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mbow30
03-30-2014, 02:57 PM
Clarkson's 15 point pace over 82 games is the lowest single season ppg by an NHL forward earning $5m or more?

Rumpleforeskin
03-30-2014, 03:08 PM
Some where Clarkson just fell down

corksens
03-30-2014, 03:11 PM
15 point pace.

Unbelievable.

Wayward DP
03-30-2014, 03:23 PM
Gomez?

mbow30
03-30-2014, 03:24 PM
nope. gomez's worst season was a 24 point pace.

mbow30
03-30-2014, 03:25 PM
in drury's final season (limited to 24 games because of injury) he put up a 17 point pace.

mbow30
03-30-2014, 03:25 PM
havlat's worst season is this season's 34 point pace

CH1
03-30-2014, 03:30 PM
I just hope the term Dave Clarkson hat trick takes off: a bodycheck, a shot on goal and a penalty

hockeylover
03-30-2014, 03:33 PM
Gomez?


nope. gomez's worst season was a 24 point pace.

/thread

Montana
03-30-2014, 03:34 PM
I just hope the term Dave Clarkson hat trick takes off: a bodycheck, a shot on goal and a penalty


The David Clarkson hat-trick: have a pass intercepted, fall down, & take a penalty.

hockeylover
03-30-2014, 03:38 PM
The David Clarkson hat-trick: an intercepted pass, falling down, & taking a penalty.

Yeah, that's more like it.

CH1
03-30-2014, 03:44 PM
The David Clarkson hat-trick: an intercepted pass, falling down, & taking a penalty.

Much better.

Leafyblue
03-30-2014, 03:51 PM
all in the same shift.

ForeverTML
03-30-2014, 05:00 PM
Tougher than a gordie howe hat-trick.

Artnes
03-30-2014, 05:25 PM
Regardless of the cap hit how do you not contemplate buying him out this summer

LeafGm
03-30-2014, 05:39 PM
The most common "David Clarkson hat trick" is managing to fall on your ass three times in one shift.

Rumpleforeskin
03-30-2014, 05:49 PM
http://goldandorsmith.com/GIFs/ClarksonElbowedByLinesman.gif

MindzEye
03-30-2014, 05:50 PM
Regardless of the cap hit how do you not contemplate buying him out this summer

You have to contemplate it. The issue is, there's no way that Nonis goes to his boss and tells them that he was so wrong about the prize free agent he signed last year that we have to buyout his contract....and not only was he that wrong about Clarkson, he got ****ing schooled on the structure of the contract to the point that though the team will realize cap savings by buying him out, Clarkson will get ~29 million of the contract whether he gets bought out or not.

I can't think of any way that's not job suicide.

Which is the major reason I want him fired. Clarkson has to be bought out. The buyout math is nearly identical whether we buy him out this summer or next and you can't move forward with him in your top 9 after he proved to be a complete waste of a roster spot all season. Trading Clarkson could be problematic as he also has a ****ing NTC and his attitude is likely going to be that he took a hometown discount and if we want him gone that badly, buy him out. Just fire Nonis and let his replacement deal with it, without having to be concerned about the optics.

zeke
03-30-2014, 05:57 PM
Clarkson is Nonis' cement shoes.

http://simpsonswiki.com/w/images/thumb/1/12/Fat_Tony's_Cement_Shoes.png/250px-Fat_Tony's_Cement_Shoes.png

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FGsynBbalzE/UP5CJ7mHWMI/AAAAAAAAAr8/gdphuvN-SHA/s1600/Cement-Shoes-onebyo.jpg

Habsy
03-30-2014, 09:19 PM
nope. gomez's worst season was a 24 point pace.


in drury's final season (limited to 24 games because of injury) he put up a 17 point pace.

But Gauthier/Gainey gave up McDonagh for Gomez. That in itself makes it one of the worst trades in NHL history.

MindzEye
03-31-2014, 12:22 AM
Clarkson's 15 point pace over 82 games is the lowest single season ppg by an NHL forward earning $5m or more?

Capgeek has salary charts going back a bunch of years. Would be a fair amount of leg work to prove something already know, that he's a waste of money on a historic level, but if you're interested, just go as far back as they have data for.

I'm going to go ahead and say that yes, he is. I'll go further and say that his point pace would rank among the worst 5+ million dollar defenders ever as well.

mbow30
03-31-2014, 12:24 AM
Capgeek has salary charts going back a bunch of years. Would be a fair amount of leg work to prove something already know, that he's a waste of money on a historic level, but if you're interested, just go as far back as they have data for.

I'm going to go ahead and say that yes, he is. I'll go further and say that his point pace would rank among the worst 5+ million dollar defenders ever as well.

i went from the early 90s until 08-09... and yeah, the lowest over that period. but it seems that you can only see top 50 salaries and there are now more than 50 5mn guys.

for context... the only other nearly-as-awful contract i can think of, on a guy who had a shit career then one or two fluke years and cashed in hard, was lapointe's... and even he never had a year (during hte term of that deal) as bad as clarkson's season.

mbow30
03-31-2014, 12:25 AM
But Gauthier/Gainey gave up McDonagh for Gomez. That in itself makes it one of the worst trades in NHL history.

not talking about trades here. just wondering if a player making 5+ mn has ever played at a 15 point pace. the answer seems to be no.

MindzEye
03-31-2014, 12:27 AM
i went from the early 90s until 08-09... and yeah, the lowest over that period. but it seems that you can only see top 50 salaries and there are now more than 50 5mn guys.

for context... the only other nearly-as-awful contract i can think of, on a guy who had a shit career then one or two fluke years and cashed in hard, was lapointe's... and even he never had a year (during hte term of that deal) as bad as clarkson's season.

It really is a contract so bad that it's an instant fire worthy offence imo. Any other industry, if you make that colossal a mistake with 30+ million dollars, you're let go because it's clear that your judgement can't be trusted to make similar decisions in the future. Hoping that Timmy L shares my sentiment.

CH1
03-31-2014, 12:47 AM
What's a 50 game slump between members of the old boys club?

ForeverTML
03-31-2014, 08:44 AM
It really is a contract so bad that it's an instant fire worthy offence imo. Any other industry, if you make that colossal a mistake with 30+ million dollars, you're let go because it's clear that your judgement can't be trusted to make similar decisions in the future. Hoping that Timmy L shares my sentiment.

Well, totally agree. But wasnt it Timmy L that signed Nonis to a 5 year extension just last year in the first place?

Thats where we are out of luck because no way Timmy L is going to fire a guy he just signed even after he committed one of the worst FA mistakes in recent memory.