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Locke
01-10-2014, 08:50 AM
He would be a nice fit considering the leafs' personnel.

Plus, he's available.

Killer93
01-10-2014, 09:09 AM
Would rather go for Dale Hunter (long shot) or even Pat Quinn.

But honestly would be absolutely shocked if they made a coaching change, I think we will see a shake-up trade where one or both of Gardiner/Kadri are moved before the coach goes.

Pronger84
01-10-2014, 09:21 AM
1. Hunter likely will never come here, the guy wants to be with the Knights, and besides if he really wanted to coach in the NHL he'd stick with the Caps
2. I havent always been big on Kadri but trading him doesn't fix the big issues on this team, and also he's 23 and just played his first full NHL season last year give the kid some time to develop before writing him off. Gardiner yea get rid of him, we already have a better version of him in Rielly and one who doesn't make stupid decisions with the puck and also knows how to play defense, I'd trade Gardiner for whatever the first sucker is willing to pony up.
3. Quinn isn't the answer, he employs a very similar system to Randy and not just that he has a rep for not being good with the younger players.

MyNameIsJonas
01-10-2014, 09:50 AM
Savard,Denis

TimHorton
01-10-2014, 09:54 AM
Nobody wants Denis Savard.

leafman101
01-10-2014, 09:58 AM
I don't remember who mentioned it in the other thread but Guy Boucher would be high on my list. The guy is really smart and creative and in Tampa we saw the ups and embarrassments of that. But sometimes guys fail on their first shot and then figure things out.

MindzEye
01-10-2014, 10:00 AM
It would also leave one less coach out there who has the book on Reimer.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 10:01 AM
Both boucher and savard are trap coaches I believe.

LeafGm
01-10-2014, 10:07 AM
Nobody wants Denis Savard.
This. I'm not sure why PhonyPony's pushing for him so hard. During his 12 year tenure as an assistant and head coach with the Hawks, they were an abysmal team for the entire time that he was there. It's also pretty rare that good former NHL players actually make good coaches, and Savard also hasn't coached a game at any level in any capacity since the Hawks fired him in 2008. Dumb suggestion.

As for who we should get, I love Pat Quinn and wish we'd never fired him, but the guy's 70 years old and he's only coached one season out of the last 8 years. Would he even want to get back into coaching? If so, I wouldn't mind giving him the job for the rest of the season and then deciding what to do from there.

For a more permanent solution, Laviolette would be good. The guy's got a pretty impressive resume---he actually managed to get the Islanders into the playoffs for two years in a row to start his head coaching career. Then he won the Cup and made it to the finals in his next two coaching stops. I'm not a fan of Guy Boucher---the ridiculous trapping system he tried to implement in Tampa was an embarassment to the league.

Habspatrol
01-10-2014, 10:26 AM
Therrien should be out of a job soon (fingers crossed) he'd be a great fit for the Leafs. Teach them all about "respeck" and "team concep."

Volcanologist
01-10-2014, 10:27 AM
and don't forget not being soff. very important.

Habspatrol
01-10-2014, 10:31 AM
Oh yeah, for sure.

He could really teach Rielly how to play a team concep while having respeck and not being soff by benching him and publicly ripping him for every mistake he makes... even after he wins a Norris and makes the Olympic team.

MyNameIsJonas
01-10-2014, 10:32 AM
is John Stevens, the Philly guy, currently employed?

IrishWolfman
01-10-2014, 10:33 AM
Guy Boucher would probably be the best option for the Leafs at this point in time.

leafman101
01-10-2014, 10:41 AM
I'm not a fan of Guy Boucher---the ridiculous trapping system he tried to implement in Tampa was an embarassment to the league.

Yeah it was. But that is the kind of hockey that really suits this team. You can't win being a run and gun team, but if you play sound, defense first hockey with the Leafs skill you can be a great counter punch team that is able to capitalize on their opportunities. Kind of like how the Sens played when they had Yashin, Hossa, Havlat, and Alfie.

IrishWolfman
01-10-2014, 10:51 AM
Yeah it was. But that is the kind of hockey that really suits this team. You can't win being a run and gun team, but if you play sound, defense first hockey with the Leafs skill you can be a great counter punch team that is able to capitalize on their opportunities. Kind of like how the Sens played when they had Yashin, Hossa, Havlat, and Alfie.

Or the Devils during the Elias, Mogilny, Arnott, Sykora era.

JaysCyYoung
01-10-2014, 11:48 AM
Not a fan of Laviolette at all.

blacksheep
01-10-2014, 11:59 AM
Dale Hunter is exactly what these kids need, but it's not likely at all.
Laviolette would improve upon Carlyle, but he's not my first choice.
Can we pry Larry Robinson away and get him here?

trujaysfan
01-10-2014, 12:10 PM
Quinn

SENSible
01-10-2014, 12:29 PM
Oh yeah, for sure.

He could really teach Rielly how to play a team concep while having respeck and not being soff by benching him and publicly ripping him for every mistake he makes... even after he wins a Norris and makes the Olympic team.

PK is a douche and as a result is hated by his coach, teammates and opponents.

I'm sure you'll say it is because everyone is racist.

JackBurton
01-11-2014, 10:22 AM
Guy Boucher. time to get a defensive coach.

It makes no sense to be an NHL coach for Dale Hunter. He takes a massive paycut to leave the Knights to coach in the NHL. He's in a unique situation with London.

JackBurton
01-11-2014, 10:26 AM
This. I'm not sure why PhonyPony's pushing for him so hard. During his 12 year tenure as an assistant and head coach with the Hawks, they were an abysmal team for the entire time that he was there. It's also pretty rare that good former NHL players actually make good coaches, and Savard also hasn't coached a game at any level in any capacity since the Hawks fired him in 2008. Dumb suggestion.

As for who we should get, I love Pat Quinn and wish we'd never fired him, but the guy's 70 years old and he's only coached one season out of the last 8 years. Would he even want to get back into coaching? If so, I wouldn't mind giving him the job for the rest of the season and then deciding what to do from there.

For a more permanent solution, Laviolette would be good. The guy's got a pretty impressive resume---he actually managed to get the Islanders into the playoffs for two years in a row to start his head coaching career. Then he won the Cup and made it to the finals in his next two coaching stops. I'm not a fan of Guy Boucher---the ridiculous trapping system he tried to implement in Tampa was an embarassment to the league.

But do we give a rat's ass? If we win that's all that matters.

Habsy
01-11-2014, 10:44 AM
PK is a douche and as a result is hated by his coach, teammates and opponents.

I'm sure you'll say it is because everyone is racist.

His coach is a mental midget that is hated by his team and fans. Granted he is loved by his opponents because he is so ****ing stupid.

LeafGm
01-11-2014, 12:27 PM
But do we give a rat's ass? If we win that's all that matters.
Look, I want the Leafs to win, but the reason I started watching hockey in the first place was because it's entertaining. So, I don't really have any interest in watching a team coached by a nutless twit that thought this style of "hockey" was a good idea:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEKE8QTbDTs

It's always worth noting that once Laviolette exposed Boucher's passive defensive system, the Lightning cratered and fell out of the playoffs and then started like a bottom-5 team the next season, and Boucher had absolutely no answer for it.

TimHorton
01-11-2014, 12:29 PM
Couldn't agree more LeafGM, I don't get the Boucher love at all. He's a fraud that's been exposed.

leafman101
01-11-2014, 12:33 PM
It's always worth noting that once Laviolette exposed Boucher's passive defensive system, the Lightning cratered and fell out of the playoffs and then started like a bottom-5 team the next season, and Boucher had absolutely no answer for it.

Yeah, but lets be realistic. Every coach that has been fired has failed in the past.

What I like about Boucher is his creativity and hockey IQ. Sure it didn't last, but he was able to see something that let him develop a pretty unique system and let a team to the 3rd round. That was some impressive coaching. He needed to adapt quicker, but you have to think the guy learned from his experience in Tampa. Thats what experience does. So he should be better for it.

Plus Tampa was really shit because they had the worst goaltending in the league (.889 in 11-12 was 30th overall, and .899 last year tied for 24th). Don't have much of a chance with that kind of Toskala-esq goaltending. They stank until they got Bishop.

BG
01-11-2014, 12:34 PM
I don't know, I give kudos to coaches for trying new things... and while they are all known for particular styles of play, that isn't to say that they can't/won't adapt.

MindzEye
01-11-2014, 12:55 PM
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of trap hockey by any stretch, but Boucher's undoing in Tampa was the shitty goaltending he was given to work with.

IrishWolfman
01-11-2014, 01:00 PM
I, personally, don't give a damn what style we play as long as we win. If the coach tells the forecheckers to screech like baboons before making a hit and it leads to a ten game winning streak, I'll be happy.

JackBurton
01-11-2014, 01:01 PM
We haven't had a truly defensive coach in 19 years since Burns was fired. I think it's time to go in that direction for a change. Is it fun to watch? Nope. But I think the team will be better for it.

Hitch**** is a great defensive coach who's been fired a few times now. But he's always bounced-back with his new team. Boucher may have looked exposed after a while in Tampa, but I don't buy he can't return to the NHl and succeed again.

Leafin'
01-11-2014, 01:07 PM
I just want this team to play good and win dammit!

I don't care who the coach is, so long as we win!

zeke
01-11-2014, 03:55 PM
I want Wilson back.

We were a good team under Wilson even with less talent than we have now, we just had godawful goaltending.

MindzEye
01-11-2014, 05:52 PM
I want Wilson back.

We were a good team under Wilson even with less talent than we have now, we just had godawful goaltending.

One of the reasons we had shit goaltending was Wilson's insistence on playing Reimer behind Giguere & Gusto...as you very astutely bitched and moaned about back in the day.

Not to mention his complete distaste for Kadri

We need new blood.

CH1
01-11-2014, 05:58 PM
Screw Wilson. You guys need a coach who understands d, but kindly lay off Boucher as Habs will need him when they fire Therrien next season.

JackBurton
01-11-2014, 06:32 PM
Screw Wilson. You guys need a coach who understands d, but kindly lay off Boucher as Habs will need him when they fire Therrien next season.

No doubt. Boucher is in-line to be the next Habs coach.

Leafyblue
01-11-2014, 06:33 PM
Zeke made a funny. :)

Leafin'
01-11-2014, 06:40 PM
HOw will they get rid of a coach that is winning?

When's the last time that has happened?

ForeverTML
01-11-2014, 06:46 PM
Granted I dont watch habs games but yeah, their record and play seems to be good enough to make the playoffs, good luck firing the coach there.

I am absolutely dumbfounded on how the leafs have regresssed from last year and heck like zeke said from the Wilson years with a better roster?

Zambini
01-12-2014, 12:04 AM
Davis Payne.

number17
01-12-2014, 12:04 AM
People almost forget how bad Wilson was as a coach - FOR TORONTO.

Wilson had crappy goaltending, and maybe he didn't realize what he had in Reimer, who knows? But his biggest problem was his arrogance and his constant feud with the media, with his players ... He didn't work out in Toronto and he will not work in Toronto.

Firing the coach might be the easy way out and as much as I see a lot of flaws in Carlyle, the problem is he might be the best coach we can have right now.

And - I think coaching is overrated at times when the team is winning, and also overrated when the team is losing. Coaching makes a difference, but it's the players who determine the W and L on the ice at the end of the day.

Habs_Lifer
01-12-2014, 12:12 AM
HOw will they get rid of a coach that is winning?

When's the last time that has happened?

Claude Julien, New Jersey Devils. Fired 2 weeks prior to playoffs despite leading the division and being 2nd in the East.

LeafGm
01-12-2014, 12:25 AM
I want Wilson back.

We were a good team under Wilson even with less talent than we have now, we just had godawful goaltending.
You do remember how Wilson left Kadri to rot in the minors while he gifted a ton of ice-time and opportunity to other centers like Matthew Lombardi, Tim ****ing Brent and John Mitchell, right? Remember the season-long experiment with TFB manning the point on the power-play? Remember him constantly throwing our players under the bus to the media? Remember him sending Reimer back down to the minors when Giguere and Gustavsson had been crapping the bed all season?

Give your head a shake.

zeke
01-12-2014, 12:31 AM
yeah i wasn't being totally serious.

that being said, i blame much of Wilson's personnel choices on him trying to please Burke. That includes his addiction to giguere/gus, and his persistence with the Tim Brents and such as a third line.

Habsy
01-12-2014, 05:08 PM
I'm sure some of you are upset that Maurice isn't available anymore.

Feyd
01-12-2014, 09:14 PM
One thing that stands out from the horrible JFJ/Maurice reign for me was how gutless the team played. No backbone, no standing up for teammates. Sad, sad, sad.

Leafin'
01-12-2014, 09:39 PM
Team was pretty trash. i recall Matt Stajan as our 1st line centre for a bit.

Pronger84
01-12-2014, 10:29 PM
One thing that stands out from the horrible JFJ/Maurice reign for me was how gutless the team played. No backbone, no standing up for teammates. Sad, sad, sad.

Its funny flashfoward 8 years later and we're all those thing u listed! This leafs team plays with no maturity and no desire to win, they can't hold a lead to save their lives, nobody on this roster sticks up for each other anymore either.