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    Default Re: Rebuilding: Where do we go from here?

    I think Shaw can get a decent return as long as he can rebound and stay healthy. Big if obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    no one wants to take on that contract, only we do stuff like that

    anyway, remember we need to be at the cap floor, we are already 10 under this year with higher contracts coming off the books
    Both contracts are moveable after this year ....Both need to bounce back healthy and productive

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    Quote Originally Posted by worm View Post
    So with Max gone and an obvious sign the rebuild is going full speed what else do we have to trade.

    I am going to assume Weber (hurt and big contract) is going nowhere. Price will need to rebound to even have a shot of being traded with that contract.
    So with those two eliminated what do we have.

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    Pleks - Not sure anyone takes him for much value this time. Best case scenario he performs well and can be traded for a second.

    Paul Byron - at 29 years old I say trade him for whatever

    Froese - lol

    Benn - trade him for whatever you can


    So that is not much now that Max is gone.

    The Others
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    Petry - This is the one guy that I think has some potential to bring back some assets. 3 years left and at the age that he does not help us for the next contract. If he can repeat last year you might have a few takers that give back a legit prospect.

    Tatar and Shaw - I will lump them together because there is potential to trade both (while retaining salary) for picks/prospects. I would try to move both for whatever I can get.

    The other person I explore is Gally. 3 years left at a good rate but due for an increase if he keeps is up. If the right deal is there I look to move him. If not it does not hurt to keep him either.



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    Hope Price gets hurt and the team sucks.
    Play the hell out of the young guys like Drouin, Lehkonen, Scherbak, etc
    11 will land you a solid return. With the way he plays he might be declining in 3 years when his contract is up .

    A few more pissed off fans is worth it if you can land another top prospect
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    Quote Originally Posted by worm View Post
    So with Max gone and an obvious sign the rebuild is going full speed what else do we have to trade.

    I am going to assume Weber (hurt and big contract) is going nowhere. Price will need to rebound to even have a shot of being traded with that contract.
    So with those two eliminated what do we have.

    Upcoming UFAs
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    Pleks - Not sure anyone takes him for much value this time. Best case scenario he performs well and can be traded for a second.

    Paul Byron - at 29 years old I say trade him for whatever

    Froese - lol

    Benn - trade him for whatever you can


    So that is not much now that Max is gone.

    The Others
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    Petry - This is the one guy that I think has some potential to bring back some assets. 3 years left and at the age that he does not help us for the next contract. If he can repeat last year you might have a few takers that give back a legit prospect.

    Tatar and Shaw - I will lump them together because there is potential to trade both (while retaining salary) for picks/prospects. I would try to move both for whatever I can get.

    The other person I explore is Gally. 3 years left at a good rate but due for an increase if he keeps is up. If the right deal is there I look to move him. If not it does not hurt to keep him either.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lecoqsportif View Post
    Weber for Karlsson.

    They get a stable salary and an asset in return, despite their precarious situation. We get Karlsson to sign or move at the deadline.

    Shoot Iíd even retain some salary for that to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    MB has been doing ok this summer IMO.
    Thatís like a teacher saying the dumb kid in the class got a C on his last test and there was rejoicing.
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    Byron and Benn will go at the deadline, maybe fetch a 2nd and that’s probably it for this year.

    I’d like to see what Tatar can do.

    The elephant in the room is Weber.

    He’s 33 and pretty much accepts that he will never compete for a cup if he stays here so I don’t see him doing that no matter how stoic he is. Once he comes back and assuming he’s in form, further assuming the Habs are nowhere near a playoff spot, there’s a chance the demand for him will make it impossible to say no.

    Ironically this would be the only time I think MB would be able to trade from a position of strength, you’d think he’d relish that opportunity rather than wait 2 years when Weber at best gets you a 2nd and a B prospect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs4Life View Post
    I think Shaw can get a decent return as long as he can rebound and stay healthy. Big if obviously.
    LOOOOOL

    Have you seen his stats? We are paying a team to take him and getting NOTHING back. He has negative trade value and will next year even if he's healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xposbrad View Post
    LOOOOOL

    Have you seen his stats? We are paying a team to take him and getting NOTHING back. He has negative trade value and will next year even if he's healthy.
    Several trusted sources including Bobby Mack indicated there was strong interest in Shaw at the deadline. MB wanted to keep him.

    Did you see Maxís stats last year? He netted a guy who scored more than him last year a high end centre prospect and a 2nd round pick.

    The body of work is more important. If he can stay healthy... there will most definitely be suitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs4Life View Post
    Several trusted sources including Bobby Mack indicated there was strong interest in Shaw at the deadline. MB wanted to keep him.

    Did you see Max’s stats last year? He netted a guy who scored more than him last year a high end centre prospect and a 2nd round pick.

    The body of work is more important. If he can stay healthy... there will most definitely be suitors.
    Wouldnt mind a respectable # 4D with a similar contract in return .

    Benn, Byron better have their suit cases ready by the deadline or sooner .

    Petry should fetch a decent return as well, he can help a contender

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandWazoo View Post
    MB has been doing ok this summer IMO.
    That's the equivalent to saying that he failed grade 1 five times, but is doing OK during his 6th attempt at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCountofMonteCristo View Post
    his mere existence is a progress stopper. Reilly and Valiev suck but better them than Dumko
    "Dumko" is good for the rebuild. We want to be as bad as possible the season.

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    Yeah, no GM will take 31's stupid contract. Honestly i wonder how MB is still around! I don't get this. This guy in space of 3-4 years totally destroyed this organisation, not that we were contender before but what is this shit tbh?!?!

    Habs outside Petry doesn't have any veteran with decent value to trade, knowing it will be really hard to get rid of 31 and 6 contracts, specially 31!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs4Life View Post
    Several trusted sources including Bobby Mack indicated there was strong interest in Shaw at the deadline. MB wanted to keep him.

    Did you see Max’s stats last year? He netted a guy who scored more than him last year a high end centre prospect and a 2nd round pick.

    The body of work is more important. If he can stay healthy... there will most definitely be suitors.
    Shaw is the type of player that many teams would like to have for a playoff run, he definitely has value, but health is starting to be a big concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habs-25 View Post
    Yeah, no GM will take 31's stupid contract. Honestly i wonder how MB is still around! I don't get this. This guy in space of 3-4 years totally destroyed this organisation, not that we were contender before but what is this shit tbh?!?!

    Habs outside Petry doesn't have any veteran with decent value to trade, knowing it will be really hard to get rid of 31 and 6 contracts, specially 31!
    Price doesn't need to be traded. He will likely still be good when the team is ready to compete again in 3 years.
















    And yes, I know you are just trolling -- but whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainBolduke View Post
    Price doesn't need to be traded. He will likely still be good when the team is ready to compete again in 3 years.
















    And yes, I know you are just trolling -- but whatever.
    Price will never take this team far, unless you give him a TEAM-CANADA caliber team. Ne rÍve pas en couleur!
    31 years old and still counting, Thank god Team-Canada didn't go amateur for Olympics earlier!!
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    Yikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainBolduke View Post
    Yikes
    At 10.5 he is no longer required on this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEEMAN View Post
    At 10.5 he is no longer required on this team.
    He’ll probably ask for a trade sooner than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krustchev View Post
    He’ll probably ask for a trade sooner than later.
    Seattle expansion pick anyone .

    All that matters to 31 was getting paid , the rest you can manage .

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