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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    I think he would of drafted one or 2 good centers . I cant believe he and his staff would missed so many players that we bypassed .
    To be fair, Tyson Jost is the only “potential top-2C” MB has missed since coming on board for 2012 draft through 2017 -the org did ok in drafting Sergachev....

    Only other C’s missed in the draft have been Athanasiou & Point (wouldn’t label either as slam dunk top-2C on a contender) - the real C misses at the draft were under Gauthier’s regime in 2010 & 2011 (let’s forget 2003-2009 for a minute) - Coyle, Kuznetsov, Gaudreau, Namestnikov etc.. all attainable at the Habs draft position in both years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    That wasn't my point. And I think PK could have gotten us one, before his big contract.
    McGuire clearly stated on Melnick’s show a couple of years back, in Nov’2013 Pens offered up Malkin for Subban 1-for-1 and MB refused - this was prior to Subban signing his massive deal, and Pens would be gaining considerable cap space with the deal which was obviously part of the plan. Shero also knew he had to win or be sent packing which also happened.

    Everyone who’s ever heard McGuire speak knows Ray Shero is his BFF, I’ve got no reason to believe Pierre would be lying.

    And if you closely listen to MB, he’s mentioned a few times now at PCs he regrets not making “one particular deal”
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    Default Re: Who will and should replace MB?

    Yeah I heard that one, but I'm still skeptical.

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    I find it impossible to believe that. How could any GM turn that deal down?

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    See: Bergevin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habspatrol View Post
    I find it impossible to believe that. How could any GM turn that deal down?
    Yeah, same here.

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    The question regarding to McGuire is, if he is really a half decent GM, why no one ever offered him the job, i mean for sometime people said he is well paid in TV, but he is clearly interested to GM job, plus he has lots of connection in NHL, yet no one offered him a job anywhere, doubt even as assistant GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs-25 View Post
    Forget language issue, who is realistically the best option?
    The entire premise of your question is flawed. You can't "forget" the language issue. It is literally the only thing that will be considered when the next incompetent GM gets hired. So there is no "best option" but merely a selection of lousy ones. Whether we end up with a good GM or a bad one will come down to luck. The only thing certain is that we're getting a Francophone. That's how this franchise operates now. Being competent at one's job doesn't factor into the hiring process anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habsy View Post
    At what cost?
    It doesn't matter. You can't win without one. You can without a true no. 1 defenseman or an elite goalie.

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    And yet plenty of teams with elite centers have won bubkus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habsy View Post
    And yet plenty of teams with elite centers have won bubkus.
    And? Not having one pretty much guarantees that you won't win a Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krustchev View Post
    And? Not having one pretty much guarantees that you won't win a Cup.
    Do they even have the other two required positions as well? I know Weber and Price are paid at an elite level.but..
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainBolduke View Post
    Everyone loved MB at the beginning.
    somehow the guy managed to get worse as he got more experience
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    All I know is, this is what happens if MB is allowed to do the rebuild himself...


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    I liked MB at first but I quickly started to have my doubts after his horrific 2013 off-season when he acquired Murray, Parros and Briere, as well as wasting 3 top 40 picks on McCarron, De La Rose and Fucale. He did manage to redeem himself a little bit that season with the brilliant Vanek trade though. But then it was followed by another lackluster summer and an increasingly arrogant attitude.

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    Dudley will replace MB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    McGuire clearly stated on Melnick’s show a couple of years back, in Nov’2013 Pens offered up Malkin for Subban 1-for-1 and MB refused - this was prior to Subban signing his massive deal, and Pens would be gaining considerable cap space with the deal which was obviously part of the plan. Shero also knew he had to win or be sent packing which also happened.

    Everyone who’s ever heard McGuire speak knows Ray Shero is his BFF, I’ve got no reason to believe Pierre would be lying.

    And if you closely listen to MB, he’s mentioned a few times now at PCs he regrets not making “one particular deal”


    Yeah, I heard that too but it was before the time he wanted to deal PK.

    I heard a couple people mention it may have been a deal with the Caps that involved Filip Forsberg
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    Shoulda kept PK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainBolduke View Post
    Shoulda kept PK.
    The trade was probably a good wake-up call for him. I dont watch a lot of Nashville games, but the games I've seen him play, I see very little spinoramas and dipsy doodle risky plays from him. Off the ice he's still the same Subban though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habspatrol View Post
    I find it impossible to believe that. How could any GM turn that deal down?
    Me too, it is hard to accept.

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