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OT:World Politics

BeLeafer

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I mean, if Maduro is so bent on rounding up his political opponents, why is that CIA stooge allowed to run freely, while openly calling for a foreign military power to invade his country and topple its government?
 

Altair

Well-known member
I liked the part where they glossed over the fact that Maduro had released a political prisoner and then spun it into Guaido not being happy that a political prisoner was released, because taking political prisoners is completely normal and not worth mentioning that Maduro has been taking political prisoners.
So, you're questioning whether or not Maduro is taking political prisoners?

For real?
All is acceptable in the name of socialism.
 

Altair

Well-known member
But it's literally Hitler to have rules against employees stealing classified information and giving it to the press.
All is acceptable in the name of socialism.

The same does not hold true for facists(Facists being all non socialists)
 

BeLeafer

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I mean, you'll not only defend the imprisonment of Assange but also spew the establishments smears against him.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
When have I ever suggested that I'm not concerned about a regime that takes purely political prisoners? (or worse, sanctions hits on them like the Saudi's or the Turks)

You mistake my distaste for Assange as a lack of give a **** regarding actual political prisoners.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
Before I wrote what I did, I fucking knew you were going to hang your hat on Assange.

He's a criminal prisoner, not a political prisoner. He's not facing charges because he believes something, or lobby's for something the political elites don't like, he's facing charges because he may have...may have (a number of smart legal types don't think he's actually guilty of violating the espionage act) broken the law.

That's a huge distinction that you're refusing to make here between a political prisoner, and a criminal prisoner. Maduro has jailed opposition politicians on trumped up charges of murder, terrorism, etc, etc. Manning and Snowden specifically, clearly broke laws while working in positions where they were privy to US secrets. Assange a bit more grey area, but he self exiled rather than face the charges (that again, he may not have broken).

Big, big fucking difference.
 

BeLeafer

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When have I ever suggested that I'm not concerned about a regime that takes purely political prisoners? (or worse, sanctions hits on them like the Saudi's or the Turks)

You mistake my distaste for Assange as a lack of give a **** regarding actual political prisoners.
When have you ever voiced concerns about political prisoners? I've never seen it before.

In any event, the report that claims it was tainted (I posted info about this a few pages back) and they released the prisoners.


UN report that he's being tortured and deprived of due process. Doubt he'll get released any time soon.
 

BeLeafer

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Just like the US claims Peltier, Ellsberg et al committed crimes, so too does Venezula. But in Venezula you claim this is all trumped up but in the US it's perfectly legitimate.
 

BeLeafer

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You find Venezula objectionable but when I post anything about Honduras -- and the right wing thugs brought in with a Clinton/Obama coup -- nothing. They don't imprison their political opponents, they murder them -- with the help of the US.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
When have you ever voiced concerns about political prisoners?
Would you also like me to pontificate on every fucking basic truism before you accept that I believe it?

Political prisoners = bad. This is hardly ground breaking shit.

As an aside, can you stop posting horseshit sources and expecting people to read them? For example, on their health pages the two top stories are about a medical medium who channels his ideas on health from "compassion", and the threats of 5G "radiation".

Give me a fucking break.

Please do name his crimes.
In the UK? Failing to appear for an extradition hearing from the Swedish charges. In the US, maybe the espionage act. Maybe conspiracy to commit "computer intrusion" (as part of the Chelsea Manning breach).
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
You find Venezula objectionable but when I post anything about Honduras -- and the right wing thugs brought in with a Clinton/Obama coup -- nothing. They don't imprison their political opponents, they murder them -- with the help of the US.

Would you shut the **** up what I do and don't care about like you have a fucking clue?

I was on here brow beating Habsy over Honduras and US (recent) history in central America a couple of weeks ago comrade, settle down.

If you're not going to keep up, shut up.
 

BeLeafer

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Here's some details on Venezula's 'political prisoners' you won't find in corporate media:

The broad umbrella of those whom the opposition consider to be political prisoners fit into these three categories; 1) officials (largely police officers) who have been tried, found guilty and sentenced for their participation in the 2002 massacre and coup attempt against Chavez which left 29 people dead and hundreds injured; 2) Politicians and student leaders who are being accused of inciting violence during the isolated guarimba protests from February to May of this year, which resulted in 41 deaths, including nine deaths of security forces 3) Those who have been detained and brought in for questioning due to suspicions over their involvement in the trafficking of contraband (basic goods that should be sold with adherence to strict price controls but, are instead being sold in an informal and speculative market in Venezuela or trafficked across the Colombian border for a profit.) Additionally, there are members of the political class such as Judge María Lourdes Afiuni, who was sentenced after allowing a businessman convicted on corruption charges to exit her courtroom in order to flee the country.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
Here's some details on Venezula's 'political prisoners' you won't find in corporate media:



Would you kindly get your other lefty ass source to read this lefty ass source, because the last lefty ass source called the guy released a "political prisoner". I didn't choose the term, your source did.
 
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