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Metalleaf
10-09-2014, 10:25 PM
Luke Schenn posted a tidy -5 tonight.

Corey Perry, first hattrick of the season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44_8bL8PNWw&list=UUqFMzb-4AUf6WAIbl132QKA

Metalleaf
10-09-2014, 10:29 PM
5-0 Wild, who have 33 shots to Colorado's 13.

Metalleaf
10-09-2014, 10:56 PM
Larry Brooks
Dan Boyle out four to six weeks with broken hand.

axlsalinger
10-09-2014, 10:56 PM
Sam Bennett out 4-6 months for shoulder surgery.

Blueman
10-09-2014, 11:57 PM
Joe Colborne sighting

Killer93
10-10-2014, 12:04 AM
Raymond hatty haha

hockeylover
10-10-2014, 12:07 AM
This is the usual thing where an ex-Leaf scores a hatty in the first game of the season, everyone loses their minds and then its all downhill from there, right?

Like clockwork.

hockeylover
10-10-2014, 12:39 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzj2G38CYAAWctX.jpg

LeafGm
10-10-2014, 12:40 AM
Meh, Raymond started the season on fire for us too, just last year. 7 goals, 8 assists and 15 points in the first 20 games of the season.

Still didn't stop pretty much everybody from wanting him gone by the end of the year.

MyNameIsJonas
10-10-2014, 12:56 AM
Hawks/Stars had a playoff vibe to it tonight, great game.

Hoss
10-10-2014, 08:26 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzj2G38CYAAWctX.jpg

Maybe "the Swarm" was Eakins contribution to the leafs staff.

egad

JackBurton
10-10-2014, 08:47 AM
5-0 Wild, who have 33 shots to Colorado's 13.

Going to be a bad year for Colorado.

hockeylover
10-10-2014, 09:05 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzj2G38CYAAWctX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Wlytoil.jpg?2

And here's one from their PP.

Leafyblue
10-10-2014, 09:08 AM
How much are the seats behind that Car Wash and Detail Centers sign?

leafman101
10-10-2014, 09:09 AM
The classic 5 on 1 swarm.

Eakins is a good coach.

Metalleaf
10-10-2014, 09:11 AM
How much are the seats behind that Car Wash and Detail Centers sign?

That's a TV ad, it's not actually there in the arena, the raptors have them.

Leafyblue
10-10-2014, 09:13 AM
Yeah, I was wondering that..you can see through it a bit. Thanks. :)

Artnes
10-10-2014, 11:28 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzj2G38CYAAWctX.jpg

Poor Hall looks lost

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-10-2014, 01:48 PM
Meh, Raymond started the season on fire for us too, just last year. 7 goals, 8 assists and 15 points in the first 20 games of the season.

Still didn't stop pretty much everybody from wanting him gone by the end of the year.

trust me I heard it a ton from CanadienFan that we missed the boat on Raymond, that he was a steal for you etc at the beginning of the season. They weren't saying the same late in the year.

leafman101
10-10-2014, 01:49 PM
He was a steal last year for $1 million.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-10-2014, 01:49 PM
The classic 5 on 1 swarm.

Eakins is a good coach.

I remember how upset he was when Lars Eller said they were like a junior team. He claimed that gave the team motivation to beat us etc. Of course that same motivation didn't help them in the first period when they fell behind 2-0 and only got back in the game when we started to ease up.

Metalleaf
10-14-2014, 11:37 PM
Oilers gonna Oiler...even their twitter account gave up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz9XxLCIcAEtjgC.png

zeke
10-14-2014, 11:46 PM
I'll say it again, F Dallas Eakins and the media who made him.

Metalleaf
10-14-2014, 11:50 PM
John Scott scored a goal tonight.

MindzEye
10-14-2014, 11:54 PM
I'll say it again, F Dallas Eakins and the media who made him.

Amen. Dude was hailed as a genius in Toronto for playing AHL veterans, and moving Kadri to the wing as a development tactic to make him a better centre????

MyNameIsJonas
10-15-2014, 12:23 AM
Did Eakins have a better D corps with the Oilers or Marlies?

MyNameIsJonas
10-15-2014, 12:24 AM
I suspect 4AM bike rides for the boys tomorrow, cause you know it has to be conditioning.

Metalleaf
10-15-2014, 12:30 AM
@Steve_Dangle: The Marlies D who played the most games that season were Juraj Mikus, Simon Gysbers, Korbinian Holzer, Josh Engel, Keith Aulie, Drew Paris.

Hunt-Schultz
Ference-Nurse
Nikitin-Fayne

axlsalinger
10-15-2014, 05:25 AM
Bruce Garrioched tweeted this photo of the crowd during warmup before the Sens/Panthers game in Miami Oct. 13. A little unfair, gotta give the people time to get to the game.

http://i.imgur.com/URAAiIM.jpg


Now for the real test: the start of the game. Noticeably fuller, I'd say. I'll bet that "noise" prompt on the scoreboard is getting quite a response.

http://i.imgur.com/eCL6seL.jpg

LeafGm
10-15-2014, 06:55 AM
I'll say it again, F Dallas Eakins and the media who made him.
Toronto's media has an odd habit of deifying the Marlies head coach. They did the same thing with Paul Maurice when he had the job.

JohnnyHolmes
10-15-2014, 07:52 AM
Bruce Garrioched tweeted this photo of the crowd during warmup before the Sens/Panthers game in Miami Oct. 13. A little unfair, gotta give the people time to get to the game.

http://i.imgur.com/URAAiIM.jpg


Now for the real test: the start of the game. Noticeably fuller, I'd say. I'll bet that "noise" prompt on the scoreboard is getting quite a response.

http://i.imgur.com/eCL6seL.jpg

Wow. That looks like an Ottawa Rebel NLL game crowd.

zeke
10-15-2014, 09:57 AM
@Steve_Dangle: The Marlies D who played the most games that season were Juraj Mikus, Simon Gysbers, Korbinian Holzer, Josh Engel, Keith Aulie, Drew Paris.

Hunt-Schultz
Ference-Nurse
Nikitin-Fayne

that underrates what marlies he had that year.

his playoffs D was:

Gardiner - Holzer
Mikus - Gysbers
Fraser - Lashoff/Blacker/Engel/Percy

with scrivens behind them.


and his forwards:

Kadri - Colborne - Frattin
D'Amigo - Zigo - Hamilton
Mueller - Dupuis - Deschamps
Scott -Acton -Ashton/Orr/Abbott/Broll

zeke
10-15-2014, 09:57 AM
Toronto's media has an odd habit of deifying the Marlies head coach. They did the same thing with Paul Maurice when he had the job.

because leafs prospects suck, so marlies success must be coaching.

Metalleaf
10-16-2014, 01:00 AM
@cmorganfoxaz: Edmonton hasn't allowed fewer than 5 goals in a game this season. They've allowed 22 in 4 games.

Bravo, Edmonton.

JackBurton
10-16-2014, 01:11 AM
WTF is Edmonton going to do? Calgary looks so much better. And Calgary just started the rebuild.

Leafin'
10-16-2014, 03:20 AM
Edmonton with McDavid is a joke. Can it happen?

LeafGm
10-16-2014, 07:02 AM
Edmonton with McDavid is a joke. Can it happen?
Absolutely it can. Just take a look at the Western conference---can you spot a single team that the Oilers are capable of finishing ahead of? I can't.

It's part of the reason that I really wish that for the draft lottery, they'd just throw the names of all 14 non-playoff teams in a hat, and then draw them out one-by-one, starting with the team that picks 14th overall.

BeLeafer
10-16-2014, 07:16 AM
The Edmonton Oilers ... a testament to the wisdom of tanking.

BeLeafer
10-16-2014, 07:25 AM
WTF is Edmonton going to do? Calgary looks so much better. And Calgary just started the rebuild.

Hiller stopped 49 of 50 shots last night.

leafman101
10-16-2014, 07:32 AM
Mark Fayne and Benoit Pouliot didn't solve all of their problems?

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 08:33 AM
Calgary is "better" because they're playing decent veterans heavily

They have one top 6 defender under 27 yrs old, and a top 6 with 31 yr old's Hudler & Glencross, with 29 yr old Mason Raymond. Edmonton is almost entirely 26-27 and younger, with a **** ton more young talent than Calgary.

Both teams are doing what the other should be doing. Calgary should be allowing themselves to be organically bad for a few years (it's not tanking if you're actually shit), and Edmonton should be loading up on quality veterans like Glencross, Giordano, etc

Metalleaf
10-16-2014, 08:36 AM
Glencross is a floater, not sure Edmonton needs that.

zeke
10-16-2014, 10:44 AM
I knew edmonton was in serious trouble when they thought Andrew Ference was an impact signing and good choice for captain.

That was their "rob ramage" moment, and their management is exactly as bad as the leafs' was at the time.

what's crazy about edmonton is that Hall and Yakupov are actually looking good, and will both likely be good #1 overall picks, yet they're still horrific.

zeke
10-16-2014, 10:50 AM
Calgary Age in order of Ice Time

Ramo 28
Hiller 32

Giordano 31
Brodie 24
Russell 27
Wideman 31
Engelland 32
Smid 28
Diaz 29

Backlund 25
Glencross 32
Raymond 29
Byron 25
Monahan 20
Hudler 31
Colborne 25
Jones 30
Setoguchi 28
Gaudreau 21
Bouma 24
Stajan 31
Bollig 28
McGrattan 33



Edmonton:

Scrivens 28
Fasth 32

Schultz 24
Nikkitin 28
Hunt 26
Ference 35
Petry 27
Nurse 19
Fayne 27

RNH 21
Eberle 24
Hall 23
Arcobello 26
Perron 26
Gordon 31
Purcell 29
Puliot 28
Yakupov 21
Hendriks 33
Draisatl 19
Joensuu 27
Acton 27
Yakimov 20

zeke
10-16-2014, 10:53 AM
and hey, was thinking about this last night.

Edmonton badly needs NHL calibre defensemen and centreman with offensive potential (because Draisatl really should be sent back down to junior). The wings are their strength.


How about Franson + Holland for Perron?

Perron slides right on to the 2nd line wing with Kadri and Loops.

We call up Carrick for fourth line C.

Go with:

Vanryk - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Perron
Komo - Santo - Clarkson
Winnik - Carrick - Booth/Kozun/Frattin/Ashton

Phaneuf - Rielly
Gardiner - Robidas
Percy - Polak
(Holzer/Mikkelson/Granberg/Loov)

BG
10-16-2014, 11:02 AM
Calgary seems to have maintained it's structure throughout, keeping a solid leadership core and bringing young players into a better environment. They've also been able to continue rolling out NHL calibre goaltending, something Edmonton hasn't quite figured out.

You want a better shot at the lottery, keep a question mark in nets.

LeafGm
10-16-2014, 11:09 AM
How about Franson + Holland for Perron?
I know they are the Oilers, and all, but would they really want to sacrifice a significant piece up front for a pending UFA defenseman and our fourth line center?

worm
10-16-2014, 11:50 AM
I know they are the Oilers, and all, but would they really want to sacrifice a significant piece up front for a pending UFA defenseman and our fourth line center?

They have a 5th line centre on the number 1 line....so maybe.

zeke
10-16-2014, 12:02 PM
Is he really a significant piece up front?

they have him lining up on what looks like the third line this year. he's only signed for one more year. They've got Hall, Eberle, and Pouliot locked in long term for $16m on the wing, and Yakupov is going to get $5-6mil himself starting next year.

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 12:19 PM
Wait....why is Yakupov going to get 5-6 million?

LeafGm
10-16-2014, 12:28 PM
Is he really a significant piece up front?

they have him lining up on what looks like the third line this year. he's only signed for one more year. They've got Hall, Eberle, and Pouliot locked in long term for $16m on the wing, and Yakupov is going to get $5-6mil himself starting next year.
He may be lining up on the "third line", but since Pouliot's career high point total is 36, and Yakupov only managed a 30 point pace in 63 games last year, I would guess that Perron being on that line is for the purpose of balancing the lineup.

At this point, he's still clearly, at worst, their #3 winger. He's also their most experienced scoring forward.

As for Yakupov getting 5-6 million next year...I guess you figure this is going to be a break-out season for him?

zeke
10-16-2014, 01:11 PM
If RNH gets $6m longterm, Yak shouldn't be far behind.

as for depth charts, I guess you're kinda right:

RNH 20:08
Eberle 19:34
Hall 18:50

Gordon 15:25
Perron 15:44
Purcell 15:23

Arcobello 17:52
Pouliot 13:43
Yakupov 12:51

Draisatl 12:32
Hendriks 12:41
Joensuu 11:46

Acton 11:33
Yakimov 11:19


PP

RNH 2:32
Hall 2:30
Eberle 2:21

Draisatl 2:02
Perron 2:15
Yakupov 2:04

Arcobello 1:11 / Gordon 0:31
Purcell 1:59
Pouliot 1:49

Artnes
10-16-2014, 01:24 PM
Yak gets 3 per tops unless he light it up this years.

Leafin'
10-16-2014, 01:25 PM
Would you take a shot on Yakupov?

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 01:31 PM
If RNH gets $6m longterm, Yak shouldn't be far behind.


Why?

RNH

18: .84ppg
19: .60ppg
20: .70ppg
Career: .72ppg

Yak

19: .65ppg
20: .38ppg
Career: .50ppg

Hoss
10-16-2014, 01:44 PM
I find it so frustrating that when the leafs started 0-2 the talk was all that we need to draft the new core of this team.... and that if you look at the top teams, they have built their clubs through the draft. One radio show was commenting on the number of drafted talent on the leafs, and that they can't win like this... this isn't the era of Fletcher and Quinn.... and on and on. They talked about LA, and Chicago, and Pitt etc etc.

The idiots that call in all agree with the "experts".... and everything is thought of as law. They bring it up as an argument when the leafs do poorly (that we don't have any drafted talent, and that we should tank) but never bring up the amount of times that it hasn't worked. Its flippin ridiculous.

Volcanologist
10-16-2014, 03:08 PM
Most of these media guys couldn't hack it as posters here. They'd be laughed off the board.

JackBurton
10-16-2014, 04:57 PM
You'll have better odds of winning Lotto Max than copying what the Pens did in the draft.

And what about the mess that is Edmonton? Not long ago the "Experts" were frothing from the mouth over the future dynasty the Oilers were building.

JackBurton
10-16-2014, 05:00 PM
Calgary is "better" because they're playing decent veterans heavily

They have one top 6 defender under 27 yrs old, and a top 6 with 31 yr old's Hudler & Glencross, with 29 yr old Mason Raymond. Edmonton is almost entirely 26-27 and younger, with a **** ton more young talent than Calgary.

Both teams are doing what the other should be doing. Calgary should be allowing themselves to be organically bad for a few years (it's not tanking if you're actually shit), and Edmonton should be loading up on quality veterans like Glencross, Giordano, etc

Calgary has really built up their farm system a heck of a lot in a short period of time. I respect them because they're certainly not trying to tank on purpose.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-16-2014, 05:05 PM
Most of these media guys couldn't hack it as posters here. They'd be laughed off the board.

I wouldn't act like this board is the Oracle at Delphi either

:couch

number17
10-16-2014, 05:08 PM
Watching the Oilers is kinda fun in the same way watching a train-wreck or a car crash is fun ... they are THAT bad.

They've been through numerous coaches and management (what is interesting is, from Lowe to MacTavish it's still the same group and same line of thinking at the helm, just a different face and a different name) over the years, and the team still stinks.

And no matter how many top picks and top prospects they have on their team, they are still a long way away from a respectable team.

I wonder how long it will take until they fire Eakins. But as any Oilers fan will probably tell you, they no longer believe replacing the coach alone will do anything. Next up might be a firesale and a complete overhaul of the management group.

There are many trade possibilities between the Leafs and Oilers, as we have extra d-men we can trade, and they have forwards who we can use. Bottomline though, I don't think any single d-man or goalie can help the Oilers. Their problems are much deeper than that.

JackBurton
10-16-2014, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't act like this board is the Oracle at Delphi either

:couch

Compared to HF it is.

ForeverTML
10-16-2014, 06:37 PM
Lucic vs Weise tonight??

Volcanologist
10-16-2014, 06:52 PM
I wouldn't act like this board is the Oracle at Delphi either

:couch

How is what I said acting like this board is the Oracle at Delphi?

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 06:59 PM
and why does he continue to use ancient priests to a sun god of greek antiquity as an example of infallible knowledge. There has been almost nothing in history that has been proven so fallible and incorrect.

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 07:10 PM
Calgary has really built up their farm system a heck of a lot in a short period of time. I respect them because they're certainly not trying to tank on purpose.

Agreed to a degree, but I don't think bringing in a guy like Mason Raymond helps them long term. I agree that planning to lose is some punk shit, but if you're organically that bad, by all means look for things to make your team better over the medium and long term, but I wouldn't go making short term moves to get better. Not until I had a legit group of young talent in the lineup that I wanted to get experience in "big" games.

LeafGm
10-16-2014, 07:19 PM
I wonder how long it will take until they fire Eakins. But as any Oilers fan will probably tell you, they no longer believe replacing the coach alone will do anything. Next up might be a firesale and a complete overhaul of the management group.
As much as Eakins was massively overrated by the media, it'd be pretty unfair if he was the first guy to go. There really isn't a whole lot any coach could do with that fundamentally flawed roster they've got. They don't have a single above-average NHL defenseman, and half their defense is probably barely NHL-calibre at best. In goal, they've got a platoon of two former backup goalies (with a combined 109 games of NHL experience between them coming into the season) that were dumped by their former teams after being replaced by better young prospects.

Up front, their best forwards are all the same player: average to smallish in size, speedy, skilled, not physical and only able to play on one side of the puck. Except for Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, they're all wingers too. As for Nugent-Hopkins, he's the only real NHL calibre center they've got---and he's 21 years old, with a career high of 44% in the faceoff dot.

To make matters worse, no help is on the way, really. Despite the fact that they've been picking at the front of each round every year, in the last 10 years, they haven't selected a single useful NHL player outside of the first round of the NHL draft. If ever there was an organization that needed to clean out the entire front office, starting with the President and going all the way down to their director of scouting and entire amateur scouting staff, it's the Oilers. Until then, they can keep shuffling new coaches in and out of there as much as they want, but nothing's going to change.

BeLeafer
10-16-2014, 07:36 PM
That pass the torch thing is so, well, gay. Puts the habs at an immediate disadvantage.

LeafGm
10-16-2014, 07:48 PM
Interesting story unfolding in Colorado. They put Semyon Varlamov on IR earlier today with a groin injury, and recalled Calvin Pickard to back up Reto Berra. Then, the Sens ran over Berra two minutes in, and knocked him out of the game.

So, if anything happens to Pickard...who goes in next? I vote for Colorado's head coach.

CTheBigPicture
10-16-2014, 08:27 PM
Grabo gets hammered by Scott:


http://youtu.be/2-AZdl8-EsU

Hoss
10-16-2014, 09:08 PM
So, if anything happens to Pickard...who goes in next? I vote for Colorado's head coach.

That would be the most awesomist thing ever.... Roy, in a fit of rage, screaming and yelling while strapping on the pads, and yelling at the trainers at the same time to tape up his stick

Metalleaf
10-16-2014, 09:11 PM
Boston looks like a lottery team when they play Montreal.

MindzEye
10-16-2014, 09:35 PM
Grabo gets hammered by Scott:


http://youtu.be/2-AZdl8-EsU

He's always been shit at protecting himself.

SundinsTooth
10-17-2014, 06:32 AM
That look on Scott's face....

Oh shit, I hope he lives....

zeke
10-17-2014, 11:07 AM
Boston looks like a lottery team when they play Montreal.

They haven't looked good at all this year.

I thought Boston was pretty lucky last year to get much needed surprise performances from the likes of Smith, Soderberg, and Krug to replace what they lost in Seguin, Horton, and Peverley. Without that surprise scoring depth they would not have been a top team last year.

Now they've lost Iginla and Boychuk, and I'm not so sure they'll get as lucky finding surprise performances to cover those losses this year, especially if a guy like Krug takes an unsurprising step back this year.


Right now they're trying to forcefeed depth into their lineup by putting a guy like Seth Griffith on the first line to try and allow them a third scoring line, but I doubt that works out. They've taken a flyer on Gagne to give them scoring depth but that's like gambling on Booth to be an important player. and their defense is starting to look pretty thin - Chara and Seidenberg are the only reliable ones on the blue line - Hamilton, Krug, McQuaid, Bartkowski, Miller is a little sketchy, with Hamilton being the only one that you'd want to bet on being a solid top-4 dman right now (or even in the future, really).

blacksheep
10-18-2014, 01:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxYUEyYmMyo

Such a classy bastard. Love his reaction to the Hab fans. What an ass.

JohnnyHolmes
10-18-2014, 05:07 AM
That pass the torch thing is so, well, gay. Puts the habs at an immediate disadvantage.

That's exactly what is wrong with Edmonton. You have a guy that lucked in to being on 6 Cup winning teams that thinks he was actually a factor in any of it, and the last player to play without a helmet running the show.

Of course they're a disaster.

The Habs with the Rejean Houle sideshow is the perfect analogy. "Murray Baron is da guy" :lol

JackBurton
10-18-2014, 11:42 AM
Edmonton has to move past the 80's dynasty years. Ditch those guys and get some smart hockey people.

Habspatrol
10-18-2014, 02:40 PM
Clean house and bring in Shero and Bylsma.

MyNameIsJonas
10-18-2014, 02:52 PM
Clean house and bring in Shero and Bylsma.

but they aren't ex Oilers

Cojo
10-19-2014, 09:12 PM
5 goals in 7 games so far for Mason Raymond.

We certainly could have used some of that offense right about now!

LeafGm
10-19-2014, 09:21 PM
5 goals in 7 games so far for Mason Raymond.

We certainly could have used some of that offense right about now!
Remember though, he pulled the Mr. October routine with us last year too, only to fade rapidly away. The same thing will happen in Calgary.

Habspatrol
10-19-2014, 09:23 PM
Mason "Brian Savage" Raymond

MindzEye
10-20-2014, 01:12 PM
An awesome read on our next coach

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=734378


It's long, but read it. My favourite quote:


Babcock has taken many lessons from the business of business.

"Any CEO in any business that does a good job has a succession plan," he said.

JohnnyHolmes
10-20-2014, 01:28 PM
Mason "Brian Savage" Raymond

Hey at least Brian Savage would bring it at playoff time.

MyNameIsJonas
10-20-2014, 01:55 PM
Victor Hedman out 4-6 weeks

Metalleaf
10-20-2014, 04:21 PM
They survived without Stamkos for 3/4 of a season, so I think they can weather that storm too.

JackBurton
10-20-2014, 04:23 PM
I;m glad I did not pick him in my pool.

worm
10-20-2014, 05:04 PM
I;m glad I did not pick him in my pool.

You're lucky.

I have Hedman and Yoynov.

Metalleaf
10-20-2014, 11:42 PM
Breaking: Oilers may not lose this game.

BeLeafer
10-21-2014, 08:37 PM
Rask looking very human this year ...

Metalleaf
10-21-2014, 11:50 PM
Carolina only winless team left....when do they blow things up?

Wayward DP
10-22-2014, 12:10 AM
Heh, and somehow the guy who orchestrate their incompetence over the past several years ended up as GM in Pittsburgh

Metalleaf
10-22-2014, 12:13 AM
I just looked at the Canes' roster, yeesh...both Staals are out so its Skinner, Tlusty, Semin, and a bunch on AHL call-ups. Good shot at winning the McDavid/Eichel sweepstakes.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-22-2014, 08:04 PM
You're lucky.

I have Hedman and Yoynov.

you always like wife beaters

zeke
10-22-2014, 11:02 PM
i turned on the oilers game and found myself rooting for.....the oilers.

weird.

guess i feel sorry for them, or maybe its because i can't see why the avalanche have been so much better than them.

Deckie007
10-22-2014, 11:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sZbAz8V.jpg

Pens vs Flyers game in Pittsburgh tonight. Nice gesture.

zeke
10-22-2014, 11:57 PM
the crowd belting out our anthem was pretty heartwarming.

Metalleaf
10-23-2014, 12:14 AM
Those Penguins' jerseys were sweet.

zeke
10-23-2014, 09:09 PM
http://fat.gfycat.com/PhonyMenacingBlackfootedferret.gif

Chara leaves with injury, will not return.

Leafyblue
10-23-2014, 10:27 PM
Knee maybe.

Metalleaf
10-23-2014, 10:42 PM
Definitely knee.

BeLeafer
10-23-2014, 11:09 PM
Carolina down 0-5 to Calgary halfway through the third.

Only a matter of time before they blow that pile of dogshit up. Eric Staal, c'mon down!

LeafOfFaith
10-23-2014, 11:17 PM
Colborne with 8 points in 9 games...

Metalleaf
10-23-2014, 11:28 PM
@TSNAaronWard: Bruins Zdeno Chara suspected left knee ligament injury.Expected out 4-6 weeks at which time they'll evaluate need for surgery or not. #TSN

zeke
10-23-2014, 11:29 PM
at 37 yrs old, that's baaaaaaaad news.

Deckie007
10-24-2014, 12:18 AM
Time for Dougie Orr to save the Bruins!

Metalleaf
10-24-2014, 12:23 AM
Or Douglas Murray

CTheBigPicture
10-24-2014, 10:51 AM
The Canes are doing it right. Had a young franchise Centre in Staal. Won with him. Now he is in his final few years, they tank in the right year, find his replacement, and trade Staal for prospects. colt's way of doing it.

Deckie007
10-24-2014, 11:01 AM
Except, you know, the Colts were a top team in the League for 10 + years with Manning...the Canes won a Cup but have been mediocre at best the rest of the time.

leafman101
10-24-2014, 11:09 AM
The Canes aren't tanking. They just had a terrible GM for years.

zeke
10-24-2014, 11:09 AM
Eric Staal is 29. How is he in his final few years?

and the cup they won was almost a decade ago now.

Deckie007
10-24-2014, 11:10 AM
Yeah it was a laboured analogy at best...completely wrong at worst.

LeafGm
10-24-2014, 11:11 AM
The Canes are doing it right. Had a young franchise Centre in Staal. Won with him. Now he is in his final few years, they tank in the right year, find his replacement, and trade Staal for prospects. colt's way of doing it.
The Hurricanes are just a supremely lucky franchise. First, they lucked out the first place by even getting Staal, because the Penguins decided to take Marc-Andre Fleury with the #1 pick, and leave Eric Staal to the Hurricanes at #2. Then they make their miracle run to the finals, as many eastern conference teams have done before them...except their western conference opponents end up being the Edmonton ****ing Oilers. To boot, the Oilers also have Ty Conklin in net, because they lost the starter who'd carried them that far right at the beginning of the series.

As for this year, I think it's just a case of them being lucky again. I don't think they're like the Sabres, who obviously are trying to be as bad as possible on purpose. The Hurricanes just spent a ton of money on Alexander Semin and Jordan Staal over the past few years, and they brought in one of the best back up goalies in the league when Cam Ward started to falter pretty badly. But now, both Staals are injured, Jeff Skinner's concussed again and Semin's gone to shit now that he has his big contract. They've tried to be good, but a combination of injuries and poor management means that they may have just lucked out into bottoming out in a year when two potential franchise #1 centers/generational talents are available.

zeke
10-24-2014, 11:14 AM
If Colorado goes right back to sucking this year, the record of the Great Tank Teams is going to look even worse.

CTheBigPicture
10-24-2014, 11:25 AM
Except, you know, the Colts were a top team in the League for 10 + years with Manning...the Canes won a Cup but have been mediocre at best the rest of the time.
Just because they didn't do as well after drafting the star player doesn't Mean the analogy was bad.

I'm talking about filing the toughest position to fill in the game. You don't have a number one C, you will have a tough time to win. But it doesn't mean if you have it, you will win.

I just don't see how the leafs will fill that void. Maybe with the addition of hunter we can draft a Kopitar.

I feel the same, stronger actually, with the NBA.

Fill the star position then bring in a Burke to do his magic. Not the other way around.

CTheBigPicture
10-24-2014, 11:27 AM
Eric Staal is 29. How is he in his final few years?

and the cup they won was almost a decade ago now.
He's got about 800 games under his belt. That's a lot of games. Age is just a number. He'll be done, as in stops being a star, in what, 4 seasons?

Artnes
10-24-2014, 12:36 PM
A lot of guys age well continue to play well into their mid/late 30s

There is no concrete evidence to suggest Staal will fall off the face of the earth

corksens
10-24-2014, 12:46 PM
Am I really reading an argument that suggests a 29 year old is getting towards the last little bit of his career?

number17
10-24-2014, 12:57 PM
And the Canes have done a LOT more wrong's to suggest they're on the right path .... how about the Jordan Staal trade and the subsequent contract? GOod luck unloading that contract!! How about the Semin contract?! High risk gamble didn't pay off ...

Rutherford has left the team with its cap situation in a BAD shape for Francis. It sure make you feel confident about your future if you were a Pens fan eh? ;)

WellPlayed
10-24-2014, 01:01 PM
He's got about 800 games under his belt. That's a lot of games. Age is just a number. He'll be done, as in stops being a star, in what, 4 seasons?

How does the amount of games played matter? If a guy enters the league at 25, and only has 300 games in the league, you would consider him less broken down? Because chances are he wasn't sitting at home resting up from 18-25...

leafman101
10-24-2014, 01:02 PM
Its pure luck anyway. The Colts didn't do anything the right way. Manning was going into the draft the year before where the Colts didn't have the top pick but decided last second to wait another year, and then Manning just happened to have a season ending injury before the season of the Luck draft.

Nothing about that was planned.

Of course you would like that to happen perfectly like that. But you can't will that to happen.

MindzEye
10-24-2014, 03:10 PM
Am I really reading an argument that suggests a 29 year old is getting towards the last little bit of his career?

This is what happens when the 'XXXXX to the Leafs' rumours feel like more than just idle speculation. We're not allowed to have nice things, so Phil Kessel was a locker room cancer, Dion Phaneuf an *******, etc.

MindzEye
10-24-2014, 03:16 PM
How does the amount of games played matter? If a guy enters the league at 25, and only has 300 games in the league, you would consider him less broken down? Because chances are he wasn't sitting at home resting up from 18-25...

Eric Staal has missed 17 games in his career prior to this injury.

17.


This push to make him look broken down is hilarious. The TSN article that tried to show him on the decline (but instead showed him on a plateau of outstanding play) was equally hilarious.

There are about 3-4 centres in the league who are clearly better than he is, and there's no good argument against him having less the 4-5 seasons left as a stud. After that it will come down to a bit of luck and a lot of how he looks after himself.

BG
10-24-2014, 03:34 PM
Staal has another good 5-6 years of production, star centre, and a good guy.

Not sure I'd overpay in a trade, but I'd show major trade interest and take my chances of signing him as a UFA.

zeke
10-24-2014, 03:39 PM
he's worth a spezza price. maybe a smidge more.

leafman101
10-24-2014, 03:43 PM
I'd be happy to overpay for Eric Staal. He's the one thing this team really, really needs and is impossible to get.

zeke
10-24-2014, 03:53 PM
the good news is that we have some real depth.

we have 7 nhl calibre dmen on the roster, and you could argue that all of them are top-4 calibre. then you have finn, loov, granberg, nilsson on the marlies backing them up.

We have 2 good goalies on the roster, and you could argue both are starting calibre. Then we have bibeau and sparks on the farm.

Even the forwards are starting to brim with depth in the minors, even though the current forward group isn't the deepest.

Holland - Nylander - Leivo
Brown - Verhaeghe - Johnson
Carrick - Gauthier - McKegg

these are all guys we probably want to be giving nhl shots to sooner or later.


we can afford to trade a pretty good player or two for Staal, and be able to replace the guys we trade with similar calibre talent.

LeafOfFaith
10-24-2014, 10:51 PM
If it's going to happen, I'd really like it if it happened now rather than later.

How annoying will it be to contemplate and consider all the possibilities of trading for Staal and having him in the lineup, and then the ****ing Rangers or some other team swoops in and gets him, despite all the rumors saying he's coming to us.

I'm not going to hold my breath on these yearly trade-watch players anymore.

LeafOfFaith
10-24-2014, 10:53 PM
the good news is that we have some real depth.

we have 7 nhl calibre dmen on the roster, and you could argue that all of them are top-4 calibre. then you have finn, loov, granberg, nilsson on the marlies backing them up.

We have 2 good goalies on the roster, and you could argue both are starting calibre. Then we have bibeau and sparks on the farm.

Even the forwards are starting to brim with depth in the minors, even though the current forward group isn't the deepest.

Holland - Nylander - Leivo
Brown - Verhaeghe - Johnson
Carrick - Gauthier - McKegg

these are all guys we probably want to be giving nhl shots to sooner or later.


we can afford to trade a pretty good player or two for Staal, and be able to replace the guys we trade with similar calibre talent.

One of those forwards should be on the big club now on the wing beside Kadri and Lupul.

Leivo is probably the most deserving and ready at this point.

I'd much rather have him on the second line, Winnik on the fourth, and actually see the fourth line get some minutes.

And don't forget Broll. That guy deserves to be playing now. If they insist on playing Winnik as a top sixer, they really should drop Panik and insert Broll.

JackBurton
10-24-2014, 11:07 PM
We have some depth, but many organizations have more.

zeke
10-24-2014, 11:29 PM
you'd be surprised how few teams have the reigning SHL rookie of the year and reigning chl scoring champ as secondary prospects.

JohnnyHolmes
10-24-2014, 11:45 PM
Maybe you could put something together like:

Kadri, Gardiner, 1st for Eric Staal.

Cojo
10-25-2014, 09:32 AM
:drink

JackBurton
10-25-2014, 09:37 AM
Maybe you could put something together like:

Kadri, Gardiner, 1st for Eric Staal.

The Canes won't get that type of package for Staal from anyone. The pre-hype trade speculation always dwarfs the reality of the trade.

Hoss
10-25-2014, 09:43 AM
I think because Staal has that no trade, he could make it difficult for Carolina to entertain offers.

I also think that they like what they have in Bozak and his relationship with Phil. So Kadri (with his contract coming up) will I think be the main piece. I know Carolina will ask for Gardiner, but I think Nonis et al, will not move him because of what they see. With them being over a barrel a bit, I would love to see them sign Franson to a contract with the intention of trading him... This gives Carolina a signed defenseman with Kadri. Then I'd throw them an AHL prospect. Just like we gave them Tlusty and he had success there. Someone like Leivo. A guy who with a chance could play in the top nine.

Staal for Kadri, Franson, and Leivo

Bozak at his cap hit, and his style of play is an ideal second line centre.

JVR Staal Kessel
Lupul Bozak Bolland/Winnik/Frattin (next year Nylander)
Komorov Santorelli Clarkson
Broll Holland Winnik/Frattin/Ashton I'd also like to see Bodie up. I thought he played a good down low game, and if he were with Broll and Holland, they could be a tough line without being full time goons.

JackBurton
10-25-2014, 09:49 AM
The tricky thing for Eric is, he brought his brother over and they will not end up on the same team. No one is taking both. So it's stay in Carolina or don't play together.

The question of can Jordan score more without Sid and Malkin has been answered. His trade value is in the dumps and contract sucks.

Hoss
10-25-2014, 10:08 AM
yup... there are two possibilities... One that Eric stays with Jordan and they look to rebuild together. OR Eric realizes this wasn't they best idea and moves to Toronto so that he can be closer to mom and pops. Then if Marc wants to leave New York next year, maybe he comes to Toronto for a discount. All this while Jordan is SOL.

My money is that Eric won't mind this season to lose and hopefully rebuild and then Marc joins them in Carolina.

Habsy
10-25-2014, 10:19 AM
Plus if the finish last, which is possible, they'll also have a crack at McDavid.

If Eric, Jordan and ultimately Marc joined the Leafs you'd have to change the name to the Maple Staals anyway and that just doesn't flow off the tongue right.

LeafGm
10-25-2014, 11:05 AM
The Canes won't get that type of package for Staal from anyone. The pre-hype trade speculation always dwarfs the reality of the trade.
Johnny's just trolling. That's the exact same package he repeatedly said the Sens should/would be able to get for Spezza.

Leafin'
10-25-2014, 01:49 PM
I think because Staal has that no trade, he could make it difficult for Carolina to entertain offers.

I also think that they like what they have in Bozak and his relationship with Phil. So Kadri (with his contract coming up) will I think be the main piece. I know Carolina will ask for Gardiner, but I think Nonis et al, will not move him because of what they see. With them being over a barrel a bit, I would love to see them sign Franson to a contract with the intention of trading him... This gives Carolina a signed defenseman with Kadri. Then I'd throw them an AHL prospect. Just like we gave them Tlusty and he had success there. Someone like Leivo. A guy who with a chance could play in the top nine.

Staal for Kadri, Franson, and Leivo

Bozak at his cap hit, and his style of play is an ideal second line centre.

JVR Staal Kessel
Lupul Bozak Bolland/Winnik/Frattin (next year Nylander)
Komorov Santorelli Clarkson
Broll Holland Winnik/Frattin/Ashton I'd also like to see Bodie up. I thought he played a good down low game, and if he were with Broll and Holland, they could be a tough line without being full time goons.

Moving Kadri can be big time hurt feelings if he develops how we hope he will. The media here talks as if 50 points for a 23 year old is awful. I'm torn on moving him. I like Staal quite a bit.

JohnnyHolmes
10-25-2014, 03:28 PM
Johnny's just trolling. That's the exact same package he repeatedly said the Sens should/would be able to get for Spezza.

Exactamundo, except that Ottawa got a better package out of Dallas.

Habspatrol
10-25-2014, 03:37 PM
Exactamundo, except that Ottawa got a better package out of Dallas.

Ummm... didn't the Sens get a whole pile of meh for Spezza?

Leafin'
10-25-2014, 03:44 PM
I don't see anything great that the Sens got back for Spezza. Unless Alex Chiasson blossoms into something great i don't see how this is a great trade.

Habspatrol
10-25-2014, 03:52 PM
Cam Atkinson came close to a very bad injury last night.

http://shnarped.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/atkinsonskate4.png

Luckily it just missed his eye.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0z-MuJIIAAaoA5.jpg:large

zeke
10-25-2014, 03:52 PM
Exactamundo, except that Ottawa got a better package out of Dallas.

heh.

Wayward DP
10-25-2014, 04:07 PM
Johnny's in fine early season form.

Blueman
10-25-2014, 04:29 PM
Moving Kadri can be big time hurt feelings if he develops how we hope he will. The media here talks as if 50 points for a 23 year old is awful. I'm torn on moving him. I like Staal quite a bit.

If we had Staal, would you be torn on trading him for Kadri?

Leafin'
10-25-2014, 05:25 PM
Staal really solidifies our center spot, regardless of who we send out. There is always a variable amount of risk when you trade a 24 year old for a 30 year old. Its pretty clear the status quo in Leafland at the moment is not enough to compete. Shanahan needs to take some chances if he ever wants win a cup.

The Staal scenario is an interesting one because of the Jordan angle. Are they a package deal?

Wayward DP
10-25-2014, 05:55 PM
Staal really solidifies our center spot, regardless of who we send out. There is always a variable amount of risk when you trade a 24 year old for a 30 year old. Its pretty clear the status quo in Leafland at the moment is not enough to compete. Shanahan needs to take some chances if he ever wants win a cup.

The Staal scenario is an interesting one because of the Jordan angle. Are they a package deal?

If they're a package deal, J. Staal's contract is negative value, and will greatly decrease what they can get for Eric. If the Leafs were to acquire both, we'd almost certainly be sending Clarkson the other way.

Leafin'
10-25-2014, 06:04 PM
I thought Clarkson has a NMC? or NTC? If so, no chance he waives.

What about Staals for Kadri + Bozak + Gardiner + Holland? 14 mil for 13ish mill

Wayward DP
10-25-2014, 06:07 PM
Ewww. No.

BeLeafer
10-25-2014, 06:13 PM
If it takes a young player like Kadri or a first to make that deal, passamundo.

Leafin'
10-25-2014, 06:15 PM
LOL

Give of take a few pieces here or there our lines would be:

JVR - Staal - Kessel
Lupul - Staal - Nylander(next year)
Komarov - Santorelli - Clarkson

Staal* - Phaneuf
Rielly - Robidas
Percy - Polak

Bernier
XXXX

I'm pretty sure thats an improved roster to what we have now. Big shake up. I don't see it happening, just different ideas floating around.


It'll be interesting what happens with the recent signings the leafs have done in the front office. Early impressions seem to say that Shanahan will let pieces fall as they may this year to really get a good look at what we have. If we make the playoffs this year it'll be interesting to see what they do with Nonis and Carlyle. We know what will happen if the leafs don't make the playoffs, but what'll happen if they do?

Wayward DP
10-25-2014, 06:15 PM
Staal is an upgrade over Bozak, but I'm not sure J. Staal is much of an upgrade over Kadri on the second line. Plus throw in Gardiner and Holland? And get stuck with Jordan's stupid contract, and then likely a similar one for Marc when he's a FA

MindzEye
10-25-2014, 06:19 PM
If it takes a young player like Kadri or a first to make that deal, passamundo.

It won't, but yeah, this.

There's more than enough in the Leafs cupboard to get a deal done without Kadri, Rielly, Nylander or this year's 1st involved. Though if they insisted on this year's 1st and let us keep Gardiner instead, I'd do it. Bozak + filler salary + 1st. With Staal in house, there's very little chance we finish in the bottom 10.

Wayward DP
10-25-2014, 06:24 PM
It won't, but yeah, this.

There's more than enough in the Leafs cupboard to get a deal done without Kadri, Rielly, Nylander or this year's 1st involved. Though if they insisted on this year's 1st and let us keep Gardiner instead, I'd do it. Bozak + filler salary + 1st. With Staal in house, there's very little chance we finish in the bottom 10.

Yup, look at the packages for guys like Spezza and Kesler in the offseason. Plus Staal has a NTC so he can handcuff the Canes to an extent, and all reports are he won't ask to leave.

Honestly Bozak + Gardiner alone seems like a pretty steep price to pay given the market. Not saying I wouldn't do it, but I'm not sure Staal will cost that much in the end.

Leafin'
10-25-2014, 06:32 PM
This board has a big boner for Gardiner it seems. I like the skillset, but he has not improved to the level i thought he would. With Phaneuf, Percy, and Rielly on the left side, where does that leave Gardiner? Obviously we don't move him unless its for a better player.

Inconsistent with a great skillset. Franson is another. Too many work in progress defenders on this team. No stability. Each pairing has a guy that is learning on the job or sucks(Franson).

BeLeafer
10-25-2014, 06:38 PM
This board has a big boner for Gardiner it seems. I like the skillset, but he has not improved to the level i thought he would. With Phaneuf, Percy, and Rielly on the left side, where does that leave Gardiner? Obviously we don't move him unless its for a better player.

Inconsistent with a great skillset. Franson is another. Too many work in progress defenders on this team. No stability. Each pairing has a guy that is learning on the job or sucks(Franson).

Franson is clearly a guy with low hockey IQ ... never want guys like that on the blueline.

However, with Gardiner, I just don't know what we have. He has shown he can totally dominate a game from the backend. But we just don't know if his struggles are the product of being coached by Carlyle. I think that's a very real possibility, so I'm not keen on having him traded -- regardless of the return -- at this stage. His potential value his quite large relative to today, whether on the roster or as a trade asset.

TimHorton
10-25-2014, 06:40 PM
Yep agreed with Reefer on this one, I need to see Jake away from Randy before we move him. Sadly I suspect we lose Jake first.

BeLeafer
10-25-2014, 06:41 PM
It won't, but yeah, this.

There's more than enough in the Leafs cupboard to get a deal done without Kadri, Rielly, Nylander or this year's 1st involved. Though if they insisted on this year's 1st and let us keep Gardiner instead, I'd do it. Bozak + filler salary + 1st. With Staal in house, there's very little chance we finish in the bottom 10.

If it can be some combination of Bozak, Franson, Reimer + a secondary futures asset or assets (i.e., not a first or top end prospect), I'm good. I'll be shocked if the current regime gives up the first (unless they have another coming in from somewhere else).

Leafin'
10-25-2014, 06:46 PM
I'm pretty sure one more average season from Gardiner will absolutely destroy the value he has. He will be 25 years old on a 4 million dollar deal for another 4 years providing average output. the drawback of trading him is obviously him fulfilling some of that potential we see every now and again.

We have a solid group of prospects looking to make noise in the next few years on defense. If we move a guy like Kadri, we really have nothing in the system.

Metalleaf
10-27-2014, 01:21 PM
Andi Petrillo
Penguins d-man Olli Maatta scheduled to undergo surgery next week to remove a tumor from his neck that could be a low-grade thyroid cancer.

hockeylover
10-27-2014, 01:32 PM
Andi Petrillo
Penguins d-man Olli Maatta scheduled to undergo surgery next week to remove a tumor from his neck that could be a low-grade thyroid cancer.

Ah, too bad. I'm sure hearing cancer is always scary - luckily thyroid cancer is so easily treatable.

Habspatrol
10-29-2014, 09:07 PM
Someone make sure Corky has no sharp objects near by. Luckily this wasn't a goal against the Habs that was waived off for goaltender interference.

https://vine.co/v/OMtaKOUJVdh

worm
10-30-2014, 11:12 AM
Babcock and Peeair interview in the second period was funny.

LeafGm
10-30-2014, 11:14 AM
Babcock and Peeair interview in the second period was funny.
Did Pee-air try to cop a feel?

Metalleaf
10-30-2014, 03:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1ODogkCQAE744f.jpg

Wayward DP
10-30-2014, 07:15 PM
Haha, that's a good one.

Metalleaf
10-31-2014, 01:34 AM
That Burrows elbow to Emelin must have La Belle Provence up in arms.

Habspatrol
10-31-2014, 10:57 AM
That Burrows elbow to Emelin must have La Belle Provence up in arms.

Yeah I'm pretty sure that Burrows will get at least a couple games. It was way late and he really went out of his way rather than just "finishing his check."

The fact that a goal happened just after the play when it should have been blown dead was definitely a little extra salt in the wound.

http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2410230/jffcxi1.0.gif

MyNameIsJonas
10-31-2014, 11:34 AM
Yeah Burrows should get game(s) for that, but it did look a little to me that Emelin was moving oddly before he got it.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-31-2014, 12:03 PM
Someone make sure Corky has no sharp objects near by. Luckily this wasn't a goal against the Habs that was waived off for goaltender interference.

https://vine.co/v/OMtaKOUJVdh
Im more interested in his view on how we were called on a pick play in OT but Canucks got away with two glaring ones during the ensuing power play.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-31-2014, 12:05 PM
That Burrows elbow to Emelin must have La Belle Provence up in arms.
I admit I didn't see it, i was too angry at the giveaway then saw Emelin on the ice during the 2 on 1. Wehave told me Sportsnet said nothing about. I watched the RDS feed when I got home, they were choked.

hockeylover
10-31-2014, 12:05 PM
Holy crap. As if Habs fans needed more reasons to bitch about the refs over here, thanks Cork.

corksens
10-31-2014, 12:08 PM
I love how now I'm expected to watch every minute of Habs games to give commentary on potentially bad or missed calls.

All because I said I've seen Price get the benefit of too many nonsense phantom interference calls...

corksens
10-31-2014, 12:08 PM
I admit I didn't see it, i was too angry at the giveaway then saw Emelin on the ice during the 2 on 1. Wehave told me Sportsnet said nothing about. I watched the RDS feed when I got home, they were choked.WHAT? You missed something in a game. How is that possible?

Habspatrol
10-31-2014, 12:10 PM
Holy crap. As if Habs fans needed more reasons to bitch about the refs over here, thanks Cork.

I won't speak for anyone else but I rarely bitch about officiating. Last night was pretty gross though.

As a rule I think the Habs come out about even on good/bad calls. Which is why I argue with Cork and his ridiculous stance that the Habs get all the beneficial calls on goal/non goals.

Habspatrol
10-31-2014, 12:11 PM
I love how now I'm expected to watch every minute of Habs games to give commentary on potentially bad or missed calls.

All because I said I've seen Price get the benefit of too many nonsense phantom interference calls...
Except you've only ever shown one example of a phantom interference call in the Habs favour.

corksens
10-31-2014, 12:12 PM
Price vs Ottawa, Tampa, Detroit.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-31-2014, 12:18 PM
WHAT? You missed something in a game. How is that possible?
0/10

Unlike you I follow the puck.

TheCountofMonteCristo
10-31-2014, 12:19 PM
Price vs Ottawa, Tampa, Detroit.
They were interference in latter two. Whether should be penalized is a different argument.

Habspatrol
10-31-2014, 01:14 PM
Price vs Ottawa, Tampa, Detroit.

The ones against the Wings and Lightning were the right call.... the rule may be stupid and we may not like it... but they were called correctly.

Habsy
11-02-2014, 05:44 PM
I am slowly coming to terms with the fact that officials are egotistical ****wads with God complexes.

BeLeafer
11-02-2014, 07:41 PM
Habs getting dominated by the injury-depleted Calgary Flames.

BeLeafer
11-02-2014, 07:50 PM
First period shots ...

Calgary: 19
Habs: 4

Did you kidnap Carlyle?

Habsy
11-02-2014, 07:50 PM
Rope a dope. Got em right where we want em. Shocked that none of the Habs 4 shots went in.

BeLeafer
11-02-2014, 09:13 PM
If the Flames had a powerplay, this would have been a serious blowout.

BeLeafer
11-02-2014, 09:16 PM
Hold on ... PK blows a tire, inching closer to blowout territory.

Deckie007
11-02-2014, 11:18 PM
Unexpected injuries to Frederik Andersen earlier in the day and John Gibson just minutes before Sunday's game have resulted in the ultimate doomsday scenario for the Ducks. Jason LaBarbera was recalled from AHL Norfolk to make the start for the Ducks, his third in as many days after manning the net for the minor league squad Friday and Saturday. As a result, the 45-year-old Roloson will take a temporary hiatus from his duties as the Ducks' goaltending consultant to don the pads for the first time since the 2010-11 season with the Lightning. He figures to be available for just Sunday's contest, as the Ducks are expected to recall a younger, unretired goalie from the minor league ranks if Gibson and Andersen are both forced to miss Wednesday's tilt with the Islanders

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1et5DnIcAEAAIN.jpg

(Don't put me in, don't put me in, oh god please let there be no injuries)

MindzEye
11-03-2014, 09:10 AM
Hold on ... PK blows a tire, inching closer to blowout territory.

All I'm gonna say about this, is that if something similar happened to Dion, it would be running on a loop as people used it as an example for how he's not a #1 defender.


Happens to a former Norris winner and never will a peep be ****ing heard in the city of Toronto about it...because elite defenders don't make mistakes like that, or so I've been told.

zeke
11-03-2014, 09:23 AM
Subban makes mistakes like that all the time.

He would be crucified in this city.

Metalleaf
11-03-2014, 10:51 AM
But then it would be racist.

Habspatrol
11-03-2014, 07:15 PM
Subban makes mistakes like that all the time.

He would be crucified in this city.

Oh Hab fans definitely crucify PK for his mistakes too. He was awful yesterday.

leafman101
11-04-2014, 11:38 AM
http://giant.gfycat.com/UnequaledKindlyKoala.gif

leafman101
11-04-2014, 11:38 AM
That patience to wait out Lundqvist's pad is ridiculous.

Metalleaf
11-04-2014, 11:55 AM
Not Lundqvist, it was Cam Talbot.

zeke
11-04-2014, 12:08 PM
it's always cool seeing someone pull out the forsberg move in a real game situation but that goal's getting a little too hyped imo. the defense (led by a bizarre blueline diving superman pokecheck attempt by one Mike Kostka, followed by two standing still one armed stick waves by Nash and Delzotto) is fairly hilarious on the play, and then again as sweet as the finish move is its not like we haven't seen it before.

leafman101
11-04-2014, 12:09 PM
Doesn't matter who. To be flying in full speed like that, with 3 guys coming to you from behind, and have the wherewithal to take the extra second to wait for the goalie to slide over enough to open the net is just nuts.

In slow motion its hard to believe.

zeke
11-04-2014, 12:12 PM
oh wait that's not delzotto. he's on philly now. what is that name there? macleod?

hairnova
11-04-2014, 12:36 PM
McIlrath.

zeke
11-04-2014, 12:51 PM
ah good old McIlraith, yet another top-10 draft pick wasted on a "physical defensive dman". nhl teams are so stupid.

Metalleaf
11-04-2014, 02:21 PM
My first thought after saying "holy shit" was "Man, I can't wait to see Nylander doing that"

Metalleaf
11-04-2014, 03:17 PM
Pierre LeBrun
Hearing that Tomas Kaberle will skate/practice with Rangers. Not signing him at this point. Will take a look at him... see where it goes

LeafGm
11-04-2014, 03:37 PM
I hope he makes it. Kabby's only got 16 games to go before he hits the 1000 game mark. It'd be nice to see him hit that milestone.

BG
11-04-2014, 04:35 PM
oh wait that's not delzotto. he's on philly now. what is that name there? macleod?

It was a powerplay goal, "defended" by Kostka, McIlrath, Nash and Glass - and scored on New York's backup.

Agree, nice goal - but it was given every opportunity to succeed.

Metalleaf
11-04-2014, 04:42 PM
Mario Lemieux only deked out Shawn Chambers...no biggie.

MindzEye
11-05-2014, 02:25 PM
Apparently Rutherford has never learned his lesson.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=737893



The Pittsburgh Penguins have re-signed goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury to a four-year contract extension, it was announced today by executive vice president and general manager Jim Rutherford.

The deal begins with the 2015-16 season and runs through the 2018-19 campaign, and has an average annual value of $5.75 million.

"I believe in Marc-Andre Fleury, as the team does," said Rutherford, a former goaltender. "He's won before and he will win again. We're very pleased to have him signed long term."

MindzEye
11-05-2014, 02:29 PM
Mario Lemieux only deked out Shawn Chambers...no biggie.

Yeah, but Lemieux also made Ray Bourque look ridiculous this one time too....

zeke
11-05-2014, 02:30 PM
Fleury gets too much flack. He's a solid average goalie.

2014-15 (min 5gms);

1. J.Quick .942
2. F.Anderson .941
3. C.Anderson .939
4. C.Crawford .938
5. J.Hiller .935
6. R.Luongo .932
7. M.Fleury .931
8. P.Rinne .931
9. J.Howard .928
10. S.Varlamov .925
11. P.Pavelec .924
12. A.Niemi .923
13. D.Kuemper .922
14. B.Elliott .920
15. J.Bernier .917
16. R.Miller .917
17. B.Bishop .912
18. C.Schneider .912
19. S.Bobrovksy .908
20. J.Enroth .908
21. C.Price .907
22. T.Rask .906
23. K.Lehtonen .904
24. H.Lundqvist .902
25. S.Mason .901
26. B.Scrivens .897
27. J.Halak .891
28. B.Holtby .891
29. C.Ward .886
30. M.Smith .880


This year + Last year:

1. F.Anderson .927
2. T.Rask .927
3. S.Varlamov .927
4. C.Price .924
5. B.Bishop .923
6. J.Bernier .922
7. B.Elliott .922
8. J.Quick .922
9. S.Bobrovsky .921
10. R.Luongo .921
11. C.Crawford .921
12. C.Schneider .919
13. H.Lundqvist .918
14. R.Miller .918
15. M.Fleury .917
16. J.Halak .917
17. K.Lehtonen .917
18. B.Scrivens .917
19. D.Kuemper .916
20. J.Hiller .915
21. S.Mason .915
22. C.Anderson .914
23. A.Niemi .914
24. J.Howard .913
25. B.Holtby .912
26. P.Rinne .911
27. M.Smith .911
28. J.Enroth .910
29. O.Pavelec .904
30. C.Ward .896


3yrs:

1. F.Anderson .927
2. T.Rask .927
3. S.Bobrovsky .925
4. J.Bernier .922
5. B.Bishop .922
6. C.Schneider .922
7. C.Anderson .921
8. C.Crawford .921
9. H.Lundqvist .921
10. S.Varlamov .920
11. R.Luongo .918
12. A.Niemi .918
13. C.Price .918
14. M.Fleury .917
15. J.Howard .917
16. K.Lehtonen .917
17. R.Miller .917
18. B.Scrivens .917
19. B.Elliott .916
20. D.Kuemper .916
21. S.Mason .916
22. B.Holtby .915
23. J.Quick .915
24. J.Halak .914
25. J.Hiller .914
26. J.Enroth .912
27. M.Smith .911
28. P.Rinne .910
29. O.Pavelec .905
30. C.Ward .900

zeke
11-05-2014, 02:32 PM
Mario Lemieux only deked out Shawn Chambers...no biggie.

well, thing is, Tarasenko didn't really deke any of those rangers, he just skated through them.

and the move on the goalie was nice but it's not like we've never seen it before.

reminds me of all the hype around hertl's goal last year.

corksens
11-05-2014, 02:40 PM
Care to post a vid of a goal from last year that you do get excited about?

MindzEye
11-05-2014, 02:41 PM
Fleury gets too much flack. He's a solid average goalie.


Isn't he the exact type of goalie you say that should never, ever get "paid"?

MyNameIsJonas
11-05-2014, 03:02 PM
I think Rutherford improved here.

I expected him to trade Kris Letang for Cam Ward.

number17
11-05-2014, 03:10 PM
MAF is a very average goalie and he has, over the past, also caved under pressure in big games.

So if PIT decides to stick with the guy they picked and developed, and his mediocrity - so be it. But to overpay for it, that's a "Rutherford special".

Habspatrol
11-05-2014, 08:28 PM
This deal will make him the 13th highest paid goalie in the league next year, provided someone doesn't sign for more. He's only overpaid in the way that all players are "overpaid."

CTheBigPicture
11-05-2014, 08:38 PM
The complaint shouldn't be about the term of the deal. It should be able the type of player they just committed to 'given the fact that they have a dream scenario at Centre with Crosby and Malkin'. There is no rebuilding, or trying to win one in the next four seasons; they HAVE to win one. Is MAF the right guy?

MindzEye
11-05-2014, 08:43 PM
This deal will make him the 13th highest paid goalie in the league next year, provided someone doesn't sign for more. He's only overpaid in the way that all players are "overpaid."
You don't lock players like that up long term.

BeLeafer
11-05-2014, 10:19 PM
Buffalo all over the Habs in OT ... man.

Habsy
11-05-2014, 10:29 PM
Yeah like that's hard to do lately.

Habsy
11-05-2014, 10:30 PM
PAP just smeared Barfalo in SO.

BeLeafer
11-05-2014, 10:31 PM
Squeaked that one out. They are looking very iffy. Probably end up scraping it out with the Leafs for the final playoff spot.

Habsy
11-05-2014, 10:35 PM
They are struggling right now for sure. These points they keep squeaking out are preventing effective change and it bugs me. We need another top 6 winger and a second pair D man. Bottom 6 is okay.

Still some holes to fill. That and they really miss Gerard Gallant. Since he split to Florida their PP has gone shitsville.

MindzEye
11-05-2014, 10:57 PM
Montreal was lucky to get points in that. If Buffalo had any skill in their lineup, they win 2-0 or 3-0.

Watching Montreal play made me feel a bit better about watching the Leafs this season.

LeafGm
11-06-2014, 04:25 PM
According to NHL chief operating officer John Collins, it looks like we'll be able to look foward to seeing the Leafs sport beauties like these at some point in the future:

http://i.imgur.com/OrUgviE.jpg


Ads could soon appear on NHL teams' jerseys.

NHL chief operating officer John Collins said in an interview posted Thursday by Sports Business Daily that jersey sponsorship is "coming and happening," though he didn't give any details or a timeframe for when the move may occur.

The practice is already common with European professional hockey teams, though none of the four major North American pro leagues currently allow sponsorship on their jerseys during the regular season, if you don't count the logos of the companies that make the apparel.

NFL teams are allowed to place advertising patches on their practice shirts, and the NBA is also considering allowing ads on its jerseys in the regular season, with commissioner Adam Silver calling it "inevitable" within the next five years as the league looks to increase its revenues.

Collins also confirmed in the interview with Sports Business Daily that the NHL is testing technology that would allow broadcasters to digitally replace the ads on the boards at arenas with signage tailored to their audience.

Metalleaf
11-06-2014, 04:30 PM
It won't be that bad...it will be like what the CFL has.

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/2012/07/18/rickyray_4671-430x298.jpg

Deckie007
11-06-2014, 05:05 PM
I guess I should buy some more jerseys before they ruin them.

CH1
11-06-2014, 07:45 PM
Not that my $150 matters but I'll never wear an NHL jersey with a McDonalds, Walmart or similar logo.

Leafyblue
11-06-2014, 08:44 PM
I'm pretty sure the jersey you buy wouldn't have advertising on them...but it would be great if some teams said...screw that...and stayed true to the team colours. The Leafs should for sure since they have more money than God as it is.

KingTucker
11-06-2014, 10:09 PM
Some dude on Icethetics did all the teams.

http://static.squarespace.com/static/5007b2ea84aef6ab9cd08134/541f57e4e4b042b085c5ad0b/541f57f1e4b0462bd0f2be8c/1411340274899/tor.png?format=1500w

http://static.squarespace.com/static/5007b2ea84aef6ab9cd08134/541f57e4e4b042b085c5ad0b/541f57eae4b0462bd0f2be6c/1411340268724/mtl.png?format=1500w

http://static.squarespace.com/static/5007b2ea84aef6ab9cd08134/541f57e4e4b042b085c5ad0b/541f57ede4b0d5fed947a041/1411340272005/ott.png?format=1500w

Leafs one looks least vomit-inducing. Here are the rest:
http://www.icethetics.co/concepts/2014/9/21/nhl-soccer-crossover?rq=soccer

BeLeafer
11-06-2014, 10:50 PM
I'm pretty sure the jersey you buy wouldn't have advertising on them...but it would be great if some teams said...screw that...and stayed true to the team colours. The Leafs should for sure since they have more money than God as it is.

Nah, they'll be forced to do it and then give all the money to the Bettman southern franchises (and the Devils).

MindzEye
11-07-2014, 12:03 AM
Being on the replica jerseys sold in stores will 100% be part of the deal, just watch.

I will never own another jersey that isn't a throwback if that happens.

MyNameIsJonas
11-07-2014, 01:07 AM
As someone who's collected over 100 jerseys in his life, this would force me to stop.

BeLeafer
11-08-2014, 03:36 PM
Chris JohnstonVerified account ‏@reporterchris

The #LAKings will only have five defencemen vs. #canucks tomorrow because they are short $160 in cap space to call someone up. What a world.

#capmanagement

Leafin'
11-08-2014, 03:46 PM
Was looking at team rosters, and i was looking at Buffalo's roster. I didn't remember when they resigned Matt Moulson, but i remember him being on a lot of folks 2nd lines. This bum signed for 5 million per season and has a grand total of 3 points. FAIL.

And boy is it nice to see Josh Gorges playing with the absolute garbage that is the Buffalo Sabres. Suck it you scum.

CaptainBolduke
11-08-2014, 04:02 PM
Squeaked that one out. They are looking very iffy. Probably end up scraping it out with the Leafs for the final playoff spot.

Hahah

Habspatrol
11-08-2014, 05:03 PM
And boy is it nice to see Josh Gorges playing with the absolute garbage that is the Buffalo Sabres. Suck it you scum.

He really didn't have very good options.

Leafin'
11-08-2014, 05:09 PM
He really didn't have very good options.

Good. I don't feel bad for him at all. Deserved it after denying a trade here. I don't care for rivalry or whatever his excuse was. If Doug Gilmour can play for the Leafs and the habs in his career, this plug can as well.

Cries about loyalty to a franchise that dumps him for peanuts, and then gets to play in the armpit of North America on the worst team in the NHL. Good for him.

That being said, he was the type of defender this team needed in the offseason. A younger version of Robidas.

MindzEye
11-08-2014, 05:13 PM
Good. I don't feel bad for him at all. Deserved it after denying a trade here. I don't care for rivalry or whatever his excuse was. If Doug Gilmour can play for the Leafs and the habs in his career, this plug can as well.

Cries about loyalty to a franchise that dumps him for peanuts, and then gets to play in the armpit of North America on the worst team in the NHL. Good for him.

That being said, he was the type of defender this team needed in the offseason. A younger version of Robidas.

+1

No sympathy for him. Enjoy Buffalo.

BeLeafer
11-08-2014, 05:15 PM
We should be thankful he did that. Franson is putting in a much better season than last and his trade value should be higher than getting a Georges, upcoming UFA status notwithstanding.

Habspatrol
11-08-2014, 05:17 PM
Good. I don't feel bad for him at all. Deserved it after denying a trade here. I don't care for rivalry or whatever his excuse was. If Doug Gilmour can play for the Leafs and the habs in his career, this plug can as well.

Cries about loyalty to a franchise that dumps him for peanuts, and then gets to play in the armpit of North America on the worst team in the NHL. Good for him.

That being said, he was the type of defender this team needed in the offseason. A younger version of Robidas.

If he thought Buffalo was going to be a good team this year then he's full potato.

Bleedsblue&white
11-08-2014, 05:52 PM
Around the CFL League...I find myself watching this Alouette/TiCat game pretty intently.

Didn't know I still cared. Arrrrrgooooos!

MyNameIsJonas
11-08-2014, 08:30 PM
Crosby 5 assists on 5 Pitt goals in romping of Buffalo.

JackBurton
11-08-2014, 08:35 PM
Holy shit Buffalo looks bad.

MyNameIsJonas
11-08-2014, 09:45 PM
Seguin with a hatty on 3 Dallas goals

Deckie007
11-08-2014, 09:49 PM
Thank you Eriksson?

JackBurton
11-08-2014, 10:18 PM
I'm so thankful Boston made such a stupid trade.

Remember when people said wait till Eastern hockey fans see Erikkson? He's the NHL's most underrated player.

Volcanologist
11-08-2014, 10:23 PM
yeah, the Seguin stuff is all on Boston now. And they knew what they were giving up.

zeke
11-08-2014, 10:33 PM
Remember when people said wait till Eastern hockey fans see Erikkson? He's the NHL's most underrated player.

yet another player we were assured was much better than the one dimensional Kessel.

JackBurton
11-08-2014, 10:35 PM
yeah, the Seguin stuff is all on Boston now. And they knew what they were giving up.

Yup. Unlike Toronto, they had him on their team and he posted a 60 point season as a 19 year-old.

The Boston "Code" is getting g laughable. Who cares if he liked to get drunk and have fun?