Then we trade for Savard and have a top line of:

Kovalchuk - Savard - Kessel

If we can get Kovy on a 5-6 year deal, we gotta do it.

Salary cap guys, salary cap.

UWHabs
07-07-2010, 10:49 AM
I don't even see how you fit Kovalchuk into the cap, unless if you can find a taker for Giggy.

Given To Fly
07-07-2010, 10:57 AM
Salary cap guys, salary cap.

haha yeah, but as Savard has had obvious success with both forwards, I figured why not.

I am not pushing for a Savard trade anyway, but just throwing it out there

Volcanologist
07-07-2010, 11:01 AM
Salary cap guys, salary cap.

So trade another defenceman and give more minutes to Schenn and Gunnar.

Teams that want to win championships find a way to go after the best talent.

teeds
07-07-2010, 11:01 AM
This guy, by the way, is a lot LESS entertaining than Mogilny was. He is a big guy who is sort of a Hossa with a bit more shake. He is not a jitterbug, who can literally make a dman shit their pants and move six inches one way, and have him go the other.

Kaberle, Bozak and Kessel are the players that are entertaining. And if Kadri brings the facewash......................................... well, we got something to watch at least.

zeke
07-07-2010, 11:02 AM
It'd take a bit of dancing to get under the cap there, that's for sure.


Just a little bit of dancing.......getting Jiggy with it, to be precise.

Volcanologist
07-07-2010, 11:04 AM
Just a little bit of dancing.......getting Jiggy with it, to be precise.

Heh. Nice.

zeke
07-07-2010, 11:05 AM
This guy, by the way, is a lot LESS entertaining than Mogilny was. He is a big guy who is sort of a Hossa with a bit more shake. He is not a jitterbug, who can literally make a dman shit their pants and move six inches one way, and have him go the other. .

Teeds, you are wrong.

Kovalchuk is Mogilny with 40 extra lbs, a bigger slapshot, and a meanstreak.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 11:06 AM
So trade another defenceman and give more minutes to Schenn and Gunnar.

Teams that want to win championships find a way to go after the best talent.

That's actually still not enough. If we moved Kaberle for Savard, we'd be 3 million over after Grabs/Finger left. You'd have to move someone like Beauchemin as well and not take any salary back. Or Giguere I guess.

zeke
07-07-2010, 11:07 AM
this vid takes a while to get going, but fastforward and start at the 1:25 mark.


YouTube- Ilya Kovalchuk Tribute

Volcanologist
07-07-2010, 11:25 AM
That's actually still not enough. If we moved Kaberle for Savard, we'd be 3 million over after Grabs/Finger left. You'd have to move someone like Beauchemin as well and not take any salary back. Or Giguere I guess.

Savard, for a variety of reasons, is not currently worth Kaberle. I don't see that happening.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 11:28 AM
Savard, for a variety of reasons, is not currently worth Kaberle. I don't see that happening.

I didn't say I saw it happening, I'm saying what it would take financially to bring in Savard and Kovalchuk...

If you have Kovalchuk, Savard, dump Finger, dump Grabs... you're 8 million over. One defenseman being moved wouldn't be enough.

BG
07-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Kovalchuk (8.5) - Savard (4.0) - Kessel (5.4)
Versteeg (3.0) - Bozak (3.7) - Armstrong (3.0)
Caputi (0.8) - Kadri (1.7) - Sjostrom (0.7)
Brown (0.5) - Mitchell (0.7) - Orr (1.0)

Phaneuf (6.5) - Beauchemin (3.8)
XXXX () - Komisarek (4.5)
Gunnarsson (0.8) - Schenn (2.9)

Giguere (6.0)
Gustavsson (1.3)

TOTAL: $58.8mil

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 11:42 AM
Kovalchuk (8.5) - Savard (4.0) - Kessel (5.4)
Versteeg (3.0) - Bozak (3.7) - Kadri (1.7)
Sjostrom (0.7) - XXXX () - Armstrong (3.0)
Brown (0.5) - Mitchell (0.7) - Orr (1.0)

Phaneuf (6.5) - Beauchemin (3.8)
XXXX () - Komisarek (4.5)
Gunnarsson (0.8) - Schenn (2.9)

Giguere (6.0)
Gustavsson (1.3)

TOTAL: $58mil

Where is Kulemin's 2.35 million, Tucker's 1 million, and our 1.4 million bonus carry-over?

BG
07-07-2010, 11:51 AM
Where is Kulemin's 2.35 million, Tucker's 1 million, and our 1.4 million bonus carry-over?

I dunno.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 11:55 AM
i can't wait for this kovalchuk madness to end....get ther est of the league running again.

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 11:58 AM
Rob Niedermayer signs with Buffalo...at least its news....

Habsy
07-07-2010, 11:59 AM
Savard, for a variety of reasons, is not currently worth Kaberle. I don't see that happening.

I agree with this. All things being equal I think he is but due to the circumstances, no way. It's boxing day on Savard.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 11:59 AM
Rob Niedermayer signs with Buffalo...at least its news....

Is he going to play D? Who the eff is playing D on that team? Myers with 45 minutes a game?

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 12:00 PM
It all depends if Chiarelli can dump his problems, like THomas Ryder or Sturm.

I dont think he will know that answer til the malcontent Russian signs his deal.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 12:01 PM
Is he going to play D? Who the eff is playing D on that team? Myers with 45 minutes a game?

They signed Jordan Leopold.....


though i assume that doesnt quite answer your question

soco22
07-07-2010, 12:02 PM
My buddy at work made me sad.

Noted that if we didn't trade for Kessel, we could likely have Kova and Tyler/Taylor for about a few million more than what Kessel is making - based on these market conditions.

Volcanologist
07-07-2010, 12:04 PM
I agree with this. All things being equal I think he is but due to the circumstances, no way. It's boxing day on Savard.

If it weren't for the concussion, the NTC, and the fact that Chiarelli has to dump him for cap room, he's absolutely worth Kabs in terms of talent and has a good contract despite the 7 year thing. we're talking about one of the top #1 centres in the league.

Unfortunately for the Bruins those three factors mean that Chia will be lucky to get anything of any substance, though. I think toronto's his only option if he wants the cap room right now, and Burke's not going to make the move unless he gets Savvy for a song.

zeke
07-07-2010, 12:12 PM
My buddy at work made me sad.

Noted that if we didn't trade for Kessel, we could likely have Kova and Tyler/Taylor for about a few million more than what Kessel is making - based on these market conditions.

Kova/Tyler will cost more than double what Kessel costs this year. Approaching $13 mil in caphit for the both of them.

And Kova has nothing to do with Kessel anyways - we can sign Kova if we want.

zeke
07-07-2010, 12:14 PM
I'm souring on the Savard idea.

Not sure I want him.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 12:17 PM
How on earth would Kovalchuk/Seguin cost $13M? Are you assuming Kovalchuk at $11M? Usually entry level, bonus laden contracts end up in the $2M range.

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 12:18 PM
Seguin's probably making the rookie max, which is $3M

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 12:19 PM
Usually entry level, bonus laden contracts end up in the $2M range.

No, 2nd overall players are usually upwards of 3. Seguin is likely to get max bonuses IMO, which would put him at 3.75 million.

Even Duchene, Kane, and Schenn are 3+.

leafman101
07-07-2010, 12:21 PM
Seguin will for sure get $3.75.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 12:22 PM
The Score is reporting that Ilya Kovalchuk.........is close to signing with Ska St Petersberg on the KHL

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 12:25 PM
I think Burke should just sign Kovalchuck, hes the type of player the leafs have been lacking which is a big bodied fast skating pure goal scoring machine who will put fans in their seats. Kovalchuck wants money, playing in a big market, and a chance to win the cup, if he comes here he will be 3/3.

You realize you're a fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs, right?

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 12:26 PM
well his dad just got rid of the season tickets....so.....

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 12:29 PM
FriedmanHNIC RT @helenenothelen Kings and Kovalchuk are "re-engaged" Lombardi says. Kovy to make first counter-offer today.

zeke
07-07-2010, 12:30 PM
How on earth would Kovalchuk/Seguin cost $13M? Are you assuming Kovalchuk at $11M? Usually entry level, bonus laden contracts end up in the $2M range.

Seguin will be getting the rookie max of $3.75.

The lowest we've heard for Kovy is $8.57 from Jersey.

That's $12.32 at the very least. But Kovy could easily get more than that.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 12:55 PM
Players have to hit those bonuses you know. Very few rookies have hit all their bonuses. That said, it's a decent bet Seguin could, especially on a team like Toronto where he would get a ton of ice time. I see your point.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 12:56 PM
As for Kovalchuk, something happened in NJ or the reporter for the Post prematurely ejaculated.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 12:59 PM
Players have to hit those bonuses you know. Very few rookies have hit all their bonuses. That said, it's a decent bet Seguin could, especially on a team like Toronto where he would get a ton of ice time. I see your point.

Well, teams still only have room under the bonus cushion for about 4.5 million in bonuses and those carry over like we've seen already (our 1.4 million carryover). You get a few ELC deals on a team and that can add up VERY quickly.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 01:00 PM
Wow, Nabokov to the KHL for 6 million per year/4 years.

wyshynski

So says @Jay_Gold_: "CONFIRMED: SKA St. Petersburg (#KHL) - (G) Evgeni Nabokov - 4 years - $6 M. per season."

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:03 PM
**** man, if the Devils are out of it and he's talking to the Kings, why aren't we in there too??

Kills me that the one thing we need is a first line left winger, and the best one is out there as a UFA who'd fit perfectly with our core, and we don't want him, and worse, we're trying to trade Kaberle to get someone worse than him!

Damn.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:08 PM
and up goes Giguere's trade value.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:10 PM
Who said the Devils are out?

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 01:15 PM
dchesnokov: Reports in Russia indicate that Nik Zherdev signed a contract with the Flyers.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 01:16 PM
Nabby likely left the NHL cause there was no interest around the league in a 6M$ goalie.

Giggy's trade status stays the same, not on the block. No teams in the mix.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:16 PM
that is very, very interesting, actually.

Giggy for Gagne - get it DONE.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 01:16 PM
dchesnokov: Reports in Russia indicate that Nik Zherdev signed a contract with the Flyers.

How?
Why?

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:17 PM
Nabby likely left the NHL cause there was no interest around the league in a 6M$ goalie.

what a sharp mind you have.


Giggy's trade status stays the same, not on the block. No teams in the mix.

Agreed - no team in the NHL needs goaltending right now. Not one.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 01:19 PM
what a sharp mind you have.



Agreed - no team in the NHL needs goaltending right now. Not one.


A 6M starter...no no they dont.

and if Philly wanted one they couldve had Nabokov.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:19 PM
I think I actually had a dream last night that we did get Gagne....

UWHabs
07-07-2010, 01:20 PM
what a sharp mind you have.



Agreed - no team in the NHL needs goaltending right now. Not one.

Not a 6M backup. His value is the same as it was last year - he's worth a crappy player on an equally bad contract.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:24 PM
Giguere is not a crappy player, and would be an upgrade in goal for a good number of teams at the moment.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:25 PM
Giguere's value will be maximized at the trade deadline.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:26 PM
A team that is on the verge of winning a Cup, but doesn't have a goalie, could definitely take a very wise gamble on Giguere.

For instance, take the Capitals. I think adding Giguere would have won them the Cup last year and probably this year too.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:27 PM
Giguere's value will be maximized at the trade deadline.

Not if we're in the thick of a playoff race.

He'll only be traded if we're totally out of it like we were this past season.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:28 PM
How do you figure?

at the deadline, any team trading for him would already have to have a good starter in place, just to be in contention, so anyone looking would just be looking for a backup.

and at the deadline, their roster would have been performing well enough to be in contention, which means they wouldn't be willing to give up any solid pieces off their roster.

we might get a 2nd rounder at the deadline. we might get a Gagne or Smyth now.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:28 PM
Not if we're in the thick of a playoff race.

He'll only be traded if we're totally out of it like we were this past season.


Nah, he'll be dealt if the deal makes us a better team in the long run.......period.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:32 PM
How do you figure?

at the deadline, any team trading for him would already have to have a good starter in place, just to be in contention, so anyone looking would just be looking for a backup.


I disagree.........we've seen plenty of teams that have been a playoff team, but had either (a) injuries to their #1 goalie, or (b) a mediocre goalie as their starter.


There will be a market for a goalie of Giguere's level, who's on an expiring contract.



and at the deadline, their roster would have been performing well enough to be in contention, which means they wouldn't be willing to give up any solid pieces off their roster.

Who said we need anything off their roster?



we might get a 2nd rounder at the deadline. we might get a Gagne or Smyth now.


We'd get more at the deadline, than we would now........I don't believe we'd get Gagne or Smyth right now for him. (and personally, I wouldn't even want Smyth)

sensbk
07-07-2010, 01:33 PM
Wow, Nabokov to the KHL for 6 million per year/4 years.

wyshynski

So says @Jay_Gold_: "CONFIRMED: SKA St. Petersburg (#KHL) - (G) Evgeni Nabokov - 4 years - $6 M. per season."

That's wild, the market for goalies has gone to shit with Niemi winning the cup. Too bad this news is overshadowed by;

TSNRyanRishaug Senators signed corey locke.. 2 year 2way nhl deal. Oilers were right there, choice #2.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:34 PM
I wouldn't pass up an opportunity now just in hopes of getting a 2nd rounder at the deadline.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:38 PM
If I believed the opportunities you put forth were realistic, I might buy into that......we aren't getting offers of Gagne or Smyth for him though.

His trade value, will be maximized at the trade deadline when his remaining cap hit, is next to nothing.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:38 PM
Nah, he'll be dealt if the deal makes us a better team in the long run.......period.

No, he won't. Burke wants to win now. He's not gonna trade Giguere for a 2nd or 3rd at the deadline because it'll make us better in the "long run." He's gonna want to keep his goalie tandem intact en route to the playoffs.

And Zeke, I'm kinda surprised you're so interested in Gagne and Smyth, both great players, but older guys who have broken down more times than we can count over the last several years. I think they're both good deadline pickups, but not as pieces of our core.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:41 PM
If we're a bubble team, Burke's going to keep his eye on the big picture.....not the short term.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:46 PM
we'll get a 2nd round pick for Giggy at the deadline.

If you think that is a price worth deciding to hold onto Giggy no matter what, well, that's fine, but I disagree.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:47 PM
My point is solely that his value would be higher then, than it is now.........if a 2nd is the most we'd get for him at the deadline, it's more than we'd get for him now.

zeke
07-07-2010, 01:52 PM
I disagree.

Right now, rosters aren't set, and teams can move big salaries players in and out.

At the deadline, rosters are set, and teams - especially teams playing well enough to add pieces - have a much harder time of it.

Right now we could get a good if overpriced player.

At the deadline, we'll get a 2nd round pick.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 01:53 PM
His value is going to be his value regardless of when. Right now a team with its goalie situation unsettled might give you something for him, and at the deadline a team that loses its goalie will give you the same thing for him.

The only thing that matters is that we won't be seeing that value if we are competitive this year, which we will be.

Montana
07-07-2010, 01:57 PM
wrong.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 02:09 PM
You definitely are.

Montana
07-07-2010, 02:13 PM
you do wrong, like Charles Manson does crazy.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 02:17 PM
No actually, batshit crazy is zeke's Giguere fetish.

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 02:21 PM
LoF's blind love for Kulemin is pretty up there with zeke's attempts to trade Giguere and his love of Mitchell.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 02:24 PM
LoF loves everything blue and white.

probably thinks Irwin is a stud.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 02:33 PM
Real_ESPNLeBrun

Just spoke with Evgeni Nabokov who confirmed to ESPN.com he's signed a four-year contract with SKA St. Petersburg

Habsy
07-07-2010, 02:37 PM
LoF loves everything blue and white.

probably thinks Irwin is a stud.

Does that include Smurf cum?

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 02:43 PM
We all like smurf cum habsy.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 03:01 PM
Haha, you homos. I'm the last guy who could be called a Leaf homer.

How many Leafs have I absolutely detested over the years, before during and after their reigns of terror? Blake ring a bell? How about Kubina? I could go on.

Just because I've had/have my favorites doesn't mean I like all that is Leaf.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 03:02 PM
LoF's blind love for Kulemin is pretty up there with zeke's attempts to trade Giguere and his love of Mitchell.

I'd say that seeing what Kulemin was capable of long before anyone else here could would make you guys the blind ones, not me.

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 03:07 PM
Haha, you homos. I'm the last guy who could be called a Leaf homer.

How many Leafs have I absolutely detested over the years, before during and after their reigns of terror? Blake ring a bell? How about Kubina? I could go on.

Just because I've had/have my favorites doesn't mean I like all that is Leaf.

I will agree with this. You've generally made it well-known when you've disliked a player so for people to say that you're simply a Leafs homer who loves all the players is disingenous to say the least. You are selective like most people.


I'd say that seeing what Kulemin was capable of long before anyone else here could would make you guys the blind ones, not me.

I wouldn't say that at all (at least for myself). If you go back in the archives you can see that my prediction for his rookie season back in 2008-09 was 21 goals and 39 points. He has yet to hit either of those marks in each of his first two seasons. I was impressed with how well-developed his overall game at both ends of the ice became by the end of last season but I do not look upon him nearly as favourably as I did prior to him entering the league.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 03:09 PM
That's because you had unrealistic expectations of him right out of the gate.

He will take a few years to fully deliver on the potential he has.

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 03:11 PM
So you agree that Simmonds will be an excellent player down the road as well then?

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 03:41 PM
Joe Corvo re-signs in Carolina 2 year $4.5M

zeke
07-07-2010, 03:44 PM
$4.5x2 or $4.5/2 ?

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 03:45 PM
$2M 1 year and $2.5M the next.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 04:31 PM
So you agree that Simmonds will be an excellent player down the road as well then?

How in the world did you get that out of my post?

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 04:39 PM
He will take a few years to fully deliver on the potential he has.

Kulemin is a full two years older than Simmonds is and already possessed experience playing against men in a full-fledged professional league prior to his leap to the NHL. If you expect a player that was 22 before he got a taste of NHL action to continue to improve after two seasons where he is now a week away from being 24 it's only logical to expect that a player who was 20 years old in his first season and coming out of a junior non-men's league will also require time to develop. Just trying to maintain some consistency here, right?

PlayerToBeNamedLater
07-07-2010, 04:45 PM
$4.5x2 or $4.5/2 ?

for some reason, this post brought me back to when we signed finger.

when I first read the Fingers contract, I thought it was 4 yrs / 3.5 mill for a 875K cap hit. And I was thinking, that's not bad for a bottom pair defender.

boy how wrong was I

Montana
07-07-2010, 05:36 PM
helenenothelen: Kings believed to have gotten a proposal from Kovalchuk, but nothing has been settled and no response is imminent. the saga continues..."

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 05:45 PM
Kulemin is a full two years older than Simmonds is and already possessed experience playing against men in a full-fledged professional league prior to his leap to the NHL. If you expect a player that was 22 before he got a taste of NHL action to continue to improve after two seasons where he is now a week away from being 24 it's only logical to expect that a player who was 20 years old in his first season and coming out of a junior non-men's league will also require time to develop. Just trying to maintain some consistency here, right?

I don't know what your obsession is with bringing up Kulemin every second and trying to compare Simmonds to him.

I never said Simmonds wouldn't improve. I never said he's a bad player. He's a third liner with top potential of a second liner. He is nowhere near the talent level that some of you think he is, and he is not even remotely adequate as the main player coming back in a Kaberle deal.

That's the only point you need to focus on.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
07-07-2010, 05:48 PM
I never said Simmonds wouldn't improve. I never said he's a bad player. He's a third liner with top potential of a second liner. He is nowhere near the talent level that some of you think he is, and he is not even remotely adequate as the main player coming back in a Kaberle deal.

.

He's already produced like a 2nd liner at 21 years old -- with 3rd line minutes and no PP time.

His top potential is 1st liner.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 05:52 PM
He's already produced like a 2nd liner at 21 years old -- with 3rd line minutes and no PP time.

His top potential is 1st liner.

Not to mention he is as gritty as they come.

I would cut off the left ball of a friend i sort of cared about to land Simmonds on Chicago

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 05:59 PM
Well, I'll have to stake my watching him play live a couple of dozen times against your having watched him on tv once or twice.

And if we're going to go for potential, I'd much rather get Brayden Schenn as the centerpiece than Simmonds, even though I'm not that high on Schenn myself.

You can think otherwise all you want, but Burke would never part with Kaberle for Simmonds. Ever. It's a ridiculously poor return.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
07-07-2010, 06:03 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_N5W01_2wXSk/S4W6STVahCI/AAAAAAAADX4/k6s5zORiJ7g/s400/IMG_2746Jesse+Jackson+Wayne+Simmonds.jpg

PlayerToBeNamedLater
07-07-2010, 06:05 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_w8a6bIv6CMs/SwInaQLzCqI/AAAAAAAAEI8/9IHpCubDrWk/s640/simmer+v+mcardle.jpg

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 06:06 PM
I saw Simmonds multiple times when Owen Sound played Kingston. Pretty sure that counts as seeing him in person.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 06:10 PM
LoF i trust your ability as a scout like i trust Jeff Finger to score a hat trick

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 06:13 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_w8a6bIv6CMs/SwInaQLzCqI/AAAAAAAAEI8/9IHpCubDrWk/s640/simmer+v+mcardle.jpg

Hahahaha, Simmonds against McArdle. He goes after the only other brother on the ice. I bet the benches were going nuts!

PlayerToBeNamedLater
07-07-2010, 06:14 PM
black on black violence

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 06:16 PM
more like black on crap.....McCardle sucks

Montana
07-07-2010, 06:18 PM
Little update on the Kovalchuk situation...




The Kings, who became "reengaged" in talks with free-agent winger Ilya Kovalchuk on Tuesday, according to General Manager Dean Lombardi, have received a proposal from Kovalchuk's agent, Jay Grossman.

However, the proposed deal is so complex -- and the ramifications so big from the Kings' perspective -- that they are not expected to respond for at least a day and possibly longer.

The Kings dropped out of the hunt Sunday, after Kovalchuk's representative did not submit a counteroffer to the Kings' initial proposals. Kovalchuk's only other confirmed NHL suitor has been the New Jersey Devils, but they would have to clear substantial salary cap space to sign him, and they have not made any transactions that would allow them to sign the 27-year-old left wing.

The KHL in Kovalchuk's native Russia appears to be his other option. The money there is big and tax-free, but he obviously couldn't win the Stanley Cup there -- if that, indeed, means more to him than a big payday.

After telling The Times on Wednesday morning that the Kings were again in the mix, Lombardi declined to comment further. Grossman would not comment at all.

The New York Post reported this week that the Devils were offering Kovalchuk a seven-year, $60-million deal. The Kings were rumored to have offered more money over a longer term to keep the average annual value of the deal down, but that could not be confirmed.

The Kings' reasons for dropping out of the Kovalchuk sweepstakes Sunday remain valid: They want to ensure that they can retain Drew Doughty, Jack Johnson and other core players. Doughty and Johnson can become restricted free agents after next season and Doughty, coming off a season in which he won an Olympic gold medal and was a finalist for the Norris Trophy (awarded to the league's top defenseman), will command megabucks. The Kings, if they're serious about contending for the Cup, will have to pay him.

Lombardi must also factor in the possibility that the salary cap will decrease under a new collective bargaining agreement and that giving Kovalchuk a salary that would create a large cap hit will impede the Kings' ability to keep their core players. The current labor deal between the NHL and the NHL Players' Assn. expires after the 2011-12 season and owners could push to lower the cap, which will stand at $59.4 million next season.

The saga continues. More as we get it at www.latimes.com/sports

-- Helene Elliott

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 06:24 PM
gah..this isnt ending soon.

j_15
07-07-2010, 06:34 PM
It was intruiging at first. Now its just tedious.

number17
07-07-2010, 06:35 PM
sigh ...

Let's see, ATL gave him $90M over 9 years, and he didn't sign him. $10.1M over 11 years, didn't sign it.

LA gave him $84M over 9 years, didn't sign it.

NYI gave him $10M over 10 yrs, didn't sign it (though I can understand ... it's the Isles, right?)

NJD gave him $70M over 8 yrs, and he didn't sign it.

So what exactly do you want Ilya???

I guess he wants the $10M x 10 from LA ... so he gets the best of both worlds.

Rumor is KHL is also in the picture here. He might eventually sign a short term deal (1 or 2 yrs) to play a couple seasons back home.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 06:36 PM
Jonas, you're pretty much a trolling, self-important douche, so accept that as what I think of your opinion about pretty much anything.

PQ
07-07-2010, 06:37 PM
maybe things changed, but as I said earlier, SKA St. Petersburg, the team that just signed Nabokov offered Kovalchuk a contract till 2014 (until the Olympics pretty much). No financial information, but team president said that considering Russia's much softer tax laws than the ones he'll have to endure in North America, it's a pretty good deal for Kovalchuk

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 06:39 PM
Jonas, you're pretty much a trolling, self-important douche, so accept that as what I think of your opinion about pretty much anything.

And you are a diluded, miscalculating dumbass who overrates anything Toronto and has no real knowledge of the rest of the NHL....a genuine Toronto Maple Tool.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 06:41 PM
Haha, yeah, as others have already established for you, I'm the furthest thing from a Leaf homer out there, dumbass.

Why not save your ridiculous, baseless ramblings for the Hawks posters on the board that you belong on?

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 06:47 PM
Yawn. Kovalchuk is becoming boring. Sundin 2.0 - make up your freaking mind already.

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 06:48 PM
Why not save your ridiculous, baseless ramblings for the Hawks posters on the board that you belong on?

http://www.hockey-sphere.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/hfboards_500x375.gif

?

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 06:50 PM
Anywhere but here works in his case.

Montana
07-07-2010, 07:22 PM
sigh ...

Let's see, ATL gave him $90M over 9 years, and he didn't sign him. $10.1M over 11 years, didn't sign it.

LA gave him $84M over 9 years, didn't sign it.

NYI gave him $10M over 10 yrs, didn't sign it (though I can understand ... it's the Isles, right?)

NJD gave him $70M over 8 yrs, and he didn't sign it.

So what exactly do you want Ilya???

I guess he wants the $10M x 10 from LA ... so he gets the best of both worlds.

Rumor is KHL is also in the picture here. He might eventually sign a short term deal (1 or 2 yrs) to play a couple seasons back home.


I think half your numbers are wrong.

MindzEye
07-07-2010, 07:23 PM
Still what, 2....3 months until TC starts.

At this rate someone is going to snap and start hunting board members down. We need hockey back badly.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 07:28 PM
Well, it's slow so I'll throw this out there - the Islanders chose not to renew the contract of their Director of Amateur Scouting, which I think is a bit strange because he's been there through their whole rebuild but there's been no time to see if anything's worked really.

mikedumar
07-07-2010, 07:41 PM
Huh ilya again posturing and declining ! Now giving complicated numbers to the kings ..... Wonder where his agent found how to do that ? Who did burke hire recently to help with cap issues ?

TimHorton
07-07-2010, 07:42 PM
We're not getting him Dumar.

LeafOfFaith
07-07-2010, 07:59 PM
Why would Burke want Kovy's agent to present a complicated counter to LA? Just so LA could reject and Kovy would find his way to us? If that was the plan, why not just sign Kovy outright instead of engineering this unlikely scenario you're presenting?

Volcanologist
07-07-2010, 08:05 PM
I wish he'd sign so we can get on with whatever it is Burke's doing.

teeds
07-07-2010, 08:06 PM
My two contacts say a full NO to Ilya to Toronto. For whatever it is worth.

They say Burke and Nonis don't want to upset Phaneuf. Who might get pouffy if someone makes a lot more than him. This Phaneuf guy is starting to bug me.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 08:23 PM
Apparantly the Kings might be out now....this shit is ridiculous.

Montana
07-07-2010, 09:47 PM
NYP_Brooksie: Reliable Source: Kings have offered Kovalchuk 12-year deal for AAV of $5.3M. Not going to happen. Might open door for short-term options."

Habsy
07-07-2010, 09:49 PM
Prima Donnachuk

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:00 PM
Might open door for short-term options."


Paging Mr. Burke.

Fitzgerald#11
07-07-2010, 10:09 PM
too busy spending cap room on Brett Lebda .....

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:09 PM
Geez guys, don't make me say Beleafer's favorite ex-Leafs name...

MindzEye
07-07-2010, 10:24 PM
Who did burke hire recently to help with cap issues ?

Batman?

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:25 PM
Yes Robin?

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 10:27 PM
Geez guys, don't make me say Beleafer's favorite ex-Leafs name...

http://www.joacpro.com/hoki/images/AkiBerg.gif

MindzEye
07-07-2010, 10:28 PM
Yes Robin?

Yellow and red really aren't my colours, you must be looking for someone else.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:29 PM
WEll the first three letters of his last name are correct in any event.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:29 PM
Yellow and red really aren't my colours, you must be looking for someone else.

Own the tights... own them.

MindzEye
07-07-2010, 10:29 PM
and let's be honest here....I'm a bit of a lunatic, if I was a character from Batman...I'm:

http://tapemixblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/culture-shock-the-joker-thumb.jpg

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:31 PM
You sure not the fruitier version?

http://filmlinc.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/jack-nicholson_joker2.jpg

MindzEye
07-07-2010, 10:33 PM
Ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light?

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:34 PM
Great line.

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:35 PM
Habsy's Max Schreck.


http://batman.neoseeker.com/w/i/batman/c/c3/MaxShreck.jpg

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:36 PM
goes without saying who kb is...

http://blogs.metropulse.com/the_daily_pulse/assets_c/2010/01/45633439775192148750-thumb-500x300-12478.jpg

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 10:36 PM
http://thechaly.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/mr-freeze.jpg >>

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:38 PM
TimHorton...


http://www.coolwatersprods.com/images/dent8x10.jpg

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:39 PM
Montana...

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_6029_images/1218081054_M_penguin_devito.jpg

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:39 PM
too late, already cast.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:40 PM
Jonas

http://stonelight.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/pfeiffer_catwoman-017.jpg

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:41 PM
teeds

http://www.philly2hoboken.com/blog/archives/images/062005e.jpg

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:41 PM
besides....if I was the penguin, I'd be this one...

http://makdleech.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/penguin.jpg

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:42 PM
Jonas



Two-face?

http://endued.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/two-face.jpg

corksens
07-07-2010, 10:42 PM
Please...teeds is clearly this guy...

http://idology.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/most_interesting_man.jpg

Montana
07-07-2010, 10:43 PM
I was thinking more..

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/02/23-End/gary-busey-batshit-crazy.jpg

corksens
07-07-2010, 10:44 PM
zeke

http://blog.nj.com/entertainment_impact_tv/2009/05/large_dom-deluise-dead-at-75.jpg

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:45 PM
Corksens

http://www.fitnesspioneers.com/images/richard-simmons.jpg

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 10:46 PM
Ice to see you Batman!!

You know what killed the dinosaurs?....THE ICE AGE!!!

voyager
07-07-2010, 10:48 PM
Christ, I go away for a little bit and when I come back scrotum is gone and we have casting calls for batman.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:48 PM
Never leave voyager... NEVER!

Now click dammit.

Habsy
07-07-2010, 10:49 PM
Oh and tell Prima Donnachuk to sign already. He's holding the league up.

MyNameIsJonas
07-07-2010, 10:49 PM
Im not catwoman

Two Face i can live with.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 10:50 PM
So BTW, I posted earlier that the Islanders let their Director of Amateur Scouting go... they're not replacing him - his duties will be filled by Garth Snow as per Katie Strang from NY Newsday and Chris Botta of IslandersPointBlank.

Wtf?

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 10:52 PM
P84 = http://18to88.com/images/MadHatter.jpg?

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 10:55 PM
Ice to see you Batman!!

You know what killed the dinosaurs?....THE ICE AGE!!!

:lol :lol :lol

That movie was on two nights ago. I watch it every time just for the horrible Ahnold cold-related puns.

YouTube- Mr. Freeze's Puns

"Tonight's forecast. A FREEEEEZE is coming."
"Allow me to break the ice."
"You are not sending me to da coolah!"
"Freeze well!"
"Stat cool, bird boy!"
"Let's kick some ICE!"
"I'm afraid that my condition has left me cold to your pleas of mercy."
"Alright everyone: CHILL!"
"It's a cold town!"
"COOL PARTAY!"
"Can you be cold, Batman!?"
"CHILLED TO PERFECTION."
"Revenge is a dish best served cold."
"Winter has come at last."

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 11:01 PM
Two-face?

http://endued.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/two-face.jpg

:D

Hockeylover:

http://cinecdoque.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/batichica.jpg

corksens
07-07-2010, 11:12 PM
Corksens

http://www.fitnesspioneers.com/images/richard-simmons.jpgSimmons!

Wait, isn't that who the Leafs are trading Kaberle for?

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 11:16 PM
No. This is him.

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/97009860.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F5AD5C0FE843D67917 A86FC49BE8481239229D428145D63329

TimHorton can finally be proud of this team when it happens.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 11:19 PM
wtf? Totally OT but a friend from high school just had his own segment on MTV. Weird.

Montana
07-07-2010, 11:19 PM
capgeek blackhawks agree to terms with Finnish goalie Hannu Toivonen

MindzEye
07-07-2010, 11:20 PM
Tim was plenty proud of his soul brother Jamal Mayers, and was particularly fond of Grant Fuhr back in the day.

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 11:20 PM
wtf? Totally OT but a friend from high school just had his own segment on MTV. Weird.

What does that have to do with Batman?

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 11:22 PM
Tim was plenty proud of his soul brother Jamal Mayers, and was particularly fond of Grant Fuhr back in the day.

I was so pissed off the day I found out that the team had passed on Anson Carter and he had signed in Vancouver.

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 11:23 PM
What does that have to do with Batman?

blkgldbabe:

http://glocallynewark.com/files/2009/10/umathurmanpicture117tw.jpg

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 11:24 PM
Too bad they used her in quite possibly the worst Batman film of all time.

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 11:25 PM
There's no "quite possibly" about it, Metal. It's one of the worst films ever made. And not even just in the mostly-shitty comic adapation sphere. We're talking all-time.

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 11:28 PM
yep only one I don't have. Nipples on the batsuit WTF?!

JaysCyYoung
07-07-2010, 11:29 PM
Don't forget the constant array of neon colours and the massive codpieces on Robin and Batman's suits. Nope, Joel Schumacher isn't the biggest queer in Hollywood.

IrishWolfman
07-07-2010, 11:29 PM
There's no "quite possibly" about it, Metal. It's one of the worst films ever made. And not even just in the mostly-shitty comic adapation sphere. We're talking all-time.

Sorry, but it must be done.

http://annehelenpetersen.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/kanye.jpg

mbow30
07-07-2010, 11:43 PM
wtf? Totally OT but a friend from high school just had his own segment on MTV. Weird.

don't let that friend become a douchebag.

one of my best friends since high school got a job with mtv and as his on-air role increased... his douchebaggeriness increased commensurately.

Metalleaf
07-07-2010, 11:45 PM
why do they call it Music TV? No more music...only loads of BS.

hockeylover
07-07-2010, 11:45 PM
Oh, it won't be a regular thing. He races for Nascar Canada or something like that and they did a segment racing with him.

LeafGm
07-08-2010, 12:06 AM
I was so pissed off the day I found out that the team had passed on Anson Carter and he had signed in Vancouver.
Good thing though. Carter sucked. It's a testament to the Sedins' talent that they managed to get 33 goals out of him that one season, and a testament to Carter's stupidity that he left that sweet situation because he couldn't squeeze quite enough money out of the Canucks.

Habsy
07-08-2010, 12:28 AM
I don't allow MTV to be aired in my house. I got my son playboy tv instead.

MindzEye
07-08-2010, 12:41 AM
and that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you parent.


:thumbsup(22):

Montana
07-08-2010, 12:10 PM
DaveDavisHockey Former #Sabres dman Nathan Paetsch has signed on with the Florida Panthers. They plan to slot him as a 5/6 dman.

teeds
07-08-2010, 12:19 PM
My son has to work out for three hours before he even gets his rat claws on a freaking game or convertor. Poor kid is the only kid around who has a washboard. Kitchener seems to be a convent for beached whales.

Montana
07-08-2010, 12:43 PM
Real_ESPNLeBrun: Lotsa people asking about Kovalchuk. As LA Times reported last night, talks indeed have broken up again. Lombardi needs cap-friendly deal."

Right now Kovalchuk camp won't give them one so it's dead again... The player wants to be in LA... But for now, it's off again."

MyNameIsJonas
07-08-2010, 01:13 PM
Eff Kovy...Eff him

Montana
07-08-2010, 01:15 PM
JeffMarek Minnesota Wild re-sign Robbie Earl. One-year, two-way deal.

Habsy
07-08-2010, 01:20 PM
Is Minnesota the new Long Island? Seems nobody really wants to play there.

Volcanologist
07-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Remember when Earl shot his mouth off and told us he was a draft "steal"?

MyNameIsJonas
07-08-2010, 01:24 PM
Its cold, irrelavent, and those uniforms are ugly as sin.

axlsalinger
07-08-2010, 01:31 PM
Is Minnesota the new Long Island? Seems nobody really wants to play there.It definitely is considered a wasteland in the NBA. As for the NHL, it's a good question. Guess it's not that exciting of a city and brutally cold in the winter, but there's a huge fanbase and sold-out games. You'd think there would be more players interested in going there.

Metalleaf
07-08-2010, 01:35 PM
Minnesota has cap issues so they can't really sign anyone of note.

Montana
07-08-2010, 01:46 PM
kausatoday Anaheim's Ryan Carter was placed on waivers today, and Washington's Michael Nylander cleared waivers.

Montana
07-08-2010, 02:48 PM
Real_ESPNLeBrun Holdup on Zherdev deal in Philly we're told is that paperwork still being processed as NHL rubber-stamps player transfer from KHL...

Montana
07-08-2010, 02:53 PM
MurphysLaw74 Reports surfacing that the Red Wings (ala two summers ago with Marian Hossa) have jumped into Kovalchuk sweepstakes and offered 1 yr. $8.5 m

Montana
07-08-2010, 02:54 PM
Real_ESPNLeBrun Holdup on Zherdev deal in Philly we're told is that paperwork still being processed as NHL rubber-stamps player transfer from KHL...

Real_ESPNLeBrun Once paperwork is finalized either today or tomorrow, Zherdev will sign a one-year deal with the Flyers

Montana
07-08-2010, 02:55 PM
Real_ESPNLeBrun In other Flyers news, Simon Gagne on French sports network RDS told media that he has, in fact, NOT waived his no-trade clause...

Real_ESPNLeBrun But Gagne hinted that because of Flyers' cap issues, he may still be on the way out at some point

axlsalinger
07-08-2010, 03:08 PM
MurphysLaw74 Reports surfacing that the Red Wings (ala two summers ago with Marian Hossa) have jumped into Kovalchuk sweepstakes and offered 1 yr. $8.5 mSweet Jesus. Please don't tell me we have to go through all of the b.s. with this guy again next summer.