CaptainBolduke
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
We're not getting Toews.
We're not getting Toews.
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Elliotlaker
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
Let get the conversation headed in a different direction!!
NYR/Habs talking to CHI re: Anisimov, Duchene to Hawks?
July 14, 2017, 12:34 PM ET [85 Comments]
Eklund
Start here today. As is often true regarding many Fridays in July, there is a very discernible pick up in action in the Rumor Mill today...
Anisimov?
The word is out that the Hawks will entertain offers, and are entertaining discussions at least with the NY Rangers and Montreal Canadiens regarding Anisimov...Both teams have a big weaknesses that could be filled by Anisimov and the question remains....why would the Hawks move Anisimov?
The rumor is the Hawks may have something going with Colorado regarding Duchene but they need to not only clear space but get a draft pick that Colorado wants...
Let get the conversation headed in a different direction!!
NYR/Habs talking to CHI re: Anisimov, Duchene to Hawks?
July 14, 2017, 12:34 PM ET [85 Comments]
Eklund
Start here today. As is often true regarding many Fridays in July, there is a very discernible pick up in action in the Rumor Mill today...
Anisimov?
The word is out that the Hawks will entertain offers, and are entertaining discussions at least with the NY Rangers and Montreal Canadiens regarding Anisimov...Both teams have a big weaknesses that could be filled by Anisimov and the question remains....why would the Hawks move Anisimov?
The rumor is the Hawks may have something going with Colorado regarding Duchene but they need to not only clear space but get a draft pick that Colorado wants...
GrandWazoo
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
If you look at some comparable, let's say Bergeron (7), Stastny (7), O'Reilly (7.5), Kesler (7), 8M is not really a stretch. Also Bergeron is quite a bargain at that price.
Habs-25
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
I don't mind Toews either, i mean this organization struggle to find a half decent center for age. He is probably overpaid about 2 mil but anyway we have to pretty much overpay any impact player(we actually overpaid bunch of no impact players, ask Shaw, Emelin!!), i mean look at Price contract. Towes has 6 more years left at 10.5 avg and he is 29 and can give us between 55 to 65 points in next 4-5 years at least.
The only reason i don't see this happen is we have already two pretty long contract/amount with Weber and Price and Max will be the next so we need to move Weber contract before getting engaged to another pretty long term deal with such an amount.
I don't mind Toews either, i mean this organization struggle to find a half decent center for age. He is probably overpaid about 2 mil but anyway we have to pretty much overpay any impact player(we actually overpaid bunch of no impact players, ask Shaw, Emelin!!), i mean look at Price contract. Towes has 6 more years left at 10.5 avg and he is 29 and can give us between 55 to 65 points in next 4-5 years at least.
The only reason i don't see this happen is we have already two pretty long contract/amount with Weber and Price and Max will be the next so we need to move Weber contract before getting engaged to another pretty long term deal with such an amount.
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
I don't think anyone would claim that Stastny earns his $7m. The rest of those guys I take over Toews.
If Toews was a FA and we signed him to $7m I'd be happy. I'd think it was more than he's worth, but we'd have a good two way #1 centre.
I don't think anyone would claim that Stastny earns his $7m. The rest of those guys I take over Toews.
If Toews was a FA and we signed him to $7m I'd be happy. I'd think it was more than he's worth, but we'd have a good two way #1 centre.
GrandWazoo
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
Really?? For the same salary you would take them over Toews??? The only one who's close is Bergeron but even then I would prefer Toews.
Really?? For the same salary you would take them over Toews??? The only one who's close is Bergeron but even then I would prefer Toews.
Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
At even money... I think he's in that group sans Stastny.
I meant at all of their current salaries.
At even money... I think he's in that group sans Stastny.
BKerr
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GrandWazoo
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
Of course, I was making an argument for saying that his realistic salary would probably be around $8M. I think he's a solid notch above O'Reilly and Kesler and a small one over Bergeron. Stastny is also the only guy on that group who went to free agency. If Toews would be FA, he's probably command close to 8.5-9.
Of course, I was making an argument for saying that his realistic salary would probably be around $8M. I think he's a solid notch above O'Reilly and Kesler and a small one over Bergeron. Stastny is also the only guy on that group who went to free agency. If Toews would be FA, he's probably command close to 8.5-9.
Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
Why not just draft AA in the fourth round FFS.
Why not just draft AA in the fourth round FFS.
Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
I dunno... offensively he's not a step above any of them. And those guys are all defensive beasts too.
Past 2 seasons
Ryan O'Reilly - 143gp 41g 115p (82gp 24g 66p) 5th in 2016-17 Faceoff %
Jonathan Toews - 152gp 49g 116p (82gp 26g 63p) 17th in 2016-17 Faceoff %
Patrice Bergeron - 159gp 53g 121p (82gp 27g 62p) 3rd in 2016-17 Faceoff %
Ryan Kesler - 161gp 43g 111p (82gp 22g 57p) 6th in 2016-17 Faceoff %
I dunno... offensively he's not a step above any of them. And those guys are all defensive beasts too.
Past 2 seasons
Ryan O'Reilly - 143gp 41g 115p (82gp 24g 66p) 5th in 2016-17 Faceoff %
Jonathan Toews - 152gp 49g 116p (82gp 26g 63p) 17th in 2016-17 Faceoff %
Patrice Bergeron - 159gp 53g 121p (82gp 27g 62p) 3rd in 2016-17 Faceoff %
Ryan Kesler - 161gp 43g 111p (82gp 22g 57p) 6th in 2016-17 Faceoff %
Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
No GM would of let him walk . They won 3 cups and have been one of best teams in history over a 6 year stretch . You have no choice to keep your stars but Stan knows those contracts were going to be a bitch at some point.
He is easily an 8-8.5 mil player when clowns are making 6 mil and Marleau is making 6.5 almost 10 years older .
The problem is the cap has been flat the last 4 years , teams were expecting an 85 mil cap by now which would of made the contracts look better .
Like I said the next lockout will be over term and trade clauses , and if contracts now were 4-5 years no one makes a big deal over these contracts .
No GM would of let him walk . They won 3 cups and have been one of best teams in history over a 6 year stretch . You have no choice to keep your stars but Stan knows those contracts were going to be a bitch at some point.
He is easily an 8-8.5 mil player when clowns are making 6 mil and Marleau is making 6.5 almost 10 years older .
The problem is the cap has been flat the last 4 years , teams were expecting an 85 mil cap by now which would of made the contracts look better .
Like I said the next lockout will be over term and trade clauses , and if contracts now were 4-5 years no one makes a big deal over these contracts .
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Bergeron is the only one on that list even at his advanced age I take over JT . 3 cups got him and Kane 2-3 mil in extra money .
Bergeron is the only one on that list even at his advanced age I take over JT . 3 cups got him and Kane 2-3 mil in extra money .
Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
I take O'Reilly first
I take O'Reilly first
Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
KeslerI over Toews? Seriously?
BKerr
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Re: Rumours, Innuendos and Flat out B.S.: 2016-17 Edition
Thats a silly hope.
The idea that a FA season makes a player better just isn't true. Pretty much 1/2 of all players do worse than their career average in a contract year and 1/2 do better. There is no correlation to increased performance in contract years, its another one of those myths, just like clutch.
Thats a silly hope.
The idea that a FA season makes a player better just isn't true. Pretty much 1/2 of all players do worse than their career average in a contract year and 1/2 do better. There is no correlation to increased performance in contract years, its another one of those myths, just like clutch.