The Training Camp Thread

andyt

Canes Moderator
The camp schedule and rosters are out on the Canes website. This year, it’s Team Pride and Team Passion. No camp invitees but 5 players on AHL contracts including Skinkaruk. Only Suzuki, Rees and Murray represent the 2019 Draft class. True others are either in Europe or preserving college eligibility.

The first public practice session is Friday at 8:45 at PNC.

Correction - only 4 AHL guys

 
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jeffbear

Mod Squad
A. Team Pride and Team Passion is ... dumb

B. No real camp invites this year, which is a little surprising considering how many tryout guys the Canes had at the prospects tourney. The only non-roster, non-rights guys are AHL free agent signings. Those guys barely even qualify as invitees since they belong to Charlotte.

C. That said, it's still a pretty big camp roster. 44 skaters and 6 goalies is a bunch, even broken up into two groups.

Best of luck boys. The pressure is on for a good start to build on last year's momentum. I might be looking to drop in on Sept 16, depending on how some stuff goes on Friday.
 

JamesNorthern

Active member
May I point out something slightly related... another nicety of having a deep playoff run, let alone having made the dance for the first time in a decade is that the offseason seems shortened for a change =D Like, we're already back at it. That's good because I suspect this bunch is chomping at the bit to build from last season's success. Wish em luck indeed
 

CanadaCanes

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Chip tweeted last night that Waddell said Maenalanen is staying in Finland “as of now”. I’m not surprised. He probably wanted a 1 way contract but we’re also pretty full at forward.

Still remains Canes property so maybe not a bad thing, I actually like his size and he did ok in a limited role last year, a nice trade chip to sweeten a deal down the road if the team feels he is not part of any future plans
 

jeffbear

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Yeah, I like Maenalanen, but he's limited and the forwards lines sort of moved past him. If he could legitimately play center they probably could have found a role for him, but sadly ... not so much.
 

cmaleski2

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Manalanen is doing the smart thing for him. The Canes have no clear role for him in the NHL which almost certainly means they were offering him a 2 way contract. He will make more money playing in Finland. He was perfect in the role that we needed him to be in last season for us. Hopefully that gives him confidence to return to Liiga and be a much higher impact player there.
 

andyt

Canes Moderator
The Canes added dman Fredrick Claesson to camp on a PTO. Originally drafted by the Sens in 2011, he’s played 150 NHL games, including 37 for the Rangers last season.
 

jeffbear

Mod Squad
So ... first day of Camp. Woo Hoo.

Looking at the roster, it would seem that the following guys have fairly well defined roster positions going in:

Forwards:
Aho, Niederreiter, Teravainen, Staal, Svechnikov, Dzingle, and Huala. That's basically your top 6 group plus a bonus center. Barring anything unusual (and when do we really avoid that for a whole season?) that's fairly set. From there, Foegele, Necas, McGinn, Martinook, and Wallmark will shake out their roles in camp. Wallmark will have to win that 4th line role, but there are other options in the system should he falter. Somebody's going to need to step into an extra forward role, and since the salary cap might dictate a short roster early on, look for it to be somebody like Gibbons who has some experience in that kind of role. And yeah, especially with Williams gone, I see Necas making this team all day. He's ready and more to the point, the Canes need him to be ready. The forward depth is so much better this season that they can afford to be a bit more patient if he comes out and needs time to settle in. Last year they didn't have that luxury.

On the fringe:
Geekie is an ambitious player and will push for a depth role either at center or on the wing. Gauthier wants to show that his growth last season is only the beginning. Bishop is an understudy at 4C, but if capable enough ... although I see him as a call-up kind of guy. Kuokkanen is another option at 4C, and he's got that kind of game.

Defense:
The top 6 or 7 is set aside from health concerns for TVR and the trade scenario for Faulk. Otherwise we're looking at Slavin, Hamilton, Gardiner, Pesce, TVR, Faulk and Fleury.

On the fringe: McKeown probably slots up if TVR can't go early in the NHL schedule and will get looks in the exhibitions. So will Bean, Priskie, Forsling and Sellgren. All of them aside from maybe Sellgren would be battling for a 3rd pairing job on the majority of teams in the league. We've got D for days.

Goalies:
Mrazek and Reimer are your NHL combo unless something changes. They have the experience and the contracts to show for it. I'd guess Mr Azek gets just enough pre season action to tune up and then yields the crease to the rather large group behind him.

On the fringe:
Nedeljkovic and Forsberg both have the goods to be an NHL backup and both will probably be in camp to show just that. A real push by either could turn Reimer into trade bait, but I'm less convinced that'll happen than most of you guys. I think the long term plan is for Ned to play 10 or so NHL games this season and hopefully show that he can handle the 1B job next year. I have no idea what they plan for Forsberg, but he's a good AHL keeper so let's figure he does that for now.
 

jeffbear

Mod Squad
The Canes added dman Fredrick Claesson to camp on a PTO. Originally drafted by the Sens in 2011, he’s played 150 NHL games, including 37 for the Rangers last season.
Quality AHL level guy, but that's all. At least that's all on this roster.
 

HNIM

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Went to the early session. The new jumbotron is distractingly huge. I'm not keen on it. Gauthier isn't getting bigger, faster, or more skilled. I don't see him making it at this level. Kuokkanen's conditioning is not up to snuff, he looked like he was ready to die at the end. That's not the impression you want to make first day of camp, kid. Necas was showing off some stick work afterward. He has seriously sick hands.
 

jeffbear

Mod Squad
I had a conversation with my Charlotte guy about Gauthier a few days ago. He figures that the kid finally bought into the Canes program for him last year, so this season we'll see his actual level. That could be good or bad, frankly ... because that level might just stall out below NHL level. Put it this way - there's a reason his name as been attached to more than one trade rumors this summer.
 

CanadaCanes

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Guys like Gauthier, Kuokkanen and McKeown are all starting to fall into that show me the hunger to be able to play at the next level or be passed by on the depth chart by the next wave of young prospects coming like Geekie, Luostarinen and Priskie to name a few. It certainly does not help their cause with the depth the Canes have just about everywhere. Good problem to have for the org but certainly tough for the young prospects to stand out with so much depth and competition for maybe a single spot or two if an injury presents an opportunity this season.
 

Elsker

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Defense:
The top 6 or 7 is set aside from health concerns for TVR and the trade scenario for Faulk. Otherwise we're looking at Slavin, Hamilton, Gardiner, Pesce, TVR, Faulk and Fleury.
From Michael Smith's Notebook: Training Camp Prologue article yesterday:
Van Riemsdyk Still Recovering

Defenseman Trevor van Riemsdyk underwent surgery on his left shoulder in early May after suffering an injury in the first period of Game 2 in the Second Round of the playoffs. His recovery time was estimated at four to six months, and the Hurricanes don't expect van Riemsdyk to take contact at the outset of camp.

"I don't expect him to be ready for the start of the season," Waddell said. "It just depends on how things go for him. There's no reason to rush him back in game one or game two. It's a long season. If we're going to go deep, we're going to need him. We'll be very patient."
So either Chase Priskie (my bet) or Roland McKeown has a chance to at least start the season, if they want a right-shot defenseman on the third pairing.
 

jeffbear

Mod Squad
From Michael Smith's Notebook: Training Camp Prologue article yesterday:


So either Chase Priskie (my bet) or Roland McKeown has a chance to at least start the season, if they want a right-shot defenseman on the third pairing.
With Faulk having seemingly passed on Anaheim, for now I'd rank Bean as the favorite to stick as No. 7. Faulk and Fleury on the 3rd pairing ... God help us.

And FWIW, Priskie has already managed to get dinged up in the first practice session. I think he's closer to ready than some other do, but I also think it's probably prudent to let him start down in Charlotte before throwing him to the wolves.
 

andyt

Canes Moderator
Kuokkanen didn’t play after mid-January, and had surgery in Mid-March. Neither the Checkers or Canes ever said what the issue was, but I’m willing to give him some time to work it all out..
 

jeffbear

Mod Squad
Kuokkanen didn’t play after mid-January, and had surgery in Mid-March. Neither the Checkers or Canes ever said what the issue was, but I’m willing to give him some time to work it all out..
He played well in the prospect showcase, by most accounts. He's prolly still getting himself back to full speed.
 

HNIM

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I thought about that possibility but I couldn't remember hearing anything about it. He was really struggling at the end of the gassers.
 
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