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Killer93
01-20-2014, 01:53 PM
http://thewindsornaysayer.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/leafs.jpg vs https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvHTE5B39tfgqnGPMXkGppluYEdUHf3 FlGmXT62_-TpHQbuLn2

Big game tonight, need to shoot for 5 straight wins and put some separation between us and the rest of the pack. No word yet for starting goaltenders but going to assume its a split between Bernier and Reimer for tonight and tomorrow in Colorado

STARTING LINEUPS:

21 James van Riemsdyk - 42 Tyler Bozak - 81 Phil Kessel
12 Mason Raymond - 43 Nazem Kadri - 19 Joffrey Lupul (A)
41 Nikolai Kulemin - 21 Peter Holland - 37 Carter Ashton
40 Troy Brodie - 11 Jay McClement (A) - 28 Colton Orr

3 Dion Phaneuf (C) - 36 Carl Gunnarson (A)
4 Cody Franson - 8 Tim Gleason
51 Jake Gardiner - 44 Morgan Rielly

45 Jonathan Bernier / 34 James Reimer

34 Tim Kennedy - 11 Martin Hanzal (A) - 17 Radim Vrbata
28 Lauri Korpikoski - 50 Antoine Vermette - 89 Mikkel Boedker
19 Shane Doan (C) - 63 Mike Ribeiro - 18 Dave Moss
24 Kyle Chipchura - 14 Jeff Halpern - 29 Jordan Szwarz

23 Oliver Ekman-Larsson - 53 Derek Morris
3 Keith Yandle (A) - 26 Mike Stone
4 Zbynek Michalek - 6 David Schlemko

41 Mike Smith / 1 Thomas Greiss


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4rc-rmvEd8

http://1.cdn.nhle.com/mapleleafs/v2/ext/gif/jvr_cellie.gif

da_next_kid
01-20-2014, 03:35 PM
Think Kulemin is playing the right wing on Kadri line. Lupes is also playing the left side on Kadri's line.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 03:59 PM
Side note to this game - David Moss is Phil Kessel's 1st cousin, and is apparently the guy who got all of the Kessels (Blake, Amanda, Phil) into playing hockey. So, a bit of a family rivalry element to this game.

number17
01-20-2014, 04:06 PM
I don't even know when's the last time we won 5 in a row ... but we can sure use a winning streak now.

Pronger84
01-20-2014, 04:09 PM
I don't even know when's the last time we won 5 in a row ... but we can sure use a winning streak now.

I agree we need to go on a tear, and we haven't won 5 in a row in nearly 5 years.

Montana
01-20-2014, 05:08 PM
@jonasTSN1050: The Leafs last won five in a row in Feb. 2007. Andrew Raycroft started in goal. Paul Maurice was head coach. Alex Steen scored winner.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 06:03 PM
Hah, blast from the past.

Raycroft, Steen and Maurice.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 07:06 PM
Let's hope they can extend the winning streak. They looked great on Saturday, but I am concerned about the way they play after strong game, given the ups and downs so far this season. This team really needs to get consistent with their improved play over the past few games.

blacksheep
01-20-2014, 07:12 PM
Maybe they need a Coyote to spew some garbage before the game like a certain Hab defender did last game...

Killer93
01-20-2014, 07:42 PM
**** just found out its on LTV, any streams?

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 07:56 PM
Last time we won in Phoenix was October 23, 2003

This guy had 2 goals

http://the1jasontaylor.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/24-owen-nolan.jpg

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 08:03 PM
Good wheels kiddo.

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 08:10 PM
Bodie sucks, he has to stay wider there.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 08:12 PM
It would be nice if Randy iced a lineup without one of his brainfarts in it. Bodie should not be skating with Holland, but rather Ashton.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 08:16 PM
Decent road period for the Leafs thus far.

leafman101
01-20-2014, 08:16 PM
Bernier made a nice play holding Szwarz stick when he had the empty net.

Corky27
01-20-2014, 08:18 PM
any streams someone can share?

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 08:19 PM
Gardiner makes some awful decisions sometimes.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 08:19 PM
Gardiner awful so far

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 08:19 PM
Which defenceman gifted Phoenix that play?

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:23 PM
Yup, ashton looks like he's getting some confudence with the puck, while bodie keeps killing chances. Swap should be made asap.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 08:23 PM
Gardiner's lucky the Leafs haven't been burned by one of his giveaways yet.

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 08:25 PM
Of course Gardiner scores lol.

CRL
01-20-2014, 08:25 PM
Gards redeemed himself

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:25 PM
Randy has the blender out already.

Maybe to get kessel away from OEL.

Edit: sweet we got the first one. Huge.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 08:25 PM
Gards!!

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 08:26 PM
Jake, baby!

Feyd
01-20-2014, 08:26 PM
Redemption for Gardiner.

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:28 PM
Last three lines (i think):

Ray/jvr - kadri - kessel
Ray/jvr - bozak - lupul
Kuly - mcclem - bodie

Or sonething.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 08:29 PM
11 points in 6 games for Kessel

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:30 PM
Oh this would be a great time to score. Can't remember the last time we had an early 2gl lead

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 08:30 PM
Great opportunity for a 2 goal lead.

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:30 PM
WOOT

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
Big Philly style!!!

CRL
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
SNIPES!

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
12 points in 6 games

Killer93
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
Kadri heating up too, TRADE HIM!

Feyd
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
<3 Kessel.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
So hot.

Nice job to grab the 2 goal lead on the road.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
****ing love Kessel, locked up for 8 yrs baby

Montana
01-20-2014, 08:32 PM
This team gives me a boner.

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:33 PM
Kessel tied for 7th in league scoring.

Bleedsblue&white
01-20-2014, 08:34 PM
Nice start, hard to do with this crowd, but maybe all the Leaf fans are giving them a boost.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 08:35 PM
"Decent" road period upgraded to "Great" road period.

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:36 PM
Kadri heating up too, TRADE HIM!

7pts in his last 7.3gms

Rumpleforeskin
01-20-2014, 08:37 PM
Need to keep this going, no sitting back playing passive hockey Carlyle

zeke
01-20-2014, 08:51 PM
Phaneuf 8:38 (25:54)
Gunnar 6:11 (18:33)

Gardiner 7:45 (23:15)
Rielly 4:45 (14:15)

Gleason 6:25 (19:15)
Franson 6:16 (18:48)

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 09:02 PM
Franson is bad...

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Gunnarsson!!

zeke
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Bozak 6:34 (19:42) - 50%
Kessel 6:32 (19:36)
Vanryk 6:13 (18:39)

Kadri 7:12 (21:36) - 67%
Lupul 7:39 (22:57)
Kuly 6:39 (19:57)

Holland 4:04 (12:12) - 100%
Raymond 4:41 (14:03)
Bodie 4:27 (13:21)

Mcclem 2:43 (8:09) - 25%
Ashton 1:28 (4:24)
Orr 1:48 (5:24)

I likethose minutes.

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Gunnar in your grill!!!

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
**** yeah, Gunnar. Well deserved.

zeke
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Promote ashton already.

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Ashton is having a fantastic game btw.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 09:06 PM
Gunnarson >

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 09:06 PM
That's a rare feat.

Great to see them build on the lead. Keep attacking.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:07 PM
Great save Bernier.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 09:07 PM
Big save there.

No call on holding Jake was criminal.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 09:09 PM
oh and Bernier >

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 09:10 PM
Ashton is having a fantastic game btw.
Yeah, it's awesome having a quality young player on the fourth line rather than Orr and McLaren.

Also, Team Canada goofed. Jonathan Bernier >> Mike Smith.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 09:10 PM
Ashton/Broll/D'Amigo >>>> Orr/McLaren

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 09:11 PM
LeafsTV is a terrible product btw. Where's Big Money Tim to fix that?

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 09:12 PM
Ashton/Broll/D'Amigo >>>> Orr/McLaren
You could throw Leivo in thre too.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:12 PM
Not sure about the criticisms about the Leafs playing "too defensive". They're playing a great road game thus far.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 09:12 PM
Leafs starting to play like shit, Kadri with a bad high stick that goes to Rielly.

KingTucker
01-20-2014, 09:15 PM
Also, Team Canada goofed. Jonathan Bernier >> Mike Smith.

Bernie would need to have a Hasek-like season and then he'd barely get consideration.
Blue & White Bias <<<.

Good to see our defence scoring anyway...

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:16 PM
God damn, Rielly can skate.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:16 PM
Bernie would need to have a Hasek-like season and then he'd barely get consideration.
Blue & White Bias <<<.

Good to see our defence scoring anyway...
It's true, Leaf goalies will probably never get respect when it comes to Olympic consideration.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 09:17 PM
Gardiner is like a Tale of Two Cities...the best of times, the worst of times.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 09:17 PM
Cujo got in

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:18 PM
Cujo got in
Lasted 1 game.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 09:19 PM
Nahh. Cujo and Belfour both got picked for Team Canada. If Bernier plays .920ish hockey annually and has some playoff success between now and the next Olympics, he'll be there next time too.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 09:21 PM
Lasted 1 game.
Yeah, and that's one more game than Cujo should have got on a team with Ed Belfour and Martin Brodeur.

zeke
01-20-2014, 09:22 PM
Its not even about bernie..... More about how bad a choice smith is.

Dude has had one good year ever.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:23 PM
Yeah, and that's one more game than Cujo should have got on a team with Ed Belfour and Martin Brodeur.
And I remember the media reports on how it poisoned the water between him and Quinn, and was a driving force in Cujo leaving Toronto for Detroit.

Montana
01-20-2014, 09:23 PM
In fairness to team Canada, it's tough to take a guy like Bernier based on so few games.....he keeps this up, he'll get a shot next time.

If he had Reimer's track record and was doing what he is this year, he'd have been a lock for that #2 or 3 spot.


zeke's right tho.....Smith is a poor choice regardless, there's plenty of guy who should have been there over him.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 09:25 PM
Yeah, it's a total head scratcher that they picked Smith.

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 09:26 PM
Imagine if Phil Kessel wasn't one dimensional?

Montana
01-20-2014, 09:26 PM
Watching the Yotes broadcast.....they're absolutely fawning over our team. I think it's the most respect I've ever seen a broadcast crew give our team.


Like, ever.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 09:29 PM
Jake has been shambolic tonight

minus the goal, of course.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 09:29 PM
Watching the Yotes broadcast.....they're absolutely fawning over our team. I think it's the most respect I've ever seen a broadcast crew give our team.


Like, ever.
Yeah, I watched the first period on Phoenix's broadcast. They spent a lot of time talking up our #1 line.

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 09:29 PM
Kessel is a machine.

Gardiner has been a horror show defensively tonight, yikes.

And that arena is so empty I wouldnt be surprised if there were actual coyotes roaming the aisles.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 09:29 PM
Imagine if Phil Kessel wasn't one dimensional?

All I have to say is thank god that there's an 8 year contract maximum in place.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 09:30 PM
Gardiner man lol

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:30 PM
heh, Alice Cooper looks completely stoned out of his mind.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 09:33 PM
It's a miracle we got out of that period without getting scored on.

Why must we always collapse into a shambolic defensive shell when we get a lead?

Killer93
01-20-2014, 09:35 PM
Clearly we miss Clarkson

mbow30
01-20-2014, 09:35 PM
gardiner is an amazing skater and he's quite good off the puck.

but his decision making with the puck is pretty awful. he either rushes plays or hangs on to the puck for way too long. he can't find the space in between where you have to be to be a good puck moving defenseman.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:36 PM
Funny how much better this team plays WITHOUT Clarkson in the lineup. Surely we're not the only ones that notice...

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 09:36 PM
Phoenix had 15 shots, but none of them were all that dangerous...Leafs need to be better though...

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 09:39 PM
Funny how much better this team plays WITHOUT Clarkson in the lineup. Surely we're not the only ones that notice...
Most of the kids that we've called up (Ashton, D'Amigo, Holland, Leivo, Broll) have flat out been better than Clarkson has been for us this year. No doubt about it.

zeke
01-20-2014, 09:42 PM
Franson 15:50 (23:45)
Gleason 14:09 (21:14)

Phaneuf 14:39 (21:59)
Gunnar 13:03 (19:35)

Gardiner 13:53 (20:49)
Rielly 8:58 (13:27)

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 09:42 PM
As soon as they get a decent lead, Randy starts leaning on McSelke ... who then promptly kills any play north of his own blueline.

It's ridiculous that Ashton has less than 2 minutes in this game.

zeke
01-20-2014, 09:51 PM
Bozak 13:55 (20:52) - 39%
Kessel 12:13 (18:20)
Vanryk 11:19 (17:59)

Kadri 12:49 (19:14) - 45%
Lupul 15:35 (23:22)
Kulemin 15:09 (22:44)

Holland 6:24 (9:36) - 100%
Raymond 8:28 (12:42)
Bodie 7:16 (10:54)

Mcclem 8:18 (12:27)
Ashton 1:51 (2:45)
Orr 2:11 (3:16)

zeke
01-20-2014, 09:51 PM
As soon as they get a decent lead, Randy starts leaning on McSelke ... who then promptly kills any play north of his own blueline.

It's ridiculous that Ashton has less than 2 minutes in this game.

Meh, with the game tommorrow, play the hell out of mcselke tonight now.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 09:52 PM
Look for him to cut back ice time to bigger guns if we seal it early

Montana
01-20-2014, 09:57 PM
Hope we can hang on for the shutout, Bernier's due for one and his play tonight is deserving of one....he's locked in.

Feyd
01-20-2014, 09:58 PM
Nice bullshit penalty on Phaneuf.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 09:58 PM
Oh my god, this officiating sucks...

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 09:59 PM
NHL officials ... always innovating.

leafman101
01-20-2014, 09:59 PM
Lupul is the worst at 3rd period hockey. He was the high man there and he jumped in when the Yotes got the puck. Earlier he turned the puck over at the blue line trying to make a cross ice pass instead of putting it in deep. With 40 seconds left in the 2nd he had the puck on the goal line and instead of grinding it out he tried to take a bad angle shot and fanned on it and the puck went the other way.

You can try and score still, just be safe with the puck.

SundinsTooth
01-20-2014, 09:59 PM
Only the NHL could **** up that call.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:00 PM
How in the sweet bloody **** do you get a tripping penalty for tripping a guy after the play was blown dead on an off side?

That is the worst call in the history of the NHL people as you have to forget both the rulebook, and the linear passage of time that we're all familiar with for it to make any sense.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:00 PM
Horrific penalty kill

Feyd
01-20-2014, 10:00 PM
Bernier shutout jinxed.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:01 PM
Credit where it's due, that was a filthy play by the Yandle.

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 10:01 PM
After that call, that was inevitable.

leafman101
01-20-2014, 10:01 PM
Dumb play by gunnar. Can't throw it up the middle.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:01 PM
So of course they score on the most ridiculous penalty I've ever seen in my entire ****ing life.

I'm at a loss for words on just how asinine a penalty that is. People should lose their jobs over calls like that.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:02 PM
Kulemin blew his assignment there.....left Ribeiro all alone.

SundinsTooth
01-20-2014, 10:03 PM
the coyote howling is so terrible...

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:03 PM
Franson holy ****

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 10:03 PM
Get this one back so we don't have to white knuckle the rest of the game.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:03 PM
franson is a ****ing idiot.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 10:03 PM
What the hell? Did these guys all go out drinking last night?

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:05 PM
what the hell was gardiner doing there? rielly made the right play, gardiner wasn't paying attention and was out of position.

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 10:05 PM
counting the days till Franson is gone. christ what a maroon.

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 10:07 PM
why didn't we give Ribeiro Clarkson's money again?

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 10:08 PM
Franson has really blown his chance for a big payday. I do not care about his point totals, he has been a walking disaster.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:08 PM
Lupul is the worst at 3rd period hockey. He was the high man there and he jumped in when the Yotes got the puck. Earlier he turned the puck over at the blue line trying to make a cross ice pass instead of putting it in deep. With 40 seconds left in the 2nd he had the puck on the goal line and instead of grinding it out he tried to take a bad angle shot and fanned on it and the puck went the other way.

You can try and score still, just be safe with the puck.

yup

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 10:08 PM
why didn't we give Ribeiro Clarkson's money again?

He was the guy I wanted in the off season and said so many times. URGH.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:09 PM
why didn't we give Ribeiro Clarkson's money again?

something something truculence

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 10:10 PM
yotes shooting themselves in the foot with penalties. good break for the Leafs.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:10 PM
Make up call from the refs.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
holy christ franson

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
Franson is so bad...

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
Franson what the jesus.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
yup... all the stick's fault, cody

axlsalinger
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
yotes shooting themselves in the foot with penalties. good break for the Leafs.

That penalty was completely absurd. For some reason the referee shot him in the foot that time.

Leafin'
01-20-2014, 10:12 PM
I hate Ribeiro. The fact people want that guy on the team makes me sick.

I'd rather Bolland - Bozak - Kadri...

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:12 PM
bernier has been awesome today. he's made a handful of those stops look DAMN easy, with rebounds floating harmlessly into the corners or the half boards.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 10:12 PM
These refs are getting way too creative here.

Franson is a ****ing horrorshow. Time to get Ranger back in the lineup.

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 10:12 PM
franson has become a grenade with the pin pulled.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:12 PM
Nice interception Jake.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:12 PM
Time for someone other than Franson to get a look on that 1st PP unit. How does someone firing wrist shots on net get them blocked so frequently?...and his lack of foot speed creates a lot of tense moments whenever he's tracking back for the puck.

axlsalinger
01-20-2014, 10:13 PM
Bernier >

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:14 PM
bernier has been awesome today. he's made a handful of those stops look DAMN easy, with rebounds floating harmlessly into the corners or the half boards.


Yeah, he makes it look crazy easy.....he's so positionally sound that despite his size, he doesn't give them shit to shoot at. When he seems the shot, he corals the rebound or deflects it harmlessly to the boards every single time.

When he's feeling confident, he's near impossible to beat clean.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:16 PM
Time for someone other than Franson to get a look on that 1st PP unit. How does someone firing wrist shots on net get them blocked so frequently?...and his lack of foot speed creates a lot of tense moments whenever he's tracking back for the puck.


Rielly-Phaneuf...needs to happen already.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:16 PM
Bozak >

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 10:16 PM
nice, another PP

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:16 PM
Rielly-Phaneuf...needs to happen already.

+1

axlsalinger
01-20-2014, 10:16 PM
Clear and obvious penalty there. Surprised to see the ref raise his hand.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 10:17 PM
Good work by Bozak to draw that penalty.

Wayward DP
01-20-2014, 10:18 PM
Heh, the Yotes broadcasters just spent the past shift talking about how great Franson has been today. Gards too.

Nice work by Bozie there.

And Bernie has been really, really good. He makes it look real easy sometimes.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:19 PM
Jesus, that move by Naz at the line was diiiirty......kids just got filthy mittens.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:20 PM
Nazem Kadri!!!

TimHorton
01-20-2014, 10:20 PM
That is a dirty, diiirty, goal.

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 10:20 PM
Kadri couldnt have picked a better time to start getting hot.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Hard to believe, but I think we've run into a team with more dummies than the Leafs.

Killer93
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Trade that bum!!!

axlsalinger
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Nazty!

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Nice



*fist pump*

Deckie007
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Nazeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem!

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Kay, I'll shut up about the refs tonight.

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 10:21 PM
Yotes take another penalty, lol

Bleedsblue&white
01-20-2014, 10:22 PM
We needed that, and so did Kadri.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 10:22 PM
That play by Gardiner was hilarious. Loses the blueline, then skates back to get the puck and immediately turns it back around and into the Coyotes zone again.

SundinsTooth
01-20-2014, 10:22 PM
these refs....

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:23 PM
That play by Gardiner was hilarious. Loses the blueline, then skates back to get the puck and immediately turns it back around and into the Coyotes zone again.

Good thing he has wheels, if that was #4 we'd be having a fit.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:23 PM
Heh.


What a terrible penalty call on OEL.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:23 PM
For those keeping score at home, that's points in 3 straight games for Morgan O'Rielly

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:24 PM
UGH

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:24 PM
Rielly got beat on a foot race.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 10:24 PM
Brutal.

hockeylover
01-20-2014, 10:24 PM
Holy ****. Thank god for that goal by Naz.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:25 PM
rielly got caught staring at the puck there. he caught back up then stopped skating when he turned to look at the puck.

hockeylover
01-20-2014, 10:25 PM
I'm at work. Leafs better not blow this.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:26 PM
We get way too nonchalant on the PP....way, way too nonchalant at times. Feet stop moving.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:27 PM
rielly got caught staring at the puck there. he caught back up then stopped skating when he turned to look at the puck.


Yeah, he was doing well to get back and then seemed to give up a stride or two too early.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:27 PM
gunnarsson on the pp for franson.

good.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:29 PM
Lupul nearly potted one with the sneaky little flick on net.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:30 PM
Jay McSelke brought in to protect the lead...yet Troy Bodie left out on that line.

Seriously

Raymond-McSelke-Brody

is Randy's idea of a 3rd line out to protect the lead.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:31 PM
they're doing it again... just scrum that behind the net. trying to force pucks into the slot with 3 forwards either standing on or behind the goal line is just begging to get scored on.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:31 PM
lupul just gave the coyotes the leafs' zone because of that idiotic shot.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:32 PM
mcselke just made a great play on vrbata

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:32 PM
Jesus, what a f*cking save by Bernier.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:32 PM
mcselke can't even score on an empty net.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 10:33 PM
Ach, what are you doing Raymond?

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:33 PM
Raymond, you greedy, stunned ****.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:34 PM
mcselke just made a great play on vrbata

He did, beauty back check

Volcanologist
01-20-2014, 10:35 PM
Bodie is so, so bad.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:35 PM
Gleason takes one for the team.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:36 PM
they needed a gleason in game 7 last year.

that's twice in the past 10 days that he has come up big to stop a scoring chance with the other team's net empty.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 10:36 PM
Another solid game from Kadri ... great to see him coming around.

Very solid game from Bernier, as well as Gunnar and most of the other guys not named Franson, Lupul, Bodie or Raymond.

Leafin'
01-20-2014, 10:36 PM
Gleason has been frickin solid.

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:36 PM
Boom. 1st 5 game win streak since 2007.

MindzEye
01-20-2014, 10:37 PM
#TrendingBackToReality

axlsalinger
01-20-2014, 10:37 PM
2 goals against in the third ... another terrible performance by Bernier.

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 10:37 PM
Big win. We're now five points up on Detroit, and two points back of Montreal.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 10:37 PM
Five big ones. That's the way to deal with the skid they had. So much for another epic collapse.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 10:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutCYC3dH-E

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:38 PM
they needed a gleason in game 7 last year.

that's twice in the past 10 days that he has come up big to stop a scoring chance with the other team's net empty.


He's exactly what we needed.....I could give a f*ck about his contract, that was a stellar pick up by Nonis.

He'll just become even more valuable come playoff time.

SundinsTooth
01-20-2014, 10:38 PM
2 goals against in the third ... another terrible performance by Bernier.

heh

LeafGm
01-20-2014, 10:38 PM
they needed a gleason in game 7 last year.

that's twice in the past 10 days that he has come up big to stop a scoring chance with the other team's net empty.
Yeah, he's been a great add so far. Solid veteran D who's willing to sacrifice the body. And such a big improvement on Ranger and Fraser.

axlsalinger
01-20-2014, 10:38 PM
It's looking like a heckuva trade. Not that Gleason is necessarily a better overall player than Liles, but the way this defense is constructed, we had absolutely no need for JML. And all kinds of need for what Gleason brings.

Wayward DP
01-20-2014, 10:40 PM
I'm really starting to dislike Mason Raymond. And Franson is just so so dumb

Montana
01-20-2014, 10:42 PM
.927 on 1198 shots for Bernier this year.


.919 over 2751 shots on his career.

BeLeafer
01-20-2014, 10:42 PM
2 goals against in the third ... another terrible performance by Bernier.

As long as he isn't giving up the lead or tie, it's not a problem. Still has to prove he won't do so consistently ... mock your strawman all you like.

mbow30
01-20-2014, 10:42 PM
Yeah, he's been a great add so far. Solid veteran D who's willing to sacrifice the body. And such a big improvement on Ranger and Fraser.

it isn't just that he's wiling to block shots. it's that he clears the net, and he lets his goalie sees shots, and he knows how to break up the cycle and he knows how to start the rush without just throwing it to the other team or icing it.

leafman101
01-20-2014, 10:43 PM
McSelke did a solid job grinding that last shift out, but this is a different team with Bolland in there. Will be great to get him back soon.

Getting another vet like Gleason who just makes good plays will be huge.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 10:47 PM
Yeah if we could trade away Franson and replace him with a Gleason type who is responsible in his own end, tough, gritty that would really solidify the defense.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 10:48 PM
#teambernier

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 10:50 PM
So glad the offense has finally come back around. Having Kadri playing well really spreads the offense out. Makes the Leafs a dangerous team.

Leafin'
01-20-2014, 10:52 PM
Having Bozak back has been a huge influence on the lineup.

Underrated.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 10:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeeXcfmCQAAI0tT.jpg

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 10:56 PM
Having Bozak back has been a huge influence on the lineup.

Underrated.

No doubt about it. Bozak has been terrific this year and is extremely important.

Also, not having Clarkson dragging down the 2nd and 3rd lines is helping. Leafs continue to thrive without him in the lineup.

JaysCyYoung
01-20-2014, 10:58 PM
That was an awful, awful hockey game to watch. I've seen atom games with better passing and fluidity to them. Thankfully we got the two (regulation) points and get to leave the desert behind...

First five-game win streak since February 2007.

Leafin'
01-20-2014, 11:03 PM
This team still needs work. I think having Bolland back will really solidify our forwards. We have to decide if we are keeping Kulemin or not. It'd be a piss off to lose him for nothing in the offseason.

Metalleaf
01-20-2014, 11:07 PM
James Mirtle
Bernier's save percentage on season rises to .927. Among goalies with 30+ games played, only Bishop and Rask are better.

Montana
01-20-2014, 11:34 PM
That was an awful, awful hockey game to watch. I've seen atom games with better passing and fluidity to them. Thankfully we got the two (regulation) points and get to leave the desert behind...


Really? I enjoyed the shit out of that game.

Bleedsblue&white
01-20-2014, 11:34 PM
Hey foreverTML,
it's okay to hang out when the Leafs are doing well. Don't see you around much when there isn't much to bitch about, but come on buddy, be happy.

MapleLeafBlueJayBoy
01-20-2014, 11:37 PM
Hey foreverTML,
it's okay to hang out when the Leafs are doing well. Don't see you around much when there isn't much to bitch about, but come on buddy, be happy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_R-G_i4Xk

number17
01-21-2014, 12:58 AM
Clarkson was bad early in the season, but I think he's been excellent on the line with Holland and Kulemin. In the 2 games they played together the line was excellent with the cycle game, controlling the puck along the board, and even scored in the 2nd game (Believe it was Kulemin who scored, Clarkson screening the goalie).

The Leafs are a better team with the Clarkson - Holland - Kulemin line as our 3rd line. Holland and Kulemin haven't been nearly as effective in their current lines.

number17
01-21-2014, 01:03 AM
I think how well Gleason has played surprised a lot of people, including probably Nonis himself.

It shows maybe it's flawed to have 6 puck moving d-men to form the d-core to begin with ... which is not to say you fill the lineup with Fraser's, but having smart defensive players like Gleason who plays within his limit, can move the puck up safely, plays a physical game while playing in position all the times ... maybe we can use another Gleason.

To his credit, this isn't the same Gleason who played himself to the 3rd unit in Carolina. The fresh start has kinda reset his game too, and he's playing a lot more like the Olympian 4 years ago.

The irony is - even with a more stable partner in Gleason, Franson is still playing so sloppy defensively and making all kinds of mistakes every single game.

da_next_kid
01-21-2014, 06:28 AM
Torrent link for those of us who missed the game like I did; http://www.putlocker.com/file/C11AD8B1E8E049FF

ForeverTML
01-21-2014, 07:31 AM
Hey foreverTML,
it's okay to hang out when the Leafs are doing well. Don't see you around much when there isn't much to bitch about, but come on buddy, be happy.
Im still here doofus.

I was in class, couldnt watch the game, will be there again tonight so cant watch tonight either. I was there when the leafs won the past 4 games. Go back and check before you bait, buddy.

Should I let you know where I am every night so you dont bitch about me?

Great win. wonder what Randy did to get this team to hustle again - didnt see that for 2 months. Cant wait for Bolland.

rated
01-21-2014, 07:49 AM
I was there when the leafs won the past 4 games. Go back and check before you bait, buddy.

I checked. You bitch when they win, you bitch when they lose.


Great win. wonder what Randy did to get this team to hustle again - didnt see that for 2 months. Cant wait for Bolland.

This is the only positive thing you've seen during this 5 game win streak. I'd say bleedsblue&white original comment was justified.

ForeverTML
01-21-2014, 08:16 AM
I checked. You bitch when they win, you bitch when they lose.

No, just stop making yourself look dumb.


This is the only positive thing you've seen during this 5 game win streak. I'd say bleedsblue&white original comment was justified.
Im glad you are keeping track of what I say and dont say. I only caught NJ and habs game, which I commented on. I am the biggest fan when the team is playing.

F me for having classes start up, I get lambasted for not saying shit when I havent even had a chance to watch.

da_next_kid
01-21-2014, 08:19 AM
Hey ForeverTML, if you missed the game bud, I posted a link for the full game torrent few posts up. Love this team when we're winning.

rated
01-21-2014, 08:22 AM
No, just stop making yourself look dumb.

Looking at your posts from the last week, that's all on you bud. When the leafs win you bitch and look dumb, when the leafs lose you bitch and look dumb.



Im glad you are keeping track of what I say and dont say. I only caught NJ and habs game, which I commented on. I am the biggest fan when the team is playing.

I'm not keeping track. I couldn't care less about your posting history. It took 30 seconds look up your posts and find out all you do is bitch 24/7. And the only reason I even did that was because you couldn't own up to it when someone else called ya on it.


F me for having classes start up, I get lambasted for not saying shit when I havent even had a chance to watch.

No you got lambasted for bitching all the time lol

JackBurton
01-21-2014, 08:36 AM
The thing is, Franson still has strong trade value. He's still young, big, and given his shot, he'd have a lot of teams interested. You can still sell pretty high on him.

ForeverTML
01-21-2014, 08:46 AM
Looking at your posts from the last week, that's all on you bud. When the leafs win you bitch and look dumb, when the leafs lose you bitch and look dumb.
The NJ game, they looked like crap, yeah. Did you watch the game? You are making yourself look dumber.



I'm not keeping track. I couldn't care less about your posting history. It took 30 seconds look up your posts and find out all you do is bitch 24/7. And the only reason I even did that was because you couldn't own up to it when someone else called ya on it.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. I gave you my reasons for not commenting, Im not going to repeat myself again.


No you got lambasted for bitching all the time lol

I will be here when we lose and when we win, like it or not and I will call it like I see it. lol

ForeverTML
01-21-2014, 08:47 AM
Hey ForeverTML, if you missed the game bud, I posted a link for the full game torrent few posts up. Love this team when we're winning.
Sweet, I was always looking for torrents of games. Going to miss some in the next few mths.

Wayward DP
01-21-2014, 09:21 AM
Im still here doofus.

I was in class, couldnt watch the game, will be there again tonight so cant watch tonight either. I was there when the leafs won the past 4 games. Go back and check before you bait, buddy.

Should I let you know where I am every night so you dont bitch about me?

Great win. wonder what Randy did to get this team to hustle again - didnt see that for 2 months. Cant wait for Bolland.

Heh.

Bleedsblue&white
01-21-2014, 11:20 AM
Im still here doofus.

I was in class, couldnt watch the game, will be there again tonight so cant watch tonight either. I was there when the leafs won the past 4 games. Go back and check before you bait, buddy.

Should I let you know where I am every night so you dont bitch about me?

Great win. wonder what Randy did to get this team to hustle again - didnt see that for 2 months. Cant wait for Bolland.


I wasn't baiting. I don't care that you're miserable, it's your life. I couldn't help but notice that you do not post unless you have something bad to say, that's all. I was having some fun, what with the Leafs winning five games. You should try it.

ForeverTML
01-21-2014, 11:55 AM
I wasn't baiting. I don't care that you're miserable, it's your life. I couldn't help but notice that you do not post unless you have something bad to say, that's all. I was having some fun, what with the Leafs winning five games. You should try it.

I find it funny and sad that this forum become a cesspool of people putting down and namecalling leaf fans that are/were frustrated at the team's lackluster play at any point in the season. Seems like any criticism of the team for its play gets you labelled as 'miserable' or 'hftard'. It really is getting hard to post objectively here. Wonder what happened.

I post when I can and when Im not busy with my actual life. I could care less what people think about my posting habits, really.

Bleedsblue&white
01-21-2014, 12:05 PM
Where exactly was I putting you down? A miserable SOB is an insult, miserable is just am emotion...one that you convey through your posts. I don't care if you bitch about the team, but I will notice if that is all you do...no different than noticing someone who always defends their team. It sticks out. How should I take the tone of your posts? Do you believe you come across as happy?

I guarantee that anybody who goes back and reads your last 20 posts will not find anything but bitching. So, while there is nothing wrong with that, there's nothing wrong with being happy sometimes, is there?

Bleedsblue&white
01-21-2014, 12:13 PM
What I find funny is how someone will write something that lots of people will see, then act surprised when someone notices it.
If you don't want to be noticed, I suggest you stop writing down your thoughts where literally millions of people can see them.
Try a diary. With a lock.

ForeverTML
01-21-2014, 12:18 PM
Where exactly was I putting you down? A miserable SOB is an insult, miserable is just am emotion...one that you convey through your posts. I don't care if you bitch about the team, but I will notice if that is all you do...no different than noticing someone who always defends their team. It sticks out. How should I take the tone of your posts? Do you believe you come across as happy?

I guarantee that anybody who goes back and reads your last 20 posts will not find anything but bitching. So, while there is nothing wrong with that, there's nothing wrong with being happy sometimes, is there?

Im not miserable at all actually. I was frustrated. It wasnt what I expected from this team. Seems like we've turned it around and I am ecstatic about it. And again, no disrespect, I really dont care as how I come across to you. Its an internet forum, I will say whats on my mind. If you dont like it, you can ignore it.

You've just noticed because of our consistently poor play and record of ROW over the last 2 months. Thats all it was for 2 months. There was very little good to talk about this team, very little to be happy about and I make no bones about pointing it out. Good on the posters for being optimistic over that time, but our record and play spoke for itself for the last 2 months and thats what I was commenting about. And like you said, nothing wrong with being frustrated when the team plays poorly. Nothing wrong with being happy either - which I am.

SundinsTooth
01-21-2014, 12:20 PM
Just a wild observation, but if you didn't care, I doubt we would be reading post after post about it.

Bleedsblue&white
01-21-2014, 12:24 PM
Just a wild observation, but if you didn't care, I doubt we would be reading post after post about it.
Lol, we all care around here, don't we?

ForeverTML
01-21-2014, 12:27 PM
Its an internet forum, I dont take anything here seriously at all. I doubt others do.

I will be here when we win, and if we lose. I'll be sure to check in with BBW after all wins though, just so he's happy.

hockeylover
01-21-2014, 12:33 PM
For anyone curious, we're 3-8-0 in our 11 games where we've won Fenwick 5 on 5. We're 5-4-2 in our worst 11 Fenwick games (games where our FF% is under 35%).

MikeRofalis
01-21-2014, 12:37 PM
Sounds like a useless stat.

MindzEye
01-21-2014, 12:41 PM
For anyone curious, we're 3-8-0 in our 11 games where we've won Fenwick 5 on 5. We're 5-4-2 in our worst 11 Fenwick games (games where our FF% is under 35%).

All of this noise, is about a 55% correlation with winning over the course of a season. Inversely, in game corsi actually does a very poor job of predicting game outcomes....yes, even more poorly than a 55% correlation.

leafman101
01-21-2014, 12:42 PM
Corsi close last night was 56/44. Fenwick close ws 53/47.

Coyotes only really started dominating Corsi when the leafs went up 3-0 and the game was already over.

Shots were 12-11 Coyotes on 5 on 5 close.

MindzEye
01-21-2014, 12:45 PM
My only comment for TMLForever is this...with the Leafs still in a playoff spot, having only slipped out for a few days at the depth of the slump, when do you get rid of that avatar?

hockeylover
01-21-2014, 12:45 PM
Corsi close last night was 56/44. Fenwick close ws 53/47.

Coyotes only really started dominating Corsi when the leafs went up 3-0 and the game was already over.

Shots were 12-11 Coyotes on 5 on 5 close.

This game wasn't in either of those two sets of 11 games (worst Corsi games or best Corsi games). I should've clarified.

youreachiteach
01-21-2014, 01:34 PM
Franson has been terrible. He must have been read the riot act sometime in the game, as he actually started moving his ass toward the puck after he coughed up the puck for a goal. It's annoying, because he has all the ability in the world to be a physical, talented, intelligent defenseman, we saw it last year.

I don't know. Maybe he's worried about getting hurt in a contract year? The sad thing is, if he'd played hard similar to last year he would've been paid by now.

Still, as much as I love Rielly and Gardiner, playing them together is tantamount to doubling down while gambling. It's awesome when it works but... Despite being the third pairing I counted like almost double digit turnovers between the two of them (unfortunately, Gardiner had like 6 all by himself, which is extra troubling).

That said, Kadri seems to be back, and that'll help Lupul. Winning is nice, but playing sound defensively and aggresively will be what puts us up in the top ecehlon, rather than just a one and done in the playoffs.
Is the answer to sit them? No. But something has to be done to even out the quality of the d-core. Trading Franson for a more "defensive" guy would help, but then I think we'd pay for that come playoff time when we need his skillset against Boston (against whom he seems to play well).

youreachiteach
01-21-2014, 01:49 PM
Perhaps the nature of the schedule this year is contributing to the at times lacklustre play...there is still hope it all coalesces by the time the playoffs come.

Bleedsblue&white
01-21-2014, 02:24 PM
Sometimes when I watch Franson, I think he must be in trouble with the bookies and is trying to throw the game, his mistakes are that bad sometimes.

blacksheep
01-21-2014, 04:45 PM
Franson has been terrible. He must have been read the riot act sometime in the game, as he actually started moving his ass toward the puck after he coughed up the puck for a goal. It's annoying, because he has all the ability in the world to be a physical, talented, intelligent defenseman, we saw it last year.

He's certainly the one who should have been traded, instead of Liles. But we couldn't have landed Gleason with Franson, unless Carolina's GM was drunk.
Franson coughed up the puck more times in this game than Gleason has his entire career, and more times than Liles has in two seasons.

Deckie007
01-21-2014, 04:46 PM
He's certainly the one who should have been traded, instead of Liles. But we couldn't have landed Gleason with Franson, unless Carolina's GM was drunk.Franson coughed up the puck more times in this game than Gleason has his entire career.

http://cdn.thesandtrap.com/c/c2/1000x500px-LL-c28b345c_gleason_not_sure_if_serious.jpeg

Montana
01-21-2014, 05:19 PM
unreal

JaysCyYoung
01-21-2014, 05:24 PM
He's certainly the one who should have been traded, instead of Liles. But we couldn't have landed Gleason with Franson, unless Carolina's GM was drunk.
Franson coughed up the puck more times in this game than Gleason has his entire career, and more times than Liles has in two seasons.

This is one of the most idiotic posts I've seen on this forum.

I realize that Franson has had an inconsistent season, but suggesting that Carolina wouldn't have jumped, jumped at the opportunity to land a 24 year-old 6'5 defender who is one of the leaders in ES points amongst defenders every single season is just full potato.

Wayward DP
01-21-2014, 05:28 PM
Im not miserable at all actually. I was frustrated. It wasnt what I expected from this team. Seems like we've turned it around and I am ecstatic about it. And again, no disrespect, I really dont care as how I come across to you. Its an internet forum, I will say whats on my mind. If you dont like it, you can ignore it.

You've just noticed because of our consistently poor play and record of ROW over the last 2 months. Thats all it was for 2 months. There was very little good to talk about this team, very little to be happy about and I make no bones about pointing it out. Good on the posters for being optimistic over that time, but our record and play spoke for itself for the last 2 months and thats what I was commenting about. And like you said, nothing wrong with being frustrated when the team plays poorly. Nothing wrong with being happy either - which I am.

This is you being happy?

Pronger84
01-21-2014, 06:06 PM
This is one of the most idiotic posts I've seen on this forum.

I realize that Franson has had an inconsistent season, but suggesting that Carolina wouldn't have jumped, jumped at the opportunity to land a 24 year-old 6'5 defender who is one of the leaders in ES points amongst defenders every single season is just full potato.

I agree with both of you to a point Franson has been beyond inconsistent in his own end, he's been downright lazy and moronic defensively, just because he puts up a lot of points doesn't cover up his horrible defensive play. However, I agree that Carolina would gladly take Franson if he was offered, he's just approaching his prime and even if he plays shitty defensively for the rest of his career he can still contribute on the score sheet and powerplay.

JaysCyYoung
01-21-2014, 06:53 PM
It's moreso the notion that Carolina, a team with a tremendous shortage of highly-skilled, mobile defenders that can provide offence beyond Justin Faulk, would turn down a swap for a talented, huge young rearguard for a veteran with a prohibitive salary (at least for a small market team like Carolina) who wasn't even being dressed.

Honestly, the Canes were reportedly trying to unload Gleason for months on end and they would turn down a huge upside player like Franson in return for a guy who has been riding the pine so long he's got splinters up his ass? I just don't understand how someone could conclude that.

JackBurton
01-21-2014, 07:11 PM
Franson has big trade value right now no matter how he's playing.

Bleedsblue&white
01-21-2014, 07:15 PM
I hope we can ride out his mistakes, I don't think he's this bad...something's up.