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hockeylover
07-19-2014, 09:05 AM
Make a guess as to where he ends up this season.

Leafs, Marlies, Modo, Steelheads.

JackBurton
07-19-2014, 09:18 AM
Marlies/Few Leaf games.

zeke
07-19-2014, 10:16 AM
Leafs.

hockeylover
07-19-2014, 10:55 AM
Leafs.

I picked Marlies but part of me thinks this answer isn't all that unreasonable. There really won't be much competition for him in that 2nd line RW spot.

Volcanologist
07-19-2014, 11:00 AM
I guessed Modo. Just looking at the odds it's very tough for an 18 year old to make it in the NHL.

hockeylover
07-19-2014, 11:01 AM
Any particular reason for Modo instead of Marlies? Strictly curious.

Metalleaf
07-19-2014, 11:01 AM
It's becoming more common though.

JaysCyYoung
07-19-2014, 11:10 AM
I voted for Marlies but I think he's going to make it awfully difficult for the brass to cut him in training camp.

Volcanologist
07-19-2014, 11:17 AM
Any particular reason for Modo instead of Marlies? Strictly curious.

Just figure he'd be more comfortable playing in more familiar surroundings instead of riding the bus to Grand Rapids or Norfolk. Nothing wrong with the SEL.

It could go any way though. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Leafs put him on the team, the kid is definitely good.

Leafin'
07-19-2014, 11:24 AM
NHL.

Rookie of the year!

hockeylover
07-19-2014, 11:25 AM
Nothing wrong with the SHL, enough highly ranked Swedes have returned there after being drafted and turned out pretty damn good. They were contractually obligated though, seems unusual to have a case like Nylander where there's no contract so we'll see.

He's likely better than all of Frattin, Santorelli, Clarkson as of today already though.

soco22
07-19-2014, 12:16 PM
CHL - we will slow play him. Ahl for playoffs

hockeylover
07-19-2014, 12:19 PM
I put it there as an option but I genuinely didn't expect anyone to select the Steelheads.

zeke
07-19-2014, 12:30 PM
the shanny/nonis/carlyle crew are all about CHARACTER, and shanny's been raving about the great first impression nylander made on him character-wise in rooke camp.

shanny sounded a bit smitten, to be honest.

Montana
07-19-2014, 12:33 PM
Nylander earning a spot, and still being sent to the Marlies would be very Leafs.....and is precisely what I expect to happen.

hockeylover
07-19-2014, 12:34 PM
Nylander earning a spot, and still being sent to the Marlies would be very Leafs.....and is precisely what I expect to happen.

This is probably a good bet.

TimHorton
07-19-2014, 12:42 PM
Montana nailed it.

Leafin'
07-19-2014, 12:47 PM
I expect him to make the team and be relegated to 6 minutes of ice time after his first mistake.

soco22
07-19-2014, 12:50 PM
I put it there as an option but I genuinely didn't expect anyone to select the Steelheads.

I'm special then :)

Knowing the leafs, they will select a veteran over him. Let him dominate CHL and go to world juniors to play. Go through CHL and ahl playoffs which is good experience too.

da_next_kid
07-19-2014, 03:05 PM
TML

LeafGm
07-19-2014, 03:13 PM
Sweden or the CHL both seem pretty unlikely to me. Mainly because if they go either of those routes, then he's lost to us for the entire year. I think the AHL is his most likely landing spot, though he'll probably get a call-up at some point. If Shanahan's following the Detroit model, they have pretty much all of their prospects put in time with their AHL team before they get a real shot in the NHL.

Leafin'
07-19-2014, 03:17 PM
The hope is that we've finally hit a home run with this kid and he sticks.

hockeylover
07-19-2014, 04:05 PM
Sweden or the CHL both seem pretty unlikely to me. Mainly because if they go either of those routes, then he's lost to us for the entire year. I think the AHL is his most likely landing spot, though he'll probably get a call-up at some point. If Shanahan's following the Detroit model, they have pretty much all of their prospects put in time with their AHL team before they get a real shot in the NHL.

In fairness though, we really have no way of knowing how Detroit would handle an 8th overall pick, do we?

zeke
07-19-2014, 04:43 PM
shanahan went straight from the draft to the nhl himself.

didn't hurt him too much.

so did Randy. he turned out alright, too.

Montana
07-19-2014, 04:53 PM
Carlyle played 26 games in the CHL his rookie year (then actually played 20+ more there. again the next year)....he was also 2 years older than Nylander is now.


Shanny was a similar case to Nylander tho.

BG
07-21-2014, 10:25 AM
I think he will very likely make the Leafs out of camp, and find his Marlies demotion before the ten games with a chance at a play-off call-up.

If it's a decision between junior and MODO, they'll send him to MODO 10/10 times.

hockeylover
07-21-2014, 10:27 AM
Wow, how'd we get so many picks for the Leafs so fast?

Pucklosopher
07-21-2014, 10:29 AM
I think he's going to split time between the Leafs and Marlies. But will have a nice extended stint on the Leafs.

trujaysfan
07-21-2014, 10:41 AM
Marlies with him getting 15+ games with the leafs depending on injuries.

I think it will be between him a Leivo for the 1st call up slot.

leafman101
07-21-2014, 10:43 AM
He'll probably have an impressive camp and be sent back to Sweden.

hockeylover
10-14-2014, 04:01 PM
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/113087/top-50-nhl-prospects-several-2014-draft-picks-debut-in-21-30-section-of-fall-rankings/

Ehlers: 11th
Nylander: 26th

MindzEye
10-14-2014, 04:35 PM
HF always has an anti-leaf bias. I'll do a similar analysis this season as I've done in previous seasons where I'll take HF's own individual player rankings and break down the Leafs Vs a team much higher in the team rankings. Like clockwork, HF rates numerous teams ahead of the Leafs every season, while at the same time, those teams don't have players ranked as high as they have Leafs ranked.

zeke
10-14-2014, 06:48 PM
ehlers having a slooow start this year without drouin.

Wayward DP
10-14-2014, 11:57 PM
I saw Ehlers play a few times and was not impressed with him at all. Very much a soft perimeter player, albeit a highly talented one. His skill set does not look like it will translate well to the NHL, a lot of the shit he does that get him points in junior just won't fly in the NHL. He wouldn't be the first soft talented midget to fizzle out either.

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 11:30 AM
William Nylander will be MODO's first line center in their game tonight. Starts at 1pm EST.

Skroder - Nylander - Possler

zeke
10-15-2014, 11:54 AM
nice.

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 11:59 AM
Link for anyone who's home during the day:

http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=285784&part=sports

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 01:05 PM
Apparently that link is to another game so I'm just following the live reporting. Google Translate is coming up with some hilarious stuff.

"MODO with a long attack where William Nylander is spinning with the puck."

"Oscar Sundh with an open position in the castle, but salvation from Adam Reideborn who guards the bag in MODO Hockey."

Volcanologist
10-15-2014, 01:15 PM
Very important to guard the bag.

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 01:19 PM
First PP for Modo - Nylander on the first PP unit. 1-0 Modo so far on a shorty.

Link's working now.

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 01:55 PM
Could easily have a couple assists already here. Set his linemates up with a couple fantastic chances. Looks pretty good at C. Wearing #88.

zeke
10-15-2014, 02:03 PM
Cool. Now I get to pencil him at C in my prospect lineups, even though i doubt he sticks there.

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 02:09 PM
I can't find on SHL.se where it says how many total draws he's taken... but he's at 77.8% with about 5 minutes left in the 2nd period.

zeke
10-15-2014, 02:11 PM
Zetterberg II

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 02:19 PM
Ah I figured it out. 8-2 on the draw. They had him playing the point on the last PP which resulted in a breakaway for Linkoping.

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 02:41 PM
And Nylander scores his first of the season. Pretty nice looking goal. If there's highlights later I'll try and post it.

zeke
10-15-2014, 03:14 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6k9hoVumz1r8253e.gif

hockeylover
10-15-2014, 04:15 PM
11-3 on the draw for 78.6%
+1, 2 shots, 16:24 TOI

zeke
10-15-2014, 04:31 PM
http://www.shl.se/shl-arena/38918/

at around 2:00

hockeylover
10-16-2014, 01:07 AM
Nikki Nine ‏@nikkinine 1h1 hour ago
William Nylander on Don Cherry criticism: "He's like a hockey god over there, I just have to work hard and prove him wrong."

JackBurton
10-16-2014, 01:13 AM
Don Cherry apparently doesn't know Stuart Percy exists.

That crap on Saturday was sad.

LeafGm
10-16-2014, 06:55 AM
Don Cherry apparently doesn't know Stuart Percy exists.

That crap on Saturday was sad.
Not to mention Nazem Kadri, Sam Carrick, Greg McKegg, David Broll, Josh Leivo, Connor Brown, Ryan Rupert, Matt Finn and Carter Verhaeghe. Along with Stuart Percy, that's 10 players still currently in the organization and drafted during the 5 years of Burke/Nonis management that played in the OHL, and were born in either the GTA proper or the Golden Horseshoe.

So, to sum up, as much as I do like him and find him entertaining a lot of the time, on this matter Cherry's a senile old **** that hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

leafman101
10-16-2014, 07:30 AM
Nikki Nine ‏@nikkinine 1h1 hour ago
William Nylander on Don Cherry criticism: "He's like a hockey god over there, I just have to work hard and prove him wrong."

Thats the right answer as opposed to the typical "who cares what he says" answer. This kid is going to be a good player even if he isn't some elite first line scorer. He has the talent, the right mentality and works his ass off.

number17
10-16-2014, 05:28 PM
Not to mention Nazem Kadri, Sam Carrick, Greg McKegg, David Broll, Josh Leivo, Connor Brown, Ryan Rupert, Matt Finn and Carter Verhaeghe. Along with Stuart Percy, that's 10 players still currently in the organization and drafted during the 5 years of Burke/Nonis management that played in the OHL, and were born in either the GTA proper or the Golden Horseshoe.

So, to sum up, as much as I do like him and find him entertaining a lot of the time, on this matter Cherry's a senile old **** that hasn't a clue what he's talking about.Yeah, I mean, I enjoy watching Grapes, just because I've watched him since I was a little kid ... but his stupidity has hit a new level with the new season.

Seriously, Ritchie? And the Leafs have no Ontario and no Toronto boy?? Did you know where Stuart Percy is from Don? and yeah, not to mention all the other names you've listed. And Don, despite Nylander being a Swede by his passport, the kid literally grew up as a Canadian.

But good answer by Nylander.

soco22
10-16-2014, 07:15 PM
Didn't he say the same thing about steen?

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 07:48 PM
One only needs to look at our record of drafting good ol Ontario boys Vs any time we've drafted outside of Ontario in the 1st round to get a little nervous any time Gary Bettman says "with their first selection in the XXXX entry draft, the Toronto Maple Leafs select, from the Ontario Hockey League......."

Kadri and Percy have helped to ease that pain, but the list of 1st round Leaf selection busts from the OHL is long and mother****ing illustrious.

LeafGm
10-16-2014, 07:50 PM
One only needs to look at our record of drafting good ol Ontario boys Vs any time we've drafted outside of Ontario in the 1st round to get a little nervous any time Gary Bettman says "with their first selection in the XXXX entry draft, the Toronto Maple Leafs select, from the Ontario Hockey League......."

Kadri and Percy have helped to ease that pain, but the list of 1st round Leaf selection busts from the OHL is long and mother****ing illustrious.
So you're saying you weren't a huge fan of good 'ole Kingston boy Brandon Convery, or defensive stud Jeff Ware from Toronto?

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 07:55 PM
Or Drake Berehowsky...or Rob Pearson...or Scott Pearson...or Scott Thornton, or Steve Bancroft...or...


well, you get the ****ing idea

zeke
10-17-2014, 10:56 AM
it really was franchise changing. all thanks to Ballard's refusal to hire any scouts at all.

despite all the crap, those late '80s leafs were actually putting together some decent talent. even the early 80s drafting was decent (Damphousse, Clark, Iafrate, Courtnall, Richardson, Gill, Leeman, Nylund, Ihnacek, Wregget, Benning, Muni, McGill, Gavin) and then to his credit Fletcher came in and used some of that talent to swing some big moves to create some pretty good teams.....but those early '90s teams could have been legit elite teams if this drafting disaster hadn't happened:

1988: #6 S.Pearson OHL, #27 T.Domi OHL
1989: #3 S.Thornton OHL, #12 R.Pearson OHL, #21 S.Bancroft OHL
1990: #10 D.Berehowsky OHL
1992: #8 B.Convery, #23 G.Marshall

Just an absolute disaster collection of first round picks, and that extended right through those drafts.

the only saving grace from those drafts is when they selected some dirty frenchmen in Perreault and Potvin.

and then at the end of those dark drafting years they must have hired some euro scouts because they started making good picks like Jonsson (#12 '93), Berezin (#256 '94), Mironov (#160 '91), Borchevsky (#77 '92), Modin (#64 '94).

but those disaster first round drafts from '88-'92 probably cost us a cup or two. those early '90s leafs could have been powerhouses if they had made some decent selections those years, especially americans frenchemen and euros ike Roenick/Brind'Amour/Selanne (picked just afte Scott Pearson in '88), Guerin/Holik ('89), Tkachuk/Brodeur ('90),

zeke
10-17-2014, 10:56 AM
though to be fair to Stellick, that '89 draft where we had three first rounders was maybe the worst draft of all time.

Artnes
10-17-2014, 11:02 AM
Detroit cleaned up that year. Lidstrom, Fedorov and Draper

MindzEye
10-17-2014, 12:37 PM
but those disaster first round drafts from '88-'92 probably cost us a cup or two.

Just to give ourselves something else to cry about


If our 1st round drafting from 1987-92 had been different...what would our roster potentially have looked like?

well....

92-93

Goes from:


Andrechuck-Gilmour-Borchevsky
Clark-Cullen-Anderson
Krushelniski-Zezel-Osbourne/Pearson
Berg-McIlwain-Foligno/Osbourne

Ellett-Lefebvre
Gill-Mironov
Macoun-Rouse
Berehowsky

Potvin
Fuhr

Becomes

Andrechuck-Gilmour-Selanne/Roenick
Clark-Sakic-Anderson
Tkachuk-Zezel-Guerin
Berg-McIlwain-Foligno/Osbourne

Ellett-Lefebvre
Gill-Mironov
Macoun-Foote
Berehowsky

Potvin
Fuhr

93-94 gets worse....

The Scott Pearson selection is the one that really hurts. Right after him were Gelinas, Roenick, Selanne, Brind'Amour....even Gelinas would have been a nice addition.

That was a great group of years to be bad in...we were bad....and managed to **** it up royally

zeke
10-17-2014, 12:50 PM
Detroit cleaned up that year. Lidstrom, Fedorov and Draper

crazy, considering how awful that draft was.

Leafin'
10-17-2014, 09:00 PM
Watching Zetterberg absolutely sh*t on our team tonight, does anybody see a little bit of Zetterberg in Nylander? The skating, poise with the puck and playmaking ability?

A guy can dream right?

LeafOfFaith
10-17-2014, 10:51 PM
Not if the guy is a Leaf fan. Then, only nightmares.

hockeylover
10-18-2014, 12:39 PM
Nylander assists on Possler powerplay goal. MODO up 1-0.

hockeylover
10-18-2014, 03:55 PM
Nearly 22 minutes of ice time. 2 games, 1 goal, 1 assist.

In the first game I think he easily could've had three points and by the sounds of things it was more of the same today. Pretty impressive, he's only a kid.

zeke
10-18-2014, 03:56 PM
yeah, 18yr olds are never the best player on their team in the shl, and it looks like nylander just might be that.

MindzEye
10-18-2014, 05:59 PM
He was NHL ready this year.

But oh well. Randy probably would have benched him every time he sneezed anyway. When that stunned **** is gone by next season, Willy should be more than ready for top 6 minutes.