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PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-20-2013, 02:48 PM
He's simply not worth the contract he was given. If some GM wants to bail Calgary out then so be it. I'm glad Gainey and Gauthier are gone because it's the type of move they'd do.

Habs finally rid themselves of Gomess and they start winning again.

If he was on the open market, he'd get something close to what he's earning, because that's what top pairing, UFA dmen get.

Gomez is complete trash. He can barely play. Bouwmeester is a 25 minute defender. Not comparable at all.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-20-2013, 02:53 PM
Suter got 7.5, Wideman got 5.3 this past offseason. Bouwmeester would've probably got something in the middle.

Habsy
03-20-2013, 03:58 PM
I think Suter is better than Bouwmeester. Wideman I think is overpaid as well.

Wayward DP
03-20-2013, 04:00 PM
Suter's definitely better than Bouwmeester.

And almost all UFA d-men are overpaid.

Habsy
03-20-2013, 04:04 PM
This is true.

Still I have a hard time believing that a team would still give Bouwmeester $6.7m in this day and age.

oscarheyman
03-20-2013, 04:05 PM
Bouwmeester can't be a playoff dud as he's never made the playoffs. So whether or not he's a dud cannot be determined until he makes it in.

The only time he's played in the playoffs as a "professional" was in the AHL. And that only happened because he was traded to a playoff team around that league's trading deadline.

The one time (might've been more than once) the Panthers were looking like they could at least make a run at a playoff spot during Jaybo's time there - he wilted when they needed him the most (during the home run stretch).

That said, he's a solid as you can get for a #2 defenseman - able to eat a ton of minutes. But plays a game far smaller than he is - that's one of the reasons why he had that 'iron man' streak going.

Wayward DP
03-20-2013, 04:05 PM
This is true.

Still I have a hard time believing that a team would still give Bouwmeester $6.7m in this day and age.

Think it will depend on what year he hits UFA (don't know offhand). I think this coming offseason may see a drop in average value just because of the cap going down, but once it starts climbing back up in the next offseason... I'd be shocked if he got under $6 mill.

Wayward DP
03-20-2013, 04:06 PM
This is true.

Still I have a hard time believing that a team would still give Bouwmeester $6.7m in this day and age.

Think it will depend on what year he hits UFA (don't know offhand). I think this coming offseason may see a drop in average value just because of the cap going down, but once it starts climbing back up in the next offseason... I'd be shocked if he got under $6 mill.

Habsy
03-20-2013, 04:07 PM
Free agent the summer of 2014. Remember too that the cap is going down next year. It should start rising again after that though.

leafman101
03-20-2013, 04:24 PM
Bouwmeester is a very good dman. Overpaid at the moment, but a very good dman none the less.

MyNameIsJonas
03-20-2013, 04:27 PM
Bouwmeester i find is very unassuming, yet very good.

I think that applies to his lackluster personality as well.

leafman101
03-20-2013, 04:29 PM
Manish Mehta ‏
Roger Godell says one of the ideas for Pro Bowl is having 2 captains (players) drafting/picking 2 teams from group of Pro Bowlers.

Wonder where they got that idea from?

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-20-2013, 04:32 PM
I think Suter is better than Bouwmeester. Wideman I think is overpaid as well.

Suter is better, which is why he makes more.

hockeylover
03-20-2013, 05:42 PM
Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN 8m
#NYR Can confirm that Rangers GM Glen Sather will undergo surgery in NY Thurs for prostate cancer, as 1st reported by @stevezipay

Wow. That's too bad, hopefully everything goes smoothly.

zeke
03-20-2013, 06:21 PM
The problem with Bouwmeester is that people always think of him as an offensive dmen, when actually he's one of the better defensive dmen in the league.

You don't want him QBing your PP, though.

Habsy
03-20-2013, 10:08 PM
MacKenzie: Sustr will cull list of 20-25 teams interested in his services tomorrow thru Friday, and sign this weekend.

Metalleaf
03-20-2013, 10:18 PM
He'll sign with Philly.

oscarheyman
03-21-2013, 12:00 AM
Please delete if it's been posted already, but I found this pretty hilarious:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I40HfH1UiXo#!

zeke
03-21-2013, 12:11 AM
heh. nice.

Habsy
03-21-2013, 12:12 AM
:lol pretty funny.

fergy57
03-21-2013, 09:37 AM
Can't wait to show this to a sabres fan at work.

Hoss
03-21-2013, 10:17 AM
Vanek is the only valuable guy on their now... Sure Miller is still top notch, but he has become such a whiney bitch that seems to blame everybody else but himslef for losses that he's becoming slowly untouchable.

Habsy
03-21-2013, 11:50 AM
Don't kid yourself, teams would line up for Myers too.

zeke
03-21-2013, 12:58 PM
Doubt it.

BG
03-21-2013, 01:03 PM
MacKenzie: Sustr will cull list of 20-25 teams interested in his services tomorrow thru Friday, and sign this weekend.

Sustr attended the Pens rookie training camp this last offseason.

hairnova
03-21-2013, 01:10 PM
Sustr attended the Pens rookie training camp this last offseason.

Tampa Bay's too.

Leafin'
03-21-2013, 01:43 PM
Is he any good?

BG
03-21-2013, 02:19 PM
From: http://snyrangersblog.com/andrej-sustr/read-what-andrej-sustr-does-on-the-ice/


In summary, they write “At his best, Sustr is a two-way defenseman who uses his size well and is physical. It can be a detriment; one of the games I watched him play live this year saw the defenseman called for 3 separate penalties. At. his worst, Sustr is a raw player who isn’t a great skater and is relies on his physical gifts.Few players, however, have the gifts Sustr does and the foundation is there for the 6’8″ hockey player to further develop into a role in the NHL.”

LeafGm
03-21-2013, 02:24 PM
Wouldn't mind the Leafs signing the guy, but I don't imagine we'd have a shot with our depth on defense, and a lot of other teams having the ability to offer him the chance to get in some NHL games this year.

Leafin'
03-21-2013, 03:00 PM
Holy shit 6'8?!

Get him immediately. Free wallet.

Habsy
03-21-2013, 04:10 PM
Doubt it.

They said the same for Chara at one time. Giants take far longer to develop.

number17
03-21-2013, 04:32 PM
Tons of teams will sign up to at least give Myers a chance.

I would too.

zeke
03-21-2013, 04:39 PM
You guys know he's signed for $5.5/7yrs, right?

Metalleaf
03-21-2013, 06:32 PM
Sustr signs a 2 year ELC with Tampa Bay.

hockeylover
03-21-2013, 06:33 PM
I'm glad we're not that team anymore.

Leafin'
03-21-2013, 06:38 PM
Would've been nice to sign him and add some depth to the marlies.

hockeylover
03-21-2013, 06:45 PM
Would've been nice to sign him and add some depth to the marlies.

He never would've signed here with so much depth. Other teams offer a much easier path to the NHL. Even the Marlies right now have Komisarek, Ranger, Blacker, Rielly, Holzer.

Leafin'
03-21-2013, 06:52 PM
Yeh, I guess I'm just a greedy bastard.

hockeylover
03-21-2013, 07:01 PM
Yeh, I guess I'm just a greedy bastard.

:D Trust me, it's actually a nice thing we're not in the running anymore.

Leafin'
03-21-2013, 07:26 PM
F*ck it. We are the Mecca. Everyone and their grandmother should want to play for the leafs. I don't care about opportunity or how easy it would be to make a team. Leafs>>>.

And that's it!

oscarheyman
03-21-2013, 07:32 PM
He never would've signed here with so much depth. Other teams offer a much easier path to the NHL.
That's how it went with Justin Schultz. Odds are stacked against getting these types of free agent prospects if your team isn't crap/awful. They're looking for promised icetime (which also serves to burn a year off their ELC).

Bolts blueline is a mess so it's easy to see why he chose to sign there.

trujaysfan
03-21-2013, 11:29 PM
Tampa also has: no income tax, low cost of living, sun, beach, some good young players, can step in and play in the nhl right away, also means earning an nhl pay cheque right away.

many positives other locations don't offer

Habsy
03-22-2013, 04:38 AM
Low cost of living? Yeah, in the hood.

trujaysfan
03-22-2013, 10:49 AM
Low cost of living? Yeah, in the hood.

Compared with places like Toronto, New York, or Chicago it is substantially less. He could buy a property in Florida for the price of a years rent plus parking spot in downtown Toronto.

1 exception in Florida that I have seen is Miami which can get to be pretty expensive but most other communities it is way less.

My main point was highlighting all the non hockey factors that make a place like Florida a good choice for a player on an entry level deal right out of college.

leafman101
03-22-2013, 11:07 AM
The beach is nice, but these guys always go for the playing time. Weather and expensive living conditions didn't stop these guys from coming to Toronto a few years ago.

number17
03-22-2013, 11:36 AM
Even Miami isn't that outrageous for properties, unless you are RIGHT on the beach ...

We may not realize, but the cost of living in Toronto is pretty crazy these days.

MyNameIsJonas
03-22-2013, 11:52 AM
I always get a chuckle over weather being a determining factor when FA's sign in sports....If it really mattered no one would play football in New England, Pittsburgh, Chicago, or Green Bay....and would line up for Miami, Tampa Bay, and Arizona....

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-22-2013, 11:53 AM
Top 5 Priorities for FA's:

1. Money
2. Money
3. Money
4. Playing Time / Role
5. Weather / City

oscarheyman
03-22-2013, 12:54 PM
Top 5 Priorities for FA's:

1. Money
2. Money
3. Money
4. Playing Time / Role
5. Weather / City
With free agent prospects who have never signed a NHL contract (Sustr & Schultz) - that pretty much is the same as money.

trujaysfan
03-22-2013, 01:12 PM
With free agent prospects who have never signed a NHL contract (Sustr & Schultz) - that pretty much is the same as money.

Well an NHL spot = NHL money... which would be the biggest factor.

LeafGm
03-22-2013, 01:37 PM
For some, they probably also realize that the guaranteed opportunity they get to play in the NHL right after they sign their contract might be their only chance to suit up for NHL games. Like that Braden Irwin kid the Leafs signed. In his first full pro season, it became quickly apparent that he couldn't even hack it in the AHL. So, if he'd signed with a team that had more depth, he have started in the AHL and probably never played an NHL game in his life. But because he signed with the Leafs when they were terrible and finishing out a lost season, at the very least he'll always be able to say he played two games in the NHL.

Aardvarkmayhem
03-22-2013, 01:45 PM
While money is the #1 factor for UFA signings, under a cap I don't think that the dollar disparity between interested parties is going to be all that different.

Even before this last lockout, the destination for several free agents was more important than anything - Hossa, Richards, etc.

Wayward DP
03-22-2013, 02:39 PM
For some, they probably also realize that the guaranteed opportunity they get to play in the NHL right after they sign their contract might be their only chance to suit up for NHL games. Like that Braden Irwin kid the Leafs signed. In his first full pro season, it became quickly apparent that he couldn't even hack it in the AHL. So, if he'd signed with a team that had more depth, he have started in the AHL and probably never played an NHL game in his life. But because he signed with the Leafs when they were terrible and finishing out a lost season, at the very least he'll always be able to say he played two games in the NHL.

Christian Hanson also

mbow30
03-22-2013, 03:47 PM
these guys are signing two way deals, so of course they want to go where they will get the best and most immediate opportunity to play in the nhl. you can sign with toronto and wait until camp next year to get a shot, and even then probably only see sporadic duty. or you sign with a team that is thin on the back end, get 15 games in 2013 and then a real shot to crack the top six out of camp next year. let's say this kid gets into half of tampa's games next year. that'll be worth anywhere from $300-$1.5mn to him depending on bonuses (i'm guessing a $600k base and max bonuses). if he were to spend a full season with the marles he'd earn between 50 and 100k depending on the terms of his contract.

the odds of these guys panning out are not great. most flop (hanson, irwin). some hang on as spare bits (gilroy). only the odd diamond in the rough becomes anything better than a marginal nhl'er (bozak). so of course they want an opportunity because even just a 40 game tryout in the nhl is a big deal financially to them.

Habsy
03-22-2013, 03:48 PM
Compared with places like Toronto, New York, or Chicago it is substantially less. He could buy a property in Florida for the price of a years rent plus parking spot in downtown Toronto.

1 exception in Florida that I have seen is Miami which can get to be pretty expensive but most other communities it is way less.

My main point was highlighting all the non hockey factors that make a place like Florida a good choice for a player on an entry level deal right out of college.

Try living in my area for cheap. You forget things like Insurance. Auto and house are the highest in the country. Do you pay $8000 a year for house insurance? $3500 for Car? And this is without claims. Taxes are probably around the same but still high. Cost of living in BFE Florida is cheap, the coast of living in nicer areas is not.

Habsy
03-22-2013, 03:49 PM
Even Miami isn't that outrageous for properties, unless you are RIGHT on the beach ...

We may not realize, but the cost of living in Toronto is pretty crazy these days.

You need to know Miami well. There are plenty of areas you simply do not want to live in. I am sure I could find cheap properties in Toronto, the question is would I want to live in that area.

worm
03-22-2013, 04:10 PM
Try living in my area for cheap. You forget things like Insurance. Auto and house are the highest in the country. Do you pay $8000 a year for house insurance? $3500 for Car? And this is without claims. Taxes are probably around the same but still high. Cost of living in BFE Florida is cheap, the coast of living in nicer areas is not.

nicely done

worm
03-22-2013, 04:11 PM
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Miami-Florida/market-trends/

Im moving to Miami.

Wayward DP
03-22-2013, 04:17 PM
Nash gets off scot free.

As per TSN

Hoss
03-22-2013, 04:38 PM
Un Flucking real.... Any money Lupul or Carlyle says something about it and they get fined.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
03-22-2013, 04:41 PM
The NHL can be such a joke sometimes.

zeke
03-22-2013, 04:57 PM
that's pathetic.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-22-2013, 05:00 PM
Even if Nash didn't do it on purpose, you still have to be held accountable for your actions.

zeke
03-22-2013, 05:07 PM
Damien Cox is (validly) freaking out on twitter. go damien go.


Damien Cox
‏@DamoSpin
Nothing for Nash while Lupul gets two is not only wrong, its tampering with integrity of playoff race. Let's hope this is misunderstanding

Damien Cox
‏@DamoSpin
Shanahan, an ex-Ranger, would be exposing himself to serious conflict of interest allegations if there is no Nash hearing/suspension.

Damien Cox
‏@DamoSpin
If Lupul got two and Nash doesn't even get a hearing the Leafs should and must file a letter of protest with NHL. This cannot be true.

leafman101
03-22-2013, 05:09 PM
Its pretty ridiculous. There really is no excuse here.

"accidental" elbows to the face are still elbows to the face. Its not like Lupul's hit was intentional.

zeke
03-22-2013, 05:13 PM
Kevin McGran @kevin_mcgran
NHL leaves itself open to all kinds of criticism when one of Sherrif Shanny's former teams are involved. tell us why, or why not.

Kevin McGran @kevin_mcgran
the message right now is: you can leave your feet to target the back of the neck. Not really a good precedent. #NHL

Hoss
03-22-2013, 07:01 PM
The leafs should seriously file a review or a complaint.... at least that could cause a delay of the second game. Shanahan needs to explain himself for sure

fergy57
03-22-2013, 08:17 PM
"Here we see Rick Nash leave his feet to deliver the elbow. This is referred to as the 'flying elbow,' popularized by wwe legend macho man randy savage. Anyone who can bring a professional wrestling move to the ice is clearly outside the realm of a suspendable play."

ForeverTML
03-22-2013, 08:39 PM
Damian raises some real good points (wow thats weird to say). They should never have let a recent ex player become the disciplinarian.

hockeylover
03-22-2013, 09:22 PM
Shanahan, in short, said that while the hit was "rotten" and worthy of a penalty, it didn't make Kopecky's head the principle point of contact and ergo, didn't deserve a suspension.

“It’s like a slashing minor, a slashing major and a slashing suspension. It’s the same thing as leaving your feet on a hit. When it rises to a suspension is when a player is in control of your hit; when we see a predatorial play and make significant contact with a player’s head," Shanahan said.

Wtf? **** you Shanahan. Lame ****ing reasoning.

Cojo
03-22-2013, 10:00 PM
I didnt know what all the hype was about.

I just finally got to watch the hit. And wow... all i can say is i just lost some respect for Mr.Shanahan.

Basically said that after you slow the play down to the point where it takes an hour for a second to pass you can tell that his elbow nicked his shoulder first and hitting his head was a whiplash. What a ****ing joke Shanny. The play happens at real life speeds. Whether he was a 1/8th of a millimetre from hitting his head first is frigging ridiculous.

UWHabs
03-22-2013, 10:12 PM
It wasn't a brutal headhunting play, but he went in high trying to take him out. I don't think it was quite to the level of Lupul (who led high with his shoulder into the head), but it certainly was a dirty play coming in from behind. If that were next to the boards it would be a 20 game suspension.

trujaysfan
03-22-2013, 10:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9jZDEQ_a3Y

vs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc6h3SsClo

Both bad hits and both should be suspensions.... lupul getting 2 and nash getting 0 is pure BullSh*t

LeafOfFaith
03-22-2013, 11:00 PM
What the ****??? Is Shanahan serious? I've never seen such a blatant hit. That's an unprecedented two fist powerdrive downward!

Habsy
03-23-2013, 03:10 AM
http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Miami-Florida/market-trends/

Im moving to Miami.

You do that.

leafman101
03-23-2013, 07:35 AM
Elbowing a guy in the head from behind isn't a predatory play? But barely catching a guys head on an attempted shoulder check is?

Habsy
03-23-2013, 02:46 PM
Habs claim Jeff Halpern off Waivers

Sustr signs with Tampa

Tampa re-signs F Thompson

LeafGm
03-24-2013, 09:56 AM
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else, but Guy Boucher was fired this morning by the Lightning (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418994). Amazing all the effusive praise that was heaped on the guy when he first went to Tampa, but it seems like everything's gone off the rails for him since Peter Laviolette embarassed/exposed him in front of their home fans and a national TV audience.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEKE8QTbDTs

Anyways, with Tampa moving into our division next year, hopefully they don't hire Lindy Ruff. I was just starting to look forward to not having to regularly play against a team coached by that bastard.

soco22
03-24-2013, 10:01 AM
Weird to say...

I agree with Glenn Healy during the intermission last night explaining why he agreed to suspension to Nash.

Is he no longer the third man for leafs games between the box? If so....thank god!

LeafGm
03-24-2013, 10:14 AM
Interesting factoid, to go along that.

Boucher's record prior to the "Flyers incident": 53-30-13

Boucher's record after the "Flyers incident": 43-52-2

hockeylover
03-24-2013, 10:22 AM
Interesting, LeafGM. I had completely forgotten about that incident.

And I too am really glad to be rid of Lindy Ruff. I'm also really crossing my fingers that when Burke ends up a GM again, it's not in our division.

Volcanologist
03-24-2013, 10:26 AM
yeah, very curious to see where Burke ends up. Capitals could make some sense.

hockeylover
03-24-2013, 10:29 AM
Pretty frightening. They have one hell of a lot more talent there now than we did when he took over here.

Hoss
03-24-2013, 10:38 AM
I thought about that Lindy Ruff thing as well, and he'd be perfect in Tampa, but sweet jeebus I hope that somewhere out West gets him.

JackBurton
03-24-2013, 10:45 AM
I remember the rim jobs Yzerman/Boucher were getting two years ago. What the hell has Yzerman done in Tampa since he's been GM?

Hoss
03-24-2013, 10:58 AM
Lindback......

LeafGm
03-24-2013, 10:59 AM
I remember the rim jobs Yzerman/Boucher were getting two years ago. What the hell has Yzerman done in Tampa since he's been GM?
Hire/fire Boucher and overpay for Nahville's unproven backup goalie.

Habsy
03-24-2013, 03:09 PM
Burke's waiting to see what happens in Boston. Rumblings are Julien gets fired if they don't make it to the cup and Chiarelli goes with him.

Blueman
03-24-2013, 03:20 PM
Burke's waiting to see what happens in Boston. Rumblings are Julien gets fired if they don't make it to the cup and Chiarelli goes with him.

Those rumblings are retarded. Cup or clean house? Gimme a break.

Habsy
03-24-2013, 03:24 PM
Apparently Neely hates Julien and Chiarelli is his only advocate so it would be a package deal if canned.

Preston_Mizzi
03-24-2013, 03:33 PM
What is this, 2010? Those "rumors" haven't existed in at least 3 years. There is no chance that happens.

Habsy
03-24-2013, 03:34 PM
Ok, let's see what happens this summer should the Bruins not make noise.

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 03:39 PM
heard from friend Iginla would waive to 4 teams.....Pittsburgh, Boston, Chicago, and LA

Wayward DP
03-24-2013, 03:41 PM
Pitt and Boston make a lot of sense. Especially Pittsburgh.

Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Neal-Malkin-Dupuis

Jebus. With Sutter on the 3rd line.

They just gotta hope Fleury gets hot or Vokoun stops getting old so quick.

Habsy
03-24-2013, 03:43 PM
heard from friend Iginla would waive to 4 teams.....Pittsburgh, Boston, Chicago, and LA

That's been tweeted a lot.

BG
03-24-2013, 03:48 PM
Pittsburgh: Bennett/Pouliot/Morrow
Boston: Subban/Spooner/Khudobin
Chicago: Teravainen/Saad/Clendening
LA: Toffoli/Bernier

JackBurton
03-24-2013, 04:27 PM
Burke's waiting to see what happens in Boston. Rumblings are Julien gets fired if they don't make it to the cup and Chiarelli goes with him.

They won the cup two years ago. I'm sure they don't have a tight leash on them as a result.

hockeylover
03-24-2013, 04:30 PM
Wow, Morrow to the Pens says Dreger.

hockeylover
03-24-2013, 04:33 PM
Looks like a Morrow for Morrow trade.

hockeylover
03-24-2013, 04:33 PM
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 2m
I believe Joe Morrow would go to Dallas as part of the deal for Brendan Morrow.

trujaysfan
03-24-2013, 04:35 PM
Joe morrow going the other way is what Dreger is saying as well

JackBurton
03-24-2013, 04:36 PM
The media will have fun announcing that trade.

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 04:36 PM
Pittsburgh: Bennett/Pouliot/Morrow
Boston: Subban/Spooner/Khudobin
Chicago: Teravainen/Saad/Clendening
LA: Toffoli/Bernier



I wonder if the Hawks would offer Nick Leddy in a package with maybe Tuevo....

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 04:37 PM
If Morrow is a Pen...i assume they are out on Iginla

Boston would be a heavy front runner.

trujaysfan
03-24-2013, 04:38 PM
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 2m
I believe Joe Morrow would go to Dallas as part of the deal for Brendan Morrow.

Seams like quite the overpayment for morrow, not even sure if he would crack the top 6 in Pitt.

Metalleaf
03-24-2013, 04:38 PM
Bob McKenzie
"@DarrenDreger: Source says Pens-Stars have trade in place for Brendan Morrow. But has yet to waive no trade clause."/Stay tuned. Here we go

Metalleaf
03-24-2013, 04:38 PM
Seams like quite the overpayment for morrow, not even sure if he would crack the top 6 in Pitt.

He's probably a better fit than Iginla and costs a little less.

JackBurton
03-24-2013, 04:39 PM
Agreed. Morrow at this stage is not worth that.

mbow30
03-24-2013, 04:39 PM
that's a big price to pay for a guy who looks done. they must be betting on morrow's numbers being so low simply because he has been pushed down the depth chart.

interesting move for dallas, though, which is very much in the race and is doing it with some serious help from a few vets (whitney and jagr)

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 04:54 PM
I can only imagine the Iginla price

uncus
03-24-2013, 05:06 PM
I can only imagine the Iginla price

wouldnt give up anything substantial for him .... be interesting to hear kypreos and mclean and their guesses because according to them Kessel might get you a 1st and a mid prospect.

uncus
03-24-2013, 05:13 PM
I would be more interested in bowmeester - wonder if Calgary would take a package of Scrivens, Percy and a 3

Preston_Mizzi
03-24-2013, 05:15 PM
Joe Morrow is overrated around these parts but yeah, seems like the price is a little high. Brenden has barely looked like an NHLer at this point in his career.

Preston_Mizzi
03-24-2013, 05:23 PM
Looks like the Stars have offers from the Bruins and Pens and are letting Morrow pick between the two teams. Classy move by Dallas, if true.

trujaysfan
03-24-2013, 05:24 PM
He is deciding between boston and pitt right now.... so both teams have trades agreed to apparently

leafman101
03-24-2013, 05:34 PM
The Pens have loaded up on d prospects the last few years. Pouliot, Maatta, Morrow, Harrington, Dumoulin, Despres.

They can easily trade Morrow and not miss him a bit. Not sure if Brendan is worth it, but he's not exactly going to be asked to score there. Just do what he does best and be a physical/competitive presence.

But its not that surprising. Gaustad and Fisher have been moved for 1sts the last couple of deadlines. Thats the going rate for overrated 3rd liners.

Metalleaf
03-24-2013, 05:35 PM
Aaron Ward
Brendan Morrow waives his NTC to go to Pitt #TSN

Preston_Mizzi
03-24-2013, 05:36 PM
@JoshYohe_Trib: Numerous people in Pens organization have told me today that they believe Pouliot and Maatta will be better pros than Morrow.


Another over-hyped Pens prospect joining the likes of Caputi and Tangradi IMO. Still a high price, though. I guess similar value to a mid-late 1st rounder for a guy that has regressed beyond belief.

Metalleaf
03-24-2013, 06:12 PM
Pierre LeBrun
Pitt gets B. Morrow and a 3rd-round pick 2013 in exchange Dallas gets prospects Joe Morrow and a 5th-round pick 2013

Leafin'
03-24-2013, 06:24 PM
I would be more interested in bowmeester - wonder if Calgary would take a package of Scrivens, Percy and a 3

I'm on the fence on bouwmeester. Is he any good anymore? Do we need to be using assets to acquire another defender? Especially such an expensive one.

MindzEye
03-24-2013, 06:29 PM
@JoshYohe_Trib: Numerous people in Pens organization have told me today that they believe Pouliot and Maatta will be better pros than Morrow.


Another over-hyped Pens prospect joining the likes of Caputi and Tangradi IMO. Still a high price, though. I guess similar value to a mid-late 1st rounder for a guy that has regressed beyond belief.

Good point...when was the last time the Pens developed a decent NHL'er? Aside from their obvious high 1st round picks....yet their prospect group never seems to be viewed in a harsh light. Pittsburgh has been ranked higher than us almost every year in prospect rankings recently, while we've churned out Kadri, Gardiner, Reimer, Kulemin, Schenn (JVR), Frattin, Gunnar, etc etc...

Everything they seem to produce is overhyped until it fails.

mbow30
03-24-2013, 06:43 PM
to be fair, morrow was drafted higher than both and tangradi was in fact not drafted but acquired by pittsburgh, and his stock exploded while still in the ducks organization.

and i don't understand how he has 'regressed beyond belief'. that statement doesn't even make sense. regressed from what? in what way? he's a 19 year old who has had some difficulties in his rookie ahl season. that isn't unusual.

mbow30
03-24-2013, 06:44 PM
The Pens have loaded up on d prospects the last few years. Pouliot, Maatta, Morrow, Harrington, Dumoulin, Despres.

They can easily trade Morrow and not miss him a bit. Not sure if Brendan is worth it, but he's not exactly going to be asked to score there. Just do what he does best and be a physical/competitive presence.

But its not that surprising. Gaustad and Fisher have been moved for 1sts the last couple of deadlines. Thats the going rate for overrated 3rd liners.

that's true, except gaustad and fisher were both younger and better than morrow has been this year.

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 06:46 PM
if pitt and bos were willing to settle for morrow this quick, makes me think iggy istoo expensive or not available

Preston_Mizzi
03-24-2013, 06:46 PM
and i don't understand how he has 'regressed beyond belief'. that statement doesn't even make sense. regressed from what? in what way? he's a 19 year old who has had some difficulties in his rookie ahl season. that isn't unusual.
No. Morrow has regressed from being a 55-70 point scoring into being a guy who can barely move on the ice. This kind of reminds me of their Bill Guerin acquisition.

mbow30
03-24-2013, 06:51 PM
my mistake -- read that quickly and thought you were saying as a prospect morrow has regressed.

maybe the luster has worn off based on his slow start in the ahl, but 'beyond belief' seemed a bit harsh.

but of course you were talking about brendan morrow... and i agree, he's a shell of what he was.

Preston_Mizzi
03-24-2013, 06:55 PM
Yeah, I was saying that I don't think Morrow has surpassed his draft position in terms of value, nor has he really dropped. It's essentially Brenden Morrow for a mid-late 1st rounder that is further along the way to development than any future pick. High price to pay for Brenden.

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 07:09 PM
Talk about a confusing deal.....i tellmy buddy Morrow dealt to Pit..he wonders what the hell Jays are doing.

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 07:10 PM
Morrow's intangbles could be a huge factor in a playoff run for a team like Pittsburgh.

I'm willing to bet that's what Dallas was selling.

And Boston was clearly as interested.

Habsy
03-24-2013, 07:43 PM
Boston better not get Iginla.

MyNameIsJonas
03-24-2013, 07:46 PM
Boston better not get Iginla.

They make the most sense, hands down, as a trade partner for Calgary.

Pitt got Morrow

Chicago and LAK are in the West, and i think Boston has the room to extend Iggy too.

Metalleaf
03-24-2013, 07:47 PM
I can see LA. Calgary needs a goalie, Bernier is okay. Word is Boston won't deal Subban for Iginla.

Cojo
03-24-2013, 07:58 PM
Not that it would be a "good" value so to speak, but for Boston not to give up a goalie when they already have Rask and Khudobin seems pretty weird.

It would be pretty hard to argue that they wouldnt be contenders with someone like Iginla

Metalleaf
03-24-2013, 08:38 PM
Joe Haggerty
Per a source, Bruins offer that lost out to Pens for Brenden Morrow was Alex Khokhlachev & 2nd round pick

LeafOfFaith
03-25-2013, 12:13 AM
Morrow will make the Pens better for sure. That kind of character and experience is exactly what they need.

Habsy
03-25-2013, 12:20 AM
I can see LA. Calgary needs a goalie, Bernier is okay. Word is Boston won't deal Subban for Iginla.

If they do it's a done deal. You know Feaster is looking for a young goalie.

Artnes
03-25-2013, 12:25 AM
With Rask there for years to come and Svedberg being the top rookie goalie in the AHL you would think they would be willing to move him for help.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 12:50 AM
I call B.S. on that, has to cost more than Malc Subban or this is done.

Artnes
03-25-2013, 12:51 AM
I would say he is included in the deal.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 12:55 AM
I would say he is included in the deal.

Agreed, but i refuse to beleive the B's are hung up on including him.

Hoss
03-25-2013, 07:51 AM
Seguin and Subban???

BG
03-25-2013, 10:01 AM
They wouldn't deal a roster player for a rental.

Hoss
03-25-2013, 10:11 AM
The reports are that Iginla isn't necessarily looking to be a rental and that he would like to negotiate a deal with the team he goes to.

corksens
03-25-2013, 10:15 AM
No one would trade Seguin for Iginla.

Maybe 5 years ago.

Habspatrol
03-25-2013, 10:36 AM
The reports are that Iginla isn't necessarily looking to be a rental and that he would like to negotiate a deal with the team he goes to.

Sure... but you weren't serious about the Seguin and Subban thing though... right?

Hoss
03-25-2013, 11:12 AM
No I wasn't being serious... I was just posting that to see if Calgary could really be asking for the moon, and forcing Boston to pay through the nose.

Habspatrol
03-25-2013, 11:53 AM
Yeah I didn't think so.

I could see Subban and Khokhlachev for Iggy. Even then though... I'm not sure the Bruin pay that price.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 11:58 AM
Ive heard from a Hawk writer Chicago will do any prospect except Saad, Teravanien or Danault.....and that Calgary has asked for Saad.

If we arent willing to inlude at least one of those names i imagine he ends up in Boston or LA

leafman101
03-25-2013, 12:02 PM
I wouldn't think twice about making those deals if I was Boston or Chicago. Especially if Iggy wants to resign.

Chance at the cup > middle of the road prospects.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 12:28 PM
I wouldn't think twice about making those deals if I was Boston or Chicago. Especially if Iggy wants to resign.

Chance at the cup > middle of the road prospects.

Not sure about Boston... but im not sure Chicago can fit him in cap wise going forward, so for us i think it might have to be a rental, unless someone owed money (Bolland) or owed money in the future (Leddy) is part of the deal.

For that reason i don't think he'll be a Hawk

L.A. makes a ton of sense with the Sutter connection and Bernier in play

MindzEye
03-25-2013, 12:34 PM
Yeah, Bernier + a B prospect for Iginla makes a pile of sense.

Habsy
03-25-2013, 12:45 PM
That's if he wants to play for Sutter again.

I'd like to see him stay out west. Don't want him in our division.

leafman101
03-25-2013, 12:47 PM
If he is looking to resign the Leafs should make a run with Perry and Getzlaf out of the picture.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 01:20 PM
If he is looking to resign the Leafs should make a run with Perry and Getzlaf out of the picture.

He only wants to waive for a contender.

LeafOfFaith
03-25-2013, 01:21 PM
No way. Don't need another winger, and definitely not one who is going to be deteriorating rapidly.

leafman101
03-25-2013, 01:22 PM
Then why do you want Marleau?

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 01:23 PM
He only wants to waive for a contender.

Leafs with 1 or 2 key moves would be a legit contender.

PKForce81
03-25-2013, 01:28 PM
I'd only be interested in Thornton..and that's if we don't have to give up too much. As mentioned, we have some decent prospects so i'd move some of them. One of those plus a guy from our top 9 should be enough.

Hoss
03-25-2013, 01:33 PM
Dreger and others keep throwing out that Nonis is "needing" another top four defenseman....???? The TSN panel mentioned that of course theyd like the top line centre, but they also want a veteran goaltender and a top four d man.

Hoss
03-25-2013, 01:37 PM
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 1m Am told the Pittsburgh Penguins have acquired Douglas Murray from the San Jose Sharks... trade call still pending

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 01:38 PM
Pitt is loading up

leafman101
03-25-2013, 01:39 PM
Pens loading up.

Wonder if this is the start of the Sharks firesale.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 01:41 PM
Leafs with 1 or 2 key moves would be a legit contender.

Yeah, and you think you make those moves in a week in order to be good enough for Iginla, maybe?

LeafOfFaith
03-25-2013, 01:43 PM
Then why do you want Marleau?

Because he can play center.

worm
03-25-2013, 01:44 PM
Boston better not get Iginla.

:banghead:

LeafOfFaith
03-25-2013, 01:44 PM
Leafs with 1 or 2 key moves would be a legit contender.

Depends on whether our goaltending holds up and we get another center.

I don't think we can take down Pittsburgh over seven games with what we have now, even if we add a non-critical piece like another winger.

worm
03-25-2013, 01:44 PM
If they do it's a done deal. You know Feaster is looking for a young goalie.

LB is just as good as Subban


edit: though calgary is stupid i cant see a goalie prospect similar to one they already have as a key component in trading iginla

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 01:47 PM
Yeah, and you think you make those moves in a week in order to be good enough for Iginla, maybe?

Just the addition of Iginla would make us pretty strong.

The Leafs would be able to dress two complete 1st lines.

leafman101
03-25-2013, 01:48 PM
Because he can play center.

Is that why he's spent the majority of his career on the wing? The dude hasn't been a fulltime center since 2005-06.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 01:49 PM
Marleau is as much as a centre as Seguin is.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 01:54 PM
Just the addition of Iginla would make us pretty strong.

The Leafs would be able to dress two complete 1st lines.

BUt he wotn waive to you now.

leafman101
03-25-2013, 01:57 PM
Thanks Jerome.

JaysCyYoung
03-25-2013, 01:57 PM
Jarome.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 01:59 PM
BUt he wotn waive to you now.

Maybe, maybe not.

I know the Kings won the cup last year, but they have the same amount of points as the Leafs this year.

worm
03-25-2013, 02:00 PM
Maybe, maybe not.

I know the Kings won the cup last year, but they have the same amount of points as the Leafs this year.

It is the Sutter connection IMO.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 02:03 PM
I don't know how many "real" contenders there are.

There's so much parity, I wouldn't be surprised to see a cup final between a 7th seed and 4th seed or something like that. Everyone who makes the playoffs has a shot.

Hoss
03-25-2013, 02:03 PM
Murray went for 2 2nd round picks from Pitt to San Jose..

That's pretty steep for a ufa next year. I think Pitt is really raising the price of a guy like Iginla.

There is no way Calgary sees all that going for a player far less valuable than Iginla. Boston is pissed because the price is only going up.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 02:05 PM
Has Pittsburgh really paid a big price though?

They've given up a prospect who will likely be a middle pair/bottom pair NHL defender if he makes it and a couple 2nd rounders. Not any legit assets.

MyNameIsJonas
03-25-2013, 02:06 PM
I don't know how many "real" contenders there are.

There's so much parity, I wouldn't be surprised to see a cup final between a 7th seed and 4th seed or something like that. Everyone who makes the playoffs has a shot.

theres about 4-6....which is why his list is 4 or so.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 02:08 PM
theres about 4-6....which is why his list is 4 or so.

All of whom who could lose in the 1st round.

PITT, BOS, CHI etc didn't get very far last year.

leafman101
03-25-2013, 02:21 PM
Allan Walsh ‏ People looking at analytics on various trades should remember that in the playoffs the golden rule is "teams that block shots win games."

Jonas Siegel ‏ Leaf Report: Leafs embrace 'craziness', lead NHL in blocked shots: http://tsn.ca/leafreport


who is the contender now bitch

Hoss
03-25-2013, 03:57 PM
It seems that Carlyle is taking a bit out of the Rangers playbook last year... but he has the offensive creativity and depth that the Rangers did not have. (granted the Rangers had the goalie last year so they were winning alot of games by 1 goal margin)

Burn the boats is the right motto for this year. They should add "Just Giv'r"

JaysCyYoung
03-25-2013, 06:20 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/524094_10101061880640061_1253657098_n.jpg

hockeylover
03-25-2013, 06:27 PM
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/487865_460453724026821_1573348217_n.jpg

hockeylover
03-25-2013, 06:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fHDgaR4.gif

Getzlaf and Perry throwing a fit.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 06:36 PM
They have it tough. Young rich guys who live in Cali that play for a 1st place team.

hockeylover
03-25-2013, 06:39 PM
Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl 3m
Carolina Hurricanes sign Alex Semin, 5 years at $7 million per #TSN

What's the impact on a Kessel contract?

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 06:41 PM
Cha Ching.

I think he get something comparable to that.

Killer93
03-25-2013, 06:42 PM
Rutherford loves Semin

Volcanologist
03-25-2013, 06:44 PM
Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl 3m
Carolina Hurricanes sign Alex Semin, 5 years at $7 million per #TSN


That's a big load of Semin.

zeke
03-25-2013, 06:46 PM
heh.

zeke
03-25-2013, 06:47 PM
difference being that Kessel is 4 years younger, and we'll be offering him (hopefully) an 8yr contract, which might bring the AAV down a bit.

but it's gonna be in that range for sure.

Feyd
03-25-2013, 06:52 PM
Yikes, dangerous signing by Carolina.

LeafOfFaith
03-25-2013, 06:58 PM
Damn, that's a lot.

They should just do away with the term UFA and call it GFAs from now on. Garbage Free Agents.

No one good will ever make it to UFA anymore.

UWHabs
03-25-2013, 07:02 PM
difference being that Kessel is 4 years younger, and we'll be offering him (hopefully) an 8yr contract, which might bring the AAV down a bit.

but it's gonna be in that range for sure.

Based on stats, Kessel should come in between that contract and the Perry one.

hockeylover
03-25-2013, 08:12 PM
Bouwmeester passes Guy Charron to set NHL record 735 regular season games without playing a playoff game.

leafman101
03-25-2013, 08:30 PM
The difference is Kessel is way better.

Habsy
03-25-2013, 09:20 PM
Semin would have gotten that as UFA anyway.

Hoss
03-25-2013, 10:56 PM
Lightening hire cooper instead of ruff. Whew. If Tampa could get a goalie and play ruffs defensive system they'd be scary

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-25-2013, 11:00 PM
The Lightning have two great players, but that's about it. Little depth on their forward and defense core to go along with shitty goaltending.

JackBurton
03-25-2013, 11:00 PM
Cooper was one of the biggest names in the minors. He was guaranteed to be hired away from Tampa by another team if they didn't make him their new head coach. He made the leash tighter on Boucher.

JackBurton
03-25-2013, 11:01 PM
Agreed. Tampa has 3 "Big Names", and that's it. And Lecavalier isn't as good as he once was. There's no depth, and Yzerman has done jack-shit sinced he's gotten there.

trujaysfan
03-25-2013, 11:08 PM
If Tampa were smart they would try and make a couple "hockey moves" with guys like st louis, and lecavalier now while they still have decent value (vinny may be lower due to contract but i still see teams giving value for him). Move on with Stamkos, hedman, and the younger players.

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-26-2013, 05:19 PM
Lebrun


All eyes are on the Boston Bruins now after fellow Eastern powerhouse Pittsburgh upped the ante with a pair of additions.

But it doesnít change what Boston had planned to do, really.

The plan all along for the Bís was to try to improve both their forward group and their defense corps before the April 3 trade deadline, and that remains the case regardless of what the Penguins did.

"I certainly donít gauge our strategy on what other teams are doing, but Pittsburgh is a very good team and theyíve made themselves better," Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli told ESPN.com Tuesday morning. "It doesnít accelerate anything, you canít force anything; you try to find a fit and you try to improve your team. The Penguins made themselves better. Weíll see in the coming week in a bit how other teams make themselves better, and we plan on doing the same thing."

The Bruins are believed to have made an offer for Brenden Morrow but lost out to the Penguins. The big fish remains Jarome Iginla, the Flames' captain in play, with the likes of Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago and Los Angeles showing interest.

Itís believed the price for Iginla is a first-round pick plus two young assets, a hefty sum, but one I believe the Bruins would be willing to pay.

Regardless, if they canít get Iginla, there are other possibilities. Keep an eye on Ryane Clowe in San Jose, a pending UFA the Sharks will likely move. Heíd fit well in Boston. And while the Dallas Stars are trying to re-sign Jaromir Jagr to keep him for next season, if those talks fail, heíd be another possibility.

Either way, the Morrow deal on Sunday helped loosen up the trade market.

"Certainly, there was a lot more chatter on Monday morning," said Chiarelli. "But thatís how it goes every year. Thereís an ebb and flow."


What's up, Mike Smith?
An under-the-radar story in some ways has been the situation of Mike Smith in Phoenix.

The 31-year-old netminder, coming off a sensational 2011-12 season, is slated for unrestricted free agency in July. Sources say there have been talks between Smithís camp and Coyotes management, but Iíd be pretty surprised if Smith signs before he has a clearer idea of the ownership situation in Phoenix.

Which puts the Coyotes in a bit of a pickle come April if the team continues to fall out of the playoff race. The team has gone winless in six games to fall four points behind the eighth and final playoff spot in the Western Conference. If the Coyotes get to April 3 and Smith remains unsigned, what do they do if teams are calling about him? Do they recoup assets or hang in with him, hoping to get him signed before July 5?

Itíll be interesting to monitor.


A pending pursuit of Clarkson
Alexander Semin's signing Monday night further depleted what will be a meager-looking UFA crop come July 5.

But some intriguing names are still left out there, including two of the gameís premier power forwards.

Weíve talked before about Ryane Clowe and how contract talks with the Sharks havenít produced an extension, so heís looking likely to be dealt before April 3, and thus perhaps will be free-agent bound July 5.

But another name to keep an eye on is David Clarkson. A source told ESPN.com Monday night that the Devils and Clarksonís camp have not talked once this season about an extension, which isnít surprising because veteran GM Lou Lamoriello has often shown heís content to wait until after the season to get that going with his UFAs. And Lamoriello told ESPN.com recently teams should know better than to phone about Clarkson because heís not available.

However, if Lamoriello canít get the center re-signed after the season, there won't be many more desirable players on the market than Clarkson, a top-six goal scorer with toughness and grit. Can you say Edmonton, Montreal, Toronto, Minnesota? So many teams are looking for that kind of player. Itís a good year to be David Clarkson.


Semin rewarded for stepping up
The Carolina Hurricanes certainly raised some eyebrows when they signed winger Alexander Semin to a $35 million, five-year extension Monday night.

But the Hurricanes had seen enough of him in this lockout-shortened season to keep him on board long-term. Signed to a one-year, $7 million deal last summer, Semin has produced a point per game, meshing well with Eric Staal and Jiri Tlusty on the top line.

"Heís given the Hurricanes a dominant first line," veteran Carolina GM Jim Rutherford told ESPN.com Tuesday. "All three of those guys on that line have played well and all deserve credit in their own way as a contributing factor. Alex is an elite player who can put points up, which is always hard to find. Our experience with Alex has been very good, so weíre pleased we could retain him."

Fact is, while some team executives around the league wondered about the term given to Semin, you canít blame Rutherford for wanting to keep the winger. Itís a thin free-agent crop this summer, and Semin would have been very difficult to replace. In fact, the Hurricanes had been looking for that kind of scoring winger for a few years before finally adding him last summer. So they wanted to keep him.

No doubt, there are those who will say Semin is a bad gamble, that the reason Washington kept him on those one-year contracts is because the Capitals didnít trust him enough to stay motivated under a long-term deal.

Well, heís been terrific in Carolina and his teammates like him. Furthermore, nobody batted an eye when Anaheim signed Ryan Getzlaf to an eight-year extension earlier this month, and it just so happens that while the Ducks' captain is on fire this season, he had a pair of disappointing seasons (at least by his standards) before this season.

High-end, offensive talent costs money to keep around. Carolina has no qualms about its decision to retain Semin.

A day after signing Semin, the Hurricanes placed forward Jussi Jokinen on waivers Tuesday. In part it's because the Hurricanes feel good about Riley Nash as their third-line center -- Nash was recalled from the AHL on Monday -- but also in part so the Hurricanes can hopefully get another team to scoop up Jokinen's contract. He's got one more year left on his deal at $3 million next season.



http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/22941/rumblings-all-eyes-now-on-bruins-next-move

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-26-2013, 05:27 PM
Semin scores a lot, but he also comes out looking rosy with the metrics and Carolina, I was reading, leans heavily on metrics, at least more than other teams.

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 11:52 AM
Pierre LeBrun
And @RenLavoieRDS earlier reported broken toe for Letang RT @penguins: #Pens recall defenseman Simon Despres; place Letang on IR.

Penguins may have to make another trade if Letang is out too long.

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 12:04 PM
Oh Calgary....

Bruce Arthur
Mike Keenan said the Flames and Miikka Kiprusoff may have agreed to contravene the salary cap? It could cost Calgary a pick? Flames bingo!

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 12:25 PM
Pierre LeBrun
Boston claims Daugavin off Ottawa

Boy they really loved that ringette move I guess.

Habspatrol
03-27-2013, 12:32 PM
Oh Calgary....

Bruce Arthur
Mike Keenan said the Flames and Miikka Kiprusoff may have agreed to contravene the salary cap? It could cost Calgary a pick? Flames bingo!

Any word on how they did this?

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 12:38 PM
Nothing else has come out yet, but if there is any truth to this we'll hear about it soon.

worm
03-27-2013, 12:39 PM
Any word on how they did this?

Or why Iron Mike doesnt want another NHL job?

worm
03-27-2013, 12:40 PM
Nothing else has come out yet, but if there is any truth to this we'll hear about it soon.

Of course there is truth to it. Just like for Bobby Luo.

What is weird is somebody admiting it. Or was the rat (Keenan) just speculating? Im guessing he would know from the time he was the coach though.

Habspatrol
03-27-2013, 12:44 PM
So basically they signed him for 6 years with the understanding that he's retiring next year when his salary is only $1.5M.

worm
03-27-2013, 12:45 PM
So basically they signed him for 6 years with the understanding that he's retiring next year when his salary is only $1.5M.

I do not understand why this is news...

Hossa, Bobby Luo, etc will all be doing this.... is it because Kipper will be the first one to actually retire?

MindzEye
03-27-2013, 12:50 PM
I do not understand why this is news...

Hossa, Bobby Luo, etc will all be doing this.... is it because Kipper will be the first one to actually retire?


I hope so...that would be awesome if the teams who signed these deals started getting dinged (in addition to the "Luongo Rule" cap hit) as the player's retired.

worm
03-27-2013, 01:19 PM
I hope so...that would be awesome if the teams who signed these deals started getting dinged (in addition to the "Luongo Rule" cap hit) as the player's retired.

Forgot about that! Nice.

Killer93
03-27-2013, 04:15 PM
Ryan Whitney likely headed to Boston

Habspatrol
03-27-2013, 04:18 PM
I do not understand why this is news...

Hossa, Bobby Luo, etc will all be doing this.... is it because Kipper will be the first one to actually retire?

Well yeah, but I'm guessing that it's never actually verbalized and perhaps Iron Mike is saying that it was with the Kipper deal.

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 04:25 PM
Why does Boston want an Oiler healthy scratch?

worm
03-27-2013, 04:32 PM
Why does Boston want an Oiler healthy scratch?

Because Hamilton is no good.

zeke
03-27-2013, 04:47 PM
exactumondo

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-27-2013, 04:55 PM
Hamilton might be a healthy scratch in the playoffs, for at least a few games. In those 2 games against Toronto, he looked shaky defensively, and if the goal is to win the cup, you can't be content with shaky.






Some stuff from Lebrun:


Hereís something important to keep in mind as the Ryane Clowe situation plays itself out before next Wednesdayís trade deadline.

Clowe has a full no-trade clause. The San Jose Sharks have to run this thing by him in order to get a deal done.

Which means if, for whatever reason, Clowe doesnít believe a certain team is a good fit, he can nix it. Although, in the same vein, Sharks GM Doug Wilson did well by Douglas Murray in the move to Pittsburgh, and the sense is that Wilson and Clowe have a good line of communication on whatís transpiring.

A solid playoff performance on a top contender would augment Cloweís UFA market value this summer, so heís not against a trade if it makes sense for him.

Of interest is where Montreal fits into all this. Boston is tracking Clowe, among other players on its short list, as a possibility in case it strikes out on Jarome Iginla.

Clowe, though, is exactly what the Habs need, a power forward to complement the skill they have up front. But GM Marc Bergevin isnít terribly keen, I think, about the idea of giving up prime, future assets for a rental player. He knows his team, despite its success this season, isnít in the all-in mentality of Boston and Pittsburgh when it comes to the trade deadline. And the Canadiens donít have the same depth of prospects in the organization as the Bruins and Penguins do.

The early price on Clowe, Iím told, is a first-round pick and another young asset. Thereís zero chance the Canadiens trade a first-round pick. Bergevin wants to continue to build his base. Heís got the long-term view in mind.

So my sense is that the Canadiens keep tabs on the Clowe situation but, unless the price comes down, theyíre not getting him.

The Rangers are also interested in Clowe.

One more interesting twist here on the Clowe situation: Donít just assume heís 100 percent headed to an Eastern Conference team. Iím told there are Western Conference teams, the Vancouver Canucks among them, that also covet Clowe.

Given that the Sharks may make the playoffs, you wouldnít think Wilson would want Clowe in his own conference come playoff time, but I guess it all comes down to who steps up the most in trade talks.

I know this: Clowe is a warrior. Despite his struggles this season, he would be a big-time addition to any contender. The games become more of a grind in the playoffs and he's the type of guy who excels in that context.


Jokinen clears waivers
Jussi Jokinen cleared waivers Wednesday and that seemed to come as a surprise to many given the reaction on Twitter.

Certainly there are teams out there looking to add a top-nine forward, no question.

But as one NHL GM told ESPN.com Wednesday morning, he would have loved Jokinen more if he were an unrestricted free agent after the season. That extra $3 million left on his deal for next season made him hesitate, so he didnít put in a claim for the player.

Whatís at play here is that the salary cap next season goes down to $64.3 million from this seasonís $70.2 million maximum. Teams will be careful and picky in the kind of dollars they add to next seasonís payroll over the next week.

Itís not over on the Jokinen front though. There are teams interested in him but they want Carolina either to eat some of his salary or take a player back in return.

Meanwhile, how about Boston claiming Kaspars Daugavins off waivers from Ottawa on Wednesday? Heís the same player, of course, who had Bruins players raising their eyebrows earlier this month with a shootout move heard around the world. Now he brings his shootout skills to Beantown. Go figure.


Extension talk with Visnovsky
New York Islanders GM Garth Snow, Iím told, reached out to Lubomir Visnovskyís camp Tuesday to see if there was any interest on the playerís part in talking extension.

Itís not clear whether it will lead to a deal, but agent Neil Sheehyís answer was sure, letís talk.

Visnovsky, 36, is slated for UFA status this summer, a five-year, $28 million deal expiring ($5.6 million cap hit).

If contract talks donít produce a deal, you can bet Snowís phone will ring April 3. As a rental, Visnovsky is the kind of puck-moving blueliner that many playoff-bound clubs covet and, in fact, other teams have already been calling on him.

Of course, the Islanders themselves arenít out of the playoff running -- they pulled off a huge win Tuesday night in Washington -- so Snow might not have any inclination in moving Visnovsky even if heís not signed.


Cowen on the mend?
The Ottawa Senators might make their best late-season addition from within.

Local media were stunned Wednesday when they arrived at the rink and saw Jared Cowen practicing with teammates.

The top-four blueliner originally was expected to be out for the season after undergoing hip surgery in mid-November.

Sens GM Bryan Murray, while watching Cowen skate Wednesday, told ESPN.com over the phone that thereís a possibility of a late April return, although truthfully he said it wasnít clear at this point if/when the player could return.

Still, a welcome sight for the Senators on Wednesday; Cowen has been missed this year.

Tell you what, if the Senators can get Cowen, goalie Craig Anderson and star center Jason Spezza all back in time for the playoffs, hold on to your seats.


Hemsky, again
It wouldnít be a trade deadline without banter about Ales Hemskyís availability. A year ago the rumors were put to bed when Hemsky signed a two-year, $10 million extension. Now his name is surfacing, although almost it seems out of habit in media commentary as opposed to actual signs that the Oilers are shopping him.

I donít think Edmonton is actually going out of its way to shop him, but I do think theyíre taking phone calls on him and at this point, they have to be receptive to many things because the rebuild is lasting a bit longer than the ticket buyers had hoped in Edmonton.

The Oilers want to get tougher/grittier in their top-six forward group and they also need more help on defense. Theyíve got lots of skill in their top-six forward group, but a little more room to skate for Jordan Eberle and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins would go a long way. Acquiring a power forward, however, is easier said than done.

I suspect youíll hear Hemskyís name out there right up to the deadline. Heís got one more year left on his deal at $5 million and he does not have a no-trade clause, so Edmonton is free to do what it wants with him.

No guarantee he moves, though.

Meanwhile, there have been contract talks between the Ladislav Smid camp and Oilers brass. Smid is UFA after the season. Heís a dependable blueliner, but if they canít sign him before April 3 and the Oilers remain out of a playoff spot, he could be a trade target. But the hope with the Oilers right now is to sign him and keep him.


Ribeiro's future
So what do you do if youíre the Washington Capitals?

Mike Ribeiro is a pending UFA who also happens to be leading your team in scoring.

The 33-year-old center told Washington reporters earlier this week that heíd like a long-term deal, whether thatís staying put or hitting the free-agent market.

There has been a conversation between the Caps and Ribeiroís camp and word is veteran agent Don Meehan is slated to circle back to GM George McPhee before the end of the week.

The decision here isnít just intriguing from the Capsí point of view, in terms of whether they want to invest long-term in a 33-year-old Ribeiro. The player has a call to make here, too. The free-agent market isnít terribly deep this summer and he might enter the marketplace as the top-scoring player available.



http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/22972/rumblings-bs-habs-canucks-like-clowe

LeafOfFaith
03-27-2013, 05:46 PM
Who wants a guy with zero goals on the season?

PlayerToBeNamedLater
03-27-2013, 05:51 PM
Lots of teams apparently.

That's what happens when there's big demand and small supply.

LeafGm
03-27-2013, 05:51 PM
Who wants a guy with zero goals on the season?
Well, he is a big gritty veteran forward who has displayed a scoring touch for most of his NHL career before this season. I'm sure there are plenty of teams that'd be interested in him...just not in exchange for a 1st round pick +.

hockeylover
03-27-2013, 06:36 PM
Joe Haggerty ‏@HackswithHaggs 2m
.@CSNNE has confirmed Bruins are engaged in discussions w/Edmonton on a deal that would potentially bring Ryan Whitney and forward to Boston

worm
03-27-2013, 06:38 PM
Interesting...... a forward....

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 06:45 PM
Hemsky.

Killer93
03-27-2013, 06:51 PM
Nugent-Hopkins

Habsy
03-27-2013, 06:52 PM
Paajarvi.

zeke
03-27-2013, 07:01 PM
How long's Kelly out for? maybe they want Horcoff? overpaid but woudl be a perfect 3rd line C.

Habsy
03-27-2013, 07:04 PM
Yeah Horcoff would be a good deadline acquisition . Hope they don't get him.

hockeylover
03-27-2013, 07:20 PM
SN 590 The FAN ‏@FAN590 58s
Eugene Melnyk told PTS that Matt Cooke's hit on Erik Karlsson was intentional and that he's putting a case together to prove that to the NHL

Oh my god, so embarrassing. He claims he can prove it with "forensic science".

Seems to have started a twitter trend: #CSIOttawa

Deckie007
03-27-2013, 07:22 PM
SN 590 The FAN ‏@FAN590 58s
Eugene Melnyk told PTS that Matt Cooke's hit on Erik Karlsson was intentional and that he's putting a case together to prove that to the NHL

Oh my god, so embarrassing.

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/wsg/image/1339/13/1339130665071.gif

zeke
03-27-2013, 07:23 PM
#CSIOttawa

heh

hockeylover
03-27-2013, 07:34 PM
Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown 56s
Imagine the stuff Melnyk wants to say that the Senators PR guys successfully talk him out of.

MindzEye
03-27-2013, 07:35 PM
Remember when Sens fans used to tell us that we would kill to have an owner like Eugene?

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 07:41 PM
Mike Ilitch >> Eugene

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 07:58 PM
Joe Haggerty
Hearing Alex Khokhlachev a late scratch for @AHLBruins vs the Portland Pirates. Sounds like B's think something about to go down #BruinsTalk

Killer93
03-27-2013, 08:04 PM
Iginla likely scratched tonight; begin mass speculation

fergy57
03-27-2013, 08:05 PM
Calm your tits, it's a maintenance day.

Calgary probably just trolling.

Volcanologist
03-27-2013, 08:09 PM
SN 590 The FAN ‏@FAN590 58s
Eugene Melnyk told PTS that Matt Cooke's hit on Erik Karlsson was intentional and that he's putting a case together to prove that to the NHL

Oh my god, so embarrassing. He claims he can prove it with "forensic science".

Seems to have started a twitter trend: #CSIOttawa

"Oh it was deliberate all right, Gary. I think you'll find that my evidence...cuts straight to the heart of this case"

YYYYYYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 08:09 PM
Nick Kypreos
Strong sense I'm getting from some, #Flames Iginla may not be dressing for tonites game vs #Aves. #TradeTracker

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 08:10 PM
Bob McKenzie
I'm told Jarome Iginla will not be dressed tonight vs. COL but that doesn't necessarily mean deal is imminent or close. Protecting the asset

That seems silly? Are you gonna scratch him for a whole week?

MyNameIsJonas
03-27-2013, 08:33 PM
Khochlachev scratched for Providence tonight.

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 08:35 PM
And Bartkowski was scratched too.

Khocklachev, Bartkowski, and a 1st for Jarome?

MyNameIsJonas
03-27-2013, 08:39 PM
And Bartkowski was scratched too.

Khocklachev, Bartkowski, and a 1st for Jarome?

Makes sense...but i'd like to think if they hold out they can get more.

I just dont want him in L.A.

Metalleaf
03-27-2013, 08:40 PM
Daren Millard
Buffalo is asking about Tampa Bay. Ryan Miller is in play. More to come. #sportsnet #TradeTracker

Bleedsblue&white
03-27-2013, 08:43 PM
"Oh it was deliberate all right, Gary. I think you'll find that my evidence...cuts straight to the heart of this case"

YYYYYYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

And we all know Cooke has a tendoncy to play on the edge.

trujaysfan
03-27-2013, 08:46 PM
Daren Millard
Buffalo is asking about Tampa Bay. Ryan Miller is in play. More to come. #sportsnet #TradeTracker

What? Buffalo is asking Tampa if they want Ryan Miller?