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Montana
11-07-2015, 09:06 PM
*** Trade Announcement ***


Montana Trades:

RP Keone Kela
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/469103424-keone-kela-of-the-texas-rangers-pitches-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QUZTMzWEm46YwSLZmgM3unpcBH5E ygi1Gt7orFzV6Cq0ZsxB6gFmmwq%2Fr9Cpyay9ZA%3D%3D

RP Hunter Strickland
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/456607106-hunter-strickland-of-the-san-francisco-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7Qd59as82Hqsn48rPxs%2BwBoJxYT xtNjx3409ZyfWyrtol

2B Jose Peraza
http://www.insidesocal.com/dodgers/files/2015/08/Jose-Peraza-running.jpg




Hairnova Trades:

SS JP Crawford
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/434/821/hi-res-7439656_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

hairnova
11-07-2015, 09:09 PM
Yup... and I also threw in Cory Rasmus.

Had a hard time dealing Crawford, but already have Correa and needed to upgrade my roster elsewhere.

braby21
11-08-2015, 12:32 AM
la esquina caliente trades a 2017 3rd Round Draft Pick

hairnova trades SP Kyle Hendricks

hairnova
11-08-2015, 09:56 AM
Confirmed.

Montana
11-08-2015, 01:34 PM
*** Trade Announcement ***


Montana Trades:

SP James Shields
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/James+Shields+San+Diego+Padres+Photo+Day+h_ZH3qxef sZl.jpg

RF Marlon Byrd
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/06/25/Byrd-says-Conte-not-to-blame-for-ban-P71OD7K1-x-large.jpg




Jonas Trades:

RF Jorge Soler
https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/zck1Bk4nOq_ZkeCUbWn5q8jo8mU=/0x717:2649x2483/730x487/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/45816560/usa-today-8416350.0.jpg

axlsalinger
11-08-2015, 02:28 PM
Is today April 1st?

Please tell me today is April 1st.

MindzEye
11-08-2015, 03:15 PM
Is today April 1st?

Please tell me today is April 1st.

Meh, depends on how you feel about Soler. Great tools, but almost 24 yrs old and terrible strike zone command. Looking like another Javier Baez tbh....absolutely demolished AAA pitching that can't throw quality strikes with their breaking pitches, but unable to square up MLB pitching enough to translate all those tools into production.

axlsalinger
11-08-2015, 03:44 PM
Still has massive upside and is miles ahead of Baez IMO. Then there's the "package" going the other way, a rapidly declining SP and a bench outfielder. I wouldn't have traded Soler for that package if it also included a 1st round pick.

MindzEye
11-08-2015, 04:01 PM
Miles ahead of Baez? No.

1 yr older with slightly better control of the strike zone.

Both will need huge adjustments to become even a fraction of what the hype suggested was possible 18 months ago.

Deckie007
11-08-2015, 04:13 PM
I like Soler a lot but yeah he K's a shitload and doesn't walk a whole lot. He did in the minors but hasn't figured it out in MLB yet. He's a risky play, but Bill can take that risk with his roster.

Habspatrol
11-08-2015, 04:57 PM
Still has massive upside and is miles ahead of Baez IMO. Then there's the "package" going the other way, a rapidly declining SP and a bench outfielder. I wouldn't have traded Soler for that package if it also included a 1st round pick.

Sheilds:
2014: 9.92 fppg
2015: 9.49 fppg

We may have differing definitions of "rapidly declining."

Seems like solid value for Soler. Get a good pitcher and a depth bat for a guy who may become a stud, but as pointed out, he may be quite meh. He's far from a bluechipper at this point.

Good trade for both teams... Montana turns a couple older assets into a potential stud.

axlsalinger
11-09-2015, 02:58 PM
*** Trade Announcement ***



AXLSALINGER TRADES:



Mark Teixeira


http://i.imgur.com/fKJVDol.jpg




HAIRNOVA TRADES:



Jose Peraza


http://i.imgur.com/SmP6Rs4.jpg



2016 3rd Round Pick (GH)

hairnova
11-09-2015, 02:58 PM
Confirmed.

braby21
11-09-2015, 03:12 PM
Jose Peraza = town bike

Deckie007
11-09-2015, 05:38 PM
Starting to feel left out with all these trades going down

Metalleaf
11-09-2015, 06:04 PM
Willing to listen on anyone on my roster other than Stroman, Wacha, Walker, and Rodon.

Matrim
11-09-2015, 06:51 PM
Starting to feel left out with all these trades going down

Same here, fully willing but deals just haven't come through yet.

Habspatrol
11-09-2015, 06:59 PM
Same here, fully willing but deals just haven't come through yet.

That happens when you ask about players and the guy responds then you never reply.

Matrim
11-09-2015, 07:09 PM
That happens when you ask about players and the guy responds then you never reply.

Haha fair enough, reply sent.

Montana
11-09-2015, 07:14 PM
This league is the best I've ever been involved with, in part because virtually every single manager is making trades, contacting one another about possible deals, working the waiver wire, etc etc.....

Specifically, I love that there's even tons of smaller deals for non-blue chips prospects, or deals just involving bench bats/arms, simple "player for 5th round pick" type swaps......pretty much everyone is involved to the level that we see lots of basic deals, that kind of mimic what we see in the majors.


Love it.

Habspatrol
11-09-2015, 07:23 PM
You're drunk, go home.

Montana
11-09-2015, 07:43 PM
You're home, go drunk.

Montana
11-12-2015, 12:19 PM
*** Trade Announcement ***


Montana Trades:

Jorge Lopez
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/HG1bjKG4bNRYRX97HRcEgxN9aJw=/0x0:2240x1493/730x487/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/47295558/usa-today-8833367.0.jpg

Jacob Nottingham
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/3/4/8/129900348/cuts/Nottingham_cjidte9o_l7ayf70i.png

Christian Arroyo
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Christian+Arroyo+San+Francisco+Giants+Photo+HnkeA5 Hz3ICl.jpg

Nelson Gomez
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000f.7z4EniOSg/s/600/600/INST-092314-0203-MJ.jpg


Mindz Trades:

Masahiro Tanaka
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2014/0709/20140709_032705_tanaka.jpg

MindzEye
11-12-2015, 02:28 PM
Done deal

MindzEye
11-12-2015, 02:29 PM
Trade Announcement


M.e Trades:

Ian Kennedy

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/01/7656510.jpg


Matrim Trades:

3rd Round Pick (Matrim - 2016)

Matrim
11-12-2015, 02:30 PM
Yup, deal.

MindzEye
11-12-2015, 04:07 PM
And the firesale continues:


Mindz trades:

King Felix

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/fn-latino/sports/660/371/FELIX%20HERNANDEZ%20WINS.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Matrim trades:

Jose De Leon

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/5/7/2/122669572/cuts/deleon960_3azwnz0g_l4ptily3.jpg

Robert Stephenson

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/9/1/4/55255914/cuts/Robert_Stephenson_3es4c5cg_kyrb5ibi.jpg

Brandon Nimmo

http://www.baseballessential.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/brandon-nimmo.jpg

Dalton Pompey

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nXedGKoxodI/VFjnCZzXFMI/AAAAAAAAIbw/LKX1Hh5ZDzg/s1600/Pompey.jpg

Matrim
11-12-2015, 04:08 PM
Confirmed.

Montana
11-12-2015, 04:10 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/lUUelakXjN5Qc/giphy.gif

Matrim
11-12-2015, 04:14 PM
Trade Announcement:

Matrim Trades:

Wilmer Flores

http://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Wilmer-Flores-Crying.jpg

Stubby Clapp Trades:

K-Rod

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/black-sports-online-krod-to-the-orioles-300x211.jpg

Matrim
11-12-2015, 04:25 PM
Trade Announcement

Matrim Trades:

Michael Taylor

https://www.washingtonpost.com/express/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Michael-Taylor.jpg

Scott Schebler

http://www.h4-entertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/unnamed.jpg

2nd Round Pick (Matrim)

Metalleaf Trades:

A.J. Pollock

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/003/658/941/hi-res-cd23c7ea514a7c7a4a134e721b25ae68_crop_north.jpg?w= 630&h=420&q=75

MindzEye
11-12-2015, 04:28 PM
Sweet jeebus. Matrim is having a bit of a go, isn't he?

Metalleaf
11-12-2015, 04:28 PM
Agreed...but I would have gone with this pick for Pollock

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/x.mv8LTjG6Av1t2BxwOMQA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1O3c9NjMw/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusfantasyexperts/agumbray.jpg

Matrim
11-12-2015, 04:29 PM
Haha yeah I almost put that one.

Matrim
11-12-2015, 04:31 PM
Sweet jeebus. Matrim is having a bit of a go, isn't he?

Yeah felt like it was time. Hopefully I'm right about some of the guys I'm building around.

It's been a fun few hours.

Montana
11-12-2015, 04:32 PM
Sweet jeebus. Matrim is having a bit of a go, isn't he?

I was super impressed when he'd added Felix & Kennedy to his rotation.....then within 15 minutes he topped it by adding Pollock & K-Rod.

Homeboy is going H.A.M.

MindzEye
11-12-2015, 04:34 PM
Here I was, figuring that my firesale would be the talk of the league.....not so ****ing much though, apparently.

Metalleaf
11-12-2015, 04:36 PM
Maybe you should fiddle while Rome burns.

Deckie007
11-12-2015, 04:39 PM
I was super impressed when he'd added Felix & Kennedy to his rotation.....then within 15 minutes he topped it by adding Pollock & K-Rod.

Homeboy is going H.A.M.
This thread went all http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/mzimmy_2006/Shocked-Troy-Walks-Into-Fire-With-Pizza-Community_zps32bdcab5.gif

Montana
11-12-2015, 04:42 PM
Here I was, figuring that my firesale would be the talk of the league.....not so ****ing much though, apparently.

Re: your two trades....I think it's gonna be real interesting to look back in 2-3 years and compare how all those pieces stack up value wise.

Between those two trades you basically traded two loonies for eight quarters.....but I think 3-4 of those quarters have a real strong upside with a solid chance of reaching it.....if you hit on 2 of the 8 reaching their full potential, it'll have been worthwhile.

axlsalinger
11-12-2015, 04:44 PM
Wowsers! Crazy activity today, definitely some very interesting trades.

toddcubitt
11-12-2015, 04:59 PM
Ummm... Wow... It's a little late but I'd like to confirm the K-Rod for Flores deal.

Jesus Christ Matrim... nice afternoon. What are you going to do for the rest of the offseason?

Habspatrol
11-12-2015, 09:12 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Habspatrol Trades:

David Price
http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/sports/bluejays/2015/07/31/blue-jays-happy-to-meet-david-prices-popcorn-demands/price.jpg.size.xxlarge.promo.jpg
"bye"

Bull Trades:

Matt Carpenter
http://archive.ksdk.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/photogallery/362598/matt-carpenter.JPG
"hi!"

Deckie007
11-12-2015, 09:16 PM
:lol

Well done.

Montana
11-12-2015, 09:20 PM
Intrigued to hear peoples thoughts on that trade, and which side they prefer.

braby21
11-12-2015, 09:24 PM
Price by a lot for me. Great get for Carpenter IMO.

Habspatrol
11-12-2015, 09:26 PM
Price by a lot for me. Great get for Carpenter IMO.

Crap... I know Montana feels the same. I thought it was a very even deal.

Deckie007
11-12-2015, 09:27 PM
I always prefer acquiring a bat over a SP, but it's David ****ing Price so I have a hard time finding fault. I think it's a excellent deal considering both team's needs.

braby21
11-12-2015, 09:34 PM
If Carpenter has a season like he did in 2015, it's legit. But his power in 2015 could be a big time outlier and his slugging and iso could go back into being below average. I'd be worried about that. Who knows tho! #cantpredictball

Bull
11-12-2015, 09:37 PM
Confirmed.

Habspatrol
11-12-2015, 09:40 PM
If Carpenter has a season like he did in 2015, it's legit. But his power in 2015 could be a big time outlier and his slugging and iso could go back into being below average. I'd be worried about that. Who knows tho! #cantpredictball

Carpenter was also a 2.2 fppg player 3 years ago. I'm banking on 2+ is his norm for the next few years. That's a really good 3B.

Montana
11-12-2015, 09:42 PM
If Carpenter has a season like he did in 2015, it's legit. But his power in 2015 could be a big time outlier and his slugging and iso could go back into being below average. I'd be worried about that. Who knows tho! #cantpredictball


Thing with Carpenter in this format is that he does other things so well, that he doesn't necessarily need the HR's to be valuable....in 2013 for instance he only his 10 HR, yet was a 2.2 FPPG player.


The fact he produces fairly consistently in various categories....be it runs, walks, doubles or HR's....means for the most part he's been pretty elite over the last 3 seasons, now.

Montana
11-12-2015, 09:43 PM
Carpenter was also a 2.2 fppg player 3 years ago. I'm banking on 2+ is his norm for the next few years. That's a really good 3B.



Produced 20 more points than Josh Donaldson that year.

braby21
11-12-2015, 10:05 PM
I'd just be worried he'd turn back to 2014 Carpenter, who slugged .375 and averaged 1.8 and had 285 total.

Price in 2014 was 12.07 and 410 total.

Montana
11-12-2015, 10:07 PM
Yeah for sure.....it's not a deal I could have pulled the trigger on, personally.

Habspatrol
11-12-2015, 10:15 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Habspatrol Trades:

Miguel Cabrera
http://www.myfantasysportstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/3433540_G.jpg

Zack Greinke
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/XhEgO7rZAltC1v9leJ4IAA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPTc1O3c9NjAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en/person/Ysports/zack-greinke-baseball-headshot-photo.jpg

Jason Werth
http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2014/0813/dm_140813_mlb_news_jayson_werth_charged/dm_140813_mlb_news_jayson_werth_charged.jpg

Jonas Trades:

Freddie Freeman
https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2014/04/28/BostonGlobe.com/Sports/Images/b441f69c13ac49d4a6738372214f2004-b441f69c13ac49d4a6738372214f2004-0.jpg

Danny Salazar
http://waitingfornextyear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/danny-salazar.jpg

Stephen Piscotty
http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/91/0917572a-326e-5b19-ab48-fbcb3d1bf976/528bb14791293.preview-620.jpg

braby21
11-12-2015, 10:17 PM
Woah. This league is the best.

Habspatrol
11-12-2015, 10:18 PM
Woah. This league is the best.

I know right.

MyNameIsJonas
11-12-2015, 10:20 PM
yippppeeee

Montana
11-12-2015, 10:33 PM
Starting to feel left out with all these trades going down


How you feel now?.....






https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Astronaut-in-space.jpg/800px-Astronaut-in-space.jpg

Deckie007
11-12-2015, 10:43 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jPaFMIWelaM/UH2icGa5DjI/AAAAAAAAFAQ/PdVxMmRRoQg/s1600/113685686_iDontWantToLiveOnThisPlanetAnymoreLandsc ape_answer_2_xlarge.png

Matrim
11-13-2015, 12:29 AM
Trade Announcement

Matrim Trades:

Andrew Cashner

http://www.theunderdogcardcollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/940x.jpg

D.J. Peterson

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/9/8/6/52971986/cuts/peterson480_2ga9vspq_0abm0rzq.jpg

Habspatrol Trades

https://harperwallbanger.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/carlossantanabaseballplayerclevelandindiansazof5vo-_gql.jpg

Habspatrol
11-13-2015, 12:43 AM
Agreed

hairnova
11-13-2015, 07:32 AM
This league, man.

MindzEye
11-13-2015, 11:11 AM
Trade Announcement


M.e trades:

Jhonny (sp?) Peralta

http://metsmerizedonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Jhonny-Peralta.jpg?6c20df

Ryan Cordell

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/7/9/6/121311796/cuts/Ryan_Cordell_960_x0nmovgx_63c1i7vc.jpg

Deckie trades:

2nd Round Pick (deckie-2017)

Deckie007
11-13-2015, 12:01 PM
Confirmed. Pleased to add Jonny. No Johnny. Wait, Jhonny? Ok then.

braby21
11-13-2015, 02:25 PM
** BLOCKBUSTER ALERT **

la esquina caliente (which is an actual place in Havana where people gather to argue about baseball btw...)

http://rayscottphotos.com/cpg/albums/Cuba/Baseball_Talk.jpg

trades

Prospects Richard Urena (SS) &

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/zF5WOvexLrHJn5lPVQbaQw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1/http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/5053564/455899998.jpg

Rio Ruiz (3B)

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/7/0/8/49526708/cuts/20130603Ruiz480x380_lg1nubnf_rhjxpn6i.jpg

to The Metal Clan

for Erasmo Ramirez (SP)

http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2015/07/ErasmoRamirez_15575730_8col.jpg

Metalleaf
11-13-2015, 02:28 PM
Agreed.

Damn always too slow with the pictures.

Deckie007
11-13-2015, 02:50 PM
Ooh I like that for you, Metal.

Montana
11-14-2015, 02:20 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

Josh Donaldson
http://thumb.usatodaysportsimages.com/image/thumb/650-510nw/8526815.jpg

Edwin Encarnacion
http://www.rantsports.com/fantasy/files/2013/03/Encar.jpg

Stone Garrett
http://fortbendlifestylesandhomes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Stone-Garrett1.gif

Balbino Fuenmayor
http://www.meridiano.com.ve/image_articulos/c1362c80c3080abcb1f1b179b45b0331.jpg

Rhys Hoskins
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/686637374e9cfb36fae25597a8ccd47a2cc890c0/c=50-0-2050-1500&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/06/02/AsburyPark/B9317584637Z.1_20150602201522_000_GJAAVHGNN.1-0.jpg

Chih Wei Hu
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/7/3/6/86490736/cuts/hu_pic_evc33e93_6105nnrb.jpg

Gabriel Guerrero
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/7/0/8/75890708/cuts/guerrero640_r11ag0oo_33l2n3ak.jpg





Bull Trades:

Manny Machado
https://nbchardballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/manny-machado-getty.png

Lucas Giolito
http://nationalsprospects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/lucas-giolito.jpg

Nomar Mazara
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/1/3/6/79205136/cuts/14264356001_9fc9486f79_b_3ektzfxl_wrgmav77.jpg

Bull
11-14-2015, 02:25 PM
Confirmed

Metalleaf
11-14-2015, 03:00 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/51886daa8a10af8e865cc9873949da22/tumblr_inline_mntpxaTRvo1qz4rgp.gif

Habspatrol
11-14-2015, 03:28 PM
Damn... There's been some huge blockbusters.

Great trade for Bull... And Montana Remains the favourite for the foreseeable while extending the longevity of his squad.

Love this deal.

axlsalinger
11-14-2015, 03:50 PM
We should just award Montana the next 10 titles and all start gearing up for 2025.

Habspatrol
11-14-2015, 03:52 PM
Well, his team definitely took a hit in the short term.

axlsalinger
11-14-2015, 03:58 PM
In depth, but he doesn't need a (soon-to-be) declining EE with Goldschmidt at first, and while he did lose the AL MVP, he replaced him with a guy on a direct flight to superstardom.

braby21
11-14-2015, 04:19 PM
We'll find out soon if Manny's first 1100 AB's were who he is or if he was just warming up and took a big leap in 2015. He is only 23... so maybe he takes another step forward. Agree that his team took a short term step back, essentially JD + EE for Manny, but getting the best pitching prospect in the game + another very nice prospect helps. Plus, he just added Tanaka to his already absolutely insane rotation, so he'll probably be just fine.

Assuming Bull's a big Jays fan after his first two trades, haha

But seriously, mind blown. These trades...

Montana
11-14-2015, 05:14 PM
We'll find out soon if Manny's first 1100 AB's were who he is or if he was just warming up and took a big leap in 2015. He is only 23... so maybe he takes another step forward.

Yep, he might be a 2.13 guy....or may regress slightly....or may still take a step forward, but in all likelihood he wont match/surpass Donaldson for a good 3-4 years, and likely never has a season like JD just had.

He also comes with some risk, given hes already had surgeries on both of his kness.

....ultimately tho im hoping for a 2.0-2.2 third baseman for the next 7-8 years, instead of the higher upside 2.2-2.5 JD is liable to have for the next 4-5 years


Agree that his team took a short term step back, essentially JD + EE for Manny.

Yeah; I think people sleep on just how valuable a bat like EE is....having Goldschmidt is great, but with regard to losing EE, it means nothing because I had both in my lineup last year. It's not like PG is replacing him....it's just flat out lost point production from my lineup, that I now have to compensate for.

...and given how easily guys like Pujols, Bautista, Ortiz etc have continued to produce well into their mid-late thirty's; I think its a safe bet EE has quite a few years of elite production still in him.

If he's coming off a 2.2+ season 3 or 4 years from now, I won't be remotely surprised.


Plus, he just added Tanaka to his already absolutely insane rotation, so he'll probably be just fine.

I'm happy to have added Tanaka, but since I dealt Shields it's a relative wash points wise. On the whole, I'm looking at a significant net loss of points, this offseason. While (hopefully) having fortified my future a bit.

I appreciate Axls optimism......but if this deal ends up costing me the title & ~$500....I won't care too much how young Machado is, haha.

End of the day; anyone who felt they had a shot at the podium this year, should be excited......because their chances to win it all, just got significantly better this year & next.....no one moreso than Bull.

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 11:29 AM
Trade Announcement:


M.e Trades:

Carlos Beltran

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1116124/KennedyBeltran.gif.opt.gif


Stubby Trades

2nd Round Pick (2017)

Montana
11-16-2015, 01:35 PM
Thats some solid value for a 38 year old coming off a 1.7+ season.

Nicely done.

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 01:38 PM
I did nothing aside from hit accept. I will take full marks for clever moves when I engineer them, but in this case I did nothing but click my mouse.

Montana
11-16-2015, 01:59 PM
That's the value of using the trade block.....you'll sometimes get offers that you otherwise wouldn't have thought of yourself.

If I had one critique of some managers, I think more of them need to to be making theses kinds of deals.....where theyre picking a direction and going for it....whether its making a run at the podium like Bull, Matrim, Jonas, etc have.....or having a firesale and building for the future like you, b21 and some others have.


Staying in the middle and just letting your old players get older, and thus lose more and more of their value.....is a death sentence for a franchise in this format.

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 02:12 PM
That's the value of using the trade block.....you'll sometimes get offers that you otherwise wouldn't have thought of yourself.

If I had one critique of some managers, I think more of them need to pick a direction and either go for it like Matrim, Bull, Jonas, etc have this offseason....or work towards a rebuild like you have.

Staying in the middle and just letting your old players get older, and thus lose more and more of their value.....is a death sentence for a franchise in this format.

Yep, I feel similar about it, and it's a critique I make regularly when discussing our dynasty hockey leagues with other owners. I find that there's a mushy middle group of owners who will hang on to good players in their early 30's without having a clear path at contendership in front of them, and like you said, simply ride the downward trend in that player's value.

Shit, I remember Zeke chirping me in year 2 when I recognized that I wasn't going to be able to keep up with you and Fergy, so dumped my veterans in a series of deals that landed me Bergeron, Pavelski and other assets. If you're not first, or at minimum legitimately challenging for first, you're last.

Habspatrol
11-16-2015, 04:04 PM
Yeah I'm always surprised at the older players that some non contenders hold onto so tightly.

Matrim
11-16-2015, 04:39 PM
It's frustrating too when you want to trade for those guys and those middle teams just waste good years of productive vets.

Montana
11-16-2015, 05:10 PM
On the flip side, I think some teams grip their prospects too tight for fear they'll one day be uber-mega super stars (let's be honest, we all view our own prospects as if they'll one day reach their full potential, haha)......while maybe overlooking the fact that even if those prospects hit their full potential, it might be well after the talent on your roster has faded from prominence. Meaning you're just mediocre now, and mediocre later.

GH for instance dealt away Byron Buxton in year one to acquire Ian Kinsler.....Buxton, is an elite prospect but he wouldn't have helped GH any of the last 3 years, meanwhile Kinsler has played a role in GH finishing 1st, 2nd and 3rd the last three seasons.....HP similarly traded away Buxton, Sonny Gray, Wacha, etc...but it enabled him leap from 2nd worst, to 2nd overall and take a couple real concerted efforts at a title....


You kind of have to nut up, pick a direction and then be willing to go all in whether it's to win now, or swallowing that hard pill to trade away a Felix Hernandez or a Miguel Cabrera, because you think it's best for your team in the long run.

Montana
11-16-2015, 06:35 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

Aristides Aquino
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/9/3/2/85540932/cuts/aquino_pic_f23mt6n9_du94h93l.jpg

2018 4th Round Pick




Tim Horton Trades:

Kevin Jepsen
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/262/files/2015/08/kevin-jepsen-mlb-houston-astros-minnesota-twins-850x560.jpg

TimHorton
11-16-2015, 06:36 PM
:thumbsup(22):

MindzEye
11-16-2015, 07:00 PM
I think we've seen the blueprint for improvement done a few times in both the baseball and hockey leagues. If you're in a position where you've divested of your veterans, you should have a handful of young core players to build around, saturate the shit out of your minor league with as much talent as you can draft/find and once you're 4-5 pieces away from being good, trade prospects for quality players that have some impact window left.

There's a fine line between making those moves and misreading the depth of your system and slashing/burning before you're ready to compete and getting caught with a team not good enough, and nothing left to trade to get better.

Metalleaf
11-17-2015, 01:01 AM
I'm just here to sew seeds.

leafman101
11-17-2015, 01:09 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Leafman101 Trades:

Curtis Granderson
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/4/5/6/64463456/Grandyice1_38nkemxx.gif

MNIJ Trades:

Cameron Maybin
http://mlbfancave.mlb.com/assets/images/custom/Screen_Shot_2012_07_11_at_4.13.51_PM_20e9rdnj.jpg

Robbie Ray
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/14097589879b3b4f96244497460e5591898f6bf0/c=199-0-2097-1427&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/06/05/Phoenix/Phoenix/635690680585814502-Ray.jpg

Trade format stolen from MontanaTM

MyNameIsJonas
11-17-2015, 01:17 PM
Deal

Montana
11-17-2015, 01:30 PM
I dig this deal, I think it aids both of you.

MindzEye
11-17-2015, 01:32 PM
I hiv a good feeling about this one

MyNameIsJonas
11-17-2015, 01:35 PM
are you guys...positive?

Montana
11-17-2015, 01:39 PM
I don't want to be anal-retentive.....but I think the key to this deal is if any of them ends up playing for Philadelphia.

Deckie007
11-17-2015, 02:04 PM
Charlie Sheen has HIV

MyNameIsJonas
11-17-2015, 02:06 PM
Charlie Sheen is going to die soon

Montana
11-17-2015, 02:08 PM
#Wildthing4life.

MindzEye
11-17-2015, 02:21 PM
Just wanted to inject something into this conversation, but Charlie Sheen was outstanding in Platoon.

Montana
11-17-2015, 02:25 PM
Given the amount of women he's run through over the years, he must really have a magic johnson.

Habspatrol
11-17-2015, 02:36 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Leafman101 Trades:

Curtis Granderson
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/4/5/6/64463456/Grandyice1_38nkemxx.gif

MNIJ Trades:

Cameron Maybin
http://mlbfancave.mlb.com/assets/images/custom/Screen_Shot_2012_07_11_at_4.13.51_PM_20e9rdnj.jpg

Robbie Ray
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/14097589879b3b4f96244497460e5591898f6bf0/c=199-0-2097-1427&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/06/05/Phoenix/Phoenix/635690680585814502-Ray.jpg

Trade format stolen from MontanaTM

Hey I just read this
And this is crazy
But here's my opin'n
Cameron Maybin

MindzEye
11-17-2015, 03:01 PM
His dad was quite the ladies man too. Must be in his blood.

Montana
11-17-2015, 03:03 PM
I'm enjoying all this way too much....it's infectious.

Deckie007
11-17-2015, 04:27 PM
Given the amount of women he's run through over the years, he must really have a magic johnson.
Winnah

axlsalinger
11-17-2015, 07:15 PM
Winnah

Think you meant #winning.

Montana
11-17-2015, 10:56 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

Sam Tuivailala
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/153db4558fad726e01bbbbb21bb2366c67e6c023/c=1-0-534-400&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/Springfield/Springfield/2014/07/18/1405685710000-tpitcher0085.jpg

David Paulino
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/8/9/0/132963890/cuts/Paulino960_1oeqapli_psf2n2q5.jpg

Akeel Morris
https://snymets.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/akeel_morris15_fobroab9_xuhjrb04.jpg?w=480





Stubby Clapp Trades:


Jake McGee
http://www.thebestsportsblog.com/images/jake-mcgee-rays.jpg

toddcubitt
11-17-2015, 11:07 PM
Confirmed

braby21
11-17-2015, 11:41 PM
**Trade Announcement**



la esquina caliente trades

SP Mark Appel

http://images.hngn.com/data/images/full/120497/mark-appel.jpg

SP Zach Davies

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/325/files/2015/09/mlb-pittsburgh-pirates-milwaukee-brewers-850x560.jpg

SP Manny Banuelos

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/3/3/4/122035334/cuts/banuelos960_0p31qmoc_x73prfb2.jpg

& a 2015 4th Round Pick (Green Hornets)



Stubby Clapp trades

SP Drew Smyly

http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2014/09/c0s_raysgame080614_13633536_8col.jpg

toddcubitt
11-17-2015, 11:45 PM
Indeed

Montana
11-17-2015, 11:59 PM
That's a really damn interesting trade.....Smyly is a very solid acquisition, but Stubby landed a lot of of real quality high upside arms today.







He also clearly hates LHP from the Rays. heh

braby21
11-18-2015, 12:45 AM
Hoping it works out for both teams.

hairnova
11-18-2015, 10:48 AM
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:

To Stubby Clapp:
Wei-Yen Chen - LHP
Will Smith - LHP
Marco Gonzales - LHP
Orlando Arcia - SS
Steven Moya - RF

To hairnova:
Patrick Corbin - LHP
Tyler O'Neill - C/OF
2016 second-round pick (Stubby)
2016 second-round pick (Axl)

toddcubitt
11-18-2015, 11:38 AM
Yup

Montana
11-18-2015, 02:36 PM
I really like that troika of Arcia, Smith & Chen.....so slightly prefer Stubby's haul. But Corbin was a hell of a pitcher in 2014, and I think I also underrate O'Neil.

Tough to gauge tho till we see who Hair snags with those two 2nd round picks.

Deckie007
11-18-2015, 02:39 PM
Deckie trades conditional* 2017 5th Round (Deckie) pick to Hairnova for Shane Greene.

*if Greene starts 20 games or more in 2016, the pick becomes Hairnova's 2017 4th round pick, previously acquired by Deckie in another deal.

hairnova
11-18-2015, 02:40 PM
Taking a risk on Corbin, but hoping he can bounce back to what I think he's capable of.

Really liking my rotation of Archer/Miller/Corbin/Severino/Nola.

hairnova
11-18-2015, 02:41 PM
Deckie trades conditional* 2017 5th Round pick to Hairnova for Shane Greene.

*if Greene starts 20 games or more in 2016, the pick becomes Hairnova's 2016 4th round pick, previously acquired by Deckie in another deal.

Confirmed.

Deckie007
11-18-2015, 02:42 PM
Confirmed.
I made a small typo, haha. Fixed.

Montana
11-18-2015, 02:46 PM
Taking a risk on Corbin, but hoping he can bounce back to what I think he's capable of.

Really liking my rotation of Archer/Miller/Corbin/Severino/Nola.

Yeah if Corbin is fully back to his 2013 self this year and ultimately is a 10+ FPPG Starter while only being 26......this could be a hell of an acquisition for you.

As you alluded to, he also fits in well with the age of your current group.....pays to have guys all peaking together.

hairnova
11-18-2015, 02:48 PM
I made a small typo, haha. Fixed.

Well that's confirmed too then, lol.

Deckie007
11-18-2015, 02:49 PM
So many posts for such a small trade

MyNameIsJonas
11-18-2015, 06:31 PM
So many posts for such a small trade

You're a small post.

toddcubitt
11-18-2015, 08:31 PM
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

STUBBY CLAPP trades:

Danny Valencia 3B/LF
Ketel Marte SS


KENNY FU@&ING POWERS trades:

Lucas Duda 1B

Montana
11-18-2015, 08:34 PM
I dig that deal a fair bit.....Stubby gets his starting 1b, KFP gets potentially his starting LF & starting SS.




Meanwhile you both were basically dealing guys from your bench, to fill holes in your starting lineup.

Bull
11-18-2015, 08:46 PM
Confirmed.

MyNameIsJonas
11-18-2015, 10:27 PM
Valencia isn't a true LF

I veto

that and i wanted Duda

UWHabs
11-19-2015, 02:43 PM
Trade to report:

UW's Toes to Nose will trade SP Alex Wood

Stubby Clapp will send prospect Garin Cecchini

When asked to comment on the trade, UW declared, "We're still learning our team, but we think Cecchini will be a good 3B down the road. If only Boston could dump their useless overpriced 3B they have now. I pity whoever has him stuck on their roster right now."

Habspatrol
11-19-2015, 02:49 PM
Is your goal to have the BoSox entire infield?

UWHabs
11-19-2015, 02:54 PM
Is your goal to have the BoSox entire infield?

Well, they're pretty decent at developing infield talent, so I don't mind too much.

MyNameIsJonas
11-19-2015, 03:32 PM
Travis Shaw is available.

toddcubitt
11-19-2015, 03:36 PM
By the way... the Toes to Nose/Stubby Clapp deal... yeah, it's confirmed.

UWHabs
11-20-2015, 06:33 PM
We have another trade to report.

UW Toes to Nose trades RF Jay Bruce

In return The Human Cespesdes (HP) trades 3B Matt Duffy (SF) and SP Chris Heston

Upon announcing the deal, UW declared, "while he is not a Red Sox infielder, we felt getting someone like Matt Duffy was too good to pass up. Wait, hold on a sec, did I get the right Matt Duffy?... Okay, yes, we got the right one. Yes, sorry about that. We would like to thank everyone for their offers for Jay Bruce - it was certainly a great introduction to the league to learn trade values by talking to about half the league about him."

Habspatrol
11-20-2015, 06:55 PM
Agreed.

Cheers.

The Green Hornet
11-20-2015, 06:57 PM
love that deal for UW

Montana
11-20-2015, 07:20 PM
It's an interesting deal....Bruce had a long history of being a quasi-elite bat in our format for a numbers of years and is only 28....at the same time hasn't been on his game for 2 full seasons now.

Duffy had very little evidence in the minors showing potential for much, swatted more HR's than expected in 2015 at 24.....and while limited in overall upside, if he can match his performance last year, could settle in as a solid-if unspectacular 3B ala a Kyle Seager....who is more than passable as a starter.

UWHabs
11-20-2015, 07:40 PM
Duffy only hit 12 HR last year. Yes, he has no history, but none of his stats from last year showed that it was a one-time luck run. He looks more like a true breakout candidate that can give a good average with moderate power and steals.

Bruce I have no faith in. To me he feels like a guy who's fallen off a cliff and will never be a top player again. He might put up one season where his power comes back, but he might be the sort of guy who can barely hold a starting OF job in a couple years.

braby21
11-21-2015, 12:09 AM
I believe he meant 24 years old, not 24 bombs.

Blueman
11-22-2015, 12:14 PM
Blueman trades Duston Pedroia

to Jonas for

Jonathan Schoop, Daniel Robertson

MyNameIsJonas
11-22-2015, 01:54 PM
yeah

Montana
11-22-2015, 02:55 PM
I like that deal a fair bit for both squads.






No pics upsets me greatly tho.......this guerilla unground movement of hairnova's is picking up steam, and I don't like it one bit.

Habspatrol
11-22-2015, 03:22 PM
Bush league.

axlsalinger
11-22-2015, 03:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/286owZU.jpg

MyNameIsJonas
11-22-2015, 03:50 PM
Jonas adds Zack Cosart and a 2017 3rd

Montana Alcildes Escobar and a 2017 1st

Habspatrol
11-22-2015, 03:51 PM
:puke:

Montana
11-22-2015, 03:52 PM
Jonas adds Zack Cosart and a 2017 3rd

Montana Alcildes Escobar and a 2017 1st


Rejected.

MyNameIsJonas
11-22-2015, 03:55 PM
fantrax says i have cozart so i have him

Montana
11-22-2015, 03:58 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Jonas Trades:

1st Round Pick 2017 (HP)
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52a77187e4b03d96bfa84cc0/t/5628fb2ee4b0b08f4a3f0b75/1445526320122/

Alcides Escobar
http://cdn.noticiaaldia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/AEscobar.jpg






Montana Trades:

Zack Cozart
http://timdulinbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/140081393_20120330160349_640_480.jpg


3rd Round Pick 2017
http://www.oocities.org/familyguymoments/208/208_4.jpg






* mystery box concept shamelessly stolen from Deckie

MyNameIsJonas
11-22-2015, 04:01 PM
YAY

UWHabs
11-22-2015, 04:07 PM
Okay, I'm confused about the league. I thought the team giving the worse player was supposed to give up the better draft pick, no?

And apologies for the lack of pictures before.
http://frsports-bucket-0001.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/02/18200206/Jay-Bruce-21.jpg
Jay Bruce, on learning he was traded.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCfDYqFVEAAvLex.jpg
Matt Duffy playing COD with his cat, apparently.

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/09/12/images/mlbf_473390883_th_45.jpg
The reason why I traded Alex Wood

Deckie007
11-22-2015, 04:08 PM
* mystery box concept shamelessly stolen from Deckie

lol, thanks.

axlsalinger
11-22-2015, 04:09 PM
Okay, I'm confused about the league. I thought the team giving the worse player was supposed to give up the better draft pick, no?

I was literally just going to ask the very same question. It's absurd.

Montana
11-22-2015, 04:18 PM
Okay, I'm confused about the league. I thought the team giving the worse player was supposed to give up the better draft pick, no?



Zack Cozart had a 1.8 FPPG before being injured last year, with 9 HR's in 194 AB's (damn near a 30 HR pace)......with increases to his FB%, LD% while decreasing his IFFB% & GB%....he was also hitting the ball harder than usual. All in line with some of the power potential he'd flashed in the minors.

Alcides Escobar had a 1.45 FPPG and needed more than 1,800 at bats to hit his last 9 HR's.




I can't speak for Jonas.....but that's why Zack Cozart was going to be a keeper for me....and why Alcides wasn't a player I even asked for, but was tossed in as filler, because Jonas needed to clear a roster spot.

axlsalinger
11-22-2015, 04:25 PM
I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have Eugenio Suarez than Zack Cozart. Jonas has really done a great job this offseason improving your team.

UWHabs
11-22-2015, 04:28 PM
I guess this is the old, "the way the fantasy points work, this deal makes some sense". Guess it's whether you believe Cozart can be that 20+ HR guy, which for a SS is valuable, even if his OBP barely cracks .300. And not like Escobar has a much better OBP either and certainly doesn't have the power.

Montana
11-22-2015, 04:39 PM
Jonas has really done a great job this offseason improving your team.



You're still hung up on that Soler for Shields/Byrd trade?

braby21
11-22-2015, 05:03 PM
My opinion? Escobar is a pretty bad hitter, but Cozart is absolute trash. In 2014 he was literally the worst hitter in the MLB of qualified hitters, in 543 AB's. The two previous seasons (and 1200+ more AB's) he was terrible, not worst player in the league terrible, but still terrible.

My team finished 18th this year though, so I probably shouldn't comment.

Montana
11-22-2015, 05:30 PM
If one ignores 2015....I don't think there's any argument it wouldn't make sense.

In 2013 he was the 9th ranked SS in our format.....2012, had a 1.53 FPPG which is usually a lock for top 10 at the position if you play enough games.

If Jonas gets 1.55-1.65 FPPG SS play for ostensibly the cost of a swap of a 2nd and 4th....he'll have made out fine. If Cozart is 1.65+ it's a steal.

braby21
11-22-2015, 09:17 PM
If Zach Cozart was a Top 9/10 SS in our format in 2012 or 2013 then maybe we re-visit the scoring discussion? *dodges tomatoes*

Wait, swap of a 2nd and 4th? Didn't Jonah give up a 1st for a 3rd?

Montana
11-22-2015, 10:43 PM
HP 1st (likely to be 17-19 in the round), my 3rd, is most likely the last pick of the 3rd or close to it.

People get caught up in the labels of the picks but it's two very late picks in their respective rounds.....that have value closer to that of a high pick in the 2nd or high 4th, than they do even a mid 1st or mid 3rd.

Hence...."ostensibly"

Deckie007
11-27-2015, 08:18 PM
Another small trade, because that seems to be all I can do this offseason....

Deckie trades:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/4/42/Bing_Bong_crying.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150624014152&path-prefix=protagonist
Chris Colabello

to Metalleaf for:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8023/7423430352_d9036590b1_h.jpg
Pedro Strop

braby21
11-28-2015, 01:50 AM
Another small trade, because that seems to be all I can do this offseason....

Could be worse, you could've given JA Happ $36,000,000.

Metalleaf
11-28-2015, 04:49 PM
Another small trade, because that seems to be all I can do this offseason....

Deckie trades:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/4/42/Bing_Bong_crying.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150624014152&path-prefix=protagonist
Chris Colabello

to Metalleaf for:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8023/7423430352_d9036590b1_h.jpg
Pedro Strop

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/rBLzzOaIpI-7DhnNWjSHJcYnGk8=/0x75:2800x1942/2400x1600/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/9579067/163372295.0.jpg

Montana
11-30-2015, 06:40 PM
***Trade Announcement***

The Green Hornet Trades:

Alex Rodriguez
http://images.sportsworldreport.com/data/images/full/13772/new-york-yankees-third-baseman-alex-rodriguez.jpg?w=640

5th Round Pick 2017






Montana Trades:

3rd Round Pick 2017 (Deckie)

4th Round Pick 2017

The Green Hornet
11-30-2015, 07:19 PM
yep. helping Montana's team get better is about as satisfying as coming to the forum to find every new post is from blacksheep. needed to move him out or lose him for nothing in the draft though

UWHabs
11-30-2015, 07:24 PM
yep. helping Montana's team get better is about as satisfying as coming to the forum to find every new post is from blacksheep. needed to move him out or lose him for nothing in the draft though

Well, you can hope that he sucks, and that he won't actually help out Montana's team, and will instead eat a roster spot that he could have used on a more productive player.

Blueman
12-06-2015, 09:14 PM
Fielder, Prince: 2016 Allstars (Blueman) ---> Kenny Fu@&ing Powers

http://lockerroomfantasysports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/prince-fielder.jpg
Rondon, Hector: 2016 Allstars (Blueman) ---> Kenny Fu@&ing Powers
http://www.trbimg.com/img-55e8b43c/turbine/ct-hector-rondon-throws-100-mph-20150903

2016 Draft Pick, Round 3 (2016 Allstars (Blueman)): 2016 Allstars (Blueman) ---> Kenny Fu@&ing Powers
2016 Draft Pick, Round 4 (2016 Allstars (Blueman)): 2016 Allstars (Blueman) ---> Kenny Fu@&ing Powers
For
2016 Draft Pick, Round 5 (Kenny Fu@&ing Powers): Kenny Fu@&ing Powers ---> 2016 Allstars (Blueman)
Encarnacion, Edwin: Kenny Fu@&ing Powers ---> 2016 Allstars (Blueman)
http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/sports/bluejays/2013/06/11/toronto_blue_jays_edwin_encarnacion_in_danger_of_g etting_stiffed_by_allstar_game_again/edwin_encarnacion.jpg

Bull
12-06-2015, 09:17 PM
Confirmed

Montana
12-06-2015, 11:27 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

Jon Lester
https://ctbpod.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/jonlester.jpg

Jonathan Papelbon
http://a1.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/mlb/images/2015/07/30-2/073015-MLB-Washington-Jonathan-Papelbon-pitches-MM-PI.vadapt.620.high.23.jpg






Kenny F*cking Powers Trades:


Zack Wheeler
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images//visual/whatshot/Zack-Wheeler-Mets-shut-down-092113.jpg

Ryan McMahon
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/6/8/0/73593680/cuts/McMahon_954irx7n_00iylaa6.jpg

3rd Round Pick 2016

3rd Round Pick 2016 (Blueman)

Bull
12-06-2015, 11:36 PM
Confirmed

TimHorton
12-08-2015, 04:25 PM
Yes we McCann needs a new name

TBD Trades
Brian McCann
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/435263.jpg

Kenny Fu@&ing Powers Trades
Max Fried
http://www.gondeee.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/mfried.jpg

Gabriel Guerrero
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/7/0/8/75890708/cuts/guerrero640_r11ag0oo_33l2n3ak.jpg

Bull
12-08-2015, 06:23 PM
Confirmed

Habspatrol
12-08-2015, 07:31 PM
Yes we McCann needs a new name

TBD Trades
Brian McCann
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/435263.jpg

Kenny Fu@&ing Powers Trades
Max Fried
http://www.gondeee.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/mfried.jpg

Gabriel Guerrero
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/7/0/8/75890708/cuts/guerrero640_r11ag0oo_33l2n3ak.jpg

Gotta say... I thought the 4 or 5 offers I sent you over the past 6 months were as good... or at least worth a counter offer. :shrug

Matrim
12-09-2015, 03:31 PM
TRADE!!

Matrim Trades

2016 3rd round pick (Stubby Clapp)
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1258175/mystery-box.jpg

Axlsalinger Trades

Mike Fiers
https://believeinadream.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/mike-fiers-no-no.jpg

axlsalinger
12-09-2015, 03:48 PM
Done deal.

Montana
12-10-2015, 11:22 AM
I like that Friers pickup.....like the Ian Kennedy acquisition, just a real solid cheap guy who can give you ~9 FPPG production. Good for Axl too, as I'm sure he was in a similar spot as GH with A-Rod, and needing to free up roster spots, or lose quality guys for nothing.

Also dig that McCann pickup for Bull....plugged a big hole in his lineup with one of the real elites at the position. Fried's a nice guy to roll the dice on too, for TH.

Montana
12-12-2015, 02:29 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:


Ryan McMahon
http://www.milb.com/assets/images/6/8/0/73593680/cuts/McMahon_954irx7n_00iylaa6.jpg

Jharel Cotton
http://dodgersnationcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Jharel-Cotton-2.jpg

1st Round Pick 2017





Mindz Trades:

Cody Allen
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/2013/03/65758421.jpg

https://everybodyhatescleveland.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/cody-allen-fastball.gif

MindzEye
12-12-2015, 02:34 PM
Done

Montana
12-20-2015, 09:23 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

Kevin Jepsen
http://www.baseballessential.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/usa-today-8730074_0.jpg

5th Round Pick 2017(GH)






DeckieTrades:

4th Round Pick 2016 (Jonas)

4th Round Pick 2017 (Deckie)

Montana
12-20-2015, 09:42 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

5th Round Pick 2016(hairnova)






Axl Trades:

Joaquin Benoit
http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/baseball/mlb/img24630348.jpg

Deckie007
12-20-2015, 09:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8expm.gif

Deckie007
12-20-2015, 09:44 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

Kevin Jepsen
http://www.baseballessential.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/usa-today-8730074_0.jpg

5th Round Pick 2017(hairnova)






DeckieTrades:

4th Round Pick 2016 (Jonas)

4th Round Pick 2017 (Deckie)

http://i.imgur.com/8expm.gif

axlsalinger
12-21-2015, 03:27 AM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

5th Round Pick 2016(hairnova)






Axl Trades:

Joaquin Benoit
http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/baseball/mlb/img24630348.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VUqGQNJ.jpg

Montana
12-21-2015, 10:00 AM
Good doing business gents. Deckie snags a cheap 2.66/200pts reliever for cheap, Axl gets a 5th for someone he likely wasn't protecting and I got a little Cishek insurance.


Nicely done all around.

Deckie007
12-21-2015, 10:17 AM
You only say that because you proposed both trades. :)

Montana
12-21-2015, 10:43 AM
Axl offered Benoit for a 5th to me.....so I looked for a landing spot for Jepsen.





You lucked out.

TimHorton
12-25-2015, 02:46 PM
Yes we McCann Trades:

Wade Miley
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/PRRC71P3tLe8sohqmV6D0w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztmaT1maWxsO2g9MjMwO3E9NzU7dz 0zNDU-/https://s.yimg.com/xe/i/us/sp/v/mlb_cutout/players_l/20150406/9017.png

3rd Round Pick 2016



Stubby Clap Trades:

Justin Bour
http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Florida/2015/7/1/070115-fsf-mlb-miami-marlins-justin-bour-PI.vresize.1200.675.high.31.jpg

Ryan Madson
http://media.philly.com/images/033115_madson_600.jpg

4th Round Pick 2016

toddcubitt
12-25-2015, 03:14 PM
It's actually two 4th round picks in 2016 heading to McCann... otherwise, yes, the trade is confirmed.

Montana
12-25-2015, 04:06 PM
We spit in the face of the concept of Christmas trade freezes, around these parts.


Nice deal....Bour is an interest cat, his FPPG per at bat was real impressive and his HR/AB equally so. As a former owner of his, im real intrigued to see how he follows up on his 2015.

Habspatrol
01-21-2016, 10:00 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Habspatrol Trades:

Yoenis Cespedes
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2505226!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/metstwitter22s-1-web.jpg

Mike Bolsinger
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Los+Angeles+Dodgers+Photo+Day+ypDSXHI9JLvl.jpg



Bull Trades:

Johnny Cueto
http://img.sfbay.ca/home/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/151217_JohnnyCueto0194_bay101-845x563.jpg

Danny Valencia
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/483537114-danny-valencia-of-the-oakland-athletics-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXsRJ523KILgMlByawxqa2g0yIsJW orrq0o2%2FUoFeXRpNvf1LprvU0K68gta5FWU%2BNA%3D%3D

Bull
01-21-2016, 10:06 PM
Confirmed

MindzEye
02-01-2016, 09:53 PM
Mindz trades:


5th Round Pick 2016
Gabriel Mejia



True Left Fielders trade:

Desmond Jennings

Blueman
02-01-2016, 10:30 PM
Blueman trades Delino DeShields (LF) to

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/players/head_shot/592261.jpg

UWHabs for Yasmany Tomas (3B)

http://o0tp7mzzn32msux2jkg8kga0.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2014/09/Tomas-Yasmani-1301-boyer-rode.jpg

UWHabs
02-02-2016, 12:11 AM
Blueman trades Delino DeShields (LF) to

UWHabs for Yasmany Tomas (3B)


'Tis confirmed. While I doubt Delino will live up to his pa, we hope for the best for him. Now just have to hope Tomas doesn't break out for 30 HRs next year or I'll be kicking myself.

Matrim
02-02-2016, 09:43 PM
Matrim Trades:

1B - Mitch Moreland

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/9a/9a/a3/9a9aa30af1d83a6a484a6b8870e26990.jpg

2017 - 3rd Round Pick(Matrim)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RQjQvxtmK8A/TNhSeQkgE5I/AAAAAAAADWA/5Gd8j9h4CpA/s1600/GuessWhoBox.png

hairnova Trades:

2B/3B - Daniel Murphy

http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/files/2015/01/Daniel-Murphy-New-York-Mets.jpg

2016 - 4th Round Pick(Matrim)

http://mybeautyboxreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/bareMinerals-Mystery-Box-600x600.jpg

hairnova
02-02-2016, 09:47 PM
Confirmed.

UWHabs
02-03-2016, 02:29 PM
UW Trades:
Delino DeShields
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Blj0xaWIEAA8sNP.jpg
Forrest Wall
http://www.cresseyperformance.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Forrest_Wall_1280_2dej20dt_5e5h3eia.jpg
Dan Vogelbach
http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2014/04/03/images/mlbf_31790687_th_45.jpg

To hairnova for:
Manuel Margot
http://sittingstill.smugmug.com/Spring-Training/Red-Sox-ST-March-18-2014/i-W2QVxcd/0/M/031814_6509-M.jpg
Kevin Kiermaier
http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Florida/2014/9/26/092614-fsf-mlb-tampa-bay-rays-kevin-kiermaier-PI.vresize.1200.675.high.72.jpg

"DeShields has been a valuable member of our organization for a long time now, and we are sad to part with him." UW was overheard saying after the deal.

hairnova
02-03-2016, 02:44 PM
Haha, since I was also making a trade post, I'll just leave these here:

https://giant.gfycat.com/UntriedBogusDotterel.gif

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/289/18118764753_09ab70722b_o.gif

But yes, confirmed.

axlsalinger
02-12-2016, 12:54 AM
*** Trade Announcement ***


Axl's Field of Dreams Trades:


Trevor Bauer


http://i.imgur.com/rjuWV3o.jpg



Khris Davis


http://i.imgur.com/VuHA6Uw.jpg


3rd Round Pick 2016 (Stubby Clapp)


http://i.imgur.com/uCMM0H2.jpg




Kenny F*cking Powers Trades:


Trevor Rosenthal


http://i.imgur.com/pYpksGI.jpg



Logan Forsythe


http://i.imgur.com/B4Ft2Bz.jpg

Bull
02-12-2016, 11:10 AM
Confirmed.

Habspatrol
02-13-2016, 03:15 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Habspatrol Trades:

Jason Grilli
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/469268704-jason-grilli-of-the-atlanta-braves-reacts-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QSC5%2BfvSG49jWF4QyzK6WgMagm lLDAOQ9k8X3Kz9Du891YvAR6Pkw0C4gBGLxlti9A%3D%3D

Bull Trades:

2016 4th Round Pick (Blueman)
http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-a-gift-box-with-red-ribbon-and-bow-with-a-sign-jumping-out-like-a-jack-in-the-box-on-a-spring-311596286.jpg

Bull
02-13-2016, 04:10 PM
Deal

Deckie007
02-13-2016, 04:23 PM
A fairly significant deal to announce. Deckie trades:

http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/mlb/images/2015/10/27/102715-mlb-Jacob-deGrom-pi-mp.vresize.1200.675.high.60.jpg
Jacob DeGrom

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2016/01/kevin-jepsen-mlb-houston-astros-minnesota-twins-850x560.jpg
Kevin Jepsen

to Bull for:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_qxOJM_uvf_U/Ta3mSa6au4I/AAAAAAAABI0/mwaZJu_mIIw/2011-special-0418.jpg
Mike Leake

http://giant.gfycat.com/SarcasticPleasantArgusfish.gif
Hector Rondon

http://37.media.tumblr.com/08e75832d3eecbe45329ad6c912d83d1/tumblr_n5unuilLK81ro5xweo2_400.gif
Khris Davis

MyNameIsJonas
02-13-2016, 04:26 PM
shit week for Khris Davis

real life to Oakland
fantsy life to Deckie

Shit hole either way

Bull
02-13-2016, 04:31 PM
Deal. For sure deal.

Habspatrol
02-13-2016, 06:20 PM
Looks like a real nice deal for Bull.

UWHabs
02-13-2016, 07:23 PM
By the way, if anyone else is willing to sell a top-tier starter for pennies on the dollar, let me know and I'll be happy to take them off your hands :)

Deckie007
02-13-2016, 09:09 PM
Math is hard.

MindzEye
02-14-2016, 01:26 PM
Your trade was bad and you should feel bad

MyNameIsJonas
02-14-2016, 02:06 PM
yeah, i know getting raped...and you sir got raped

Deckie007
02-14-2016, 03:01 PM
How about no.

MyNameIsJonas
02-14-2016, 03:07 PM
raped in the face

braby21
02-14-2016, 03:53 PM
I'm a little late but damn Bull, that's a get

Montana
02-14-2016, 04:03 PM
Math is hard.


Yo calculator janky af.

UWHabs
02-24-2016, 01:15 PM
UW Trades
4055
Arismedy Alcantara

to Montana for
4056
2016 5th round pick (Jonas)

Matrim
02-25-2016, 01:58 AM
Matrim Trades:

http://images.all-free-download.com/images/graphiclarge/white_gift_box_170113.jpg
2016 1st Round Pick (Deckie)

and

Bull Trades:

http://www.survivinggrady.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/porcello_youk.jpeg
Rick Porcello

http://www.myheraldnews.com/articles/201471134854-online-scratch-cards.jpg
2016 3rd Round Pick (Tim Horton)

Montana
02-25-2016, 02:04 AM
Nice trade Matrim.....I'd been talking Porcello with Bull but then at the last minute you swept-in and scooped me, heh......nice trade for both of you though.




UW Trades
4055
Arismedy Alcantara

to Montana for
4056
2016 5th round pick (Jonas)


confirmed.

Matrim
02-25-2016, 02:11 AM
Thanks, I need the pitching depth. I only have 1 top SP and it's hard to acquire high-end pitching so I'm just going to have a bunch of darts to throw at the board and hope I get some good seasons. Also allows for injuries to not kill me.

Bull
02-25-2016, 02:36 AM
Confirmed

Montana
02-27-2016, 09:23 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Montana Trades:

Zack Wheeler
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images//visual/whatshot/Zack-Wheeler-Mets-shut-down-092113.jpg
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/3066657/2013-08-15_Zack_Wheeler_strikeout_2.gif


Greg Holland
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2013/07/greg-holland-asg-jake-roth2.jpg


Joaquin Benoit
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/65/files/2015/11/joaquin-benoit-mlb-san-diego-padres-photo-day-590x900.jpg






Habspatrol Trades:


Danny Salazar
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/464556166-pitcher-danny-salazar-poses-during-cleveland-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QXk6J2mfmfX9RqNUPn1bbaIvuF8i bHXJj2avBKApZp9n2t4koPr7cve%2FNP9DEBgxAw%3D%3D
https://media.giphy.com/media/fl62aGGlJ9WYE/giphy-downsized-large.gif

braby21
02-27-2016, 09:31 PM
I'm a big Salazar fan. Solid work.

Habspatrol
02-27-2016, 09:31 PM
Confirmed.

Matrim
03-02-2016, 08:59 PM
Matrim Trades:

http://www.milb.com/images/2012/12/16/kZ3Qi5kZ.jpg

Travis d'Arnaud

and

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/4/8/0/85159480/cuts/14415402653_abca6bf2ee_k_7p9tr0bi_9ls5bf4z.jpg

Austin Voth

Blueman Trades:

http://images.realtytoday.com/data/images/full/15801/matt-kemp-batting-during-the-chicago-white-sox-vs-san-diego-padres-game.jpg?w=580

Matt Kemp

Blueman
03-02-2016, 09:04 PM
Matrim Trades:

http://www.milb.com/images/2012/12/16/kZ3Qi5kZ.jpg

Travis d'Arnaud

and

http://www.milb.com/assets/images/4/8/0/85159480/cuts/14415402653_abca6bf2ee_k_7p9tr0bi_9ls5bf4z.jpg

Austin Voth

Blueman Trades:

http://images.realtytoday.com/data/images/full/15801/matt-kemp-batting-during-the-chicago-white-sox-vs-san-diego-padres-game.jpg?w=580

Matt Kemp

confirmed

Habspatrol
03-04-2016, 12:38 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Habspatrol Trades:

2017 2nd
2018 3rd


Timmay Trades:

2016 2nd Round Pick

TimHorton
03-04-2016, 12:41 PM
Yep.

Habspatrol
03-05-2016, 10:19 PM
***Trade Announcement***

Habspatrol Trades:

2016 3rd (Montana)


Green Hornet Trades:

2017 3rd (Deckie)

The Green Hornet
03-08-2016, 06:32 PM
2017 4th to Blueman for #84 and #88 in this draft

Blueman
03-08-2016, 08:57 PM
2017 4th to Blueman for #84 and #88 in this draft

Confirmed

Deckie007
03-08-2016, 10:07 PM
Bull trades two 4th rounds this year
Deckie trades a 3rd and a 4th next year

Bull
03-08-2016, 11:23 PM
Bull trades two 4th rounds this year
Deckie trades a 3rd and a 4th next year

Confirmed

axlsalinger
03-09-2016, 03:03 AM
Axl Trades:

- 2016 5th Round Pick (Hairnova)
- 2017 5th Round Pick (Axl)

Green Hornets Trades:

- 2017 4th Rounder (Montana)

Deckie007
03-19-2016, 02:59 PM
Kind of a big deal:

Deckie trades:

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/vE9gJatCuZWntzN4c8mCDG8eJwE=/37x0:2086x1366/1310x873/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/48940709/usa-today-9131414.0.jpg
Aaron Blair

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Cleveland+Indians+v+Chicago+White+Sox+E8vfoSEp7XEl .jpg
Zack Duke

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/6/5/10/anigif_enhanced-buzz-16175-1338905007-1.gif
Courtney Hawkins

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/qconline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/25/225a928b-2b00-580c-baf7-f134fd22dea8/5525c4ca760c7.image.jpg?resize=760%2C506
Joe Musgrove

Carlos Carrasco
http://m.mlb.com/assets/images/3/7/8/134180378/cuts/CarrascoNear1280_0hlv2frq_fd8337kd.jpg

2017 1st round Pick

to Jonas for

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQW8mPZEjtBrgSgBsLG9JJWQWJh3lxyN p-Yu9VglOr1QpKw_D0i
Wade Davis

http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Kansas%20City/2014/10/26/pi-mlb-royals-james-shields-10262014.vresize.1200.675.high.33.jpg
James Shields

2017 3rd Round Pick (Montana)

MyNameIsJonas
03-19-2016, 03:06 PM
yes

UWHabs
03-20-2016, 09:10 AM
Like the deal for Jonas, but I'm high on Carrasco.

Habspatrol
03-20-2016, 04:15 PM
Deckie is certainly setting a huge market for closers.

Deckie007
03-20-2016, 05:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/f9A0nTd.gif

axlsalinger
03-21-2016, 10:51 PM
*** Trade Announcement ***



http://i.imgur.com/xyOS59M.jpg



AXLSALINGER TRADES:



Corey Seager


http://i.imgur.com/C7YZ0Ma.jpg



Eric Hosmer


http://i.imgur.com/WXYRPHY.jpg



Jaime Garcia


http://i.imgur.com/7t8sxbL.jpg



Sean Newcomb


http://i.imgur.com/6Ws178z.jpg



Rob Kaminsky


http://i.imgur.com/Qoy9Oti.jpg



Nick Vincent


http://i.imgur.com/mGz33WF.jpg



2017 1st Round Pick


http://i.imgur.com/AWUC26W.jpg





MYNAMEISJONAS TRADES:



Miguel Cabrera


http://i.imgur.com/WIQ4hPq.jpg



Zack Greinke


http://i.imgur.com/oanMoap.jpg



Drew Storen


http://i.imgur.com/sfe6Rgc.jpg



Brad Boxberger


http://i.imgur.com/9VYkeWX.jpg

Habspatrol
03-21-2016, 10:53 PM
Whoa!!

Nice job Axl... Jonas wanted that from me for just Boxberger.

MyNameIsJonas
03-21-2016, 10:54 PM
yea

MyNameIsJonas
03-21-2016, 10:54 PM
Whoa!!

Nice job Axl... Jonas wanted that from me for just Boxberger.

yeah thats what happened

Deckie007
03-21-2016, 10:56 PM
This trade is making me reconsider our friendship.

Habspatrol
03-21-2016, 10:58 PM
yeah thats what happened

Pretty close.

MyNameIsJonas
03-21-2016, 10:59 PM
This trade is making me reconsider our friendship.

To be fair, if i didnt get what i got from you in the Wade deal, i'd have been much less interested in making this sell job to Axl.


Also, you would all be stunned to learn how long and arduous this trade road was.

MyNameIsJonas
03-21-2016, 10:59 PM
Pretty close.

Yeah, cause asking for things like Ben Paulson and Danny Valencia compares to what i got from Ax...Jesus.

Bull
03-21-2016, 11:01 PM
Whoa!!

Nice job Axl... Jonas wanted that from me for just Boxberger.

+1

Deckie007
03-21-2016, 11:04 PM
To be fair, if i didnt get what i got from you in the Wade deal, i'd have been much less interested in making this sell job to Axl.


Also, you would all be stunned to learn how long and arduous this trade road was.

Makes zero sense.

Habspatrol
03-21-2016, 11:21 PM
Yeah, cause asking for things like Ben Paulson and Danny Valencia compares to what i got from Ax...Jesus.

Yeah cause Paulsen and Valencia were the major parts of the offer... not Kipnis and Zack Wheeler.

Deckie007
03-21-2016, 11:21 PM
All kidding aside though, Jonas got a top 5ish 1B, a top 3 prospect, top 25 pitching prospect, a 1st, and a pretty good SP for a closer out two months, a potential top 10 closer, a top 5 pitcher and a top 5 1B. Considering how much younger the players Jonas got back were, it's not a bad deal at all. Sure makes me wish I had squeezed more out of him though, he gave up a tonne of win now stuff.

axlsalinger
03-21-2016, 11:34 PM
Yeah, I honestly had ZERO interest in trading Corey Seager. I love some of the other guys I gave up too. This trade made too much sense for where my team is at right now to not consider it, but I gave up a few pieces I really think are going to be studly.

When i got up today, I should have just gone to the dentist and asked them to do a couple of root canals. It would have been less painful. Ultimately it's a good trade for both sides.