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The (Around the League) Playoffs Thread

I don't know. Babcock loves guys that work hard and are good people. Thats basically all he talks about.

I think there were just better players. And Babs does his L/R thing. Canada has a ton of great right dmen. Doughty, Weber, Burns, Pietrangelo, Subban. Letang doesn't even get a sniff.
 
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CH1 said:
would you include Mike Babcock in that group? He was not a Subban fan when given the chance as late as 2016. And went out of his way to list the qualities he admired in Weber.

"He (Weber) doesn’t have to say much. He just has to look at you and you snap into shape. He cuts a big swath out there. He shoots it so hard, no one wants to stand in his way.
“What I like about him best, when he walks in the dressing room, you know it’s business. He’s a cultured type person. He makes your franchise better when he walks in the door.”
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babcock ain't perfect, and his love for muckers goes overboard oftentimes.

team canada would be better with subban.
 
CH1 said:
of course not...I was just asking Zeke if he considered Babcock as part of the old time hockey establishment who frowns on PK's character
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I don't think we can really know what Babcock thinks about PK's character. The fact that he likes the way Weber carries himself isn't necessarily a shot a Subban, and those comments are pretty typical Babcockian fare about Weber being a "good man" and a hard worker, which you'd have to expect he'd say about a player that he's won two championships with.

All we do know is that Babcock, in sticking to his rigid insistence on maintaining LHD-RHD pairings whenever possible, preferred Shea Weber, Drew Doughty & Alex Pietrangelo on the right side of his defense pairings on the 2014 Olympic team. Which I'm not really sure you can make much of an argument about.

We also know that PK wasn't a part of Babcock's 2016 World Cup team at all. Though again, as much as I would personally like to see PK in there, I'm not sure you can argue too much with him going back to the three mainstays of the right side of his defense from the 2014 Olympics, plus Brent Burns.

And looking at how he's run the Leaf bench, while he does have some old school hockey guy mentality (hello, Matt Martin), he did take a big and immediate liking to Nazem Kadri & Jake Gardiner as soon as he arrived in Toronto. And it barely took him any time at all watching Mitch Marner or William Nylander before he knew for sure that both would be important parts of his regular roster this year.
 
LeafGm said:
Yeah, if you're a crusty old "pure laine Quebequois" that hated PK because he didn't pronounce his name as "Pay Kay", and because he didn't play the white way. Or if you're an english or any other variety of Hab fan that bought into all the "leadership" and "character" nonsense Bergevin was spouting when he made the trade.

Or if you're an "old school hockey guy" who thought the nerds should all put their spreadsheets away, and of course the trade was great, because Weber's got a big slap-shot, is tough to play against, and that PK Subban is a defensive liability that you just can't trust defensively...well, hopefully all of those people will choke on a PK Subban finals appearance or Cup win juxtaposed with Weber's Habs going out in the first round against a team the Sens beat fairly easily the next round.

For those Hab fans that hated the trade and/or loved Subban though, I get not being bothered by him having success. It's a bit of a different situation, because I still think trading him was the right decision and it's worked out for everyone involved, but I quite enjoyed watching Phil lift the Cup last year.
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The funny thing is that Weber fans think he's so much better defensively than Subban cause PK loses the puck once in awhile while "trying to do too much" by skating the puck out of the zone rather than passing it. Meanwhile, there were many times this season that Weber made a bad pass and gave the puck away in the defensive zone, and sometimes it ended up in the net.

Old school fans don't seem to get how important having the puck on your stick is. That's the best defense.
 
leafman101 said:
I don't know. Babcock loves guys that work hard and are good people. Thats basically all he talks about.

I think there were just better players. And Babs does his L/R thing. Canada has a ton of great right dmen. Doughty, Weber, Burns, Pietrangelo, Subban. Letang doesn't even get a sniff.
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I don't know if anyone fits that description better than Subban.
 
lmao.

pens spend the whole period in ottawa's end and outchance them about 10-1.

Hughson/Simpson: "FRUSTRATED pens are FRUSTRATED SO FRUSTRATED the pens are FRUSTRATED......BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD"


other canadian fans will never understand the shit we have to deal with.
 
This is why I just watch the games on NBC when Hughson & Simpson are calling the game.

Though I switch back to HNIC for the intermissions.
 
Cherry's way of showing the Sens some support:


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zeke said:
lmao.

pens spend the whole period in ottawa's end and outchance them about 10-1.

Hughson/Simpson: "FRUSTRATED pens are FRUSTRATED SO FRUSTRATED the pens are FRUSTRATED......BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD"


other canadian fans will never understand the shit we have to deal with.
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Milbury was going on about the Penguins having a hangover from the Caps series.

Wasn't that goal like the Sens only decent chance?
 
zeke said:
lmao.

pens spend the whole period in ottawa's end and outchance them about 10-1.

Hughson/Simpson: "FRUSTRATED pens are FRUSTRATED SO FRUSTRATED the pens are FRUSTRATED......BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD"


other canadian fans will never understand the shit we have to deal with.
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You are ghey.
 
I don't get the criticism of Malkin tonight. I think it was Hrudey. To me it just seems like a typical thing they say about Europeans whether it's true or not.

Edit. Sorry it was Kypreos.
 
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Kypreos was also saying this kind of inconsistent playoff performance is why Malkin didn't make the NHL's top-100 list.

Like, what?

Dude's got 6 goals & 19 points in 13 playoff games this year, two Stanley Cup championships, a Conn Smythe trophy, and 148 points in 137 career playoff games.
 
LeafGm said:
Kypreos was also saying this kind of inconsistent playoff performance is why Malkin didn't make the NHL's top-100 list.

Like, what?

Dude's got 6 goals & 19 points in 13 playoff games this year, two Stanley Cup championships, a Conn Smythe trophy, and 148 points in 137 career playoff games.
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Oops you're right. 13 games. He's been great.
 
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