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    i am not too worried about the wing position unless it is a game breaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainBolduke View Post
    Pretty sure Duclair sucks --- and was never projected to be good.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=143840
    Scored 20 goals one year and was on pace for another 20 last year before being traded. Free asset with known chemistry with one of our guy. If he does well he can get packaged in a deal for a better guy. No risk potential reward bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worm View Post
    i am not too worried about the wing position unless it is a game breaker
    Not worried either but I don't mind loading up on young guys. Ideally I'd trade Shaw and Byron for some assets and replace them with younger ones. I like both but they won't be part of our future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs53 View Post
    and they had a shit load of luck. they will be in cap hell soon enough, the articles have already started
    No cap hell whatsoever .

    They will slot their 3 kiddie stud corp with JT and the rest of their core under cap friendly deals .

    Plus they have cap coming off the books in 1-2 years and Horton`s 5.25 LTIR to use to go over the cap .

    What they wont be able to do is the stupidity we do ....sign clowns like Alzner to dumb contracts

    As long as they keep drafting/developing well and use cheap 1 year UFA rentals they will be fine for 3-4 years until they have to review contracts of Freddy, Kadri ,and Reilly among others .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    Scored 20 goals one year and was on pace for another 20 last year before being traded. Free asset with known chemistry with one of our guy. If he does well he can get packaged in a deal for a better guy. No risk potential reward bet.
    With two guys no?

    Drouin @ Lac St.Louis and Domi @ WJC


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    With two guys no?

    Drouin @ Lac St.Louis and Domi @ WJC
    Yes but I'm not counting guys playing together in midget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    No cap hell whatsoever .

    They will slot their 3 kiddie stud corp with JT and the rest of their core under cap friendly deals .

    Plus they have cap coming off the books in 1-2 years and Horton`s 5.25 LTIR to use to go over the cap .

    What they wont be able to do is the stupidity we do ....sign clowns like Alzner to dumb contracts

    As long as they keep drafting/developing well and use cheap 1 year UFA rentals they will be fine for 3-4 years until they have to review contracts of Freddy, Kadri ,and Reilly among others .
    It might impair their ability to improve their defense but that's about it. They're in good shape cap wise.

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    Blue Jackets it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    It might impair their ability to improve their defense but that's about it. They're in good shape cap wise.
    If Dermot develops into a nice top 4 thats a huge bonus.

    Plus guys like Brown can be sacrificed for D help .

    They are like the Pens ...elite top 9 and hope an adequate D can hold its own .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    What they wont be able to do is the stupidity we do ....sign clowns like Alzner to dumb contracts

    As long as they keep drafting/developing well and use cheap 1 year UFA rentals they will be fine for 3-4 years until they have to review contracts of Freddy, Kadri ,and Reilly among others .
    zaitsev is their alzner

    but Lou Lam is gone now so it seems less likely to happen again
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    Quote Originally Posted by worm View Post
    zaitsev is their alzner
    Except younger, better (not a whole lot, but every bit helps...) and most importantly, right handed.
    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than is required to produce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    No cap hell whatsoever .

    They will slot their 3 kiddie stud corp with JT and the rest of their core under cap friendly deals .

    Plus they have cap coming off the books in 1-2 years and Horton`s 5.25 LTIR to use to go over the cap .

    What they wont be able to do is the stupidity we do ....sign clowns like Alzner to dumb contracts

    As long as they keep drafting/developing well and use cheap 1 year UFA rentals they will be fine for 3-4 years until they have to review contracts of Freddy, Kadri ,and Reilly among others .
    Yea sure. The so called experts are always wrong .... anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs53 View Post
    Yea sure. The so called experts are always wrong .... anyways
    It doesn't require an "expert" to open up capfriendly and do basic math.

    The experts have been talking about how it was going to be necessary to trade 1 of the "big 3" since we've had a big 3. Such is life in Toronto.

    The difficulty won't be in keeping the kids, it will be in making any external additions to the lineup from here on in. Our blueline needs to get better organically. Luckily we have a strong enough prospect group where there is a legit chance of it actually happening.
    The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than is required to produce it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainBolduke View Post
    Ugh... You're a hard guy to talk to. This has gone over your head.

    We said it's a LEGIT team (and would still need work --- hence more free agents). That's all. Sometimes you argue points that you agree with.

    This site has way too much GEEMAN and Demon Blood.
    Sure, we need more of you...

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    If it's true that MB didn't take a chance on Duclair for around what Columbus offered but he took a chance on Matthew Peca for 2 years at 1.3M per season I have no clue what to make of this idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Blond View Post
    If it's true that MB didn't take a chance on Duclair for around what Columbus offered but he took a chance on Matthew Peca for 2 years at 1.3M per season I have no clue what to make of this idiot.
    Duclair’s agent said CBJ were only team offering a oneway deal, everyone else offered two way deals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Butera View Post
    Duclair’s agent said CBJ were only team offering a oneway deal, everyone else offered two way deals.
    We could have easily offered a one way deal, it's not like we can't afford it or need the cap space. Clearly we were not interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    We could have easily offered a one way deal, it's not like we can't afford it or need the cap space. Clearly we were not interested.
    Exactly. We have Byron Froese on the books one way for 650K which is a complete waste of cap space but we won’t take a chance on a 23 year old who scored 20 goals as a rookie? And he did it with Domi?

    You can’t be as desperate for talent as we are and ignore when it comes along because of risk.

    He gave Hemsky 1M last year. Ales fuggin Hemsky...but he won’t take a flyer on Duclair. Personally I think he wanted him and figured he’d get him to come crawling on a one way offer and then got totally screwed when he lost him to Columbus.

    I’m starting to understand this is the MB way. Squeeze the talent and indulge the plugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Blond View Post
    Exactly. We have Byron Froese on the books one way for 650K which is a complete waste of cap space but we won’t take a chance on a 23 year old who scored 20 goals as a rookie? And he did it with Domi?

    You can’t be as desperate for talent as we are and ignore when it comes along because of risk.

    He gave Hemsky 1M last year. Ales fuggin Hemsky...but he won’t take a flyer on Duclair. Personally I think he wanted him and figured he’d get him to come crawling on a one way offer and then got totally screwed when he lost him to Columbus.

    I’m starting to understand this is the MB way. Squeeze the talent and indulge the plugs.
    You, along with everyone else will have to accept MB sucks. He doesn't just suck at one thing. He sucks at everything. Now you can understand why we are in this position.
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    Please, tell us more about MB. It’s not like people here haven’t loathed him for years.
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