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Killer93
01-14-2014, 02:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JU2qv8wsHw

Tonight is the return of Peter Holland. If Randy goes with three scoring lines I can see us surprising the Bruins to a 4-2 win; if Carlyle sticks to his McClement love affair then I say 5-2 Bruins.

Rumpleforeskin
01-14-2014, 03:42 PM
Please Carlyle, play Holland.

JaysCyYoung
01-14-2014, 04:02 PM
It's working for the Raptors, so we need some Drake love for the boys in blue and white:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/c658193c5f8a268a2e89077873da5b26/tumblr_mi14v4Gpm11rqkjmno1_500.gif

(credit: trujaysfan)

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 04:13 PM
This is going to suck.

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 04:23 PM
Give it at least one period before you start drinking ME. Or is it too late?

I agree with killer...We've gained some momentum(and we could still be much better). We're playing a bit more cautious and it might come handy in this game if we can keep it going. They don't have that much in terms of skill and speed so we can wait for the right time and then try to score.

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 04:27 PM
You ever had to fight someone that you knew could stomp you out, but you still had to fight them? You weren't afraid of getting punched out, just hoped to make it out with nothing broken and to land some solid shots of your own? Basically, just to not get killed and not embarrass yourself?

That's how I feel about this game, and much like when I've been through the above, this is going to suck. Of course, I'm dearly hoping for the clean right hook that catches the adversary on the point of the chin and puts him out, but I'm not expecting it.

LeafGm
01-14-2014, 04:27 PM
Well, either we're going to get curb stomped in this one, or maybe by some miracle they'll wake up and figure out how to play the same way that resulted in them taking this team to seven games last year.

Because I like to plan for the worst though, I think I'll have plenty of liquor handy for this one.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 04:31 PM
6-1 Bruins, and Bernier never gets pulled.

trujaysfan
01-14-2014, 04:34 PM
This is the type of game where Clarkson should start to earn his paycheque... unfortunately i do not see him flipping the switch tonight

Volcanologist
01-14-2014, 05:02 PM
Should be another easy two points for the Bruins. And I do mean easy.

Surprise me, Leafs.

Wayward DP
01-14-2014, 05:39 PM
You ever had to fight someone that you knew could stomp you out, but you still had to fight them? You weren't afraid of getting punched out, just hoped to make it out with nothing broken and to land some solid shots of your own? Basically, just to not get killed and not embarrass yourself?

That's how I feel about this game, and much like when I've been through the above, this is going to suck. Of course, I'm dearly hoping for the clean right hook that catches the adversary on the point of the chin and puts him out, but I'm not expecting it.

Yeah, pretty much sums up my thoughts.

rated
01-14-2014, 06:02 PM
4-0 leafs

Feyd
01-14-2014, 06:39 PM
I've got a feeling tonight doesn't end well for the Leafs.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 06:41 PM
I've got a feeling tonight doesn't end well for the Leafs.

I would prefer it if tonight didn't end well for Carlyle.

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 06:43 PM
If Carlyle carries through with his threat to relegate McSelke to his proper role as the fourth line centre, there's at least some reason to hope that they might start to turn this ugly mess around.

ForeverTML
01-14-2014, 06:46 PM
ugh, this one has all the makings of a rout.

Killer93
01-14-2014, 06:52 PM
JVR - Bozak - Lupul....interesting

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 06:55 PM
Leafs cruise to a victory.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:03 PM
You know what would be awesome? If Clarkson could play at least one complete game effort-wise before the end of the season.

MyNameIsJonas
01-14-2014, 07:03 PM
Doug McClean wants more toughness

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 07:06 PM
Gleason needs a GPS.

Killer93
01-14-2014, 07:07 PM
Theres our Leafs lol

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:07 PM
Good sustained pressure by Holland & Clarkson there. Bernier huge so far.

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 07:08 PM
See? McLaren does fight.

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 07:10 PM
And so it begins.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:10 PM
Of course that piece of shit Marchand gets it.

CRL
01-14-2014, 07:10 PM
Lupul playing like pussy today

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 07:10 PM
JUICY

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 07:11 PM
I fail to believe the 15 or so wingers we've used this year are all horrific at side board play. At some point you have to re-evaluate your 'system'

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:11 PM
Gleason just bailed Kessel out there. Big time.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:14 PM
Eat it Bruins.

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 07:14 PM
Bozie in your face.

CRL
01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
Bozak took it back

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
Bozak to the rescue.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
More like Bozbackbone.

JackBurton
01-14-2014, 07:15 PM
Bozak looks very good.

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 07:16 PM
Bozbackbone.

Nice

Bleedsblue&white
01-14-2014, 07:16 PM
If Bozak keeps it up we'll have to re-address our definition of a 1st line centre.

JackBurton
01-14-2014, 07:18 PM
4.2 million is a good deal for him.

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 07:18 PM
Shoot the puck and get the rebound ... not a bad idea, eh.

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 07:22 PM
Very dumb play by McClement there. He had a bit more time to get to the line and dump it in.

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 07:25 PM
Phaneuf looks really shitty guys..This is 2nd time now he's getting beaten to the puck.

LeafGm
01-14-2014, 07:25 PM
#BadGoalBernie

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 07:25 PM
BGB

CRL
01-14-2014, 07:26 PM
atta boy Dion

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 07:26 PM
Poor defence, but you'd really like for your goalie to be strong on the post there.

Killer93
01-14-2014, 07:27 PM
**** this team angers me

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 07:27 PM
Two goals in how many shots? I bet Reimer never sees a minute in net tonight.

leafman101
01-14-2014, 07:27 PM
The Holland line has been awesome.

Both Bruins goals are from lazy, lazy dzone play from the top line/d pair. Just standing around watching the play. Everyone.

LeafOfFaith
01-14-2014, 07:28 PM
Gotta love how the team solved its goalie problems by just letting Reimer play finally last year.

And then they created a brand new mess by kicking him to the curb and bringing this guy in.

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 07:28 PM
The Holland line has been awesome.

Both Bruins goals are from lazy, lazy dzone play from the top line/d pair. Just standing around watching the play. Everyone.

2 pretty shit plays by the goaltender as well. Shambolic rebound on a soft backhand on the 1st, and a pretty Bernieresque lazy play on the post for the 2nd.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:29 PM
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 10m
Bozak now has 15 points in the past 14 games.
FYI. Bozbackbone. I'm gonna run with that for a bit.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:30 PM
Make that 16 in 14.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 07:30 PM
Bozakbone again!

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 07:30 PM
lmao..Bozie on fire!

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
Great pass by Van Gretzdyk, Bozie scores again!

LeafGm
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
Bozak...to the rescue?

LeafGm
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
Seriously though, the guy's always had a terrific shot. Good to see him using it and not just looking for Phil all the time.

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
Bozak has been getting in the right spots.

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
I like these line changes very much..and yeah 101, Holland line looks great.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
lol @ Van Gretzdyk.

zeke
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
Bernie = fraud

Killer93
01-14-2014, 07:31 PM
Bozak > Weiss

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 07:32 PM
Bozak has been getting in the right spots.

I think you mean Toolzak. ;)

CRL
01-14-2014, 07:35 PM
every time Holland line on the ice we have pressure in Boston zone, odd

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 07:36 PM
These B's commentators are so annoying.."Gets tripped by Bozak and no call"...There was no trip bitch!

Killer93
01-14-2014, 07:36 PM
Holland doing better then McClement; completely stunned by that

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 07:37 PM
Funny how much better they play with a third offensive line rather than that black hole.

CRL
01-14-2014, 07:37 PM
Funny how much better they play with a third offensive line rather than that black hole.

it took Randy 20 games and whole media/city screaming to realize

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 07:39 PM
Bernie = fraud

He looks rotten so far this game. That wraparound Bergeron goal was a joke. Toskala would have stopped that one.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 07:40 PM
It could have been 2-0 Bruins in the first minute and Bernier bailed them out.

ForeverTML
01-14-2014, 07:41 PM
Cant watch the game - but I guess Holland is proving Randy wrong in sending him down.

CRL
01-14-2014, 07:43 PM
Gards is by far our best defence man today

leafman101
01-14-2014, 07:45 PM
Great period. Hope they can keep that up. They're showing some fight.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 07:45 PM
Gards is by far our best defence man today

Yep. Although Franson did a good job on the two-on-one.

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 07:45 PM
It could have been 2-0 Bruins in the first minute and Bernier bailed them out.

That's what good NHL goalies are supposed to do. Take away a few, without giving them back shambolic goals in return.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 07:50 PM
It could have been 2-0 Bruins in the first minute and Bernier bailed them out.

So he bailed them out on those two only to let in two softies?
Carlyle is playing his boy Bernier instead of Reimer, who has Boston's number. It's nuts.

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 08:08 PM
That little diver rat **** is probably the worst in the league for that shit, but keeps getting away with it. Kadri is weak on his skates legitimately and can't get a ****ing call to save his life anymore.

CRL
01-14-2014, 08:15 PM
Gards makes them pay, ****ers

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 08:15 PM
Jake!

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 08:16 PM
The Snake!

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 08:16 PM
Gardiner rediscovering his inner 2013 playoff being tonight.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:16 PM
Gardiner continues his great game.

Killer93
01-14-2014, 08:17 PM
Gards!! Big FU to Carlyle

CRL
01-14-2014, 08:17 PM
Boston preparing package for Gards

CRL
01-14-2014, 08:20 PM
weak ass call

Killer93
01-14-2014, 08:20 PM
What the **** was that

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 08:20 PM
Better sit Gardiner for Fraser again...

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 08:21 PM
How does a guy run our goalie and not get mauled.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:23 PM
How does a guy run our goalie and not get mauled.

Goalie had a Leaf jersey. No call needed...

CRL
01-14-2014, 08:24 PM
Goalie had a Leaf jersey. No call needed...

and goal would be allowed if happens

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:26 PM
and goal would be allowed if happens

Especially if you push the goalie AND the puck in the net.

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 08:30 PM
Great job by Phil to get back.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:30 PM
Listened to the Boston feed for a few seconds. Hilarious...
"Bozak trying to box out Chara... good luck with that." (and yet he did)
"looses Gleason... and looses Gleason again..." (Toronto gets the puck)

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:33 PM
Bruins hemmed in for that entire PK, almost. We can do this, when Carlyle plays the right players.

CRL
01-14-2014, 08:34 PM
Bruins hemmed in for that entire PK, almost. We can do this, when Carlyle plays the right players.

players who can do shit with puck

Leafyblue
01-14-2014, 08:37 PM
The Boston feed also has Cliff Clavin doing colour. The accent is a bit annoying.

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 08:38 PM
Anyone who thinks those guys are bad, my advice is, never ever listen to Boston Celtics home broadcasts. They are absolutely horrific.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:41 PM
Clarkson trying to be a one-man show. Fvck me... just shoot the fvcking puck...

SundinsTooth
01-14-2014, 08:42 PM
That was bad, Clarkson....yikes that guy is completely stymied.

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 08:42 PM
Some really good defensive plays by Holland.

MindzEye
01-14-2014, 08:43 PM
When does Clarkson get dropped to the 4th line or benched? That was an absolutely abysmal shift that could have cost us huge in the exact type of game that he was signed to a big ass contract to be part of for us.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:43 PM
When does Clarkson get dropped to the 4th line or benched? That was an absolutely abysmal shift that could have cost us huge in the exact type of game that he was signed to a big ass contract to be part of for us.

As soon as Carlyle is gone, this may happen.

Leafyblue
01-14-2014, 08:44 PM
Boston +20 in the third period. Toronto -18....yikes.

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 08:45 PM
Someone dared Clarkson to do a Sergei Berezin impression.

leafman101
01-14-2014, 08:46 PM
I thought Clarkson has actually had a good game. He just fanned on that one. Happens.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 08:50 PM
Someone dared Clarkson to do a Sergei Berezin impression.

Difference being, Berezin actually put up some points for the Leafs.

gilmour93forever
01-14-2014, 08:52 PM
Listened to the Boston feed for a few seconds. Hilarious...
"Bozak trying to box out Chara... good luck with that." (and yet he did)
"looses Gleason... and looses Gleason again..." (Toronto gets the puck)

Was actually watching the Boston feed and they were pumping the Leafs up for a bit. Especially on that 3rd goal of ours when they not only got excited at our goal, but commented on the "beautiful triangle passing by the Leafs".

CRL
01-14-2014, 09:02 PM
LOL JVR

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 09:02 PM
JVR Superstar!

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:02 PM
JVR!

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 09:02 PM
YESSSS!

101, I think we have our cycle line. Awesome work by Holland line.

Deckie007
01-14-2014, 09:03 PM
4-2? That's unexpected.

LeafOfFaith
01-14-2014, 09:04 PM
Let's watch out for the last 10 minutes of this one. Leads are sometimes tough to hold in Boston for us...

Hoss
01-14-2014, 09:04 PM
Was lupul just on cuz phil couldn't get on?? OR is Randy moving Lupul up to get him going and getting Phil away from Chara and maybe get Kadri going??

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 09:07 PM
Was lupul just on cuz phil couldn't get on?? OR is Randy moving Lupul up to get him going and getting Phil away from Chara and maybe get Kadri going??

I hope he keeps going with this for the rest of the season. Phil on the 2nd line is probably more to get away from Chara.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:09 PM
Chara nailed for what he's always guilty of.

CTheBigPicture
01-14-2014, 09:11 PM
Let's watch out for the last 10 minutes of this one. Leads are sometimes tough to hold in Boston for us...

one of those things that we are ALL thinking it, but no one should say it :deal: ;d

leafman101
01-14-2014, 09:12 PM
Love swapping Gardiner and Franson on the PP. Gives the second unit a weapon on the blueline, and the puck movement is much better on the top unit with Gardiner in there.

CRL
01-14-2014, 09:16 PM
****ing stupid penalty

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:17 PM
Rolling puck. Shit happens. Hopefully they can kill it.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:18 PM
Wow JVR can put on a show when he wants to...

mbow30
01-14-2014, 09:18 PM
raymond got lucky there. he hooked a guy, for no reason at all, in the neutral zone. what a lazy, stupid play.

CRL
01-14-2014, 09:21 PM
**** Gards why?

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:21 PM
Let's watch out for the last 10 minutes of this one. Leads are sometimes tough to hold in Boston for us...

Fvck you. lol!

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 09:21 PM
**** off! Gardiner hangs on to the puck way too long.

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 09:21 PM
Man that's a brutal play by Gardiner.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:21 PM
Uh oh. Shades of Game 7.

leaffan2005
01-14-2014, 09:21 PM
And the inevitable collapse commences.

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 09:23 PM
I'm having 'Nam-esque flashbacks here.
Come on boys, this would be a massive win.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:28 PM
Unbelievable skill by Kessel there. Wow.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:29 PM
What a beauty play by Kessel! Nazzy draws the penalty.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:30 PM
Raymond needs to chill the **** out with those cross ice passes at the offensive blue line. Holy ****.

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 09:31 PM
Mason Raymond really is a stupid hockey player.

CRL
01-14-2014, 09:31 PM
Rymond is ****ing disaster

LeafGm
01-14-2014, 09:32 PM
Jesus. The boys are in full white-knuckle mode here.

Pretty please get another one and finish them off.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:34 PM
And there's the 40th Boston shot on goal.

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 09:34 PM
20th time this season the Leafs have given up 38 shots or more, in a game.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:39 PM
Wow. Brutal trip on Franson, NO CALL.

mbow30
01-14-2014, 09:39 PM
the leafs were cycled on by boston's 3rd and 4th lines there.

just awful.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:40 PM
They just tripped TWO Leafs - no call

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:40 PM
lol. Boston just gets away with anything in the final two minutes. What a joke.

mbow30
01-14-2014, 09:41 PM
great shift from gleason.

leafman101
01-14-2014, 09:41 PM
They needed that.

Feyd
01-14-2014, 09:41 PM
Yeah Gleason was a beast there. Sacrificing everything.

Deckie007
01-14-2014, 09:41 PM
\o/

leaffan2005
01-14-2014, 09:42 PM
Yeah, the refs really wanted this to go to OT.

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 09:42 PM
Yeah, Gleason with a huge block. What a tense ending lol, but in the end the good guys walk out with two points.

Volcanologist
01-14-2014, 09:42 PM
What made this win impressive is that the Bruins get to do whatever they want with no call, essentially. It's unbelievable.

LeafGm
01-14-2014, 09:43 PM
Absolutely huge win. Hopefully this will build a lot of confidence for them.

Unbelievable the way the refs put away their whistles as soon as Boston pulled Rask for the extra attacker though.

Bleedsblue&white
01-14-2014, 09:43 PM
Whew.

TimHorton
01-14-2014, 09:43 PM
As I predicted on page 1, Leafs cruise to victory.

Locke
01-14-2014, 09:44 PM
:
Rymond is ****ing disaster

His reluctance of getting physical nullifies his good attributes.

And the leafs won a game I picked them clearly to lose. :rolleyes(2)::rolleyes(2):

I got all the rest of my picks right, but the leafs ruined my chances at getting $300 tomorrow.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:46 PM
I'll take the win, but fvck, that was three weak goals on Bernier. Carlyle needs to take Bernier's **** out of his mouth and start Reimer against Boston. And again, almost 40 shots on our net. That shit's gotta stop. Nice to see Gardiner with a great game, minus that one brain fart. Double-Dion was playing like double-pylon to start the game, but finally got back to his game before it was too late. JVR's glove launch was beautiful. lol! Why he couldn't get a hip check call in the final minute of the game is beyond me, but they let two other Leafs get tripped with no call during the same final two minutes, so why start reffing now?
By the way, this was our first regulation win since November. That shit's gotta stop too.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:48 PM
As I predicted on page 1, Leafs cruise to victory.

That was a "cruise?" Leaf Concordia cruise??

mbow30
01-14-2014, 09:48 PM
I'll take the win, but fvck, that was three weak goals on Bernier. Carlyle needs to take Bernier's **** out of his mouth and start Reimer against Boston. And again, almost 40 shots on our net. That shit's gotta stop. Nice to see Gardiner with a great game, minus that one brain fart. Double-Dion was playing like double-pylon to start the game, but finally got back to his game before it was too late. JVR's glove launch was beautiful. lol! Why he couldn't get a hip check call in the final minute of the game is beyond me, but they let two other Leafs get tripped with no call during the same final two minutes, so why start reffing now?
By the way, this was our first regulation win since November. That shit's gotta stop too.

you're retarded

axlsalinger
01-14-2014, 09:49 PM
Stop with the nonsense. Bernier ended up playing a pretty good game.

mbow30
01-14-2014, 09:49 PM
I'll take the win, but fvck, that was three weak goals on Bernier. Carlyle needs to take Bernier's **** out of his mouth and start Reimer against Boston. And again, almost 40 shots on our net. That shit's gotta stop. Nice to see Gardiner with a great game, minus that one brain fart. Double-Dion was playing like double-pylon to start the game, but finally got back to his game before it was too late. JVR's glove launch was beautiful. lol! Why he couldn't get a hip check call in the final minute of the game is beyond me, but they let two other Leafs get tripped with no call during the same final two minutes, so why start reffing now?
By the way, this was our first regulation win since November. That shit's gotta stop too.

you're retarded

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 09:49 PM
Hate watching this team collapse into a shell with a late lead. They usually get burned doing it.

Big win. Refs were just ****ing brutal in the final 5 minutes.

blacksheep
01-14-2014, 09:50 PM
you're retarded


you're retarded

You're a repetitive dick

rated
01-14-2014, 09:52 PM
Stop with the nonsense. Bernier ended up playing a pretty good game.

This.

Volcanologist
01-14-2014, 09:53 PM
I'll take the win, but fvck, that was three weak goals on Bernier. Carlyle needs to take Bernier's **** out of his mouth and start Reimer against Boston.

:lol

Just another quality start for Bernier, .927 and once again over 40 shots against. Yeah, the takeaway there is definitely that Reimer should be in there instead.

I've found this this whole Reimer-Bernier thing utterly fascinating to watch play out on this board.

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 09:53 PM
Stop with the nonsense. Bernier ended up playing a pretty good game.

He didn't look good on any of the goals, but made the saves when needed.

Hoss
01-14-2014, 09:56 PM
They gotta see if they can move Reimer. Just to get that out if the room. It is clear that nonis is making his line up ideas known to Carlyle and that Bernier is the number one. Reimer to Winnipeg makes so much sense.

BeLeafer
01-14-2014, 09:57 PM
Biggest difference between this game and the previous 20 or so ...

McClement: 11:51

As it should be.

rated
01-14-2014, 09:57 PM
They gotta see if they can move Reimer. Just to get that out if the room. It is clear that nonis is making his line up ideas known to Carlyle and that Bernier is the number one. Reimer to Winnipeg makes so much sense.

Absolutely no need to rush making a deal for trading Reimer, if that is in fact in the plans. If this season has proven anything they need both goalies atm lol

Killer93
01-14-2014, 09:57 PM
How the **** are people complaining that Reimer should have been in net? Give it a rest, Bernier was solid tonight

Leafyblue
01-14-2014, 09:58 PM
He made 37 terrible saves! ;)

Killer93
01-14-2014, 09:58 PM
What was great tonight was the balance attack; three lines who could do damage offensively. Hopefully the line-up stays the same for awhile until Bolland returns

Volcanologist
01-14-2014, 09:59 PM
They gotta see if they can move Reimer. Just to get that out if the room. It is clear that nonis is making his line up ideas known to Carlyle and that Bernier is the number one. Reimer to Winnipeg makes so much sense.

Or Calgary, or Edmonton.

leafman101
01-14-2014, 10:01 PM
James Mirtle ‏
And look who's back in a playoff spot http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20132014&type=WC …

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 10:10 PM
Didn't watch the game but heard Gleason went into beast mode in the final few minutes, atta boy Gleason! These are the kind of players this team lacks players that actually give a shit and want to win at all costs, we need more people like him on the roster.

leafman101
01-14-2014, 10:11 PM
That was their best effort in a while. They still don't do all the little things rights, and it gets them in trouble. Lupul had the puck behind the Bruins net with a minute left. He could have killed off a bunch of time, but he threw a pass up the middle. I get what he is trying to do, but you have to be more aware of the situation. There are mistakes like that all over the place.

But that was definitely a much better game than we have seen lately so I'll take it. Hopefully this can get them playing with confidence.

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 10:15 PM
I just want the Leafs to string together more then 3 wins in a row without it getting to their egos, I have yet to see that since the playoffs last year. Tommorow is a big game vs Buffalo, its a must win game if we want to improve our odds of making the playoffs.

Montana
01-14-2014, 10:24 PM
Highest regular season workload:


James Reimer:
1134 shots
.921 sv%

Jon Bernier:
1124 shots
.926 sv%



Bernier's now basically matched Reimer's career high for shots faced in a season, while sporting a sv% above anything Reimer's ever produced in smaller sample sizes.

Montana
01-14-2014, 10:32 PM
Bernier now has a .925 sv% over his last 48 games and 1,430 shots faced, the last two seasons.

Deckie007
01-14-2014, 10:34 PM
#TeamBernier

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 10:40 PM
Bernier now has a .925 sv% over his last 48 games and 1,430 shots faced, the last two seasons.

As good as Bernier has been this season I'm not sold on him just yet as a #1 goalie long term. Keep in mind this is his first season of being a #1 and we're just over half way in IMO it's too soon to bet the farm on him, also keep in mind while his save % is impressive he's a .500 goalie with a 15-14-4 record.

LeafGm
01-14-2014, 10:49 PM
Kessel takes a big leap back towards playing at a PPG pace with his three assists tonight:

GP 48, G 21, A 24, Pts 45 (GP 82, G 36, A 41, Pts 77)

I think right about now would be a good time for a patented Kessel hot streak.

Montana
01-14-2014, 10:50 PM
As good as Bernier has been this season I'm not sold on him just yet as a #1 goalie long term. Keep in mind this is his first season of being a #1 and we're just over half way in IMO it's too soon to bet the farm on him, also keep in mind while his save % is impressive he's a .500 goalie with a 15-14-4 record.


heh.

You must be one of those wise fans that thought Luongo "sucked" when he was in Florida based on his losing record.

IrishWolfman
01-14-2014, 10:51 PM
As good as Bernier has been this season I'm not sold on him just yet as a #1 goalie long term. Keep in mind this is his first season of being a #1 and we're just over half way in IMO it's too soon to bet the farm on him, also keep in mind while his save % is impressive he's a .500 goalie with a 15-14-4 record.

Wins are a team statistic and arguably the worst stat by which to judge a goaltender.

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 10:51 PM
I think Kessel will wind up at a ppg or slightly over when the season is done, the guy goes white hot and then ice cold. I'm not worried about him getting his usual 35ish-80ish points, however I'd love to see him find the next gear where he's more consistent and actually shows up when it matters (like he did tonight and in the playoffs last year).

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 10:52 PM
Wins are a team statistic and arguably the worst stat by which to judge a goaltender.

Even if that is true wins and save % are besides the point, my point was he's been a backup all his career and this being his 1st time up at bat as the starter means I'm still not convinced on him just yet, time will tell though.

A lot of leaf goalies were backups prior to coming here and ended up starting out well as the #1 but fading badly, do the names Raycroft, Toskala and even Gustavsson ring a bell? I'm not saying Bernier will suffer the same fate and I hope to hell he doesn't but based on prior history with the goalies here I'm leery.

PKForce81
01-14-2014, 10:52 PM
Yeah i just saw that LGM. Hopefully tomorrow against Buffalo he can get a few.

Deckie007
01-14-2014, 10:59 PM
As good as Bernier has been this season I'm not sold on him just yet as a #1 goalie long term. Keep in mind this is his first season of being a #1 and we're just over half way in IMO it's too soon to bet the farm on him, also keep in mind while his save % is impressive he's a .500 goalie with a 15-14-4 record.

I shall call you "Spuds" going forward. Every post is pure potato.

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 11:00 PM
I shall call you "Spuds" going forward. Every post is pure potato.

Typical poster on here, you clearly know when another poster is right so instead of admitting it you resort to chilidsh remarks, time for you to grow up.

Let me ask you something do you have anything intelligent to contribute to this thread?

Montana
01-14-2014, 11:01 PM
my point was he's been a backup all his career and this being his 1st time up at bat as the starter means I'm still not convinced on him just yet, time will tell though.


Nothing wrong with not being sold on James or Bernier as a full time starter, as we've yet to see either guy shoulder a full years workload.

Nobody should be "convinced" until we've at least seen one of them produce at high level for 50+ games.

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 11:03 PM
True, while I do like both goalies (for different reasons) I need to see a full workload from one of them. At this point though given how shitty they play in front of the goalies its better to play both of them instead of risking burning one or both of them out.

mbow30
01-14-2014, 11:03 PM
That was their best effort in a while. They still don't do all the little things rights, and it gets them in trouble. Lupul had the puck behind the Bruins net with a minute left. He could have killed off a bunch of time, but he threw a pass up the middle. I get what he is trying to do, but you have to be more aware of the situation. There are mistakes like that all over the place.

But that was definitely a much better game than we have seen lately so I'll take it. Hopefully this can get them playing with confidence.

gleason, bozak and clarkson all did little things to make big plays to secure the win.

but, yeah, that was jsut stupid shit by lupul.

all three were in tight. it was bound to be an odd-man rush going the other way.

Deckie007
01-14-2014, 11:04 PM
[QUOTE=Pronger84;2238499]Typical poster on here, you clearly know when another poster is right so instead of admitting it you resort to chilidsh remarks, time for you to grow up.

Let me ask you something do you have anything intelligent to contribute to this thread?[QUOTE]

I have no need to, you're doing swimmingly Spuds.

Pronger84
01-14-2014, 11:05 PM
I have no need to, you're doing swimmingly Spuds.[/QUOTE]

Good then stfu if you have nothing to contribute.

number17
01-15-2014, 08:40 AM
Wow that was the best game we've played in a while but make no mistake, it was aided by some very suspect goaltending by Rask. As much as the Bruins' defense gets raved in the past few years (and they ARE good, don't get me wrong) it doesn't mean a thing when you have average or average minus goaltending.

- I think Carlyle just found his checking line there in Kulemin - Holland - Clarkson. They were absolute dominating along the board and in the corner. They out-possessed and beat the Bruins in the cycle game, and that is something I haven't seen in the Leafs uniform since Sundin - Antropov - Poni line. I mean, they don't have the chemistry yet, and they haven't generated much scoring chances, but that will come if they can play like this every night. There were a few shifts where they pretty much had the Bruins hemmed in their zone for the entire shift, knocking bodies over, keeping the puck all along.

- I am really, really hoping Clarkson was mis-used in the rushing game and now he finally has teammates who can cycle he'll find his game again, because he did a LOT of little things well. When you can keep coming up with the puck in all the puck battle against the Bruins like he did last night, you are doing something right. The line managed to cycle along the board and find openings to pass it to the point for point shots. We didn't score that way, but goals will come. Next they'll learn to do is grow a little chemistry and know when to come off the board into the slot and create traffic in the crease. Ugly goals will come - especially with Clarkson there. That's his bread and butter.

- I think Holland played very well too, and deserved more than the 10 min he got.

- Gleason has been a good addition ... he definitely brings something to the table that we didn't have

- Lupul and Gardiner took the prize last night for making most stupidest plays. Gardiner scored a beautiful goal but to give up that 3rd Bruins goal, that's something he's learn to play much better. He had a lot more time and space than he thought. His left side was open, he could have sent the puck along the board on his forehand and the Leafs winger is right there. Instead he banked it off the back of the net with his backhand, and worse, it didn't go around as he wanted and all of a sudden the Bruins were within 1. It's about keeping your cool and not throwing the puck away when you feel you're in trouble. He gotta realize he's much better to try to use his skating to create time and space for himself, than blindly throwing it away hoping it will relieve pressure.

- Who says Bozak isn't a top 6 forward? His first 2 goals were huge in the game last night. Against our nemesis we fell to 0-1 early in the game, and then 1-2 late in the 1st. Given this team's state of mind that's a big hurdle to get over, but Bozak equalized it for us in both cases. Those were huge momentum turning goals.

- In trying to get Kadri out of the funk, Kessel was on his wing last night ... but instead, Kessel had 3A, Kadri ended up with 1S, 0Pts, and just 13 min of icetime.

- I'm REALLY, REALLY hoping this is our 6 pack and we won't see Fraser again.

- McClement was finally where he's comfortable with - a 4th line forward and a PK specialist. It's CRAZY to think Carlyle actually played him on 1st line at one point ... crazy about the extent of injuries, but also crazy our coach saw so much in McClement.

Good solid win, now we play BUF, a very beatable opponent. Let's string 3W's together!

zeke
01-15-2014, 08:46 AM
Bozak has 22pts in 24gms.

CRL
01-15-2014, 08:49 AM
JVR actually woke up and it made the difference

leafman101
01-15-2014, 08:50 AM
- Lupul and Gardiner took the prize last night for making most stupidest plays. Gardiner scored a beautiful goal but to give up that 3rd Bruins goal, that's something he's learn to play much better. He had a lot more time and space than he thought. His left side was open, he could have sent the puck along the board on his forehand and the Leafs winger is right there. Instead he banked it off the back of the net with his backhand, and worse, it didn't go around as he wanted and all of a sudden the Bruins were within 1. It's about keeping your cool and not throwing the puck away when you feel you're in trouble. He gotta realize he's much better to try to use his skating to create time and space for himself, than blindly throwing it away hoping it will relieve pressure.

Yeah, Gardiner really has a low panic threshold. Just remember how poised Kabby used to be with the puck in his own end. With Gardiner's feet he is never really in danger when he has some ice. All he needed to do there was take a peak around. He had time. And more importantly he has the skill to get himself out of trouble.

Too many of the Leafs d play that way. As soon as they get the puck they just fire it off the boards. Phaneuf and Gleason are really the only guys who take that extra second to try and make a play.

Wayward DP
01-15-2014, 08:53 AM
Yeah, Gardiner really has a low panic threshold. Just remember how poised Kabby used to be with the puck in his own end. With Gardiner's feet he is never really in danger when he has some ice. All he needed to do there was take a peak around. He had time. And more importantly he has the skill to get himself out of trouble.

Too many of the Leafs d play that way. As soon as they get the puck they just fire it off the boards. Phaneuf and Gleason are really the only guys who take that extra second to try and make a play.

Yeah, Franson's the king of the blind huck up the boards. Did on on one of our PPs last night in the third, killed a good 30 seconds for the Bruins.

SENSible
01-15-2014, 08:54 AM
That was a huge win for the Leafs.

Will be an interesting week coming up. They've stopped the slide, now can they go on run?

Killer93
01-15-2014, 09:53 AM
Yep, when JVR plays he can play. Question is can he be that consistent force we saw last night. I absolutely loved the line combos; having 2 legit scoring lines and a 3rd line that wasn't a black hole made all the difference. If Randy iced same line up last night we would have been routed.

LeafGm
01-15-2014, 10:10 AM
Yep, when JVR plays he can play. Question is can he be that consistent force we saw last night. I absolutely loved the line combos; having 2 legit scoring lines and a 3rd line that wasn't a black hole made all the difference. If Randy iced same line up last night we would have been routed.
It'd be nice if JVR could find that next gear and make the step up to elite, but at the very least, so far this season he's proving that he is the 30 goal/60~ point winger that we saw last year, rather than the 15-20 goal/40-45 point player he was when he was with the Flyers.

2012-13: GP 48, G 18, A 14, Pts 32 (GP 82, G 30, A 24, Pts 54)
2013-14: GP 46, G 18, A 18, Pts 36 (GP 82, G 32, A 32, Pts 64)

Killer93
01-15-2014, 10:14 AM
Funny enough even if he caps out as a 60pt winger, that Schenn trade still looks amazing. I think JVR will cap around 70 to 75 pts

BG
01-15-2014, 10:24 AM
True, while I do like both goalies (for different reasons) I need to see a full workload from one of them. At this point though given how shitty they play in front of the goalies its better to play both of them instead of risking burning one or both of them out.

How does one burn out two goalies?

number17
01-15-2014, 10:27 AM
JVR has the potential to be even better, but even a 30G 50-60 Points winger is a bona-fide 1st liner already.

It's not like 30G wingers grow on trees.

LeafGm
01-15-2014, 10:27 AM
If Schenn could even crack our defense at all, he'd likely be on the bottom pairing. And even then, a scap-heap pick-up like Gleason more than adequately replaces him. He may even be a better skater than Schenn as well. So yeah, pretty huge steal by Burke there. It's lucky he managed to trade away Schitt while he still had some of that perceived draft value attached to his name.

leafman101
01-15-2014, 10:30 AM
JVR has the potential to be even better, but even a 30G 50-60 Points winger is a bona-fide 1st liner already.

It's not like 30G wingers grow on trees.

not only is he a 30 goal first line winger. He has turned himself into one of the best players in front of the net in the league. Guys like that really don't grow on trees. He's like Holmstrom with skill and skating.

Wayward DP
01-15-2014, 10:59 AM
Yeah, JVR is awesome. Still struggles with his consistency, but he's a really rare talent, and has great chemistry with Phil.

PKForce81
01-15-2014, 11:22 AM
Yeah, JVR is awesome. Still struggles with his consistency, but he's a really rare talent, and has great chemistry with Phil.

He only struggles in games where teams force us to play on the boards quite a bit. Last night though, it helped that lines were changed and Lupul and Bozie did a lot of the dirty work(and JVR tried more for a change)..It's a good line and it balances the rest too.

Naz was quite good too(2 PP's came from his work down low).

Metalleaf
01-15-2014, 11:41 AM
[QUOTE=Pronger84;2238499]Typical poster on here, you clearly know when another poster is right so instead of admitting it you resort to chilidsh remarks, time for you to grow up.

Let me ask you something do you have anything intelligent to contribute to this thread?[QUOTE]

I have no need to, you're doing swimmingly Spuds.

Stop being chilidish

LeafGm
01-15-2014, 11:48 AM
Stop being chilidish
I disagree.

Deckie, I fully support your childishness.

soco22
01-15-2014, 11:49 AM
Happy to see gardiner on the first unit PP. Though in the back on my mind it could be just to showcase him.

LeafGm
01-15-2014, 11:59 AM
Happy to see gardiner on the first unit PP. Though in the back on my mind it could be just to showcase him.
That could be true, but according to Carlyle, the reason Gardiner got time on the 1st unit is that Franson told the coaching staff partway through the game that he wasn't feeling well (which I'm assuming would be related to the flu bug that's making its way through the team).

zeke
01-15-2014, 12:15 PM
Don't think we'll ever see the season-long consistency from JVR, but at least he's proven that he can raise his game in the big games. No coincidence that he had one of his best game in weeks up against the Bruins.

Thing about JVR is the only reason he was only a 15/45 guy in Philly was because he was getting 2nd/3rd line minutes.

Deckie007
01-15-2014, 01:25 PM
[QUOTE=Deckie007;2238503][QUOTE=Pronger84;2238499]Typical poster on here, you clearly know when another poster is right so instead of admitting it you resort to chilidsh remarks, time for you to grow up.

Let me ask you something do you have anything intelligent to contribute to this thread?

Stop being chilidish

Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

Douche nozzle.

Pronger84
01-15-2014, 02:29 PM
JVR has the potential to be even better, but even a 30G 50-60 Points winger is a bona-fide 1st liner already.

It's not like 30G wingers grow on trees.

JVR has all the tools to be an elite winger (size, strength, speed, shot, net presence) but he lacks the toolbox in the sense where he's inconsistent with nights where he wants it and is the best player out there but there's a lot of others where he sleepwalks and doesn't feel like showing up. If he could ever find the consistency and the drive he'd be one of the better players in the league.

LeafOfFaith
01-15-2014, 02:45 PM
JVR is elite, but just young and relatively green.

He will be a force to be reckoned with, way beyond what he is now, in a year or two.

number17
01-15-2014, 02:52 PM
there isn't really any 'inconsistent 30G scorer' per say ... if 30G scorers are consistent, they'd be 40 or 50G scorers :)

But I get what you're saying ... JVR can be more consistent (so can pretty much every top offensive player except for maybe a handful) ... and he may improve upon his consistency too.

What impresses me about JVR is he makes everything look so easy ... it's like he's running at 7/10th of his natural ability and he's an elite 1st line winger.

AND, JVR raises his game in big games. It's no coincidence his playoff numbers exceed his regular season numbers - that's the case with the Leafs, and also with the Flyers then.

Montana
01-15-2014, 03:56 PM
It's no coincidence his playoff numbers exceed his regular season numbers


It probably is actually.

People like to believe certain guys up their game for big games/playoffs but in the end it's often simply confirmation bias as they take note of it when he has a productive "big game" and don't notice when he doesn't. He's simply a streaky player, sometimes those streaks will occur during "big games" and sometimes they won't.

In the end when these guys play enough playoff games for the most part they all has similar averages to their career norms.

LeafOfFaith
01-15-2014, 04:00 PM
He's a sick, sick talent.

Size, skating, hands, shooting, passing, net presence, PP, PK.

And 23 years old. It doesn't get much better.

Montana
01-15-2014, 04:02 PM
It doesn't get much better.


....and then it does.


When you realize we have him locked up for another 4 full seasons after this one for a measly $4.25 million per year.

Preston_Mizzi
01-15-2014, 05:17 PM
He's not exactly 23, but still.. fairly young. He won't ever be consistent though. Just get this team in the playoffs and you can count on him to perform at a high level.

mbow30
01-15-2014, 05:26 PM
the key to jvr's development will be his work with the puck when he isn't moving at full steam.

he's fast and huge, which is why he can beat guys so easily on the outside. but he isn't very good at all with the puck on his stick deep in the offensive zone.

he might figure that out, or he might not.

if he does the sky's the limit.

if he doesn't, he's like a jeff carter. nothing wrong with that, but not a star.

LeafOfFaith
01-15-2014, 05:50 PM
35-40 goal guys are stars, and JVR will be a consistent 35-40 goal guy with the proper supporting cast.

Pronger84
01-15-2014, 06:01 PM
35-40 goal guys are stars, and JVR will be a consistent 35-40 goal guy with the proper supporting cast.

JVR was on pace for 31 goals last season over a full 82 schedule, this year he's on pace for roughly the same. He's only put up 20 plus goals once so far and has yet to even crack 30, at this point he's not a 35-40 goal scorer, that's not to say he could be down the road though.

hockeylover
01-15-2014, 06:43 PM
Missed this game altogether. Didn't hear anything about it til it was over.

So big win of course. I miss all the good ones.

Bleedsblue&white
01-15-2014, 06:50 PM
Missed this game altogether. Didn't hear anything about it til it was over.

So big win of course. I miss all the good ones.

In that case, there's no games this week.

LeafGm
01-15-2014, 08:29 PM
How is that not a penalty for goalie interference on Stafford?

SundinsTooth
01-15-2014, 08:35 PM
Psst....wrong thread LGM.