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Killer93
01-10-2014, 11:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjO-uaADEEU


All eyes will be on the Leafs tonight after a disaster in Carolina last night. Predicting a 3-2 shootout loss or another blow out loss.

TimHorton
01-10-2014, 11:55 AM
A generous 54 for Todd Gill

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-10-2014, 03:23 PM
7-2 Caps

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-10-2014, 03:24 PM
I loved NHL 93 and 94. Good times.

zeke
01-10-2014, 03:58 PM
Caps are struggling badly too, so there's no reason not to win this.


anyways, I've given up on Randy and his roster selections, so I'm just going to pretend we're going to ice our best lineup tonight with these lines:

(Caps lines should be accurate at least)





Line 1

C T.Bozak (27): 21gms, 6gls, 17pts, 35ht, 16bk, 20:50 (82gms, 23gls, 66pts, 137ht, 63bk) - 47.8fo%
C M.Grabovski (29): 41gms, 12gls, 31pts, 14ht, 20bk, 16:05 (82gms, 24gls, 62pts, 28ht, 40bk) - 54.5fo%

W P.Kessel (26): 45gms, 20gls, 38pts, 17ht, 10bk, 20:15 (82gms, 36gls, 69pts, 31ht, 18bk)
W A.Ovechkin (28): 41gms, 31gls, 44pts, 120ht, 13bk, 21:06 (82gms, 62gls, 88pts, 240ht, 26bk)

W J.VanRyk (24): 43gms, 15gls, 31pts, 77ht, 12bk, 20:53 (82gms, 29gls, 59pts, 147ht, 23bk)
W E.Fehr (28): 34gms, 8gls, 19pts, 34ht, 16bk, 14:43 (82gms, 19gls, 46pts, 82ht, 39bk)

Line 2

C N.Kadri (23): 41gms, 11gls, 26pts, 88ht, 19bk, 17:40 (82gms, 22gls, 52pts, 176ht, 38bk) - 43.6fo%
C N.Backstrom (26): 43gms, 10gls, 47pts, 53ht, 30bk, 20:03 (82gms, 19gls, 90pts, 101ht, 57bk) - 48.6fo%

W J.Lupul (30): 36gms, 14gls, 24pts, 72ht, 13bk, 18:11 (82gms, 32gls, 55pts, 164ht, 30bk)
W T.Brouwer (28): 43gms, 9gls, 19pts, 123ht, 17bk, 18:38 (82gms, 17gls, 36pts, 235ht, 32bk)

W N.Kulemin (27): 33gms, 5gls, 11pts, 69ht, 30bk, 16:02 (82gms, 12gls, 27pts, 172ht, 75bk)
W B.Laich (30): 29gms, 4gls, 7pts, 34ht, 24bk, 17:30 (82gms, 11gls, 20pts, 96ht, 68bk)

Line 3

C P.Holland (22): 26gms, 6gls, 10pts, 26ht, 15bk, 11:50 (82gms, 19gls, 32pts, 82ht, 47bk) - 45.2fo%
C M.Johansson (23): 43gms, 7gls, 29pts, 25ht, 15bk, 17:49 (82gms, 13gls, 55pts, 48ht, 29bk) - 34.4fo%

W M.Raymond (28): 45gms, 12gls, 28pts, 21ht, 12bk, 17:51 (82gms, 22gls, 51pts, 38ht, 22bk)
W J.Ward (33): 43gms, 12gls, 25pts, 25ht, 36bk, 16:35 (82gms, 23gls, 48pts, 48ht, 69bk)

W D.Clarkson (29): 32gms, 3gls, 8pts, 97ht, 21bk, 16:25 (82gms, 8gls, 21pts, 249ht, 54bk)
W J.Chimera (34): 43gms, 7gls, 21pts, 76ht, 16bk, 15:35 (82gms, 13gls, 40pts, 57ht, 31bk)

Line 4

C J.McClem (30): 44gms, 1gls, 5pts, 86ht, 29bk, 16:47 (82gms, 2gls, 9pts, 160ht, 54bk) - 54.3fo%
C J.Beagle (28): 23gms, 0gls, 2pts, 35ht, 11bk, 9:42 (82gms, 0gls, 7pts, 125ht, 39bk) - 57.4fo%

W J.D'Amigo (22): 17gms, 1gls, 2pts, 18ht, 4bk, 8:13 (82gms, 5gls, 10pts, 87ht, 19bk)
W T.Wilson (19): 43gms, 1gls, 4pts, 97ht, 6bk, 7:02 (82gms, 2gls, 8pts, 185ht, 11bk)

W C.Ashton (22): 19gms, 0gls, 1pts, 32ht, 5bk, 7:05 (82gms, 0gls, 4pts, 138ht, 22bk)
W A.Volpatti (28): 33gms, 2gls, 2pts, 56ht, 8bk, 7:20 (82gms, 5gls, 5pts, 139ht, 20bk)




Pair 1

D D.Phaneuf (28): 43gms, 4gls, 17pts, 114ht, 82bk, 24:24 (82gms, 8gls, 32pts, 217ht, 156bk)
D J.Carlson (23): 43gms, 7gls, 16pts, 39ht, 90bk, 24:41 (82gms, 13gls, 31pts, 74ht, 172bk)

D C.Gunnar (27): 44gms, 0gls, 4pts, 95ht, 97bk, 19:47 (82gms, 0gls, 8pts, 177ht, 181bk)
D K.Alzner (25): 43gms, 1gls, 9pts, 33ht, 70bk, 21:18 (82gms, 2gls, 17pts, 63ht, 134bk)

Pair 2

D C.Franson (26): 43gms, 2gls, 20pts, 166ht, 67bk, 21:38 (82gms, 4gls, 38pts, 317ht, 128bk)
D M.Green (28): 40gms, 5gls, 23pts, 35ht, 63bk, 23:09 (82gms, 10gls, 47pts, 72ht, 129bk)

D J.Gardiner (23): 43gms, 2gls, 13pts, 67ht, 44bk, 21:39 (82gms, 4gls, 25pts, 128ht, 84bk)
D D.Orlov (22): 17gms, 1gls, 3pts, 21ht, 21bk, 19:36 (82gms, 5gls, 15pts, 101ht, 101bk)

Pair 3

D M.Rielly (19): 36gms, 1gls, 12pts, 62ht, 56bk, 17:56 (82gms, 2gls, 27pts, 141ht, 128bk)
D S.Oleksy (27): 33gms, 2gls, 10pts, 46ht, 48bk, 15:15 (82gms, 5gls, 25pts, 114ht, 119bk)

D P.Ranger (29): 36gms, 2gls, 9pts, 81ht, 46bk, 18:55 (82gms, 5gls, 21pts, 185ht, 105bk)
D J.Erskine (33): 18gms, 0gls, 1pts, 31ht, 29bk, 15:46 (82gms, 0gls, 5pts, 141ht, 132bk)



Starting Goalies

G J.Bernier (25): 31gms, 13-13-4, 2.58gaa, 1so, .926sv%
G B.Holtby (24): 28gms, 13-11-2, 3.08gaa, 1so, .910sv%

Backup Goalies

G J.Reimer (25): 20gms, 8-6-1, 3.08gaa, 1so, .918sv%
G P.Grubauer (22): 12gms, 6-2-3, 2.27gaa, 0so, .931sv%



Unavailable

C D.Bolland (27): 15gms, 6gls, 10pts, 26ht, 9bk, 16:15 (82gms, 33gls, 55pts, 142ht, 49bk) - 41.3fo%
C T.Smith (28): 24gms, 4gls, 9pts, 40ht, 15bk, 10:50 (82gms, 14gls, 31pts, 137ht, 51bk) - 45.9fo%

C M.Latta (22): 17gms, 1gls, 4pts, 14ht, 2bk, 7:42 (82gms, 5gls, 19pts, 68ht, 10bk) - 52.2fo%
D J.Hillen (27): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, 2ht, 0bk, 9:46 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 82ht, 0bk)

number17
01-10-2014, 04:42 PM
It wasn't just a 6-1 loss to the bubble Canes.

It's 2 blunders in the last 3 games - less than a week from the 7-1 rape in the hands of the Rangers.

I hope we lose BIG tonight to the struggling Caps. I hope this forces some meaningful changes within the team.

The slide we've gone on is a LOT more than loss of Bolland can account for, as much as I think Bolland's injury is a factor.

In today's Globe, Mirtle publicly criticized many of Randy's decisions, a lot of them are very much warranted :-

- Constantly benching puck moving defensemen like Gardiner and Reilly to make room for big body defensemen like Fraser, Ranger, both of which are a big reason why this team continues to give the puck away and continues to be among the worst teams in the league for puck possession

- Continues to stubbornly dress goons night after nights, guys who he is reluctant to play in games like Orr's 34 sec of icetime in the 1st period last night. This puts tremendous pressure and workload on the other 9 forwards and limits his options when forwards struggles offensively and defensively.

- Underperforming special teams are directly the coach's responsibility

- Teams often look unmotivated in beginning of games, despite HBO catching Randy saying "It's nobody but your own job to motivate yourself" ... public belief is unmotivated and unprepared teams are coach's downfall

Pronger84
01-10-2014, 05:05 PM
No reason to not win this right, just like we should have beat the Rangers who were on the 2nd half of a back to back or how about the Islanders who played the night before and didn't get into their hotel until 3am or Carolina a team below us in the standings? Right until the Leafs learn how to grow the hell up they have no business winning any game this season.

leafman101
01-10-2014, 06:10 PM
Just show up. Thats all I'm asking for. Pretty low expectations.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 06:38 PM
Grabo scores tonight?

Volcanologist
01-10-2014, 06:48 PM
well of course.

Killer93
01-10-2014, 07:04 PM
Gleason/Franson will be a nice pairing….

Bleedsblue&white
01-10-2014, 07:07 PM
I bet their sticks are all embedded with their glove-prints.

CRL
01-10-2014, 07:08 PM
So by sitting Fraser Carlile admitted that he is an idiot?

Killer93
01-10-2014, 07:13 PM
So by sitting Fraser Carlile admitted that he is an idiot?

Pretty much

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 07:22 PM
oh god, pk against the #1 pp in the league. Yikes.

zeke
01-10-2014, 07:26 PM
Good lookimg pk. Love the way we shadow ovie.

Killer93
01-10-2014, 07:27 PM
Yep solid PK to kick things off

Hoss
01-10-2014, 07:32 PM
that was a god awful PP though... three almost breakaways for the caps. The skating from the back end has been bad lately from almost all of them.

zeke
01-10-2014, 07:41 PM
Game is there for the taking.

Volcanologist
01-10-2014, 07:43 PM
alright, well that was a decent period other than our usual inability to score. big kill on the caps powerplay.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 07:49 PM
Mo shats

zeke
01-10-2014, 07:50 PM
Franson 8:12 (24:36)
Gleason 7:22 (22:06)

Phaneuf 7:34 (22:42)
Gunnar 5:55 (17:45)

Gardiner 6:15 (18:45)
Rielly 4:42 (14:06)

Montana
01-10-2014, 07:52 PM
Liking the look of these three pairings so far....aside from the odd poor line change.

zeke
01-10-2014, 07:55 PM
Bozak 7:51 (23:33) - 7/11 63.6
Kessel 6:50 (20:30)
Vanryk 6:51 (20:33)

Kadri 5:34 (16:42) - 3/6 50.0
Lupul 5:10 (15:30)
Raymond 5:23 (16:09)

Mcclem 5:52 (17:39) - 4/6 66.7
Kulemin 4:08 (12:24)
Clarkson 3:52 (11:36)

Ashton 1:48 (5:24) - 1/2 50.0
Damigo 2:37 (7:51)
Orr 2:03 (6:09)

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:04 PM
It's crazy how bad wecare on our own halfboards. It causes 90% of our defensive problems.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:06 PM
Erskine better get extra.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:06 PM
Good. He did.

Hoss
01-10-2014, 08:08 PM
should have gotten more for "accidently" hitting the ref.... keep that shiite in check.

CRL
01-10-2014, 08:11 PM
woooooow

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:11 PM
We are unbelievably bad on our halfboards.

Feyd
01-10-2014, 08:12 PM
Dagger in the heart.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 08:12 PM
heh ovie left alone

PKForce81
01-10-2014, 08:12 PM
JVR in on it once again.

Volcanologist
01-10-2014, 08:12 PM
Franson is a lazy rat****ing piece of shit.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:13 PM
Nice hard pinch by gards to earn that penalty.

Killer93
01-10-2014, 08:13 PM
MacWilliam > Franson

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:15 PM
that was more gleason than franson imo

CRL
01-10-2014, 08:16 PM
at least we gonna lose with less than 4 goals down

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 08:16 PM
JVR just stood there though. Board support yeah, but he literally stood still.

CRL
01-10-2014, 08:16 PM
that was more gleason than franson imo

agreed

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:18 PM
Gards/rielly needs more pp time

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:18 PM
Phew. Big goal.

Feyd
01-10-2014, 08:18 PM
You can come out of the box now GRABO.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:19 PM
What a weird (but excellent) tip.

Hoss
01-10-2014, 08:19 PM
We are unbelievably bad on our halfboards.

Sad how you mentioned it earlier and they get one right off another weak play on your half boards.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:20 PM
Weak call. You're allowed to hit the guy.

CRL
01-10-2014, 08:23 PM
love D'Amigo

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:26 PM
Well gleason is definitely better than fraser at least.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:33 PM
Thattaboy carter

Feyd
01-10-2014, 08:33 PM
Well gleason is definitely better than fraser at least.
For the money he's getting I would hope so.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:34 PM
Thattaboy colton.

CRL
01-10-2014, 08:35 PM
Orr lost ability to fight and didn't get ability to play

Hoss
01-10-2014, 08:35 PM
Orr had to have heard it yesterday watching Lupul get into a fight yesterday and now watching Ashton drop them again.

This has been Orr's first fight in a long ass time.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:39 PM
****.

Huge PK here.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:41 PM
Wow ovie missed.

Feyd
01-10-2014, 08:42 PM
Ovie has a helluva slapshot. Wow.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:43 PM
Good first, better second.

Edit: rielly almost killed us there

Montana
01-10-2014, 08:45 PM
Hell of a game so far from Bernier, hopefully the boys can take advantage of it here in the third and get us a goddamn win in regulation.

mbow30
01-10-2014, 08:46 PM
franson has such a lethal combination of lazy/stupid.

on the rielly play he just hung on to hte puck for too long. he just needs to learn waht he can and can't get away with in the nhl.

but franson's just ****ing retarded. how do you give up 2 on 1's shorthanded?

it's so pathetic.

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:48 PM
Phaneuf 15:27 (23:11)
Gunnar 12:09 (18:14)

Franson 14:42 (22:03)
Gleason 14:27 (21:41)

Gardiner 13:16 (19:54)
Rielly 10:14 (15:21)

zeke
01-10-2014, 08:55 PM
Bozak 14:36 (21:54) - 63%
Kessel 13:42 (20:33)
Vanryk 14:22 (21:33)

Mcclem 13:00 (19:30) - 64%
Kulemin 10:02 (15:03)
Clarkson 7:58 (11:57)

Kadri 9:51 (14:46) - 50%
Raymond 10:14 (15:21)
Lupul 8:54 (13:21)

Ashton 2:45 (4:08) - 67%
Damigo 5:26 (8:09)
Orr 3:05 (4:38)

PKForce81
01-10-2014, 08:58 PM
Hell of a game so far from Bernier, hopefully the boys can take advantage of it here in the third and get us a goddamn win in regulation.

Great so far although to be fair he hasn't had that much to do(compared to how bad we usually look on d).

Leafyblue
01-10-2014, 08:58 PM
At least the Leafs aren't sucking tonight. Nice to watch hockey for a change.

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:03 PM
finally.

CRL
01-10-2014, 09:03 PM
jeez Kessel is crazy

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:03 PM
just keep your foot on the gas boys

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:04 PM
Snipes.

Now prepare yourselves for a heavy heavy dose of jay mcselke the rest of the way.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:05 PM
Damn. Nice save.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:07 PM
Nice ****ing backcheck phil.

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:07 PM
nice pass by gleason to spring bozak. got the puck up ice quickly to the open man, in stride. hope the other guys were taking notes.

CRL
01-10-2014, 09:09 PM
ladies and gentleman, Cody Franson

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:09 PM
****ing bullshit

Feyd
01-10-2014, 09:10 PM
lol @ Franson

Leafyblue
01-10-2014, 09:10 PM
oops

Montana
01-10-2014, 09:10 PM
f*ck sakes

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:11 PM
Stupid pass by gleason, stupid pass by mcselke, brutes by franson.

The man broke his ****ing stick and we still panicked under his pressure.

Hoss
01-10-2014, 09:11 PM
Gleason is fast enough to move his skate out of the way and Mcselke isn't.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:11 PM
standing around. but hey we scored more than 1 goal. ****ing mcclemment.

Killer93
01-10-2014, 09:12 PM
Franson is balls

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:13 PM
how was that not a penalty? grabovski had his stick in kessel's hands for 5 seconds

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:14 PM
Clarkson is a pylon. Useless on a checking line.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:14 PM
jay mcclement is our 2nd line center.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:17 PM
Looong commercial break....time for more mcselke!

Nice icing, clarkie!

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:20 PM
Nice tip, mcselke.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:21 PM
love you clarkson.

CRL
01-10-2014, 09:21 PM
good timing David

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:21 PM
Beauty backcheck, clarkie!

Love our dominant checking line.

Who wants to bet on us killing this one?Be

PKForce81
01-10-2014, 09:21 PM
Way too many dumb players on this team.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:21 PM
So ****ing lucky.

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:22 PM
d'amigo has to take that to the net.

Hoss
01-10-2014, 09:23 PM
If he takes that into Neuvirth he gets a penalty.

Hoss
01-10-2014, 09:23 PM
GODDDAAMMMITTT

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:23 PM
If he takes that into Neuvirth he gets a penalty.

you cut to the net there. every time.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:23 PM
Carlyle deserves it. He's a ****ing idiot.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:23 PM
and the night is complete.

this team is just awful

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:24 PM
if clarkson could skate he strips that puck from ovechkin.

i can't believe we were the team stupid enough to pay that guy.

Leafyblue
01-10-2014, 09:25 PM
oh darn

Killer93
01-10-2014, 09:25 PM
3rd period bernier

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:25 PM
Dsmmit lupul

Montana
01-10-2014, 09:26 PM
this one really stings.

Feyd
01-10-2014, 09:26 PM
Clarkson has played one good period this season. One Period. Not even a complete game, yet.

$5.2M/yr.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:26 PM
Why the **** is mcclement on the ice randy?

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:28 PM
lupul needs to pass that puck.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:30 PM
Our checking/2nd line gives up the tying goal, then takes the penalty for the winning goal.

Way to go randy way to go.

CRL
01-10-2014, 09:31 PM
empty net goal coming soon to your tv's

Montana
01-10-2014, 09:34 PM
F*ck, that would have been a beauty goal/play had JVR buried that.

Leafyblue
01-10-2014, 09:35 PM
Capital broadcast commercial...Cap Pack..2 upper level tickets x 2 games with autographed puck...129 bucks.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:36 PM
What does clarkson do?

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:39 PM
Clarkson the extra attacker.

So ****ing awesome.

Feyd
01-10-2014, 09:39 PM
heh, Clarkson as the 6th attacker.

CRL
01-10-2014, 09:40 PM
What does clarkson do?

he plays while net is empty... crazy

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:40 PM
Must have wanted to reward him for the penalty that cost us this game.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:40 PM
unbelievable what in the actual **** is randy thinking?

Feyd
01-10-2014, 09:42 PM
Same old story. Leafs can't win a crucial faceoff. Game over.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:42 PM
Please fire him. He's given up.

CRL
01-10-2014, 09:42 PM
look we didn't get scored on empty net, positive

Volcanologist
01-10-2014, 09:42 PM
Moral victories all round, everyone!

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:43 PM
lupul and kadri just had a long shift so they needed to put somebody else on.

what bugged me was what they did on those last draws.

none of that made any sense. given how they make you line up it is much, much easier to win a draw on your back hand than your forehand.

they have a guy who has one of hte biggest cannons in the league.

the play should have been, win it back to phaneuf and blast it off the draw.

instead they put phaneuf on the left point, made bozak take the draw awkwardly, and did that to set up a cody franson wrist shit.

that is ****ing retarded.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:43 PM
ho hum another loss

I thought Randy was all out of bad decisions, but NOPE!

Killer93
01-10-2014, 09:43 PM
Hey its all good! Just a rough patch guys!

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:44 PM
Puttin clarkson out there might have been an FU to nonis.

Then again, randy probably was the reason we signed him.

uncus
01-10-2014, 09:44 PM
What does clarkson do?

Not give the puck away like gunnerson over and over again

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:45 PM
Puttin clarkson out there might have been an FU to nonis.

Then again, randy probably was the reason we signed him.

he put him on the ice because he had no other option besides a tired second line.

the only other option was kulemin.

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:45 PM
though maybe, in that situatino, you get creative, throw franson or phaneuf in front of the net and put one of the kids on the back end.

uncus
01-10-2014, 09:46 PM
lupul and kadri just had a long shift so they needed to put somebody else on.

what bugged me was what they did on those last draws.

none of that made any sense. given how they make you line up it is much, much easier to win a draw on your back hand than your forehand.

they have a guy who has one of hte biggest cannons in the league.

the play should have been, win it back to phaneuf and blast it off the draw.

instead they put phaneuf on the left point, made bozak take the draw awkwardly, and did that to set up a cody franson wrist shit.

that is ****ing retarded.

Yea draw to phaneuf who very rarely hits the net

Feyd
01-10-2014, 09:46 PM
The offensive black hole known as Kulemin > Clarkson. I'm convinced.

Volcanologist
01-10-2014, 09:47 PM
So when is Clarkson getting bought out?

because let's face it, it's going to happen.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:47 PM
Another 18+ minute night for mcselke. On for two goals against and zero scoring chances for.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:48 PM
he put him on the ice because he had no other option besides a tired second line.

the only other option was kulemin.

Or holland or ashton or d'amigo, who all have more skill and have all outplayed him.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:49 PM
and who didnt take a stupid ill timed penalty that could have cost the leafs the game in and of itself.

uncus
01-10-2014, 09:49 PM
they deserved a point didn't get one ... but they got points when they didn't deserve them good game, bad luck ..... Gunnerson is at best a 4th maybe a 5th dman on a normal team

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:49 PM
No complaining about the effort level tonight randy.

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:50 PM
anyways, that clarkson signing was a total disaster. and imo it's fire worthy.

it amazes me how often these guys so clearly fail to do their due diligence.

we're the team that gest duped, every time.

the only way to get rid of the guy might be to trade him and reimer for luongo.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:50 PM
Hell, stick rielly or jake out there as the extracattacker.

Anyone other than the guy who has done absolutely nothingbthis year.

uncus
01-10-2014, 09:51 PM
Carter played well and showed a lot of guts ... in my books he got a lot of points for going against a real tough guy....
Put D amigo in Raymond place

mbow30
01-10-2014, 09:53 PM
Or holland or ashton or d'amigo, who all have more skill and have all outplayed him.

holland didn't play tonight.

carter ashton is yet to score a goal in 35 career games.

d'amigo is a nice little 4th liner.

i hate clarkson, but you're overstating the options here.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 09:53 PM
We are 3 points away from 13th overall in the east since columbus won tonight.

zeke
01-10-2014, 09:55 PM
holland didn't play tonight.

I'm very, very aware of that.

uncus
01-10-2014, 09:57 PM
Hell, stick rielly or jake out there as the extracattacker.

Anyone other than the guy who has done absolutely nothingbthis year.

Agreed, Gardiner played well ..... Phaneuf had a solid game , so did franson and Reilly played well but him an gardiner should be on the first pairing pp. just my drunk opinion

uncus
01-10-2014, 10:00 PM
Just an opinion .... but Carlyle doesn't seem to be able to put players in places to succeed ....
Take Raymond off of Kadris line and either put in Clarkson to help with cycle or in front of the net or Damigo ......

Feyd
01-10-2014, 10:04 PM
We are 3 points away from 13th overall in the east since columbus won tonight.
It's sad to think that Tank Nation is only just around the corner.

Feyd
01-10-2014, 10:22 PM
Just a thought... What was Komarov asking for before bolting to the KHL? $2M? Because Komarov @ $2M >>>>>>>>> Clarkson @ $5M.

Killer93
01-10-2014, 10:26 PM
What's most frustrating is 99% of this board predicted the Clarkson signing would turn out this way; have no idea what management saw in this guy to give him 7 yrs at $5.2 million. He has been awful

Leafin'
01-10-2014, 10:35 PM
At this point its safe to say Komarov @ 5 million >> over Clarkson @ 2Million...

I did not think he'd be this bad.

JackBurton
01-10-2014, 10:47 PM
Clarkson has just not been a fit. I think a big issue is how much better the Leafs are on the wing than the Devils were. New Jersey was a much better fit for Clarkson.

ForeverTML
01-10-2014, 10:50 PM
Hindsight is a wonderful thing:


"We're pretty happy. Our top nine (forwards), I think, will be pretty competitive," said Nonis, who also acquired centre Dave Bolland from Chicago at Sunday's NHL draft. "And our fourth line will be very hard to play against. I can tell you (Leafs coach Randy Carlyle) is happy with the options that we have right now, in a lot of different areas."


"I play a style of hockey where I try and come out every night and wear my heart on my sleeve. That's just the type of player I am," said Clarkson, who added he owned a Wendel Clark jersey when he was a kid. "I try and do different little things, whether it's scoring or hitting or pressure. Every game you go on that ice you need to play well, you need to do something. That's my plan. "My job is on the ice. I'm going to go out there every night and I'm going to give you everything I have," Clarkson said. "Am I perfect? No, but I'm going to go out there every night and play my game."

"Every night I'm going to put the hard hat on and go to work."


The seven-year term given to Clarkson is uncharacteristic of the Maple Leafs, but Nonis said the big forward would have gone elsewhere had the length of the deal been shorter.

"I believe he has a lot of good years left in him," Nonis said.

Volcanologist
01-11-2014, 12:53 AM
The one time the hometown boy takes less money to come to Toronto, and it's ****ing Clarkson.

Montana
01-11-2014, 01:02 AM
He'd look so good in Ottawa.

Pronger84
01-11-2014, 01:03 AM
The one time the hometown boy takes less money to come to Toronto, and it's ****ing Clarkson.

I'm disappointed in Clarkson, I wasn't expecting him to come in and snipe 30 goals this year nor was I expecting him to lead the way offensively however I was expecting him to bring a phsyical element, a meanness to the team and veteran leadership for the young guys but I haven't seen any of that yet out of him at any point this season.

Pronger84
01-11-2014, 01:05 AM
Just a thought... What was Komarov asking for before bolting to the KHL? $2M? Because Komarov @ $2M >>>>>>>>> Clarkson @ $5M.

He was asking for $3M a season.

BeLeafer
01-11-2014, 03:53 AM
Does anyone know of a site where you can get player stats splits by period?

SENSible
01-11-2014, 08:02 AM
He'd look so good in Ottawa.

Murray knew Clarkson was only going to sign with the Leafs, so he just drove the price up by making offers.

Well played Bryan, well played.

Killer93
01-11-2014, 09:15 AM
Murray didnt drive anything up; Clarkson had multiple offers and at least two were long term over $6 million plus. Bottom line was Clarkson chose Toronto for less money; were just pissed that he did lol

JackBurton
01-11-2014, 10:20 AM
The UFA market is not one to improve your team. Boston did it brilliantly with Chara/Savard in 1 day. Other than that, it virtually never works.

David Clarkson was this year's "Sexy" free agent.

mbow30
01-11-2014, 10:45 AM
Does anyone know of a site where you can get player stats splits by period?

i know exactly where this is going and they were about as bad in third periods last year as they are this year.

and having the other guy in net didn't stem the tide and stop them from blowing a 3 goal third period lead in game 7.

this whole bernier/reimer thing needs to be laid to rest. they're both good goalies. the team isn't losing right now because of the guys in net, and they are only as high up in the standings as they are because both of them have been fantastic this year.

the leafs are perhaps the worst defensive team of the post-lockout era. only one team over that span has allowed more than 35 shots a game -- the 05-06 capitals.

the leafs are currently allowing 36.4 shots a game.

the leafs are 26th in the league in goals against. if you factor out empty net goals (of which the leafs have allowed 8) they're top five in team save percentage.

this team sucks in its own end. some of it is the D. some of it is the forwards. some of it is coaching.

but the goaltending discussion has to end.

though i have to admit, it's funny seeing the save percentage crowd crying about the team starting a guy who is currently posting the highest save percentage a leafs goalie has ever registered in the modern era.

mbow30
01-11-2014, 10:50 AM
The UFA market is not one to improve your team. Boston did it brilliantly with Chara/Savard in 1 day. Other than that, it virtually never works.

David Clarkson was this year's "Sexy" free agent.

zdeno chara should never have been allowed to hit the ufa market.

savard was an interesting one. he got wedged between a couple of goal scorers in atlanta and for some reason everybody just assumed that was the reason why he scored 100 points. but, of course, that theory was about as ridiculous as the numbers he put up.

BeLeafer
01-11-2014, 11:25 AM
i know exactly where this is going and they were about as bad in third periods last year as they are this year.

and having the other guy in net didn't stem the tide and stop them from blowing a 3 goal third period lead in game 7.

this whole bernier/reimer thing needs to be laid to rest. they're both good goalies. the team isn't losing right now because of the guys in net, and they are only as high up in the standings as they are because both of them have been fantastic this year.

the leafs are perhaps the worst defensive team of the post-lockout era. only one team over that span has allowed more than 35 shots a game -- the 05-06 capitals.

the leafs are currently allowing 36.4 shots a game.

the leafs are 26th in the league in goals against. if you factor out empty net goals (of which the leafs have allowed 8) they're top five in team save percentage.

this team sucks in its own end. some of it is the D. some of it is the forwards. some of it is coaching.

but the goaltending discussion has to end.

though i have to admit, it's funny seeing the save percentage crowd crying about the team starting a guy who is currently posting the highest save percentage a leafs goalie has ever registered in the modern era.

Just looking for the stats. I will take this as a no.

Bleedsblue&white
01-11-2014, 11:54 AM
I agree on the Clarkson deal, but I will still bet that, in the playoffs, whether this year or next lol, he will be useful. He'll have to be if there is to be any chance of losing this contract.

Bleedsblue&white
01-11-2014, 11:55 AM
And Mbow?

Haven't mentioned it recently, but I agree with most of your Leaf-thoughts over the last few weeks.