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LeafGm
02-16-2014, 07:11 AM
So, Bob McKenzie has come out on twitter with the lineup for today's game:

Starting goalie: Carey Price
The scratches: 2013 Art Ross Trophy winner, 2013 James Norris Memorial Trophy winner
The Lines:

Jamie Benn - Sidney Crosby - Patrice Bergeron
Patrick Marleau - Jonathan Toews - Jeff Carter
Patrick Sharp/Chris Kunitz - John Tavares - Rick Nash
Matt Duchene - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry

Duncan Keith - Shea Weber
Mark Edward Pickles - Drew Doughty
Jay Bouwmeester - Alex Pietrangelo
Dan Hamhuis

Carey Price
Roberto Luongo

Kritter
02-16-2014, 07:15 AM
What time is the game on?

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 07:16 AM
12:00 noon, eastern time.

Rumpleforeskin
02-16-2014, 08:33 AM
Crosby and Benn could be a really interesting pair.

Kritter
02-16-2014, 09:25 AM
12:00 noon, eastern time.


Thanks GM

trujaysfan
02-16-2014, 09:29 AM
Is it just me or does our 4th line look way better than our 1st line?

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 09:31 AM
Is it just me or does our 4th line look way better than our 1st line?
With this group, I don't think there really is a #1-4 ranking when it comes to the lines.

hairnova
02-16-2014, 09:36 AM
Glad they took Kunitz off Crosby's line and hopefully Sid gets going today.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 09:40 AM
Glad they took Kunitz off Crosby's line and hopefully Sid gets going today.
Me too, but the fact that they took him off Sid's wing and still left him in the lineup ahead of Marty St-Louis is pretty mind-boggling.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 10:14 AM
Crosby and Bergeron, reuniting from Grand Forks.

CTheBigPicture
02-16-2014, 10:15 AM
Me too, but the fact that they took him off Sid's wing and still left him in the lineup ahead of Marty St-Louis is pretty mind-boggling.

This. It was apparent from the get go that Coach was the reason why they originally didn't pick Marty. Whatever the reason is, he just doesn't like the player.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 10:15 AM
Hopefully Crosby decides to play at some point in this tournament.

hairnova
02-16-2014, 10:15 AM
Crosby and Bergeron, reuniting from Grand Forks.

Crosby - Bergeron - Perry... man, that was a great line.

leafman101
02-16-2014, 10:20 AM
If Kunitz isn't on Crosby's line how the hell do you justify playing him over Martin St. Louis?

Chemistry with Crosby is the only reason he even made the team.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 10:27 AM
Whoever wins this game in reg will be the number 1 seed and play Austria/Norway in the quarters.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 10:30 AM
What a ****ing joke. Hamhuis over Subban….Kunitz over St. Louis?? REALLY!?

zeke
02-16-2014, 10:37 AM
Its funny when i see bergy on the first line for canada and think....hey, nice upgrade for sid.

trujaysfan
02-16-2014, 11:12 AM
So the guy we brought because of his chemistry with Crosby is now off of his wing and has been replaced by the guy we brought last time(and was so bad he was vitrually unplayable for the entire tournament) because he had chemistry with crosby replaces him?

Wow we really like to outsmart everyone

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 11:13 AM
Bergeron has been one of the better players so far.

Jeremy
02-16-2014, 11:14 AM
Time for Canada to get some shine!

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 11:24 AM
Jarrko immonen will start on Finland's top line with the loss of Barkov.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 11:25 AM
Finland takes it 12-1

zeke
02-16-2014, 11:52 AM
gonna have to watch out for Finland's aggresive Dmen.


hoping that the Getzlaf line gets really untracked this game.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 11:55 AM
Quick pace to the game so far

Killer93
02-16-2014, 11:57 AM
Bergeron hurt

zeke
02-16-2014, 11:57 AM
Finland certainly doesn't look intimidated out there.

and once again, Canada islooking like the 2nd fastest team out there.....but still the more dangerous team.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 11:58 AM
GOAL!

zeke
02-16-2014, 11:58 AM
that can't be a goal. would be a shame if that counted.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 11:59 AM
He never touched the puck when he hit the net with his stick

Killer93
02-16-2014, 11:59 AM
Rask is such a little pansy bitch

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 11:59 AM
I don't think it touched his stick.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 12:00 PM
No goal...

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:03 PM
Rask looks good.

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:05 PM
Wake up, Sid.

is he the least fun to watch greatest player ever?

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 12:06 PM
Did anyone else just laugh when they saw that it was Komarov that ran over Carey Price?

CRL
02-16-2014, 12:08 PM
Did anyone else just laugh when they saw that it was Komarov that ran over Carey Price?

LOL me 2

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 12:08 PM
Wake up, Sid.

is he the least fun to watch greatest player ever?
He certainly has been at the Olympics so far in his career.

If he isn't the guy that puts in the "Golden Goal" in Vancouver, then he's got an "Olympic bust" label slapped on him.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 12:09 PM
LOL me 2
Hehe. Before I saw it was Komarov, I was thinking "Who's that ******* that just filled-in our goalie? Someone better give him a shot."

Then he got up and I saw it was Komarov, and I just laughed.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 12:12 PM
Man, our defense is really driving the offense on this team.

1-0 from Doughty!

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:13 PM
assists?

trujaysfan
02-16-2014, 12:14 PM
I said to my brother "man i miss that little guy" with regards to Komarov

BeLeafer
02-16-2014, 12:14 PM
Rask not so hot there.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 12:14 PM
assists?

Carter and Crosby I think.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 12:15 PM
That was a dirty save.

hairnova
02-16-2014, 12:15 PM
assists?

Weber and Crosby.

Deckie007
02-16-2014, 12:16 PM
Doughty is such a stud.

SundinsTooth
02-16-2014, 12:17 PM
Fun to hear Healy get cut off mid sentence 8 minutes ago...haven't heard a peep from him since.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 12:17 PM
Toews almost got one from his stomach.

BeLeafer
02-16-2014, 12:17 PM
Kunitz shot it right into his glove and doofus is going on about it being an "acrobatic" save. Rask literally did not move his glove hand.

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:19 PM
man those finnish jerseys are beauties.

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:20 PM
https://twitpic.com/show/full/dvrsxa

I think Selanne is saying "That Crosby kid is a ****ing joke!"

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 12:21 PM
Fun to hear Healy get cut off mid sentence 8 minutes ago...haven't heard a peep from him since.
Healy's mike has cut off a couple of times so far in this tournament.

Wish they could do that back in Canada too.

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:22 PM
well Canada's offense hasn't clicked so far this tourney but they've been pretty dominant defensively at least.

hairnova
02-16-2014, 12:23 PM
BWildeCTV: The inside track for Canada's flag bearer is now the guy who ruined Healy's microphone.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 12:26 PM
Hahahaha

Nash and Kunitz have been pretty useless thus far

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:29 PM
Hahahaha

Nash and Kunitz have been pretty useless thus far

its so annoying about how many 2nd tier wingers we brought.

I get upset at the lineups but then I realize I'm complaining about jeff carter being used on a line instead of patrick sharp....and I realize I'm just being dumb, because there's no difference between them.

blacksheep
02-16-2014, 12:30 PM
Healy's mike has cut off a couple of times so far in this tournament.

Wish they could do that back in Canada too.

Yeah... permanently.

mbow30
02-16-2014, 12:31 PM
the wraparound went in. you can see the black puck contrasted to rask's white jersey in the net. they missed that.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 12:32 PM
Don Cherry was just complaining that we didn't bring enough "fourth line plumbers".

Christ.

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 12:34 PM
LOL. Don is wearing a normal suit. Russia would not allow him to bring his fruity suits.

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 12:35 PM
Don Cherry was just complaining that we didn't bring enough "fourth line plumbers".

Christ.

Because bringing Rob Zamuner was brilliant.

BeLeafer
02-16-2014, 12:35 PM
lol, what a contrast. they pan the finnish fans and they're almost entirely fit and quite attractive ... then, canadian fans ... rows of obesity.

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:38 PM
its so annoying about how many 2nd tier wingers we brought.

I get upset at the lineups but then I realize I'm complaining about jeff carter being used on a line instead of patrick sharp....and I realize I'm just being dumb, because there's no difference between them.

though now that I think of it, you're right that Nash and Kunitz have been particularly useless.

Nash never deserved to be on this team at all. not even close.

at least Kunitz I can understand for the chemistry possibility, even if I disagree with it.

Nash, though - slow, completely one dimensional, and not all that good in that one dimension.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 12:39 PM
Should have traded Kessel for Nash! But we need to add to balance it out so throw in that bum Kadri!

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 12:39 PM
The wingers do suck. Feels very 06' Turnish. Guys that are not playing particularly well brought along.

blacksheep
02-16-2014, 12:39 PM
Good. Heals is still having problems.

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 12:40 PM
Should have traded Kessel for Nash! But we need to add to balance it out so throw in that bum Kadri!

I will never forget the media's rim jobs of Nash when he asked for a trade. Kessel's not half the player he is!

Where the **** did this myth begin that Nash is this amazing "All Around" player?

Killer93
02-16-2014, 12:40 PM
nooooo his mic works

BeLeafer
02-16-2014, 12:52 PM
Finns doing a good job of making this a dead boring game.

ForeverTML
02-16-2014, 12:52 PM
Holy shit, I am really not in the know. I didnt realize that Julien, Hitch, Ruff are assistants to Babc0ck. Thats some impressive coaches behind the bench.

zeke
02-16-2014, 12:59 PM
this game is textbook "dominant possession does not equal dominant scoring chances".

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:00 PM
canada could really use a phil kessel.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:01 PM
:sleepey:

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:06 PM
two passes on the perimeter = "a little razzle dazzle", according to hughson.

voyager
02-16-2014, 01:09 PM
two passes on the perimeter = "a little razzle dazzle", according to hughson.

The Jim hughson sound board only has so many phrases. One of the many problems that EA never fixed...

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:09 PM
That was inevitable.

CH1
02-16-2014, 01:09 PM
That was inevitable.

yep

very predictable

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 01:10 PM
Why is Vlasic on this team?

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:10 PM
tie game.

entirely unshocked.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:10 PM
Need moar 2nd tier wingers who can't create their own offence.

Finns have played a text book collapse around the net game on us, and were hoping for a dirty goal...well there it is.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:11 PM
Why is Vlasic on this team?

you stumped me.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:11 PM
Why is Vlasic on this team?

Same reason Kunitz, Carter, Nash, etc are.

Btw...how ****ing good would Taylor Hall look on big ice? How about Seguin?

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:12 PM
How about PK Subban?

hockeylover
02-16-2014, 01:12 PM
But what about the Corsi!?

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:12 PM
Dump and Chase hockey with a $150m roster.

BeLeafer
02-16-2014, 01:12 PM
Canadians maybe had two good scoring chances in that period.

CRL
02-16-2014, 01:12 PM
how about Claude Giroux?

Habspatrol
02-16-2014, 01:13 PM
Why is Vlasic on this team?

Because he's left ****ing handed... seriously... like that is the most important thing.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:13 PM
What a ****ing joke thus far

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 01:14 PM
Defensive play has become so ****ing overrated nowadays. Taylor Hall doesn't play good enough defense? LOL. We have to score goals. It's the big ice.

Canada always shoots itself in the foot.

Habspatrol
02-16-2014, 01:14 PM
How about PK Subban?

Why? We have game breakers like Hamhuis and Vlasic!!!!

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 01:15 PM
How about:

Phaneuf - Subban

Instead of:

Vlasic - Hamuis

CH1
02-16-2014, 01:16 PM
Every forward looks like a fuc king passenger.

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 01:16 PM
Play the most talented. End of story.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 01:16 PM
This hockey is so terrible it's barely watchable. The Finns stack four guys in front of the net and that's all that's happened for almost 40 minutes.

Watching bobsled and ice dancing now instead.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:17 PM
Same reason Kunitz, Carter, Nash, etc are.

Btw...how ****ing good would Taylor Hall look on big ice? How about Seguin?

Taylor Hall and Marty St.Louis can't dump and chase well enough to make this squad.

trujaysfan
02-16-2014, 01:17 PM
How about:

Phaneuf - Subban

Instead of:

Vlasic - Hamuis

BECAUSE THIS IS CANADA AND WE ARE TOO SMART FOR THAT!!!!!!!!

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:18 PM
Team needs players like Hall, Giroux, Staal, St Louis etc. Would Subban and Phaneuf over Hamhuis and Vlasic as well

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 01:20 PM
Phaneuf wouldn't make a Team Canada B squad I'm told.

ForeverTML
02-16-2014, 01:21 PM
Vlasic >>

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 01:23 PM
"Protecting Leads" "Not Making Defensive Mistakes". This apparently is the priority over actually scoring a goal.

I've never seen a time where it's tougher to score a 5 on 5 goal, yet all we talk about is defensive play.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:24 PM
Kunitz, Sharp, Carter, Bergeron, Nash, Benn, Marleau, Vlasic, Hamhuis.....

....they should call this Team Sidekick, or Team Complimentary Player.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:24 PM
We should be blowing teams away with 4 lines of elite offensive talent rammed down their throat for 60 minutes.

We should be sending the most talent laden team on the planet, by a wide margin, with a modified version of this as our logo

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLCI1qcR1pf7w6BQVijkiHbc7f29HKy Fvayz3q1ebuNqGvkvJv

ToanVu
02-16-2014, 01:24 PM
This hockey is so terrible it's barely watchable. The Finns stack four guys in front of the net and that's all that's happened for almost 40 minutes.


So does Canada, btw.

Habspatrol
02-16-2014, 01:25 PM
They run the risk of Subban making an exciting play... can't have that.

ToanVu
02-16-2014, 01:26 PM
If only we had Sidney Crosby on this team instead of Jeff Carter, we'd be unstoppable!

JackBurton
02-16-2014, 01:26 PM
We should be blowing teams away with 4 lines of elite offensive talent rammed down their throat for 60 minutes.

We should be sending the most talent laden team on the planet, by a wide margin, with a modified version of this as our logo

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLCI1qcR1pf7w6BQVijkiHbc7f29HKy Fvayz3q1ebuNqGvkvJv

Of course Elite offensive talent should be by far the priority but it never is.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:27 PM
I'm not worried yet. Once Canada adds Sidney Crosby in the medal round we'll be unstoppable!

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:27 PM
They run the risk of Subban making an exciting play... can't have that.

Wouldn't want the other team getting engaged in the game, would ya?

I said it a few months ago...this is my team canada blue line

Keith-AP
JBo-Weber
Phaneuf-Subban
Seabrook

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:28 PM
I'm not worried yet. Once Canada adds Sidney Crosby in the medal round we'll be unstoppable!

Easiest way to free him up would be to take that Tavares kid wasting away on the 4th line (you've maybe heard of him, 2nd in the NHL in scoring?) and put him on Crosby's wing.

axlsalinger
02-16-2014, 01:29 PM
More whiny bitches here than on a Miley Cyrus board.

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:30 PM
This hockey is so terrible it's barely watchable. The Finns stack four guys in front of the net and that's all that's happened for almost 40 minutes.

Watching bobsled and ice dancing now instead.

seriously?

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:31 PM
the sharks superstars both blew it on the goal against.

canada's spent most of hte game deep in the finish zone. i'd give nash and perry some more ice. those guys are the only ones who conssitently drive tot he net.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 01:32 PM
seriously?

When the teams decide they want to try and score rather than engaging in the Battle of Stalingrad, I'll watch.

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:34 PM
how will you know if you aren't watching?

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:35 PM
marleau looks out of place. he's slow and doesn't bring much outside of his ability to finish.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 01:35 PM
Why subject one's self to meaningless torture on the off chance it will stop suddenly?

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:36 PM
This one is going to a shootout

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:36 PM
watching hockey is meaningless torture?

Habspatrol
02-16-2014, 01:37 PM
Why subject one's self to meaningless torture on the off chance it will stop suddenly?

Cause it's Team Canada in the Olympics.

SundinsTooth
02-16-2014, 01:38 PM
Jays is being contrarian. Let him enjoy his ice dancing.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:39 PM
Why subject one's self to meaningless torture on the off chance it will stop suddenly?

Yep, watching Ice-Dancing, a sport that is fixed, is the way forward!

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:39 PM
Might be the gayest thing I've ever heard on this forum, and we have an admitted power bottom as a poster.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:40 PM
I swear to god the only offensive play the canadians seem to be able to do is attempted wrap arounds.

and Pietrangelo and Bouwmeester simply don't look very good. their stocks are taking a big hit so far this tourney.

SundinsTooth
02-16-2014, 01:40 PM
Cmon guys, ice dancing is a real sport.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:41 PM
I know its been mentioned but I agree on Marleau, he has been useless as well. Wish they took Couture or Big Joe

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:41 PM
marleau/kunitz/carter/nash/sharp looks out of place. he's slow and doesn't bring much outside of his ability to finish.

fyp

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:41 PM
Jeff Carter isn't a good hockey player at this level.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:42 PM
Jays is being his homosexual self. Let him enjoy his ice dancing.

fyp

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:42 PM
carter nash and kunitz aren't slow

Leafin'
02-16-2014, 01:43 PM
Quietly hoping the fins win this game, the Canadians have not played a good game at all.

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:43 PM
Jeff Carter isn't a good hockey player at this level.

he's ok. i don't know why you take him over hall, but he has speed, can protect the puck and get to the net.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:43 PM
The good news is, surely St. Louis gets back in for the 'real' games.

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:43 PM
Quietly hoping the fins win this game, the Canadians have not played a good game at all.

ya, hope canada loses. that makes sense.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:44 PM
Hughson: "Canada turns it back up ice in a hurry"


....3 finns beat canada back, and sharp wrists a shot from the sideboards into the stands.

canada is slow.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:44 PM
Imagine a line of JVR - Crosby - Kessel

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:45 PM
to steal a perfectly insightful line from HF......

..... "This team is so overcoached"

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:47 PM
Rick Nash is useless...and fat.

mbow30
02-16-2014, 01:48 PM
marleau has no burst. he had a clear step there. especailly with all that extra space on the outside. settling on a bad angled wrist shot is brutal

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:49 PM
carter nash and kunitz aren't slow

they really are.

you're remembering them as younger players. they are average nhl speedwise...which is slow at the olympic level.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:49 PM
Want to see Tavares with Crosby

Leafin'
02-16-2014, 01:49 PM
ya, hope canada loses. that makes sense.

Nothing against you, but unless its the Leafs, i can give a shit about who wins a hockey game. Im not patriotic enough to give a shit about Canada winning a Gold Medal in anything.

The fact that Team Canada has no one from my favourite hockey team is yet another reason i can care less.

The Fins, who are a heavy underdog, have played a pretty good game considering.

Boo-F*CKINg-hoo if Canada loses.

Jeremy
02-16-2014, 01:51 PM
Gonna be a good Finnish

SundinsTooth
02-16-2014, 01:51 PM
God, everyone group has to have one.

axlsalinger
02-16-2014, 01:51 PM
To change the subject from the obvious fact that all our players suck and all our coaches suck for a second, Finland is actually playing a very smart game here.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:52 PM
Getzlaf has created a chance a shift, by far Canada's best player.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:52 PM
Kunitz on for final minute, **** this

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:53 PM
hah....best chance of the game....and the puck goes to.....MARC EDUARD VLASIC!!!!

hilarious.

why is this guy on Team Canada? and playing the last minute?

ridiculous.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:53 PM
Heh.

Last minute of a tied game...and who is not only on the ice, but gets the best chance of the game for Canada?

Marc Edward Pickles

Yep, can't make this shit up kids.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:54 PM
To change the subject from the obvious fact that all our players suck and all our coaches suck for a second, Finland is actually playing a very smart game here.

they are playing fantastic.

but that's still no excuse - that roster is mostly non-nhl talent, and this is supposed to be the best team in the universe.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:55 PM
I honestly think that Canada was unable to create even ONE scoring chance off the rush this game.

Literally not even ONE.

I can't remember a single scoring chance off the rush.

CH1
02-16-2014, 01:55 PM
I'm throwing all my pickles in the garbage.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 01:56 PM
This is why you don't bring plugs...or dress them in the last minute of a tied game.

Please send out Crosby-Tavares, Getzlaf-Perry and Duchene-Toews almost exclusively in this OT.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:56 PM
I honestly think that Canada was unable to create even ONE scoring chance off the rush this game.

Literally not even ONE.

I can't remember a single scoring chance off the rush

They haven't tried to create chances off the rush though. It's all chip and chase.

Killer93
02-16-2014, 01:56 PM
Since were throwing around criticism; when does Crosby get his?

hockeylover
02-16-2014, 01:56 PM
gary lawless ‏@garylawless now

Canada's quarterfinal options are now the winner of Russia-Norway or winner of Latvia-Switzerland

Yikes. Potentially Canada Russia in the quarterfinal? This could all be over quickly.

zeke
02-16-2014, 01:57 PM
and P.S. - the big ice sucks.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:57 PM
I honestly think that Canada was unable to create even ONE scoring chance off the rush this game.

Literally not even ONE.

I can't remember a single scoring chance off the rush.

It's not like the Finns aren't engaging in the forecheck either. Canada has just been meh in transition, mainly due to a lack of elite footspeed imo.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 01:58 PM
gary lawless ‏@garylawless now

Canada's quarterfinal options are now the winner of Russia-Norway or winner of Latvia-Switzerland

Yikes. Potentially Canada Russia in the quarterfinal? This could all be over quickly.
If we play Russia in the quarter-finals, it'll be over quickly. For Russia.

Still, ideally we earn a soft opponent in the quarters.

hockeylover
02-16-2014, 01:58 PM
I wish Kessel was Canadian.

CH1
02-16-2014, 01:58 PM
4 on 4 should give us a big lift

Leafin'
02-16-2014, 01:58 PM
I like the big ice. Not for the Canadians, but overall the hockey that has been played in this tournament has been fantastic.

the USA - Russia game was great.

hockeylover
02-16-2014, 01:59 PM
If we play Russia in the quarter-finals, it'll be over quickly. For Russia.

Still, ideally we earn a soft opponent in the quarters.

Perhaps. Are you sure of that with the way we look right now? I'm not.

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 01:59 PM
The Russians have looked every bit as bad, probably worse actually.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 01:59 PM
Since were throwing around criticism; when does Crosby get his?

When he gets better wingers than Kunitz-Carter, or Benn-Bergeron and still looks like this.

I agree with Zeke though, of all the generational talents we've ever seen, he's the worst "gamebreaker" of the bunch. For example, Crosby is a better hockey player than Ovechkin, by a pretty wide margin, but that ****er just needs one touch of the puck to change a game in a hurry. Crosby is the guy you want when you're trying to win the battle of stalingrad though.

Leafin'
02-16-2014, 02:00 PM
I thought Benn was hospital bound after that hit... holayyy

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Perhaps. Are you sure of that with the way we look right now? I'm not.
The Russians have looked awful, and they're not capable of playing this shut-down Finland/Switzerland style that stymies us.

They wouldn't stand a chance.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!

hockeylover
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Thank God for Doughty.

Leafin'
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Nice goal for Doughty.

zeke
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
shoulda been a penalty on tavares there.

mbow30
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
pretty sure that was all carter's speed through the neutral zone.

CH1
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
thank god for dd

Killer93
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Doughty! Give him the C

axlsalinger
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
GOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Doughty is a beast at the Olympics. Our best player in 2010 too!

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Bag of Doughnuts!

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 02:01 PM
DOUGHNUTS!!!

TimHorton
02-16-2014, 02:02 PM
Tukka should have had both

CH1
02-16-2014, 02:02 PM
special mention to Tukka

hockeylover
02-16-2014, 02:03 PM
The Russians have looked awful, and they're not capable of playing this shut-down Finland/Switzerland style that stymies us.

They wouldn't stand a chance.

Luckily we don't have to find out and they get the tougher matchup in the quarters.

axlsalinger
02-16-2014, 02:03 PM
Never in doubt. :)

zeke
02-16-2014, 02:04 PM
nice to see Stevie Y wasn't happy at all with that performance there.

because this was not a good game.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 02:04 PM
Good Irish lad saves Team Canada yet again. Well done Drew.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 02:04 PM
nice to see Stevie Y wasn't happy at all with that performance there.

because this was not a good game.

He looked pissed, lol. Never seen him so stone-faced.

hockeylover
02-16-2014, 02:05 PM
So we can't face USA in the Finals now, only the Semis. That will be huge.

ToanVu
02-16-2014, 02:05 PM
Great play by Carter. He was a total beast in this game.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 02:05 PM
I wish Kessel was Canadian.

You kidding? Team Canada would have left Kessel at home.

LeafGm
02-16-2014, 02:05 PM
Hopefully they can manage to learn some lessons from this game and play better the next time they face this kind of hockey.

Jeremy
02-16-2014, 02:05 PM
**** yeah!

CH1
02-16-2014, 02:06 PM
Tuukka got a star. Whaaat?

Leafin'
02-16-2014, 02:06 PM
You kidding? Team Canada would have left Kessel at home.

THis.

CH1
02-16-2014, 02:08 PM
So we can't face USA in the Finals now, only the Semis. That will be huge.

Putin's dream of RUS-CAN final is alive.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 02:09 PM
Get ready to suffer through another slog fest with Switzerland.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 02:12 PM
Switzerland terrifies me. They always are a ridiculous difficult opponent for Canada.

CH1
02-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Switzerland terrifies me. They always are a ridiculous difficult opponent for Canada.

Fine but if Canada can't beat them they deserve to go home empty handed.

BeLeafer
02-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Carter has been playing great - best winger on Team Canada this tournament.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Switzerland terrifies me. They always are a ridiculous difficult opponent for Canada.

Canada just had a solid preview of what to expect and the Swiss have 2 goals and Hiller isn't Rask.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 02:18 PM
QF1 Sweden vs Slovenia/Austria
QF2 USA vs Czech Republic/Slovakia
QF3 Canada vs Switzerland/Latvia
QF4 Finland vs Russia/Norway

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 02:20 PM
Sweden and Canada with the easier roads to the medal rounds.

axlsalinger
02-16-2014, 02:21 PM
Time to join JaysCyYoung and watch some of his beloved ice dancing.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 02:23 PM
If Latvia can score three goals the Swiss won't be able to get that back.

MindzEye
02-16-2014, 02:23 PM
Time to join JaysCyYoung and watch some of his beloved ice dancing.

I hear he puts out.

hairnova
02-16-2014, 02:24 PM
If Latvia can score three goals the Swiss won't be able to get that back.

Haha, yeah, Switzerland has played three 1-0 games.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 02:25 PM
Time to join JaysCyYoung and watch some of his beloved ice dancing.

Was watching bobsled and listening to a podcast, brah.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 02:25 PM
Swiss have gotten better on the world stage, but they still can't score even with Neiderreiter.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 02:26 PM
The Swiss used the same style to get all the way to the gold medal game against Sweden at the Worlds last year. They're not pushovers.

Bleedsblue&white
02-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Was watching bobsled and listening to a podcast, brah.

So....PVR ice-dancing?

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Worlds isn't the same as the Olympics. Canada's seen this trap style for 3 games now.

JaysCyYoung
02-16-2014, 02:40 PM
This is a rather encouraging statistic:

@HalfordPHT: Finland had seven shots on goal over the final 42:32 of the game. Seven.

JohnnyHolmes
02-16-2014, 02:44 PM
Switzerland terrifies me. They always are a ridiculous difficult opponent for Canada.

Well a Canadian started their program, and their rosters have historically been littered with "Swiss" guys like Hnat Domenichelli, Paul DiPietro, and currently Ryan Gardner. A couple of them played in the CHL, quite a few are legit NHL'ers.

I haven't gone through the roster, but I would suspect that there are at least a few of them with Canadian fathers that played in the Swiss league.

It's not a real big surprise that they are a tough team for Canada.

They've really grown a respectable program over there.

zeke
02-16-2014, 02:46 PM
This is a rather encouraging statistic:

@HalfordPHT: Finland had seven shots on goal over the final 42:32 of the game. Seven.

27-14 shots with the Finns sitting back all 3rd period (and missing their top-4 centers) is not the domination that people are trying to make it out to be.

zeke
02-16-2014, 02:55 PM
C R.Getzlaf 3gms, 1gls, 3pts
W J.Carter 3gms, 3gls, 4pts
W P.Marleau 3gms, 0gls, 4pts

C S.Crosby 3gms, 0gls, 2pts
W P.Bergeron 3gms, 0gls, 2pts
W J.Benn 3gms, 1gls, 1pts

C J.Toews 3gms, 0gls, 1pts
W C.Perry 3gms, 0gls, 1pts
W M.St.Louis 2gms, 0gls, 0pts

C J.Tavares 3gms, 0gls, 0pts
W M.Duchene 2gms, 0gls, 0pts
W P.Sharp 2gms, 0gls, 0pts

W R.Nash 3gms, 0gls, 0pts
W C.Kunitz 3gms, 0gls, 0pts


D D.Doughty 3gms, 4gls, 5pts
D S.Weber 3gms, 2gls, 4pts

D D.Keith 3gms, 0gls, 1pts
D A.Pietro 3gms, 0gls, 1pts

D P.Subban 2gms, 0gls, 0pts
D D.Hamhuis 2gms, 0gls, 0pts

D J.Bouw 3gms, 0gls, 0pts
D M.Vlasic 3gms, 0gls, 0pts


G R.Luongo 1gms, 1.000sv%
G C.Price 2gms, .943sv%

leafman101
02-16-2014, 04:19 PM
I like the big ice. Not for the Canadians, but overall the hockey that has been played in this tournament has been fantastic.



The big ice sucks. What we saw today is how everyone plays on the big ice. Sit back, and sit back, and sit back somemore. Way too much ice to be aggressive. It is a much worse, less entertaining, less physical style of the game.

Metalleaf
02-16-2014, 04:21 PM
If you love 1995 NJ devils style hockey you love this tournament so far.

leafman101
02-16-2014, 04:21 PM
Lots of negativity around here. Its like reading the Toronto media talk about the Leafs.

Anyone expecting an offensive explosion with a ton of chances against the Fins, on the big ice, it was never going to happen. This is their bread and butter. All you had to do was watch any international Finnish hockey game at any level over the last 10 years to know that this wouldn't be a game with a lot of chances. The Finns are always a good team, with great goaltending that is a legit medal contender from playing this kind of hockey.

Canada played well though. They had the puck the whole game and corsi'd the shit out of them. They had two legit goals called back. And most importantly they won.

But it only gets harder from here. Canada/US semi final will be a great game.

Habspatrol
02-16-2014, 05:02 PM
C R.Getzlaf 3gms, 1gls, 3pts
W J.Carter 3gms, 3gls, 4pts
W P.Marleau 3gms, 0gls, 4pts

C S.Crosby 3gms, 0gls, 2pts
W P.Bergeron 3gms, 0gls, 2pts
W J.Benn 3gms, 1gls, 1pts

C J.Toews 3gms, 0gls, 1pts
W C.Perry 3gms, 0gls, 1pts
W M.St.Louis 2gms, 0gls, 0pts

C J.Tavares 3gms, 0gls, 0pts
W M.Duchene 2gms, 0gls, 0pts
W P.Sharp 2gms, 0gls, 0pts

W R.Nash 3gms, 0gls, 0pts
W C.Kunitz 3gms, 0gls, 0pts


D D.Doughty 3gms, 4gls, 5pts
D S.Weber 3gms, 2gls, 4pts

D D.Keith 3gms, 0gls, 1pts
D A.Pietro 3gms, 0gls, 1pts

D P.Subban 2gms, 0gls, 0pts
D D.Hamhuis 2gms, 0gls, 0pts

D J.Bouw 3gms, 0gls, 0pts
D M.Vlasic 3gms, 0gls, 0pts


G R.Luongo 1gms, 1.000sv%
G C.Price 2gms, .943sv%
Not that it matters but Subban has only played one game.

zeke
02-16-2014, 05:27 PM
Negative? I don't get it - are we supposed to be happy about that performance? We played a 2nd tier team missing its top 4 centers, made up mostly non nhlers and only one nhler in his prime, and we were barely able to force rask into making more than a small handful of tough saves. Even the two goals were very stoppable.

We're supposed to be content with this?

This is not two capped nhl teams battling it out in a regular season game.

zeke
02-16-2014, 06:19 PM
C J.Toews 3gms, 0gls, 1pts, +2, 4sog, 16:52
W P.Marleau 3gms, 0gls, 4pts, +3, 7sog, 15:13
W C.Perry 3gms, 0gls, 1pts, +2, 6sog, 14:18

C S.Crosby 3gms, 0gls, 2pts, +2, 5sog, 15:43
W J.Carter 3gms, 3gls, 4pts, +5, 11sog, 13:50
W M.Duchene 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, +1, 4sog, 13:50

C R.Getzlaf 3gms, 1gls, 3pts, +3, 5sog, 13:36
W P.Bergeron 3gms, 0gls, 2pts, +2, 5sog, 13:13
W C.Kunitz 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 4sog, +0, 12:25

C J.Tavares 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 5sog, +2, 12:31
W J.Benn 3gms, 1gls, 1pts, 7sog, +1, 12:14
W P.Sharp 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0sog, +1, 12:04

W M.St.Louis 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, 5sog, +1, 11:52
W R.Nash 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 7sog, +1, 10:05



D S.Weber 3gms, 2gls, 4pts, +3, 5sog, 21:00
D D.Keith 3gms, 0gls, 1pts, +4, 7sog, 21:00

D A.Pietro 3gms, 0gls, 1pts, +3, 7sog, 18:45
D D.Doughty 3gms, 4gls, 5pts, +3, 8sog, 18:00

D J.Bouw 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, +2, 4sog, 17:27
D M.Vlasic 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, +2, 3sog, 15:13

D P.Subban 1gms, 0gls, 0pts, +0, 0sog, 11:41
D D.Hamhuis 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, +1, 2sog, 6:55



G R.Luongo 1gms, 1.000sv%
G C.Price 2gms, .943sv%

PKForce81
02-16-2014, 06:20 PM
Negative? I don't get it - are we supposed to be happy about that performance? We played a 2nd tier team missing its top 4 centers, made up mostly non nhlers and only one nhler in his prime, and we were barely able to force rask into making more than a small handful of tough saves. Even the two goals were very stoppable.

We're supposed to be content with this?

This is not two capped nhl teams battling it out in a regular season game.

Totally agree zeke. I watched USA play and the difference is huge. Canadian team isn't showing very much in terms of speed and skill and are mostly dumping in the puck and cycling(getting weak shots when they do get a chance)...I'll say it right now, if USA and Canada meet and they keep playing like they have in these 3 games, USA will take it and by a 2-3 goal margin. Thrill will show them how it's done...and wtf is happening with Crosby? Is he even playing? Never liked Babcock and he's showing again how bad a coach he is..Just possession crap that leads to nothing..These are top NHL players(even though in these 3 games they didn't play a top notch team) so working down low just isn't that effective no matter how good you are. As long as the other team's players stay in good position it's not hard to defend against it.

Habsy
02-17-2014, 03:36 PM
canada could really use a phil kessel.

Team Canada would find a reason to not select him to the team. He's too fast and scores too much. There must be someone older, slower and liked by the coaches more.

Habsy
02-17-2014, 03:37 PM
Why is Vlasic on this team?

Really. It's Tuomo ****ing Ruutu, you can't move him from the front of the net? Weakling.

Habsy
02-17-2014, 03:38 PM
How about:

Phaneuf - Subban

Instead of:

Vlasic - Hamuis

Give that man a cigar!

Habsy
02-17-2014, 03:39 PM
The US team is going to run Canada out of the building. Younger, faster, and playing as a team already.

hockeylover
02-17-2014, 03:43 PM
Team Canada would find a reason to not select him to the team. He's too fast and scores too much. There must be someone older, slower and liked by the coaches more.

Heh. Probably true.

hockeylover
02-17-2014, 03:43 PM
The US team is going to run Canada out of the building. Younger, faster, and playing as a team already.

I feel that way too.

leaffan2005
02-17-2014, 03:47 PM
Canada hasn't started trying yet. No need to get your panties in a knot folks.

Habsy
02-17-2014, 03:48 PM
Have you watched the US games? Impressive.

MindzEye
02-17-2014, 03:51 PM
Team Canada would find a reason to not select him to the team. He's too fast and scores too much. There must be someone older, slower and liked by the coaches more.

Yep, think of all those defensive board battles he's not winning while he's being dangerous in the offensive zone with the puck.

The horror.

leaffan2005
02-17-2014, 04:27 PM
Have you watched the US games? Impressive.

They looked impressive in Vancouver as well. Until they faced Canada and suddenly looked mortal again.

hockeylover
02-17-2014, 04:33 PM
They looked impressive in Vancouver as well. Until they faced Canada and suddenly looked mortal again.

I don't get the cockiness here though. It went to OT - we're not untouchable.

leafman101
02-17-2014, 04:36 PM
The US look good. Russia played an even game with them. Sweden and Finland might be in tough due to injuries, but both have also looked really good. Canada is undefeated and has looked good too.

It should be some great hockey this week.

zeke
02-17-2014, 04:42 PM
Canada should still win, but the style they are playing will mean all the games will be close, and that all our opponents will have a chance at upsetting us with a bit of luck.

CTheBigPicture
02-17-2014, 05:19 PM
Let's not forget that Canada is missing their top game breaker in Stamkos

Habspatrol
02-17-2014, 05:42 PM
We're also missing one of our most dynamic dmen.

Hopefully Babcock realizes this and puts him in.

Metalleaf
02-17-2014, 05:44 PM
Babcock probably thinks Subban needs more time in Grand Rapids.

blacksheep
02-17-2014, 05:46 PM
It is rather unconscionable that Subban is not on this team.

leaffan2005
02-17-2014, 07:31 PM
I don't get the cockiness here though. It went to OT - we're not untouchable.

Never said we were. But the bickering re: the selection of the Canadian roster/line-up and constant praise thrown towards the Americans thus far has been a tad bit nauseating. At the end of the day we are still the heavy favourites to win this tournament.

MindzEye
02-17-2014, 07:33 PM
Never said we were. But the bickering re: the selection of the Canadian roster/line-up and constant praise thrown towards the Americans thus far has been a tad bit nauseating. At the end of the day we are still the heavy favourites to win this tournament.

Not after seeing the performances to date we're not. The Americans have sadly been the best team in the tournament so far.

LeafOfFaith
02-17-2014, 07:35 PM
Kessel and JVR >>>

leaffan2005
02-17-2014, 07:36 PM
Both teams have faced 1 challenge thus far (USA with Russia, Canada with Finland) and both teams were taken to OT and prevailed. Two games against bottom dwellers is hardly a sample size worthy of causing a hissy fit. I expect both teams to get better as the tournament goes along, but the Americans really can't match the talent we have up and down our line-up. When the chips are down, talent usually beats team "chemistry".

zeke
02-17-2014, 08:04 PM
Who on finland compares to malkin datsyuk ovechkin kovalchuk?

leaffan2005
02-17-2014, 08:25 PM
Who on finland compares to malkin datsyuk ovechkin kovalchuk?

Russia has struggled a lot more than Canada has thus far in the tournament. It can be argued that the Fins provide a tougher test for Canada compared to that laughable back-end iced by the Ruskies.

zeke
02-17-2014, 08:32 PM
C Malkin ------- C O.Jokinen
W Ovechkin ---- W Selanne
W kovalchuk ---- W J.Jokinen

C Datsyuk ------ C Granlund
W Semin ------- W Ruutu
W Radulov ----- W Kontiola

C Anisimov ----- C Salminen
W Tarasenko --- W Korpikoski
W Kulemin ------ W Komarov

C Tereshenko ----- C Imonen
W Nichushkin ----- W pihlstrom
W Popov ---------- W aaltonen


D Markov ------ D Timonen
D Voynov ------ D Vatanen

D Tyutin ------- D Salo
D Emelin ------- D Lepisto

D Belov ----+---- D Maatta
D Medvedev ---- D Hietanen

D Nikulin ------- D Vatanen
D Nikitin -------- D Kukkonin


G Bobrovsky ------- G Rask

Habspatrol
02-17-2014, 08:43 PM
But Finland has been stronger in this tourney than the Russians. If you're going to rank them based on lineups then we may as well line up the Canadians and Americans and say that Canada is better... but we're looking at how they've actually played, not how they look on paper.

The US has been a bit more impressive than Canada thus far but it's not a massive difference. Canada hasn't dominated in the fashion they should have but I'm not too concerned yet. They've been too conservative for my liking though.

mbow30
02-17-2014, 08:52 PM
Who on finland compares to malkin datsyuk ovechkin kovalchuk?

finland has never had a superstar roster, but have fared very well at the olympics since nhl'ers started competing. they have medaled in 3 of the 4 games since 98.

Habspatrol
02-17-2014, 08:56 PM
I suppose you could argue that Rask compares to those guys... and a goalie can be the great equalizer.

leafman101
02-17-2014, 09:07 PM
On paper Finland doesn't compare to the fire power other teams have. But you can't deny they are good at what they do and play some of the toughest defense in international hockey. Especially on the big ice.

Its won them medals at every level despite not having that talent.

Volcanologist
02-17-2014, 09:07 PM
I'd rather have Rask than the guys Canada has, all told.

zeke
02-17-2014, 09:22 PM
finland has never had a superstar roster, but have fared very well at the olympics since nhl'ers started competing. they have medaled in 3 of the 4 games since 98.

Well, this year time they don't have m.koivu, s.koivu, lehtonen, filppula, barkov, numminen, hagman, leino, lydman, etc......and selanne and timmonen and salo are on their last legs, while jokinen and ruutu are shadows of their former selves.

Last olympics:

Lehtinen 37 - m.koivu 27- selanne 40
T.ruutu 27 - o.jokinen 32 - filppula 26
Hagman 31 - s.koivu 36 - j.ruutu 35
Miettenen 30 - kapanen 32 - peltonen 37
Immonen 28

Pitkanen 27 - timonen 35
Lydman 33 - salo 36
Lepisto 26 - kukkonen 29
Niskala 29

Backstrom 32
Kiprusoff 34
Nittymaki 30


That was a really good team.