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andyt
08-12-2016, 06:49 AM
The season is upon us. Here is match week 1.

Saturday:
Hull v. Leicester 7:30/12:30 CNBC
Everton v. Spurs 10:00/15:00 CNBC
Burnley v. Swansea
Crystal Palace v. West Brom
Middlesbrough v. Stoke
Southampton v. Watford
Man City v. Sunderland 12:30/17:30 CNBC

Sunday:
Bournemouth v. Man U 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Arsenal v. Liverpool 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Chelsea v. West Ham 3:00/20:00 USA Network

jeffbear
08-12-2016, 10:19 AM
Can't believe that NBC isn't jumping all over that Middlesboro/Stoke match.

Seriously ... I'm sure VDC joins me in wishing all you suckers who still have a team that matters a great season. I'm carpetbagging with the Toffees, but I find my heart is still stuck in the Championship with a side that can't even avoid getting run by bloody Luten Town.

VinatieriDefinesClutch
08-12-2016, 12:54 PM
Speak for yourself. I'm in full on spite mode, I wish you all nothing but the worst luck and a horrible season. Villa, Newcastle, the championship is clearly where the big boys play. I mean, it has the word "champion" right in it just to let you know that it's number one.

I think I'm gonna ride with Man U this year. See if I can transfer some of my stink to them. Also, I'm #TeamZlatan for life. But in seriousness, I'm probably rooting for Everton as well, so sorry in advance.

andyt
08-12-2016, 11:34 PM
The champion should get to open at home. Instead Leicester has to travel to the dumpster fire that is Hull City AFC

andyt
08-13-2016, 07:19 AM
The groundskeepers at Hull had to pressure wash graffiti off the stadium walls before the match today.

davemess
08-13-2016, 12:12 PM
Hull 2-1 Leicester
Burnley 0-1 Swansea
Crystal Palace 0-1 West Brom
Everton 1-1 Tottenham
Middlesbrough 1-1 Stoke
Southampton 1-1 Watford


All the stuff going around Hull didn't seem to hurt them any today.

davemess
08-14-2016, 12:01 PM
Bournemouth 1 - 3 Man U


Only 55 minutes into the 2nd game but after half time Liverpool have looked really good and are now 3-1 up. Its wave after wave of attack at the moment and the Arsenal back 4 cannot cope.

davemess
08-14-2016, 12:19 PM
Still 15 minutes to go but think this game is proving what we already knew.... neither Liverpool or Arsenal can defend.

Arsenal 3-4 Liverpool

andyt
08-14-2016, 08:57 PM
Still 15 minutes to go but think this game is proving what we already knew.... neither Liverpool or Arsenal can defend.

Arsenal 3-4 Liverpool

Didn't watch it, I was on a beach. To be fair, Arsenal started the useless Chambers and 20 year old Premier League debutant Rob Holding at center back.

jeffbear
08-15-2016, 10:31 AM
Yeah, Arsenal's back line is a mess due to injuries. What's Liverpool's excuse, exactly? If that press of their doesn't force turnovers, pretty much everything goes to crap.

jeffbear
08-16-2016, 11:40 AM
Chelsea finish off the "weekend" with a late winner by Costa. 2-1 over West Ham.

Is it weird to anyone else that neither West Ham (opening the re-worked Olympic Stadium) or Leicester (defending champs) opened at home?

davemess
08-16-2016, 01:03 PM
Is it weird to anyone else that neither West Ham (opening the re-worked Olympic Stadium) or Leicester (defending champs) opened at home?

Leicester not at home is a bit weird. You would think they would have been.

HNIM
08-16-2016, 08:11 PM
Honestly, Leicester not at home was an insult.

andyt
08-16-2016, 08:41 PM
Defending champion should always open at home against the Championship playoff winner.

andyt
08-19-2016, 09:17 AM
Match week 2 and the first Friday night match. The new TV rights deal added 10 Friday matches to the schedule. In the US, the 10:00 match TV schedule is still TBD but it will be on NBCSN with the rest on Live Extra.

Friday:
Man U v. Southampton 3:00/20:00 USA Network

Saturday:
Stoke v. Man City 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Burnley v. Liverpool 10:00/15:00
Swansea v. Hull
Spurs v. Crystal Palace
Watford v. Chelsea
West Brom v. Everton
Leicester v. Arsenal 12:30/17:30 CNBC

Sunday:
Sunderland v. Middlesbrough 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
West Ham v. Bournemouth 11:00/16:00 CNBC

davemess
08-20-2016, 11:42 AM
Stoke 1-4 Man City
Burnley 2-0 Liverpool
Watford 1-2 Chelsea
Swansea 0-2 Hull
West Brom 1-2 Everton
Tottenham 1-0 Crystal Palace


So much for Hull as relegation favourites, might stick a tenner on them winning the league :D

davemess
08-20-2016, 01:15 PM
Interesting Stat from the Burnley/Liverpool game


Liverpool had 81% of possession and 26 shots

The 19% of possession that the Clarets had is the lowest total by a winning side in the Premier League since Opta began recording the statistic in the 2003-04 season.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37067882

That is crazy

andyt
08-20-2016, 03:26 PM
Leicester 0-0 Arsenal

And from Friday Man U 2-0 Southampton. Zlatan had both.

davemess
08-21-2016, 12:41 PM
Sunderland 1-2 Middlesbrough
West Ham 1-0 Bournemouth

Moyes had better get some money for players before the window closes or Sunderland are going to be in trouble again.

andyt
08-21-2016, 02:41 PM
Some issues at the Olympic Stadium for the first league match. The club warned season ticket holders that standing during the matches would result in their season tickets being revoked. They weren't kidding, based on this tweet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePLZone/status/767381794823999488

And there was this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePLZone/status/767417500762005505

andyt
08-26-2016, 08:49 AM
Matchweek 3:

Spurs v. Liverpool 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Chelsea v. Burnley 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Bournemouth
Everton v. Stoke
Leicester v. Swansea
Southampton v. Sunderland
Watford v. Arsenal
Hull v. Man U 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
West Brom v. Middlesbrough 8:30/13:30 CNBC
Man City v. West Ham 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

davemess
08-27-2016, 12:32 PM
Tottenham 1-1 Liverpool
Chelsea 3-0 Burnley
Crystal Palace 1-1 Bournemouth
Everton 1-0 Stoke
Leicester 2-1 Swansea
Southampton 1-1 Sunderland
Watford 1-3 Arsenal

davemess
08-27-2016, 02:23 PM
Hull 0-1 Man U

jeffbear
08-29-2016, 10:28 AM
Hull 0-1 Man U

Hull battled hard in that one. No shame in the result. They've been playing with an almost unbelievable amount of cohesion and fight considering their circumstances.

HNIM
08-29-2016, 01:41 PM
Hull battled hard in that one. No shame in the result. They've been playing with an almost unbelievable amount of cohesion and fight considering their circumstances.

That one broke my heart, even though as the second half wore on it had a sense of inevitability to it. Hate to see United winning like that again.

I think the cohesion and fight on the part of Hull are a result of the circumstances. Band of Brothers and all that.

andyt
09-02-2016, 01:50 PM
Sergio Aguero picks up a 3 match ban for violent conduct after elbowing Winston Reid over the weekend. He'll miss the Manchester Derby, Bournemouth and a League Cup match against Swansea.

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-city/story/2942714/manchester-city-sergio-aguero-banned-for-three-games-for-violent-conduct

andyt
09-09-2016, 09:47 AM
Back from the international break with match week 4. And it opens with the Manchester Derby.

Saturday:
Man U v. Man City 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Arsenal v. Southampton 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Stoke v. Spurs CNBC
Bournemouth v. West Brom
Burnley v. Hull
Middlesbrough v. Crystal Palace
West Ham v. Watford
Liverpool v. Leicester 12:30/17:30 NBCSN

Sunday:
Swansea v. Chelsea 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Sunderland v. Everton 3:00/15:00 NBCSN

andyt
09-10-2016, 05:01 PM
Man U 1-2 Man City
Bournemouth 1-0 West Brom
Arsenal 2-1 Southampton
Burnley 1-1 Hull
Middlesbrough 1-2 Crystal Palace
Stoke 0-4 Spurs
West Ham 2-4 Watford
Liverpool 4-1 Leicester

Mark Hughes was sent to the stands for Stoke. Arsenal get a 94th minute penalty to grab the win. Watford come from 0-2 down to beat West Ham. Liverpool overwhelmed Leicester in the opener of the newly enlarged Anfield. Was Kante the key for Leicester last year? They only have 4 points from their first 4 matches.

VinatieriDefinesClutch
09-10-2016, 08:13 PM
The last five minutes of the first half of the Manchester derby were spectacular. It was as if both teams decided to end the half early. It should have been 2-2, but Zlatan who also had checked out early and I think was in a state of shock of having the ball roll to him with the goalie nowhere in site, passed the ball to the defender standing on the City goal line instead of shooting it anywhere else.

As for Leicester, it's not just Kante, though that is a huge factor, it's also just all the extra factors of maybe not having the same drive in the second year. Chasing a title is easy (well not easy, but you know what I mean), defending a title is much harder. Expectations are much higher and the energy necessary to come back and do it again is exponentially higher. Also, last year they were ruthless in converting chances. Every time they got it to Vardy on the break, it seemed to end up in the back of the net without fail.

jeffbear
09-11-2016, 01:09 PM
Leicester are having real trouble transitioning to being the kind of team people actually have an effective gameplan for. They thrived last year on the counter and played better when a little starved of possession or when pressed high so they could chip it past guys and use their legs in space. This season teams seem to be pleased to sit back a bit and invite the Foxes to break them down. Thus far they just seem unable to do that.

andyt
09-11-2016, 06:41 PM
Swansea 2-2 Chelsea

Chelsea get a late goal from Costa to salvage the tie. Terry appeared to roll his ankle right near the end. That bears watching although they have David Luiz in reserve if he can't go.

andyt
09-12-2016, 05:08 PM
Sunderland 0-3 Everton

Lukaku with a hat trick, within 11 minutes in the 2nd half. Everton and Chelsea are tied for 2nd on 10 points and +5 while Sunderland are 19th with 1 point and a 3 goal advantage over Stoke.

jeffbear
09-13-2016, 11:08 AM
Everton's strong start on D has held up. They do look exceptionally well organized in the back for the most part under Koeman. If Lakaku's going to get on a roll, it looks like they could pile up some points between now and the end of Sept

davemess
09-13-2016, 12:57 PM
Everton's strong start on D has held up. They do look exceptionally well organized in the back for the most part under Koeman. If Lakaku's going to get on a roll, it looks like they could pile up some points between now and the end of Sept
The defence is encouraging. Think that by having 2 proper wingers that Baines & Coleman don't have to get forward quite so much and that's keeping things more under control at the back.

Carragher and P Neville were absolutely raving about the play of Idrissa Gueye as well.

jeffbear
09-13-2016, 04:26 PM
Carragher and P Neville were absolutely raving about the play of Idrissa Gueye as well.

Yeah. I know a lot of Villa fans are steaming over his high level of play for Everton ... but I think most of them are forgetting that he was in his first season in the EPL last year and that he really came on down the stretch when he got settled and healthy. It clearly wasn't his fault that nobody on their back line could stand give a collective crap.

andyt
09-16-2016, 10:07 AM
Matchweek 5 and it kicks off with another Friday match. Something odd too...I can't find a US TV listing for the late Saturday match, not even on one of the overflow channels. It's live on BT Sport though.

Today:
Chelsea v. Liverpool 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

Saturday:
Man City v. Bournemouth 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Hull v. Arsenal
Leicester v. Burnley
West Brom v. West Ham
Everton v. Middlesbrough 12:30/17:30

Sunday:
Watford v. Man U 7:00/12:00 CNBC
Crystal Palace v. Stoke 9:15/14:15 CNBC
Southampton v. Swansea
Spurs v. Sunderland 11:30/16:30 NBCSN

jeffbear
09-16-2016, 03:16 PM
Matchweek 5 and it kicks off with another Friday match. Something odd too...I can't find a US TV listing for the late Saturday match, not even on one of the overflow channels. It's live on BT Sport though.

Sometimes they do that during college football season, especially if Notre Dame is playing a Noon game. Didn't check to see if they are though ... lazy.

andyt
09-16-2016, 05:35 PM
Sometimes they do that during college football season, especially if Notre Dame is playing a Noon game. Didn't check to see if they are though ... lazy.

Everton v. Middlesbrough will be on NBC, according to the email I got from NBC Sports. But my cable guide shows Vanderbilt v. Georgia Tech.

andyt
09-18-2016, 01:08 AM
Chelsea 1-2 Liverpool
Hull 1-4 Arsenal
Leicester 3-0 Burnley
Man City 4-0 Nournemouth
West Brom 4-2 West Ham
Everton 3-1 Middlesbrough

Things aren't going well for West Ham. The have a second worst -6 GD, worst goals against with 13 and could fall into the drop zone depending on Sunday's results. On the other end, Man City are rolling, with 5 wins from 5 matches and a +11 GD, conceding only 4 goals, including their 3 UCL matches.

andyt
09-19-2016, 08:39 AM
Watford 3-1 Man U
Crystal Palace 4-1 Stoke
Southampton 1-0 Swansea
Spurs 1-0 Sunderland

Mourinho has lost 3 in a row for the first time ever, with a Europa League loss at Feyenoord sandwiched between league losses to Watford and Man City. They've only scored 2 in those 3 games. Stoke is a mess, having scored only 3 goals and conceding 14.

andyt
09-23-2016, 10:01 AM
Match week 6:

Saturday:
Man U v. Leicester 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Swansea v. Man City 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Bournemouth v. Everton
Liverpool v. Hull
Middlesbrough v. Spurs
Stoke v. West Brom
Sunderland v. Crystal Palace
Arsenal v. Chelsea 12:30/17:30 NBCSN

Sunday:
West Ham v. Southampton 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Burnley v. Watford 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

andyt
09-24-2016, 02:14 PM
Man U 4-1 Leicester
Bournemouth 1-0 Everton
Liverpool 5-1 Hull
Middlesbrough 1-2 Spurs
Stoke 1-1 West Brom
Sunderland 2-3 Crystal Palace
Swansea 1-3 Man City
Arsenal 3-0 Chelsea

Man U came out flying and wrapped that match up by halftime, scoring 4 goals in a 20 minutes span. Leicester looked really bad. Vardy and Mahrez were both subbed off at halftime. Rooney spent most of the day on the subs bench, coming on in the 83rd minute. Mata started in the #10 spot and was brilliant. West Brom got a goal at 90+1 to steal a point at Stoke. Sunderland squandered a 2-0 lead, Benteke grabbing the points at the death. Aguero came back from suspension with a brace. Arsenal beat Chelsea in the league for the first time in nearly 5 years, scoring all 3 in the first half. Chelsea looked terrible.

andyt
09-25-2016, 03:37 PM
West Ham 0-3 Southampton

Another bad showing at home for Hammers. They've allowed the most goals in the league and have the 2nd worst goal differential, 2 better than Stoke.

Kevin DeBruyne out about 4 weeks with a hamstring injury. He's been a monster for Man City this year.

jeffbear
09-26-2016, 10:26 AM
Kevin DeBruyne out about 4 weeks with a hamstring injury. He's been a monster for Man City this year.

He's been the best player in the league for sure, and maybe the world over the last month. That's just an incredibly poorly timed injury.

andyt
09-26-2016, 10:44 AM
Yesterday turned out to be a pretty good day for Ralph Krueger. He's the Chairman of Southampton but is also coaching Team Europe in the World Cup of Hockey. Team Europe beat Sweden in the semifinals yesterday to advance to a best of 3 final matchup with Canada.

andyt
09-26-2016, 05:17 PM
Burnley 2-0 Watford

Burnley was founded in 1882 and were one of the founders of the Football League in 1888. Watford was founded in 1881 and joined the Football League in 1920. This was the first time they met as members of the top division.

HNIM
09-26-2016, 08:26 PM
He's been the best player in the league for sure, and maybe the world over the last month. That's just an incredibly poorly timed injury.

Ummm.... no it's not :)

andyt
09-27-2016, 10:16 AM
BBC Wales Sport tweeted that Swansea chairman Huw Jenkins met with former USMNT coach Bob Bradley amid speculation that Francesco Guidolin's job is in jeopardy. Bradley is currently at LeHavre in the French 2nd division.


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andyt
09-30-2016, 08:42 AM
Match day 7 and another Friday night match.

Friday:
Everton v. Crystal Palace 3:00/20:00 USA Network

Saturday:
Swansea v. Liverpool 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Hull v. Chelsea 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Sunderland v. West Brom
Watford v. Bournemouth
West Ham v. Middlesbrough

Sunday:
Man U v. Stoke 7:00/12:00 NBCSN
Leicester v. Southampton 9:15/14:15 CNBC
Spurs v. Man City 9:15/14:15 NBCSN
Burnley v. Arsenal 11:30/16:30 NBCSN

andyt
09-30-2016, 04:41 PM
Everton 1-1 Crystal Palace

andyt
10-02-2016, 09:16 PM
The rest of the weekend:

Swansea 1-2 Liverpool
Hull 0-2 Chelsea
Sunderland 1-1 West Brom
Watford 2-2 Bournemouth
West Ham 1-1 Middlesbrough
Man U 1-1 Stoke
Leicester 0-0 Southampton
Spurs 2-0 Man City
Burnley 0-1 Arsenal

Spurs hand Man City their first loss of the season. Mauricio Pochettino's first win as a manager was a Copa del Rey match for Espanyol against Barcelona and Pep Guardiola. City still lead Spurs by 1, Arsenal and Liverpool by 2. West Ham, Stoke and Sunderland are the bottom 3 with Stoke and Sunderland still winless.

International break coming up, next matches the weekend of 10/14.

andyt
10-03-2016, 09:00 AM
Swansea have sacked Francesco Guidolin (on his birthday) and hired Bob Bradley as the new manager. He had been at Ligue 2 Le Havre. Bradley becomes the first America to manage a team in any of Europe's top 5 leagues.

http://www.espnfc.us/swansea-city/story/2965022/swansea-dismiss-francesco-guidolin-and-appoint-ex-united-states-boss-bob-bradley

jeffbear
10-03-2016, 09:31 AM
Swansea have sacked Francesco Guidolin (on his birthday) and hired Bob Bradley as the new manager. He had been at Ligue 2 Le Havre. Bradley becomes the first America to manage a team in any of Europe's top 5 leagues.

http://www.espnfc.us/swansea-city/story/2965022/swansea-dismiss-francesco-guidolin-and-appoint-ex-united-states-boss-bob-bradley

So long as they aren't tying Bob's hands by forcing him to use the systems they've used previously this should work well. Bob's a simple, pragmatic, no nonsense game manager and a good man manager. He's succeeded at every single previous stop.

andyt
10-03-2016, 10:07 AM
Grant Wahl said he beat out Ryan Giggs and former Villareal manager Marcelino, both of whom were also interviewed. Marcelino was just named to replace Bradley at Le Havre. Swansea didn't think that Giggs had enough experience, having never been a full time first team manager before.

andyt
10-14-2016, 09:11 AM
Match week 8, the first of 4 in a row before the next International break

Saturday:
Chelsea v. Leicester 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Man City v. Everton 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Arsenal v. Swansea CNBC
Bournemouth v. Hull
Stoke v. Sunderland
West Brom v. Spurs
Crystal Palace v. West Ham 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Middlesbrough v. Watford 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Southampton v. Burnley 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Liverpool v. Man U 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

HNIM
10-15-2016, 04:53 PM
Alderweireld blew a knee late. Bad news for Spurs.

andyt
10-16-2016, 01:56 PM
Chelsea 3-0 Leicester
Bournemouth 6-1 Hull
Arsenal 3-2 Swansea
Man City 1-1 Everton
Stoke 2-0 Sunderland
West Brom 1-1 Spurs
Crystal Palace 0-1 West Ham
Middlesbrough 0-1 Watford
Southampton 3-1 Burnley

A few costly missed/save penalties this weekend. DeBruyne and Aguero were both denied by Steklenberg. Benteke airmailed his attempt over the crossbar. Aaron Creswell made his season debut for West Ham and was sent off after picking up 2 yellows in a minute.

Man City remains top on goal differential over Arsenal. Liverpool can make it a 3 way tie with a win over Man U on Monday. Spurs are 3rd, 1 point back. Despite their win, Stoke are in the bottom 3 with Swansea and still winless Sunderland.

andyt
10-17-2016, 04:27 PM
Liverpool 0-0 Man U

jeffbear
10-18-2016, 10:31 AM
Liverpool 0-0 Man U

Dire. Dull. Retrograde.

andyt
10-18-2016, 10:39 AM
Man U had 34% possession, their lowest in the PL era.

jeffbear
10-24-2016, 10:19 AM
Weekend update sorta thing ...

Bournemouth 0 Spurs 0
Leicester 3 Crystal Palace 1
Burnley 2 Everton 1
Arsenal 0 Middlesboro 0
Stoke 2 Hull 0
West Ham 1 Sunderland 0
Swansea 0 Watford 0
Liverpool 2 West Brom 1
Man City 1 Southampton 1
Chelsea 4 Man United 0

City, Liverpool and Arsenal sit atop the table with 20 points. Chelsea and Spurs follow in 4th and 5th. Everton and Man United are next and both are reeling to different degrees. United looks like abject garbage right now. Expensive garbage, but garbage none the less. West Ham and Leicester found a bit of form, while Hull lurches quickly back to the relegation zone.

VinatieriDefinesClutch
10-24-2016, 11:39 AM
Hazard seemed to have a little extra to prove against Mourinho. He was absolutely unstoppable. I don't know if Costa fits in with the rest of the offense. Everyone else moves quickly and moves the ball quickly and then it gets to Costa and it's the same pattern of hold, try to turn and bust through everyone, if he can't, flop and try to get a foul. I wonder how things would look if they maybe tried Fabregas as a false nine. On the other hand, Costa's runs do open up space for Hazard and Pedro and without that, they might not be able to have so much great movement out there.

jeffbear
10-24-2016, 03:25 PM
Before I got to the end of your post, I was going to jump in with how much space he provides the other guys. He may not be the classic finisher that Conte would probably be most comfortable with, but he's effective in his own (deplorable) way. And he does finish his chances most of the time.

andyt
10-24-2016, 05:18 PM
Moussa Sissoko faces a 3 match ban after being charged with violent conduct for hitting Harry Arter with an elbow on Saturday. It wasn't called by the match officials.

http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2016/oct/mousa-sissoko-charged-241016

HNIM
10-25-2016, 07:03 AM
Moussa Sissoko faces a 3 match ban after being charged with violent conduct for hitting Harry Arter with an elbow on Saturday. It wasn't called by the match officials.

http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2016/oct/mousa-sissoko-charged-241016

I was hoping he'd make it through the CL group stages and Christmas fixtures before wearing out his welcome. No such luck.

andyt
10-27-2016, 01:22 PM
Jose Mourinho has been charged with misconduct by the FA for comments he made about referee Anthony Taylor before their match at Liverpool on 10/17.

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-united/story/2982526/manchester-united-manager-jose-mourinho-charged-by-fa-over-referee-anthony-taylor-comments

andyt
10-28-2016, 09:18 AM
Match week 10. Daylight savings time ends in the UK on Saturday so the time difference to Eastern Daylight Time is only 4 hours. Adjust your schedules accordingly.

Saturday:
Sunderland v. Arsenal 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Man U v. Burnley 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Spurs v. Leicester CNBC
Watford v. Hull
West Brom v. Man City
Crystal Palace v. Liverpool 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Everton v. West Ham 9:30/13:30 NBCSN
Southampton v. Chelsea 12:00/16:00 NBC

Monday:
Stoke v. Swansea 4:00/20:00 NBCSN

Tony Pulis signed a 1 year extension with West Brom through 2018.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/128590

HNIM
10-30-2016, 10:44 AM
Jose Mourinho has been charged with misconduct by the FA for comments he made about referee Anthony Taylor before their match at Liverpool on 10/17.

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-united/story/2982526/manchester-united-manager-jose-mourinho-charged-by-fa-over-referee-anthony-taylor-comments

And now under further review for getting tossed at halftime v. Burnley by Mark Clattenburg. His usual team building strategy of forging an everyone-is-against-us attitude. Getting them to play proper football might be more effective.

andyt
10-30-2016, 11:43 AM
And now under further review for getting tossed at halftime v. Burnley by Mark Clattenburg. His usual team building strategy of forging an everyone-is-against-us attitude. Getting them to play proper football might be more effective.

And after spending about £150 million on transfers and £12 million on wages for Zlatan who came on a free. It must have really killed him to give the captain's band to Mata yesterday too, who he chased out of Chelsea and spent all summer trying to move.

andyt
10-30-2016, 12:55 PM
Not to pile on (well, OK, I'm piling on), but this is the first 10 game record of the last 3 Man U managers:

David Moyes - 17 points
Louis van Gaal - 20 points
Jose Mourinho - 15 points

davemess
10-30-2016, 01:21 PM
Starting to think that Mourinho might be done as a top line manager.

He is too sullen and quick to anger these days. He had that in him before but it was always tempered by a degree of humour and self awareness.

There was a balance between the good Jose and the bad Jose that's been lost.

I don't think you can inspire players by being bitter and railing against the world all the time.

jeffbear
10-31-2016, 04:00 PM
Starting to think that Mourinho might be done as a top line manager.

He is too sullen and quick to anger these days. He had that in him before but it was always tempered by a degree of humour and self awareness.

There was a balance between the good Jose and the bad Jose that's been lost.

I don't think you can inspire players by being bitter and railing against the world all the time.

Yup. Easier to cut him some slack if he wasn't such an imperious jerk. Might be time for him to look for a National team job.

andyt
11-01-2016, 10:45 AM
And now under further review for getting tossed at halftime v. Burnley by Mark Clattenburg. His usual team building strategy of forging an everyone-is-against-us attitude. Getting them to play proper football might be more effective.

He was charged by the FA...again.

http://www.thefa.com/news/2016/nov/01/mourinho-charged-burnley-01112016

andyt
11-02-2016, 10:10 PM
Mourinho accepted the latest charge and picked up a 1 match ban. He was fined £50,000 for his comments about Anthony Taylor.

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-united/story/2987227/manchester-united-boss-jose-mourinho-banned-for-one-game-and-fined

jeffbear
11-03-2016, 03:57 PM
And once again, he earned it.

andyt
11-04-2016, 09:27 AM
Match week 11, highlighted by the first North London Derby of the season. The last international break of the year is next weekend, then the sprint to the New Year, with 9 matches in the 6 weeks between 11/19 and 1/3. Teams still playing in Europe have 2 more matches and the EFL Cup adds another. One more note...daylight savings time ends in the US on Saturday night, so don't forget to set your clocks back an hour or you'll miss the matches.

Saturday:
Man City v. Middlesbrough 11:00/15:00 NBCSN
Bournemouth v. Sunderland
Burnley v. Crystal Palace
West Ham v. Stoke
Chelsea v. Everton 1:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Arsenal v. Spurs 7:00/12:00 NBCSN
Liverpool v. Watford 9:15/14:15 NBCSN
Hull v. Southampton
Swansea v. Man U 10:00/15:00 CNBC
Leicester v. West Brom 11:30/16:30 NBCSN

davemess
11-05-2016, 01:38 PM
Bournemouth 1-2 Sunderland

Burnley 3-2 Crystal Palace

Man City 1-1 Middlesbrough

West Ham 1-1 Stoke


Sunderland finally get a win

andyt
11-05-2016, 02:55 PM
Bournemouth 1-2 Sunderland

Sunderland finally get a win

With Moyes in the stands after getting a touchline ban. Cause and effect?

davemess
11-06-2016, 01:23 PM
Arsenal 1-1 Tottenham
Hull 2-1 Southampton
Leicester 1-2 WBA
Liverpool 6-1 Watford
Swansea 1-3 Man U

andyt
11-17-2016, 05:30 PM
Match week 12 kicks off a mad dash to the New Year, with 9 league matches and the FA Cup by 1/7. Teams still in Europe have 2 more, the 6 teams still in the League Cup have 1 more.

Saturday:
Man U v. Arsenal 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Southampton v. Liverpool 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Man City
Everton v. Swansea
Stoke v. Bournemouth
Sunderland v. Hull
Watford v. Leicester
Spurs v. West Ham 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Middlesbrough v. Chelsea 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

jeffbear
11-21-2016, 11:42 AM
Weekend results

Man U 1 Arsenal 1
Sunderland 3 Hull 0
Watford 2 Leicester 1
Man City 2 Crystal Palace 1
Swansea 1 Everton 1
Bournemouth 1 Stoke 0
Southampton 0 Liverpool 0
Tottenham 3 West Ham 2
Chelsea 1 Middlesboro 0


A couple of draws at the top and look at that ... Chelsea are atop the table. Looks like Conte finally got them drilled enough to roll in with his 3 back system and start doing people defensively again. They not only are getting results, they look comfortable for the first time in awhile. Liverpool finally had a damp offensive showing and Man U showed the Arse that they aren't dead quite yet. Maybe the biggest shocker of the weekend was that City resurrected Yaya and actually got two goals out of him. That probably won a few prop bets this weekend.

HNIM
11-21-2016, 02:20 PM
I can't tell how I feel about Chelsea... on the one hand, I find them annoying, on the other hand, this just shows United fans that Jose really WAS the problem, and they got the wrong guy... hahaha.

jeffbear
11-21-2016, 02:31 PM
Yeah ... to me Chelsea and Arsenal are always annoying, so their performance is irrelevant, more or less. I kind of hate their ownership and/or fan bases regardless of everything else.

andyt
11-28-2016, 12:42 PM
Wrapping up the weekend...

Chelsea 2-1 Spurs
Hull 1-1 West Brom
Leicester 2-2 Middesbrough
Liverpool 2-0 Sunderland
Swansea 5-4 Crystal Palace
Burnley 1-2 Man City
Man U 1-1 West Ham
Southampton 1-0 Everton
Arsenal 3-1 Bournemouth
Watford 0-1 Stoke

Chelsea remain top and give Spurs their first loss of the season. Liverpool have lost Courinho for 6 weeks with an ankle injury. The Swansea/Palace match was just bananas. There were 5 goals in the last 15 minutes and stoppage time. Tomkins, an own goal and Benteke scored for Palace in a 9 minute span to turn a 3-1 deficit into a 4-3 lead. Then Llorente scored at 90+1 and 90+3 to give Swansea the win and Bob Bradley his first win. Mourinho was sent off again and Man U now have their worst start in the Premier League era, with 20 points from 13 games. Mourinho was also charged with improper conduct again. Arsenal are unbeaten in 19 matches across all competitions but remain in 4th, 3 points behind Chelsea and 2 behind Liverpool and Man City.

andyt
12-02-2016, 09:20 AM
Match week 14 kicks off with a battle for the top of the table.

Saturday:
Man City v. Chelsea 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Spurs v. Swansea 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Southampton CNBC
Stoke v. Burnley
Sunderland v. Leicester
West Brom v. Watford
West Ham v. Arsenal 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Bournemouth v. Liverpool 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Everton v. Man U 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Middlesbrough v. Hull 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

VinatieriDefinesClutch
12-03-2016, 11:33 AM
Somebody needs to explain to me how the Pereyra red card in the WBA v Watford game is a red card on Pereyra and not on McClean. I don't understand the logic that I've seen multiple times that if you're the clear aggressor in a situation, but keep your hands down by your side, you're perfectly fine. McLean shoots the ball at Pereyra while he's on the ground, kicks out at him while he's on the ground, stands over him and as Pereyra is trying to stand up, keeps pushing him down with his chest and then keeps shoving him down with his chest so Pereyra puts his hands on his stomach to keep him from continuing the aggression that he's been doing for the past ten seconds. The result of course, Pereyra gets a red and McLean just gets a yellow. They need to seriously look at how they interpret violent conduct, because so often the more physically aggressive person is not the one who is more severely punished.

davemess
12-03-2016, 11:36 AM
Man City 1-3 Chelsea
Spurs 5-0 Swansea
Crystal Palace 3-0 Southampton
Stoke 2-0 Burnley
Sunderland 2-1 Leicester
West Brom 3-1 Watford


The City vs Chelsea game was a beaut. City should have scored 2 or 3 before Chelsea roared back in the 2nd half, missed chances cost them (De Bruyne had an open net for 5 yards and hit the bar).

Game ended with a dust up after AgŁero went in knee high on David Luiz and got him self a red. Chalobah pushed Aguero over and probably could have gone as well. After that is was chaos but Fernandinho managed to get himself caught shoving Fabregas in the throat away from the crowd and got himself a red (didn't help that Cesc went arse over tit overs the advertising boarding).

I think we could see a few other players pick up cards of various colours when the league review the video. Fabregas slapped Fernandinho, Chalobahs push and I am sure I saw another player throw a punch/slap that connected.

andyt
12-03-2016, 09:01 PM
West Ham 1-5 Arsenal

I think the FA discipline office will be busy this week. Aguero and Fernandinho got what they deserved. Aguero will miss 4 matches because it's his 2nd suspension of the year. Fernandinho will miss 3. Otamendi will miss next week's match for accumulated yellows. I didn't see Fabregas slap Fernandinho, neither did Steve Bower or Graham LeSaux because they were wondering why Fernandinho went off like he did. Chalobah probably gets a red.

davemess
12-04-2016, 01:31 PM
Everton 1 - 1 Man Utd
Bournemouth 4-3 Liverpool


Its becoming increasingly clear that the league winners are probably going to be the team that defends the least worst.

None of the title contenders have a defence that gives any confidence that they wont wilt under some pressure. Chelsea had a good run after going to 3 at the back but even they have looked shaky at times in the last few weeks when Spurs and Man City figured out that playing in the channels behind the wingback might be a good idea.

andyt
12-04-2016, 08:09 PM
Klopp was very gracious in defeat but he had to be gutted, watching his squad give up 3 goals in the last 20 minutes.

andyt
12-05-2016, 05:23 PM
Wrapping up the weekend...

Middlesbrough 1-0 Hull

All of the good feelings that Hull generated by winning their first two has gone down the drain, with only a win and 2 draws since then. They're tied with Sunderland for 18th, trailing by 8 goals (with a league worst -18 GD).

jeffbear
12-06-2016, 09:49 AM
Its becoming increasingly clear that the league winners are probably going to be the team that defends the least worst.

Agreed. The team that can develop some honest consistency in the back and turn it into the best record against the other contenders is going to nip away with this one. Who that might end up being, I have no clue right now. I suspect Arsenal but they'll probably either get too injured or have a weird run of wastefulness sooner or later.

andyt
12-06-2016, 05:43 PM
Agreed. The team that can develop some honest consistency in the back and turn it into the best record against the other contenders is going to nip away with this one. Who that might end up being, I have no clue right now. I suspect Arsenal but they'll probably either get too injured or have a weird run of wastefulness sooner or later.

Arsenal have been pretty stable at the back so far. Mustafi has stepped in well for Mertesacker, but they're missing Bellerin in a big way. They've been using Gabriel, a center back at right fullback the last few matches, with Carl Jenkinson still working back from 2 bad injuries.

andyt
12-08-2016, 05:10 PM
Match day 15, followed by midweek matches on Tuesday and Wednesday

Saturday:
Watford v. Everton 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Arsenal v. Stoke 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Swansea v. Sunderland CNBC
Burnley v. Bournemouth
Hull v. Crystal Palace
Leicester v. Man City 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Chelsea v. West Brom 7:00/12:00 NBCSN
Man U v. Spurs 9:15/13:15 NBCSN
Southampton v. Middlesbrough
Liverpool v. West Ham 11:30/16:30 NBCSN

jeffbear
12-09-2016, 03:03 PM
Swansea are entering the portion of their schedule were Bradley can actually make some headway ... IF he's got the players to do so. Their ownership gave him a public show of long term support this week in that face of mounting pressure from their fans.

andyt
12-09-2016, 04:28 PM
Leicester could get off the schneid too. Man City will be without Aguero, Otamendi and Fernandinho. Leicester got spanked by Porto on Wednesday but they started a bunch of nobodies.

davemess
12-10-2016, 11:13 AM
Arsenal 3-1 Stoke City
Burnley 3-2 Bournemouth
Hull City 3-3 Crystal Palace
Swansea City 3-0 Sunderland
Watford 3-2 Everton


All 5 home teams got 3 goals today.

davemess
12-10-2016, 02:22 PM
Leicester screwed up the run

Leicester 4-2 Man City


For those counting at home, that's 29 goals from 6 games at as near as damn 5 goals per game. This is why we love the EPL folks.

andyt
12-10-2016, 08:06 PM
Chelsea facing points deduction? The brawl with Man City last weekend was the 5th time in the last 9 months that they e been charged with failure to control their players. The last time points were deducted for that in the top flight was 1990, when Arsenal and Man U were both sanctioned.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-facing-points-deduction-punishment-9430663#ICID=sharebar_facebook

davemess
12-11-2016, 11:21 AM
Chelsea 1-0 WBA
Southampton 1-0 Middlesboro
Man U 1-0 Tottenham

andyt
12-11-2016, 04:37 PM
Liverpool 2-2 West Ham

For the first time, no away sides won this weekend.

andyt
12-12-2016, 10:15 AM
Midweek soccer for Matchweek 16.

Tuesday:
Everton v. Arsenal 14:45/19:45 NBCSN
Bournemouth v. Leicester

Wednesday:
Middlesbrough v. Liverpool 14:45/19:45
Sunderland v. Chelsea
West Ham v. Burnley
Crystal Palace v. Man U 15:00/20:00 NBCSN
Man City v. Watford
Stoke v. Southampton
Spurs v. Hull
West Brom v. Swansea

andyt
12-13-2016, 04:44 PM
Everton 2-1 Arsenal
Bournemouth 1-0 Leicester

The winless streak for visiting sides continues. Arsenal's league unbeaten streak ends at 14 on an Ashley Williams header in the 86th minute. But Jagielka was sent off in stoppage time and will miss the Merseyside Derby on the weekend. And Leicester can't build on the weekend's win over Man City.

andyt
12-14-2016, 05:17 PM
Middlesbrough 0-3 Liverpool
Sunderland 0-1 Chelsea
West Ham 1-0 Burnley
Crystal Palace 1-2 Man U
Man City 2-0 Watford
Stoke 0-0 Southampton
Spurs 3-0 Hull
West Brom 3-1 Swansea

andyt
12-16-2016, 10:16 AM
Match week 17, featuring a battle for 2nd place on Sunday and the first Merseyside Derby of the year on Monday:

Saturday:
Crystal Palace v. Chelsea 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Middlesbrough v. Swansea 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Stoke v. Leicester CNBC
Sunderland v. Watford
West Ham v. Hull
West Brom v. Man U 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Bournemouth v. Southampton 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Man City v. Arsenal 11:00/16:00 NBCSN
Spurs v. Burnley CNBC

Monday:
Everton v. Liverpool 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

jeffbear
12-19-2016, 09:57 AM
Saturday

Chelsea 1 Palace 0
West Ham 1 Hull 0
Stoke 2 Leicester 2
Middlesbrough 3 Swansea 0
Sunderland 1 Watford 0
Man United 2 West Brom 0

Sunday
Southampton 3 Bournemouth 1
Man City 2 Arsenal 1
Spurs 2 Burnley 1

Missed all of it, too. I had a few scant hours to spend on football this weekend and I spent them enjoying Villa beating QPR in the Championship.

andyt
12-19-2016, 10:45 AM
Arsenal had just a brutal week:

Monday - Draw Bayern in the UCL
Tuesday - Lose to Everton
Wednesday - See all the teams around them in the table win
Saturday - See all the teams around them in the table win
Sunday - Lose to Man City

Leicester came from 2-0 down and with 10 men for the last 62 minutes with Vardy seeing straight red in the 28th minute.

HNIM
12-20-2016, 11:58 AM
Arsenal had just a brutal week:



Golly. Too bad. ;)

andyt
12-20-2016, 02:12 PM
Golly. Too bad. ;)

Fortunately, I wasn't looking for sympathy, knowing full well how much I would get from you lot.

andyt
12-26-2016, 08:26 AM
Happy Boxing Day! The crazy schedule compression with the FA Cup 3rd Round Proper will have every team playing 4 matches over the next 2 weeks.
Today:
Watford v. Crystal Palace 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Man U v. Sunderland 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Chelsea v. Bournemouth CNBC
Arsenal v. West Brom
Burnley v. Middlesbrough
Leicester v. Everton
Swansea v. West Ham
Hull v. Man City 12:15/17:15 NBCSN

Tuesday:
Liverpool v. Stoke 12:15/17:15 NBCSN

Wednesday:
Southampton v. Spurs 2:45/19:45 NBCSN

davemess
12-26-2016, 01:10 PM
Watford 1-1 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 1-0 West Bromwich Albion
Burnley 1-0 Middlesbrough
Chelsea 3-0 Bournemouth
Leicester City 0-2 Everton
Manchester United 3-1 Sunderland
Swansea City 1-4 West Ham United

andyt
12-26-2016, 02:02 PM
Hull 0-3 Man City

HNIM
12-26-2016, 05:13 PM
Hard to see Bradley lasting much longer. One dreadful result after another.

andyt
12-29-2016, 03:58 PM
Is everyone ready for a soccer orgy? Match weeks 19 and 20 are back to back, with matches every day between Friday and Wednesday

Friday:
Hull v. Everton 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

Saturday:
Man U v. Middlesbrough 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Burnley v. Sunderland
Chelsea v. Stoke
Leicester v. West Ham
Southampton v. West Brom
Swansea v. Bournemouth
Liverpool v. Man City 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Watford v. Spurs 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Arsenal v. Crystal Palace 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Middlesbrough v. Liecester 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Sunderland v. Liverpool 10?00/15:00 NBCSN
Man City v. Burnley CNBC
Everton v. Southampton
West Brom v. Hull
West Ham v Man U 12:15:17:15 NBCSN

Tuesday:
Bournemouth v. Arsenal 2:45/19:45 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Swansea 3:00/20:00
Stoke v. Watford

Wednesday:
Spurs v. Chelsea 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

jeffbear
12-30-2016, 11:45 AM
Personal opinion but I have long thought it absolutely stupid that the Prem runs teams through an absolute sausage grinder at this time of year. It's like they celebrate European group stages getting finished by punishing everybody. The standard of play inevitably sinks, managers end up losing their job due to a bad week or two ... even fans get burned out on the prospect of all those expensive tickets over a two week stretch. It's just dumb.

andyt
12-30-2016, 01:00 PM
Personal opinion but I have long thought it absolutely stupid that the Prem runs teams through an absolute sausage grinder at this time of year. It's like they celebrate European group stages getting finished by punishing everybody. The standard of play inevitably sinks, managers end up losing their job due to a bad week or two ... even fans get burned out on the prospect of all those expensive tickets over a two week stretch. It's just dumb.

And then straight into the 3rd Round Proper of the FA Cup next weekend.

The Bundesliga hasn't played since 12/21. They don't come back to league play until 1/20 weekend. Bayern Munich has 2 friendlies on 1/10 and 1/14.
Ligue 1 hasn't played since 12/21. They come back to the Coupe de France next weekend.
Serie A hasn't played since 12/21. They come back with league matches next weekend.
La Liga hasn't played since 12/18 but they did have Copa del Rey matches 12/21-23. They come back in the middle of next week with the Copa del Rey and with league play next weekend. Barcelona, for example has Atletico in the Copa on 1/5 and 1/11 and league matches on 1/8 and 1/14, so that's 4 matches in 9 days.

HNIM
12-31-2016, 08:21 AM
Snodgrass had two beautiful free kicks for Hull. One just caught the inside joint between the bar and the right post and kicked across and out the goal mouth, the other curled just in on the other side. Too bad Hull couldn't hang on, they need those points badly.

davemess
12-31-2016, 11:22 AM
Burnely 4-1 Sunderland
Chelsea 4-2 Stoke
Leicester 1-0 West Ham
Man U 2-1 M'Boro
Southampton 1-2 WBA
Swansea 0-3 Bournmouth

HNIM
01-01-2017, 02:18 PM
Watching Giroud's goal made all the joints below my waist hurt.

davemess
01-01-2017, 02:24 PM
Watching Giroud's goal made all the joints below my waist hurt.

That was a crazy crazy goal.

Arsenal 2-0 Palace
Watford 1-4 Spurs

andyt
01-01-2017, 04:43 PM
Watching Giroud's goal made all the joints below my waist hurt.

Really needed the slow motion replay to appreciate that.

jeffbear
01-02-2017, 04:01 PM
I'm glad some of you are following this avalanche of games. For me it's just been too much. I figure I'll settle back in front of my TV on Saturday and see how the dust settled.

andyt
01-02-2017, 05:01 PM
Middlesbrough 0-0 Leicester
Everton 3-0 Southampton
Man City 2-1 Burnley
Sunderland 2-2 Liverpool
West Brom 3-1 Hull
West Ham 0-2 Man U

Mike Dean strikes again, sending off West Ham's Sofiane Feghouli in the 15th minute. I only saw the replay but thought it was an awful call. Feghouli lost possession of the ball and slid to try to move it forward. Phil Jones slid into him. Dean let play continue and then blew the whistle. If anything, it was a foul on Jones.

HNIM
01-02-2017, 08:04 PM
I watched live and the announcers hardly stopped talking about it for the whole game. It was awful.

VinatieriDefinesClutch
01-03-2017, 01:08 PM
I have a very simple test to know if someone is a bad ref in almost any sport. If I know your name, you're probably a bad ref.

andyt
01-03-2017, 09:52 PM
Bournemouth 3-3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1-2 Swansea
Stoke 2-0 Watford

Arsenal spotted Bournemouth to a 3-0 lead then came roaring back with goals at 70, 75 and 90+2. Bournemouth played with 10 men for the last 7 minutes. Big Sam is 0-2 and Swansea picks up their 2nd away win, with new manger Paul Clement wandering down to the technical area from the stands in both halves.

HNIM
01-04-2017, 07:06 AM
Bournemouth looked like a top six side for the first 70 minutes then hacked up a hairball. They were in complete control of that game to that point, it wasn't even close.

And Swansea looked like a bunch of rec leaguers trying to clear the ball. Don't care if they won, they need a massive makeover, or they'll be in League 2 in three years.

andyt
01-04-2017, 06:26 PM
Spurs 2-0 Chelsea

Chelsea's 13 match winning streak is over. Pochettino's streak continues; he's never lost a London Derby match at home, 9 wins, 4 draws. Spurs climb to 3rd on goal differential over Man City.

The league is off for the weekend with the 3rd Round Proper of the FA Cup. Back to league play on 1/14.

andyt
01-07-2017, 07:43 AM
The red card that Dean dropped on Feghouli was overturned on appeal. That makes 5 of his last 6 red cards that have been overturned.

Kanye West's producer is also named Mike Dean and has the twitter handle @realmikedean. He's not amused with being confused with the referee.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePLZone/status/817719370625548293

andyt
01-13-2017, 10:48 AM
Match week 21.

Saturday:
Spurs v. West Brom 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Swansea v. Arsenal 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
West Ham v. Crystal Palace CNBC
Burnley v. Southampton
Hull v. Bournemouth
Sunderland v. Stoke
Watford v. Middlesbrough
Leicester v. Chelsea 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Everton v. Man City 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Man U v. Liverpool 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

davemess
01-13-2017, 03:09 PM
Well this throws things up into the air


Diego Costa has been dropped from Chelsea's squad to face Leicester after a row with manager Antonio Conte, according to Sky sources.

It is understood he has not trained for the last three days after he was the subject of a £30m-per-year offer from a club in the Chinese Super League.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10727724/diego-costa-dropped-by-chelsea-for-leicester-game-after-offer-from-chinese-super-league-club

HNIM
01-13-2017, 04:18 PM
Good riddance if he goes.

davemess
01-14-2017, 12:12 PM
Tottenham 4-0 West Brom
Sunderland 1-3 Stoke
Swansea 0-4 Arsenal
Watford 0-0 M'Boro
West Ham 3-0 C Palace

davemess
01-14-2017, 01:39 PM
Leicester 0-3 Chelsea

HNIM
01-15-2017, 10:42 AM
Everton 4-0 Manchester City. I caught the last 20 minutes. City controlled possession but were positively shambolic at the back. I've been hearing about Ademola Lookman for the last year and he got his first PL appearance, coming on in the 90th. He scored in the 93rd.

davemess
01-15-2017, 11:28 AM
Hugely impressed with Tom Davies for Everton today.

18 year old kid was the best player on the field today, played his role well and really drove Everton forward when the opportunity arose.

davemess
01-15-2017, 01:52 PM
Man U 1-1 Liverpool

jeffbear
01-16-2017, 10:21 AM
Everton 4-0 Manchester City. I caught the last 20 minutes. City controlled possession but were positively shambolic at the back. I've been hearing about Ademola Lookman for the last year and he got his first PL appearance, coming on in the 90th. He scored in the 93rd.

No clue where the expletive deleted that came from. I mean, Tom Davies was an injection of energy and quality but they had been so blunt in their finishing thus far that seeing them convert four was a shock. Even against whatever City were doing in the back. Pep looked suicidal late in that one ... or maybe homicidal.

andyt
01-17-2017, 08:47 AM
The red card that Dean dropped on Feghouli was overturned on appeal. That makes 5 of his last 6 red cards that have been overturned.

Kanye West's producer is also named Mike Dean and has the twitter handle @realmikedean. He's not amused with being confused with the referee.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePLZone/status/817719370625548293

Mike Dean has been demoted to the Championship. He's working Barnsley v. Leeds this weekend.

jeffbear
01-17-2017, 10:47 AM
Mike Dean has been demoted to the Championship. He's working Barnsley v. Leeds this weekend.

Aw maaaaaannnnn. Dean screwed Villa over a couple of times last season when we still had a shot at turning it around and avoiding relegation. And now that MFer gets demoted so he can stick it to us some more? Brilliant.

HNIM
01-18-2017, 02:56 PM
Mike Dean has been demoted to the Championship. He's working Barnsley v. Leeds this weekend.

Spurs, of course, are disappointed (http://www.thickaccent.com/2017/01/19/tottenham-fans-gutted-after-mike-dean-gets-demoted-to-the-championship-tweets/)...

andyt
01-20-2017, 09:24 AM
Match week 22:

Saturday:
Liverpool v. Swansea 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Stoke v. Man U 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Everton CNBC
Bournemouth v. Watford
Middlesbrough v. West Ham
West Brom v. Sunderland
Man City v. Spurs 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Southampton v. Leicester 7:00/12:00 NBCSN
Arsenal v. Burnley 9:15/14:15 NBCSN
Chelse v. Hull 11:30/16:30 NBCSN

davemess
01-21-2017, 11:00 AM
Liverpool 2-3 Swansea
Bounmouth 2-2 Watford
M'Boro 1-3 West Ham
WBA 2-0 Sunderland
C Palace 0-1 Everton
Stoke 1-1 Man U

davemess
01-21-2017, 01:56 PM
Manchester City 2-2 Tottenham

davemess
01-22-2017, 12:34 PM
Southampton 3-0 Leicester
Arsenal 2-1 Burnley
Chelsea 2-0 Hull

Only a 7th minute of injury time penalty for Arsenal stopped this from being a perfect weekend for Chelsea (they win, everybody below them drops points)

andyt
01-22-2017, 04:38 PM
Hull midfielder Ryan Mason is in the hospital with a head injury after colliding with Gary Cahill. He was down for about 8 minutes and was taken off on a stretcher wearing an oxygen mask.

andyt
01-22-2017, 05:09 PM
Hull released a statement. Mason has a skull fracture and underwent successful surgery. He said in stable condition.

http://www.hullcitytigers.com/news/article/2016-17/club-statement-ryan-mason-3533371.aspx

HNIM
01-23-2017, 10:45 AM
Watched MC-Spurs at a local Spurs pub. Great fun. All pleased with a lucky point.

Awful about Mason, but at least it happened in London where he'd have quick access to quality neurosurgery, and proper diagnostic equipment. With injuries like that both time and very highly skilled physician care are critical.

andyt
01-27-2017, 02:24 PM
Arsene Wenger fined 25,000 pounds and handed a 4 match touchline ban for verbal abuse of and making contact with the 4th official last weekend.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38777152

andyt
01-30-2017, 10:59 AM
Oh, look, more midweek matches. Matchweek 23, a few days after most of the league played in the FA Cup.

Tuesday:
Arsenal v. Watford 2:45/19:45
Bournemouth v. Crystal Palace
Burnley v. Leicester
Middlesbrough v. West Brom
Sunderland v. Spurs
Swansea v. Southampton
Liverpool v. Chelsea 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

Wednesday:
West Ham v. Man City 2:45/19:45
Man U v. Hull 3:00/20:00 NBCSN
Stoke v. Everton

andyt
01-30-2017, 01:22 PM
Hull released a statement. Mason has a skull fracture and underwent successful surgery. He said in stable condition.

http://www.hullcitytigers.com/news/article/2016-17/club-statement-ryan-mason-3533371.aspx

Ryan Mason was released from the hospital today, just over a week after the skull fracture.

http://mobile.hullcitytigers.com/news/article/2016-17/ryan-mason-discharged-from-hospital-3546201.aspx


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jeffbear
01-30-2017, 02:13 PM
Oh, look, more midweek matches. Matchweek 23, a few days after most of the league played in the FA Cup.

Tuesday:
Arsenal v. Watford 2:45/19:45
Bournemouth v. Crystal Palace
Burnley v. Leicester
Middlesbrough v. West Brom
Sunderland v. Spurs
Swansea v. Southampton
Liverpool v. Chelsea 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

Wednesday:
West Ham v. Man City 2:45/19:45
Man U v. Hull 3:00/20:00 NBCSN
Stoke v. Everton

Gotta say ... I badly missed the EPL this weekend with the NHL on their All Star break, my NCSU team out of twn getting killed and nothing left to watch but that boring US/Serbia friendly on Sunday.

andyt
01-30-2017, 02:27 PM
Gotta say ... I badly missed the EPL this weekend with the NHL on their All Star break, my NCSU team out of twn getting killed and nothing left to watch but that boring US/Serbia friendly on Sunday.

I got by with the FA Cup matches. But there were only 6 on TV and 2 were ridiculously early and I dozed through them.

andyt
02-03-2017, 08:53 AM
Match Week 24 kicks off with a London Derby. Arsenal can do the double over Chelsea for the first time since 03-04. Since losing at the Emirates in September, Chelsea have only lost once in the league, to Spurs on 1/4.

Saturday:
Chelsea v. Arsenal 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Sunderland 10:00/15:00 CNBC
Hull v. Liverpool NBCSN
Everton v. Bournemouth
Southampton v. West Ham
Watford v. Burnley
West Brom v. Stoke
Spurs v. Middlesbrough 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Man City v. Swansea 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Leicester v. Man U 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

davemess
02-04-2017, 10:55 AM
Chelsea 3-1 Arsenal
Watford 2-1 Burnley
West Brom 1-0 Stoke
Hull 2-0 Liverpool
C Palace 0-4 Sunderland
Southampton 1-3 West Ham

Oh yeah and this rather dull affair happened as well

Everton 6-3 Bournemouth

davemess
02-04-2017, 12:51 PM
Jack Rodwell has won a Premier League match in which he has started for the first time in 1,370 days.

The Sunderland midfielder, 25, played in a 4-0 win at Crystal Palace, three years, eight months and 29 days after starting in a Manchester City victory.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38867929

That's insane, he might not be a star or anything but he is a pretty decent player to have gone that long without starting a win.

davemess
02-04-2017, 02:12 PM
Tottenham 1-0 Middlesbrough

HNIM
02-05-2017, 07:43 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38867929

That's insane, he might not be a star or anything but he is a pretty decent player to have gone that long without starting a win.

He's still lucky to have ended the streak. He should have drawn straight red on Tuesday for his attempt to saw Mousa Dembele's legs in half, and been out for this one.

andyt
02-05-2017, 12:11 PM
Mike Dean's exile from the Prem was short-lived. He called Man City v. Swansea today.

andyt
02-05-2017, 12:22 PM
Swansea 1-2 Man City
Leicester 0-3 Man U

City get a goal from Gabriel Jesus in the 92nd minute to rescue the win. Leicester haven't scored a goal in the league since 12/31. They're only 1 point from safety. They have to go to Derby County for a FA Cup replay on Wednesday and then at Swansea on Sunday. A loss or draw in that could see them drop into the relegation zone. Hull are at Arsenal, Crystal Palace are at Stoke, Sunderland host Southampton.

andyt
02-09-2017, 04:19 PM
Matchweek 25

Saturday:

Arsenal v. Hull 7:30/12?30 NBCSN
Man U v. Watford 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Middlesbrough v. Everton CNBC
Stoke v. Crystal Palace
Sunderland v. Southampton
West Ham v. West Brom
Liverpool v. Spurs 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Burnley v. Chelsea 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Swansea v. Leicester 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Bournemouth v. Man City 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

andyt
02-10-2017, 03:24 PM
There are very strong rumors that Arsene Wenger is stepping down at the end of the season. His contract is up but he's been offered a 2 year extension.

http://www.espnfc.us/arsenal/story/3057678/arsene-wenger-says-time-at-arsenal-coming-to-an-end-ian-wright

andyt
02-12-2017, 11:54 AM
Arsenal 2-- Hull
Man U 2-0 Watford
Middlesbrough 0-0 Everton
Stoke 1-0 Crystal Palace
Sunderland 0-4 Southampton
West Ham 2-2 West Bromwich
Liverpool 2-0 Spurs
Burnley 1-1 Chelsea
Swansea 2-0 Leicester

Leicester still haven't scored a goal in the league in calendar 2017. They're only 1 point above relegation only because everyone below them also lost. Swansea are improbably up to 15th.

andyt
02-13-2017, 04:06 PM
Bournemouth 0-2 Man City

City jump up to 2nd, 8 points behind Chelsea, pushing Spurs and Arsenal down to 3rd and 4th, respectively.

andyt
02-23-2017, 09:45 AM
Matchweek 26. Only 8 matches this weekend because of the EFL Cup final between Man U and Southampton. The Manchester Derby is postponed and Arsenal also get the weekend off.

Saturday:
Chelsea v. Swansea 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Middlesbrough CNBC
Everton v. Sunderland
Hull v. Burnley
West Brom v. Bournemouth
Watford v. West Ham 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Spurs v. Stoke 8:30/13:30 NBCSN

Monday:
Leicester v. Liverpool 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

andyt
02-23-2017, 04:13 PM
A few months late, but Leicester finally sacked Ranieri. For the 2nd year in a row, the defending PL champion has sacked their manager.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39070927

VinatieriDefinesClutch
02-23-2017, 09:04 PM
I'm sorry, this is crazy. He won the premier league with Leicester. They're also still in the champions league.

andyt
02-24-2017, 08:16 AM
I'm sorry, this is crazy. He won the premier league with Leicester. They're also still in the champions league.

They also haven't scored a goal in the league this calendar year and are only 1 point from relegation and 2 points off the bottom of the table.

jeffbear
02-24-2017, 09:36 AM
I'm sorry, this is crazy. He won the premier league with Leicester. They're also still in the champions league.

I mean ... yeah, but practical too. The rate they're going, relegation is a VERY real option. And with no goals in the calendar year in the league, that HAS to be priority one. It's one thing to take a ribbing for winning the league and then reverting to suckville. It's another to be the the boss of the team that went from winning to relegation. You simply can't sit by quietly and watch that happen if you're the chairman.

HNIM
02-24-2017, 02:54 PM
I watched their win over Man City and thought they had turned it around, but that's looking more like their swan song. They've been apocalyptically bad. And the "how could they do this" from the English football press and commentators is just... silly. I like the guy, but this has been too long coming, really.

If you just looked at W-L records you might argue that for the last two years, N'Dolo Kante has been the best DM in history.

davemess
02-26-2017, 12:20 PM
The Ranieri thing is just so sad.

We all knew the players were going to drop off some this year but this far. Players have fallen so far off their levels from last year its a joke.

davemess
02-27-2017, 01:50 PM
Shouldn't come as a shock but Leicester are back to the same formation and lineup they used most of last year (with Ndidi for Kante).

andyt
02-27-2017, 05:38 PM
Shouldn't come as a shock but Leicester are back to the same formation and lineup they used most of last year (with Ndidi for Kante).

And they scored 3 goals, including a brace from Vardy to beat Liverpool 3-1.

The rest of the weekend:

Chelsea 3-1 Swansea
Crystal Palace 1-0 Middlesbrough
Everton 2-0 Sunderland
Hull 1-1 Burnley
West Brom 2-1 Bournemouth
Watford 1-1 West Ham
Spurs 4-0 Stoke

Chelsea remain 10 points clear at the top with Spurs 2nd, Man City 3rd and Arsenal 4th. City and Arsenal didn't play on the weekend. No changes in the bottom 3, but Crystal Palace and Hull swap positions in 18th and 19th. Palace and Boro are tied on points, but Boro have a 4 goal advantage.

davemess
03-04-2017, 10:41 AM
Man Utd 1-1 Bournemouth

Crazy game.

Ref gave 2 Pens, both of which were pretty soft. Ibra missed his.

Mings stamped on Ibras head, then 30 seconds later Ibra smashes him in the face with an elbow......... neither player was booked.

However Bournemouth's Captain was sent off (2nd yellow) for pushing over Ibra after he elbowed Mings.

Oh yeah and Arter should have been sent off as well but wasn't.


Fair to say the Ref didn't have much control over the action today.

davemess
03-04-2017, 10:51 AM
Leicester 3-1 Hull
West Brom 0-2 Crystal Palace
Watford 3-4 Southampton
Stoke 2-0 Middlesbrough
Swansea 3-2 Burnley

andyt
03-05-2017, 04:12 AM
Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal

Luis Enrique, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

VinatieriDefinesClutch
03-05-2017, 10:34 AM
The ref of the Burnley vs Swansea match got bailed out by the Swans coming back to win after giving the wrong team the foul on a hand ball in the box giving Burnley a penalty instead of correctly giving Swansea a free kick.

davemess
03-05-2017, 11:46 AM
Tottenham 3-2 Everton
Sunderland 0-2 Man City

davemess
03-05-2017, 11:47 AM
The ref of the Burnley vs Swansea match got bailed out by the Swans coming back to win after giving the wrong team the foul on a hand ball in the box giving Burnley a penalty instead of correctly giving Swansea a free kick.
Yeah that was crazy. Not sure how the ref gets that wrong when all the Swansea players are appealing for handball but none of the Burnley guys are claiming a Pen.

jeffbear
03-06-2017, 09:27 AM
Man Utd 1-1 Bournemouth

Crazy game.

Ref gave 2 Pens, both of which were pretty soft. Ibra missed his.

Mings stamped on Ibras head, then 30 seconds later Ibra smashes him in the face with an elbow......... neither player was booked.

However Bournemouth's Captain was sent off (2nd yellow) for pushing over Ibra after he elbowed Mings.

Oh yeah and Arter should have been sent off as well but wasn't.


Fair to say the Ref didn't have much control over the action today.


This one and Orlando City opening their new stadium on MLS opening weekend were the only games I got a chance to watch this weekend. I got my money's worth. That was NUTS.

davemess
03-06-2017, 02:34 PM
No surprise to see both Zlatan and Mings charged today. Zlatan will get 3 games but FA seem to be pushing for more with Mings


The FA statement added: "Furthermore, the FA has submitted a claim that the standard punishment that would otherwise apply for the misconduct committed by the Bournemouth defender is 'clearly insufficient'."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39182905

Both incidents equally bad for me but I get it from the FAs point of view. Players get 3 games for elbows on a somewhat regular basis so it would be hard to push for more than that here (although the revenge part could be argued to further the punishment). The Stamp happens so rarely that they are free to go for more as a deterrent

andyt
03-06-2017, 05:59 PM
I thought Mings' stomp was accidental. He was still off balance as he tried to get up and get back into the play.

West Ham 1-2 Chelsea

Chelsea remain 10 points clear at the top.

HNIM
03-07-2017, 04:16 PM
Disagree. Granted I only played at 1/10 the speed, but I think your instincts would normally be to avoid doing that, to the extent of just pulling your leg back and letting yourself fall on the guy.

In any case, we can all agree the ref bottled it to the nth degree.

davemess
03-08-2017, 01:53 PM
Mings gets 5 games

Ibrahimovic gets 3.

andyt
03-08-2017, 07:17 PM
Midweek football...

Man City 0-0 Stoke

andyt
03-10-2017, 07:51 AM
An abbreviated match week 28 with the FA Cup Quarterfinals also being played. Daylight Savings Time in the US starts on Saturday night.

Saturday:
Everton v. West Brom 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Hull v. Swansea CNBC
Bournemouth v. West Ham

Sunday:
Liverpool v. Burnley 12:00/16:00 NBCSN

davemess
03-11-2017, 10:46 AM
Everton 3-0 WBA
Bournemouth 3-2 West Ham
Hull 2-1 Swansea

davemess
03-12-2017, 01:56 PM
Liverpool 2-1 Burnley



Craig Shakespeare has been appointed Leicester City manager until the end of the season.

The 53-year-old has been in caretaker charge since Claudio Ranieri was sacked on 23 February, nine months after winning the Premier League title.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39228304

Not a huge surprise after their uptick in form.

andyt
03-16-2017, 08:50 AM
Middlesbrough have sacked Aitor Karanka. Assistant Steve Agnew takes over.

http://mobile.mfc.co.uk/news/article/2016/middlesbrough-fc-boro-aitor-karanka-club-statement-3628908.aspx


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andyt
03-17-2017, 07:34 AM
Matchweek 29.

Saturday:
West Brom v. Arsenal 8:30/12:30 NBCSN
Stoke v. Chelsea 11:00/15:00 NBCSN
Everton v. Hull CNBC
Crystal Palace v. Watford
Sunderland v. Burnley
West Ham v. Leicester
Bournemouth v. Swansea 1:30/17:30

Sunday:
Middlesbrough v. Man U 8:00/12:00 NBCSN
Spurs v. Southampton 10:15/14:15 NBCSN
Man City v. Liverpool 12:30/16:30 NBC

davemess
03-18-2017, 12:19 PM
Crystal Palace 1-0 Watford
Stoke City 1-2 Chelsea
West Ham 2-3 Leicester
Sunderland 0-0 Burnley
Everton 4-0 Hull
WBA 3-1 Arsenal

davemess
03-19-2017, 11:46 AM
M'Boro 1-3 Man U
Tottenham 2-1 Southampton

andyt
03-19-2017, 02:04 PM
Man City 1-1 Liverpool

A very entertaining match.

HNIM
03-20-2017, 06:43 PM
Watching Arsenal go down in flames against West Brom - mind you, WBA are a reasonably competent side, whatever you think of Pulis, fwiw - I've never heard two announcers so thoroughly proclaiming "the king is dead". So two days later, Twitter is blowing up with the rumours of a new two-year contract - one that Piers Morgan accuses Wenger of having leaked to test the waters (https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/843757408782573569), as if Wenger were so stupid as to not know already.

Stay tuned.

andyt
03-20-2017, 08:34 PM
Watching Arsenal go down in flames against West Brom - mind you, WBA are a reasonably competent side, whatever you think of Pulis, fwiw - I've never heard two announcers so thoroughly proclaiming "the king is dead". So two days later, Twitter is blowing up with the rumours of a new two-year contract - one that Piers Morgan accuses Wenger of having leaked to test the waters (https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/843757408782573569), as if Wenger were so stupid as to not know already.

Stay tuned.

That 2 year contract has been on the table for a while. He said he made his decision and will let the world know what it is soon. #wengerout

andyt
03-21-2017, 05:50 AM
Bastian Schweinsteiger is leaving Man U for the Chicago Fire of MLS, subject to a medical and US Visa. The move had been rumored for several months, as he's fallen out of favor with Mourinho and made only 1 appearance since the January window closed.

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3086948/bastian-schweinsteiger-set-to-join-chicago-fire-from-man-united-reports

davemess
03-25-2017, 12:50 AM
Republic of Ireland skipper Seamus Coleman suffered a broken leg in his side's goalless draw with Wales at the Aviva Stadium.

The Everton defender, 28, was given oxygen before being carried off following the challenge with Neil Taylor, who was sent off.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39388290
Sounds like a real bad one :(

HNIM
03-25-2017, 09:37 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39388290
Sounds like a real bad one :(

If you have a chance to see it... don't. It's up there with Theismann. I didn't want to see it but was scrolling through another board and some ******* posted a photo. This will pretty much make a hash of Everton's chances at overtaking Arsenal.

The international schedule must be fixed.

andyt
03-31-2017, 12:10 PM
And we're back with the 10 match run-in to the end of the season. No international breaks and a couple of mid week matches thrown in for good measure. There are still 6 postponed matches to be scheduled. But we start the weekend with the Merseyside Derby.

Saturday:
Liverpool v. Everton 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Chelsea v. Crystal Palace 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Man U v. West Brom CNBC
Burnley v. Spurs
Hull v. West Ham
Leicester v. Stoke
Watford v. Sunderland
Southampton v. Bournemouth 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Swansea v. Middlesbrough 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Arsenal v. Man City 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

davemess
03-31-2017, 01:11 PM
Not holding my breath waiting on an Everton win at Anfield

davemess
04-01-2017, 11:59 AM
Liverpool 3-1 Everton
Chelsea 1-2 Crystal Palace
Man U 0-0 West Brom
Burnley 0-2 Spurs
Hull 2-1 West Ham
Leicester 2-0 Stoke
Watford 1-0 Sunderland

andyt
04-01-2017, 03:07 PM
Southampton 0-0 Bournemouth

With Hull winning, Sunderland are now 7 points from safety. And Spurs close to within 7 points of Chelsea.

andyt
04-02-2017, 04:03 PM
Swansea 0-0 Middlesbrough
Arsenal 2-2 Man City

All 4 teams needed a win for different reasons, all 4 go home disappointed.

andyt
04-04-2017, 10:18 AM
Midweek matches:

Tuesday:
Burnley v. Stoke 2:45/19:45
Leicester v. Sunderland
Watford v. West Brom
Man U v. Everton 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

Wednesday:
Arsenal v. West Ham 2:45/19:45
Hull v. Middlesbrough
Southampton v. Crystal Palace
Swansea v. Spurs
Chelsea v. Man City 3:00/20:00 NBCSN
Liverpool v. Bournemouth

andyt
04-05-2017, 04:56 PM
Burnley 1-0 Stoke
Leicester 2-0 Sunderland
Watford 2-0 West Brom
Man U 1-1 Everton
Arsenal 3-0 West Ham
Hull 4-2 Middlesbrough
Southampton 3-1 Crystal Palace
Swansea 1-3 Spurs
Chelsea 2-1 Man City
Liverpool 2-2 Bournemouth

Chelsea maintain their 7 point lead on Spurs. After going into Sunday's matches talking about making a dent in Chelsea's lead, Man City are now 14 back after taking 1 of 6 available points. Arsenal climb back to 5th on goal differential over Man U.

At the foot, Sunderland are now 8 points from safety with 8 to play. Their run-in isn't that difficult, with mostly mid-table or worse clubs, except Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea. They do have 6 point matches against Boro, Hull and Swansea. Hull have moved up to 17th with Swansea dropping into relegation. And don't look now, but West Ham are on a terrible run, winless in their last 7, not having won since February 4. They're only 5 points from 18th. But they're home to Swansea and at Sunderland the next 2 weekends.

In the Championship, Brighton & Hove Albion are guaranteed at least a playoff spot, they're 19 points up on 7th place Fulham with 6 matches left. They and Newcastle have pulled awy from the field with Brighton on 83 points, Newcastle on 81 with 1 match in hand and then 8 back to Reading in 3rd. Huddersfield Town, Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday are in the other playoff spots. At the foot, Rotherham United have already been relegated, with 17 points from 40 matches. Wigan are 7 points from safety with Blackburn, Bristol City and Nottingham Forest separated by 2 points for 20th-22nd.

jeffbear
04-06-2017, 12:48 PM
In the Championship, Brighton & Hove Albion are guaranteed at least a playoff spot, they're 19 points up on 7th place Fulham with 6 matches left. They and Newcastle have pulled awy from the field with Brighton on 83 points, Newcastle on 81 with 1 match in hand and then 8 back to Reading in 3rd. Huddersfield Town, Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday are in the other playoff spots. At the foot, Rotherham United have already been relegated, with 17 points from 40 matches. Wigan are 7 points from safety with Blackburn, Bristol City and Nottingham Forest separated by 2 points for 20th-22nd.

It's a wild melee in the Championship for those last two playoff spots. A lot of those clubs in 9th through 12th have actually been hot since the window closed and the mix changes pretty quickly. I hope Brighton finally closes the deal and gains promotion. They've been right there on the verge for several years now and that city really does embrace the team.

davemess
04-06-2017, 01:08 PM
So are we writing off Sunderland and Middlesboro or does anybody still hold out some hope for them?

andyt
04-06-2017, 01:57 PM
So are we writing off Sunderland and Middlesboro or does anybody still hold out some hope for them?

I think Sunderland are done like dinner. Crystal Palace and Hull are doing their best to keep it interesting although they've both pulled out of relegation with good runs, Palace with 12 points from their last 15 and Hull with 9, including 2 wins in a row. If we assume a team needs 36-38 points to survive, Boro need 13-15 and Sunderland need 16-18. Here is what the bottom 3 have left. Do you see 5 wins for Boro and 6 for Sunderland?

Swansea - @West Ham, @Watford, Stoke, @Man U, Everton, @Sunderland, West Brom
Boro - Burnley, Arsenal, @Bournemouth, Sunderland, Man City, @Chelsea, Southampton, @ Liverpool
Sunderland - Man U, West Ham, @Boro, Bournemouth, @Hull, Swansea, @Chelsea. They also have @Arsenal with a date TBD

Swansea only have 7 matches left and 4 are on the road. Boro only have 3 of their last 5 away, Sunderland have 4.

HNIM
04-06-2017, 02:23 PM
Hard to see West Ham continuing to plummet, but if they do, that could send them on a bad spiral. Their move to London Stadium has already got them leaking support.

andyt
04-07-2017, 07:29 AM
Match week 32.

Saturday:
Spurs v. Watford 7:30/12?20 NBCSN
Man City v. Hull 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Stoke v. Liverpool CNBC
Middlesbrough v. Burnley
West Brom v. Southampton
West Ham v. Swansea
Bournemouth v. Chelsea 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Sunderland v. Man U 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Everton v. Leicester 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Crystal Palace v. Arsenal 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

There are still 6 matches with dates TBD, primarily because of the EFL and FA Cups. Southampton and Arsenal have 2 each (1 against each other), Sunderland, Chelsea, Watford, Leicester, Spurs, Man City, West Brom and Man U are the others.

jeffbear
04-07-2017, 09:33 AM
So are we writing off Sunderland and Middlesboro or does anybody still hold out some hope for them?

I think they're both toast.

Which all but guarantees that one of them will pull a miracle and survive.

andyt
04-07-2017, 12:12 PM
I think they're both toast.

Which all but guarantees that one of them will pull a miracle and survive.

I'd bet on Boro before Sunderland. Boro can't score, their 22 goals scored are worst in the league. but they've only allowed 37, tied for 6th best with Southampton and that includes giving up 4 to Hull on Wednesday. But they scored 2, the first time since December 17 that they've scored more than 1 in a match. So if they can score a few, they might have a chance to escape.

davemess
04-08-2017, 10:39 AM
Tottenham 4-0 Watford
West Ham 1-0 Swansea
Stoke 1-2 Liverpool
Middlesboro 0-0 Burnley
Man City 3-1 Hull
West Brom 0-1 Southampton

davemess
04-08-2017, 01:10 PM
Bournemouth 1-3 Chelsea

davemess
04-09-2017, 11:14 AM
Sunderland 0-3 Man U

Larsson got a rather unlucky red card late in the 1st half and that pretty much killed anything resembling a game.

davemess
04-09-2017, 11:41 AM
Everton 4-2 Leicester

andyt
04-09-2017, 02:45 PM
Sunderland 0-3 Man U

Larsson got a rather unlucky red card late in the 1st half and that pretty much killed anything resembling a game.

I thought that was a rather easy call. Studs up, straight leg, miss the ball...straight red.

davemess
04-10-2017, 11:51 AM
I thought that was a rather easy call. Studs up, straight leg, miss the ball...straight red.
I think its a yellow, I don't think its a tackle that's going to have enough force to hurt anybody.

The fact he wasn't off his feet or really lunging in with a lot of velocity puts it into that grey area for me.

I will say though that when the tackle went in I did think "the ref might go red here" so I don't think it was a huge mistake on the refs part.

Former Ref Sky have looking at stuff on a Monday morning said if 18 refs had that decision to make he through 9 would go yellow and 9 would go red.

davemess
04-10-2017, 11:52 AM
Everton midfielder Ross Barkley was the victim of an "unprovoked attack" in a Liverpool bar, his lawyer has said.

CCTV footage circulating on social media shows the 23-year-old England player being hit in the face by a man.

Barkley was not seriously injured in the incident, which came hours after he played the full match for the Toffees in their win over Leicester on Sunday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39552207

andyt
04-10-2017, 03:49 PM
Crystal Palace 3-0 Arsenal

The door is on your left, Arsene. Not even the FA Cup can save you.

andyt
04-10-2017, 09:24 PM
Great story by Christian Fuchs on The Players' Tribune.

https://theplayerstribune.com/christian-fuchs-leicester-city-champions-league/

andyt
04-14-2017, 07:31 AM
Match week 33

Saturday:
Spurs v. Bournemount 7:30/12:30 NBCSN
Crystal Palace v. Leicester 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Watford v. Swansea CNBC
Everton v. Burnley
Stoke v. Hull
Sunderland v. West Ham
Southampton v. Man City 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
West Brom v. Liverpool 8:30/13:30 NBCSN
Man U v. Chelsea 11:00/16:00 NBCSN

Monday:
Middlesbrough v. Arsenal 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

davemess
04-15-2017, 02:06 PM
Tottenham 4-0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 2-2 Leicester
Everton 3-1 Burnley
Stoke 3-1 Hull
Sunderland 2-2 West Ham
Watford 1-0 Swansea


Not a great day for any of the teams near the bottom.

andyt
04-15-2017, 04:37 PM
Six of the bottom 7 played, only Palace and Sunderland took a point. Palace are probably safe, with 35 points, but Sunderland needed all 3 points

Southampton 0-3 Man City

Vincent Kompany scored his first goal since 2015.

davemess
04-16-2017, 11:56 AM
WBA 0-1 Liverpool

davemess
04-16-2017, 12:52 PM
Man U 2-0 Chelsea

Herrera gets man of the match, a goal, an assist and more importantly marked Hazard out the game.

Will be interesting to see if other teams are willing to man mark Hazard like this going forward, he didn't handle it well today.

Great tactical display from United & Jose today.

andyt
04-16-2017, 04:08 PM
And we have a title race...sadly it's Chelsea and Spurs.

jeffbear
04-17-2017, 10:14 AM
Will be interesting to see if other teams are willing to man mark Hazard like this going forward, he didn't handle it well today.



Wasn't that the book on Hazard a couple of years ago? Bump him, crowd him, take away his clean touches? I mean, I've watched Chelsea several times this season and wondered out loud to my TV "why isn't anybody just bumping him around the way they used to?" Maybe he/they have been doing something dramatically different that I'm too dense to see, but it looked to my eyes like a lot of the league just relaxed on one of the better players in the world just because he had a bad season last year. Kind of the way nobody could seem to game plan for Leicester last year, yet every single club magically figured it out over the summer break.

andyt
04-17-2017, 11:41 AM
We could see the first promotion to the Premier League today. If Brighton & Hove Albion beat relegation-threatened Wigan (and they're leading 2-0 at the moment) and Huddersfiled Town lose or draw at Derby County later today, Albion will have clinched 1 of the top 2 spots in the Championship and gained their first ever promotion to the Premier League and first appearance in the top division since being relegated in 1983. Even a win from Huddersfield Town won't matter much, Albion have a 33 goal advantage.

Newcastle have clinched no worse than a place in the playoffs but 3rd through 7th places are separated by 4 points, although Huddersfiled Town have 1 match in hand on the others. Right now, Leeds United are on the outside, tied with Fulham on points but trailing on goal differential. Reading and Sheffield Wednesday are 4th and 5th. At the foot of the Charmpionship, Rotherham have already been relegated, Wigan and Blackburn sit in the other 2 spots. Blackburn trail 21st place Nottingham Forest by 3 points, with Wigan another 3 behind Blackburn.

In League 1, Sheffield United have already clinched promotion to the Championship with a 15 point lead over Bolton with 2 matches to go. Losses by Coventry City and Chesterfield (and they're both trailing now) doom them to relegation. Port Vale and Swindon Town are also in the relegation zone but have a chance to escape.

In League 2, Doncaster Rovers and Plymouth Argyle have clinched promotion. A win by Portsmouth today against Notts County combined with a Luton Town loss at Plymouth Argyle will see Pompey get the 3rd automatic spot. Both matches are tied. The playoff race is tight, with Luton Town and Stevenage probably safe, but only 3 points separate Exeter City in 6th and Wycombe Wanderers in 13th. Hartlepool United, Newport County and Leyton Orient are battling for the 2 relegation spots.

davemess
04-17-2017, 12:58 PM
Wasn't that the book on Hazard a couple of years ago? Bump him, crowd him, take away his clean touches? I mean, I've watched Chelsea several times this season and wondered out loud to my TV "why isn't anybody just bumping him around the way they used to?" Maybe he/they have been doing something dramatically different that I'm too dense to see, but it looked to my eyes like a lot of the league just relaxed on one of the better players in the world just because he had a bad season last year. Kind of the way nobody could seem to game plan for Leicester last year, yet every single club magically figured it out over the summer break.

I think Hazard has been pretty clever this year and has been moving around a lot more to find the pockets of space. He tends to pick up most of his possession these days in the triangle between the LB, CB and DM. Receiving the ball as he moves from one defenders zone into anothers.

Teams do still bump him (he is the most fouled player in the league) but they haven't been willing to break their formation/shape to follow him around like United did yesterday.

Effectively United played with 2 Right-backs yesterday, Valencia doing his normal thing of getting up and down the line and Herrera following Hazard wherever he went.

It was a plan that was definitely helped by Chelsea not having Alonso bombing down that wing, so Valencia could push forward and almost play right wing as much as right back. I think Conte tried to counter this by switching Moses to the Left about 20 minutes into the game but it didn't work.

It was a proper man marking job they employed, at one point yesterday I noticed Herrera had moved forward slightly made a pass out to Valencia and then properly sprinted 20 yards back to find Hazard again despite United still having possession in the final 3rd.

davemess
04-17-2017, 02:58 PM
Will be interesting to see what kind of response we get from Arsenal today. Suspect they will be on it today and poor Boro could take a battering.

jeffbear
04-17-2017, 04:00 PM
We could see the first promotion to the Premier League today. If Brighton & Hove Albion beat relegation-threatened Wigan (and they're leading 2-0 at the moment) and Huddersfiled Town lose or draw at Derby County later today, Albion will have clinched 1 of the top 2 spots in the Championship and gained their first ever promotion to the Premier League and first appearance in the top division since being relegated in 1983. Even a win from Huddersfield Town won't matter much, Albion have a 33 goal advantage.

They did it. Welcome Seagulls to the Prem. It's been a long hard road back to the top flight for them, but they've got a lovely little modern stadium and I do love Brighton as a destination. Easy train rides down for supporters of the London clubs should keep the turnstiles hopping, especially in warm weather months. They've got a hard nosed group of players too. Sprinkle in a bit of spice with their increased budget and they should be better odds to stick around than the average promoted side.

andyt
04-17-2017, 07:39 PM
Will be interesting to see what kind of response we get from Arsenal today. Suspect they will be on it today and poor Boro could take a battering.

Boro 1-2 Arsenal

I didn't see it, but Arsenal started in a 3-4-2-1, with 3 centerbacks across the back 3, and Monreal and Oxlade-Chamberlain as the wingbacks. Monreal, at least is a fullback, but Ox is not a defensive stalwart. The win moves Arsenal back up to 6th, ahead of Everton, level on points and goal differential, but Arsenal have played 2 fewer matches.

andyt
04-17-2017, 07:46 PM
They did it. Welcome Seagulls to the Prem. It's been a long hard road back to the top flight for them, but they've got a lovely little modern stadium and I do love Brighton as a destination. Easy train rides down for supporters of the London clubs should keep the turnstiles hopping, especially in warm weather months. They've got a hard nosed group of players too. Sprinkle in a bit of spice with their increased budget and they should be better odds to stick around than the average promoted side.

Portsmouth did it too, winning their way back up to League 1 for the first time since the 2012-13 season.

With Sheffield Wednesday don't win the Championship Playoff, they'll be in the same division as Sheffield United for the first time since the 2011-12 season.

davemess
04-18-2017, 01:09 PM
I didn't see it, but Arsenal started in a 3-4-2-1, with 3 centerbacks across the back 3, and Monreal and Oxlade-Chamberlain as the wingbacks. Monreal, at least is a fullback, but Ox is not a defensive stalwart.
I don't get the Ox over Bellerin at RWB either, that was strange.

As for the 3 Centre backs, I think he expected Boro to start with both Negredo & Gestede and go with a total Arial bombardment.

HNIM
04-18-2017, 02:30 PM
And we have a title race...sadly it's Chelsea and Spurs.

Meh... Karma's not exactly a Spurs fan. On the Spurs boards there's a mix of Zaphod Beeblebrox euphoria and Marvin the Robot's depression ("...this will all end in tears.")

jeffbear
04-18-2017, 02:38 PM
As for the 3 Centre backs, I think he expected Boro to start with both Negredo & Gestede and go with a total Arial bombardment.

So Arsene expected the full Little Mermaid treatment?

I kid, I kid.

davemess
04-18-2017, 02:53 PM
So Arsene expected the full Little Mermaid treatment?

I kid, I kid.

lol, lots of heading and not much good footwork...... guess it fits :D

andyt
04-21-2017, 10:26 AM
An abbreviated schedule with the FA Cup semi-finals this weekend. Only 6 matches:

Saturday:
West Ham v. Everton 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
Swansea v. Stoke CNBC
Bournemouth v. Middlesbrough
Hull v. Watford

Sunday:
Burnley v. Man U 9:15/14:15 NBCSN
Liverpool v. Crystal Palace 11:30/16:30 NBCSN

We could also see the other automatic promotion from the Championship this weekend. A Newcastle win over Preston North End on Monday, combined with losses by Reading (to Nottingham Forest) and Huddersfield Town (to Fulham) on Saturday will see the Magpies clinch. A Nottingham Forest win combined with a Wigan loss or draw sends Wigan down.

davemess
04-21-2017, 03:26 PM
Zlatan Ibrahimovic is expected to miss the rest of Manchester United's season, according to Sky sources.

Ibrahimovic injured his knee during the second leg of United's Europa League quarter-final against Anderlecht on Thursday night.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10845437/zlatan-ibrahimovic-set-to-miss-rest-of-manchester-united-season-sky-sources

Major blow to United chances of CL qualification, either in the league or through the Europa.

davemess
04-22-2017, 11:49 AM
Hull 2-0 Watford
Bournemouth 4-0 Boro
Swansea 2-0 Stoke
West Ham 0-0 Everton

Wins for both Hull & Swansea down the bottom, will have Palace & Burnley looking over their shoulders again.

davemess
04-23-2017, 12:17 PM
Burnley 0-2 Man U

davemess
04-23-2017, 03:13 PM
Liverpool 1-2 Crystal Palace

Benteke with both for Palace.


Win probably makes Palace safe. They have a 7 point gap to the relegation zone (plus a game in hand).

Looks like the last relegation spot will be between Swansea, Hull and maybe a Burnley team that's been sliding for a while now.

andyt
04-23-2017, 08:54 PM
Liverpool 1-2 Crystal Palace

Benteke with both for Palace.


Win probably makes Palace safe. They have a 7 point gap to the relegation zone (plus a game in hand).

Looks like the last relegation spot will be between Swansea, Hull and maybe a Burnley team that's been sliding for a while now.

Palace have 38 points, which has ensured safety in all but 3 seasons since 2002-03 season.

Burnley have 4 left, @Palace, West Brom, @Bournemouth, West Ham. They've only earned 4 away points all season.
Hull are @Southampton, Sunderland, @Palace, Spurs
Swansea are @Man U, Everton, @Sunderland, West Brom

andyt
04-24-2017, 05:44 PM
Newcastle picked up the 2nd automatic promotion spot from the Championship. Their 4-1 win over Preston North End, combined with Huddersfield Town's loss to Fulham on Saturday gave them a 10 point lead with 3 matches to go. With 2 matches to go, the playoff spots are down to a 5 team race. Reading have 79 points, Sheffield Wednesday and Huddersfield Town have 78, Fulham have 76. Leeds United sit 7th with 73. Huddersfield have 3 matches left. Reading could conceivably miss the playoffs, they only have a +1 goal differential. If they lose out and Leeds win out and the other 3 get 1 win each, Reading miss the playoffs.

We have some midweek makeup matches coming up, including the Manchester Derby:

Tuesday:
Chelsea v. Southampton 2:45/19:45 NBCSN

Wednesday:
Arsenal v. Leicester 2:45/19:45
Middlesbrough v. Sunderland
Crsytal Palace v. Spurs 3:00/20:00 NBCSN

Thursday:
Man City v. Man U 3:00/15:00 NBCSN

jeffbear
04-24-2017, 10:04 PM
Liverpool 1-2 Crystal Palace

Benteke with both for Palace.


Win probably makes Palace safe. They have a 7 point gap to the relegation zone (plus a game in hand).

Looks like the last relegation spot will be between Swansea, Hull and maybe a Burnley team that's been sliding for a while now.

Seeing as how they never should have been in that muck pit in the first place with their roster, good.

davemess
04-26-2017, 12:29 PM
Chelsea 4-2 Southampton

andyt
04-26-2017, 05:39 PM
Arsenal 1-0 Leicester
Middlesbrough 1-0 Sunderland
Crystal Palace 0-1 Spurs

Arsenal get an 86th minute own goal to grab the win. Boro score early and hang on to help their slim survival chances, still 4 points from safety. Sunderland still have 5 games left but are now 10 points back.

andyt
04-27-2017, 11:21 PM
Man City 0-0 Man U

Fellaini will see the stands for the next 3 matches after being sent off for head butting Aguero.

andyt
04-28-2017, 06:46 AM
Match week 35 and it ends with the last North London Derby at White Hart Lane.

Saturday:
Southampton v. Hull 10:00/15:00 NBCSN
West Brom v. Leicester CNBC
Stoke v. West Ham
Sunderland v. Bournemouth
Crystal Palace v. Burnley 12:30/17:30 NBC

Sunday:
Man U v. Swansea 7:00/12:00 CNBC
Everton v. Chelsea 9:05/14:05 CNBC
Middlesbrough v. Man City
Spurs v. Arsenal 11:30/16:30 NBCSN