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Galchenyuk's Ice Time

Krustchev said:
Radulov's ice time is also limited, by first line ice time standards. Does he take face-offs too? The coach's love affair was with overachievers up front is beyond the pale. It's flat out revolting. The guy is just a moron.
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Once I came to the conclusion that Mad Mike has no real freedom of action regarding his lineup, my life became simpler.

Wouldn't shock me in the least if he has orders from upstairs not to play him too much out of fear he will do even better and it will cost the organization in terms of payment on next contract
 
Habs-25 said:
If he manages to become decent on winning faceoff, he can play on P.K and get more minutes and more goals/assists maybe.
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On a team that can't score and has such issues getting offence from centres, just give him 18+ offensive minutes a game, and still let others play PK.
 
Galchenyuk's defensively incompetent need to accept it - it'll take time for him to develop that aspect of his game to bring him to NHL avg, he doesn't possess natural defensive abilities.

Plekanec & DD have been given ample opportunities on the PP and haven't contributed time to move on. the solution to more TOI is simple, double shift Galchenyuk on the PP that's another 2-3 min per game. Taking him to 19+ min.
 
Sal_Butera said:
Galchenyuk's defensively incompetent need to accept it - it'll take time for him to develop that aspect of his game to bring him to NHL avg, he doesn't possess natural defensive abilities.

Plekanec & DD have been given ample opportunities on the PP and haven't contributed time to move on. the solution to more TOI is simple, double shift Galchenyuk on the PP that's another 2-3 min per game. Taking him to 19+ min.
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Dont think he is that bad , he isnt Bergeron by any means but shit I have seen worse . Have you seen any Dallas games this year , their forwards barely play pond defensive hockey.
 
It is somewhat amusing that we give Chucky crap for his face-off ability, and I realize that Plekanec probably has a higher win percentage but Pleks is downright awful at winning important face-offs such as starting the PK in our end or on the PP in their end.

I think if AG's time is being limited based on his face-off reputation with our coach then that is ludicrous. Either he is a center and has to learn to win face-offs by taking them in NHL games or he shouldn't be a center but he needs to get more ice time either way.
 
GEEMAN said:
Dont think he is that bad , he isnt Bergeron by any means but shit I have seen worse . Have you seen any Dallas games this year , their forwards barely play pond defensive hockey.
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Galchenyuk possesses sub par aptitude - makes same mistakes over & over. Kopitar, Datsyuk etc. were not gifted defensive forwards when they started, but their ability to learn on the fly was evident with a couple of seasons. Kopitar by his 3rd NHL season was already above avg defensively, now he's up there with Bergeron, and Datsyuk was in league of his own. I get that gifted offensive talent never had to learn to play D because they always had the puck & were dominant with it during their development cycle, but didn't Galchenyuk stop taking faceoffs in junior because he was subpar and moved to the wing at one point during his final season?
 
Sal_Butera said:
Galchenyuk possesses sub par aptitude - makes same mistakes over & over. Kopitar, Datsyuk etc. were not gifted defensive forwards when they started, but their ability to learn on the fly was evident with a couple of seasons. Kopitar by his 3rd NHL season was already above avg defensively, now he's up there with Bergeron, and Datsyuk was in league of his own. I get that gifted offensive talent never had to learn to play D because they always had the puck & were dominant with it during their development cycle, but didn't Galchenyuk stop taking faceoffs in junior because he was subpar and moved to the wing at one point during his final season?
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Would we be better with a top 2 of Kopitar-Chuckie and regular starting goalie (Jones for example), or Chuckie-Pleks and Price ?
 
Sal_Butera said:
Galchenyuk possesses sub par aptitude - makes same mistakes over & over. Kopitar, Datsyuk etc. were not gifted defensive forwards when they started, but their ability to learn on the fly was evident with a couple of seasons. Kopitar by his 3rd NHL season was already above avg defensively, now he's up there with Bergeron, and Datsyuk was in league of his own. I get that gifted offensive talent never had to learn to play D because they always had the puck & were dominant with it during their development cycle, but didn't Galchenyuk stop taking faceoffs in junior because he was subpar and moved to the wing at one point during his final season?
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Kopitar got big minutes right away so he could have a steeper learning curve. Galchenyuk, on the other hand, was given next to no ice time. He sat and watched while the imbecile behind the bench played the crap out of 14 and 51. On a Therrien-coached team, the only thing a rookie learns is that if he makes a mistake he'll get even less ice time than he's getting now. Anything else he learns is by accident, not by design.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Kopitar got big minutes right away so he could have a steeper learning curve. Galchenyuk, on the other hand, was given next to no ice time. He sat and watched while the imbecile behind the bench played the crap out of 14 and 51. On a Therrien-coached team, the only thing a rookie learns is that if he makes a mistake he'll get even less ice time than he's getting now. Anything else he learns is by accident, not by design.
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Yet both Crosby & Malkin developed under MT from their rookie year despite starting on the wing like Galchenyuk.
 
Sal_Butera said:
Yet both Crosby & Malkin developed under MT from their rookie year despite starting on the wing like Galchenyuk.
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Oh please. Don't even try to give Therrien any credit for "developing" those two guys. They arrived as fully-formed pros right out of the box. They were the epitome of "plug-n-play" and they would have become elite with any coach or even with no coaching at all.
 
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