OT: American Politics
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blacksheep
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Wasn't Alexander the guy in big doodoo over the Syrian issue?
corksens
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Altair
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Yup.
But that's the best the conservatives can do at the moment.
Yup.
But that's the best the conservatives can do at the moment.
corksens
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
The F-35 issue also isn't Bairds to wear. The Liberals bought into it, he continued to follow the advise of military advisors.
Even then you are painting two ministers tenure with their potentially worst moment. Kind of lame.
See, this is what happens when the media manufactures a "scandal". The TWF was a nothing issue. It's a huge government program, and like most, some people are going to find a way to abuse it. That's not Kenney's fault.
The F-35 issue also isn't Bairds to wear. The Liberals bought into it, he continued to follow the advise of military advisors.
Even then you are painting two ministers tenure with their potentially worst moment. Kind of lame.
corksens
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-middle-class-tax-cut-refugees-1.3264339
Can't believe you guys want to vote for an actor like this. What a complete fake.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-middle-class-tax-cut-refugees-1.3264339
Can't believe you guys want to vote for an actor like this. What a complete fake.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
It really wasn't.
He was the minister over seeing the portfolio when the changes were made...the buck stops at him, no?
LOL, the Liberals did it first.
Baird could have tapped out, or not sole sourced it at the minimum. Not disclosing costs to Parliament was a nice touch as well. You seem to be really willing to pass blame on to others for things that occurred under both ministers. Sure, the Liberals signed on to an international agreement to help develop a fight jet....not a terrible idea. By the time the development started to go off the rails, we had lots of time to pull out.
We're pointing out that the two biggest single programs under either minister's guidance were tire fires. I mean, this is more or less the same thing as being impressed by a house because the counters and appliances are nice, while the roof is on fire.
It really wasn't.
He was the minister over seeing the portfolio when the changes were made...the buck stops at him, no?
LOL, the Liberals did it first.
Baird could have tapped out, or not sole sourced it at the minimum. Not disclosing costs to Parliament was a nice touch as well. You seem to be really willing to pass blame on to others for things that occurred under both ministers. Sure, the Liberals signed on to an international agreement to help develop a fight jet....not a terrible idea. By the time the development started to go off the rails, we had lots of time to pull out.
We're pointing out that the two biggest single programs under either minister's guidance were tire fires. I mean, this is more or less the same thing as being impressed by a house because the counters and appliances are nice, while the roof is on fire.
JaysCyYoung
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Trudeau is a goddamn muppet. Governments always prioritize refugee acceptance and resettlement according to a triage system where vulnerable groups are put at the top of the list.
Trudeau is a goddamn muppet. Governments always prioritize refugee acceptance and resettlement according to a triage system where vulnerable groups are put at the top of the list.
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Still doesn't explain why the PMO was interfering with the process when it had already been taken care of.
Was the PMO in a better position to identify the most at risk or was there another reason for them to get involved?
Still doesn't explain why the PMO was interfering with the process when it had already been taken care of.
Was the PMO in a better position to identify the most at risk or was there another reason for them to get involved?
corksens
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
There was no personal vetting of families by Harper for some photo op.
It's nonsense.
There was a memo from US intelligence suggesting UN screened refugees posed a risk. Harper stopped the income process, and the PMO ordered an audit.
There was no personal vetting of families by Harper for some photo op.
It's nonsense.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
The only reason this is even an issue is because the Muslim lovers out there have an aversion to Christians receiving preferential treatment this time around due to vulnerability concerns.
You know, like the Bosniak/Albanian/Kosovar Muslims received during the Yugoslav Wars in the 1990s when they were the at-risk demographic.
The only reason this is even an issue is because the Muslim lovers out there have an aversion to Christians receiving preferential treatment this time around due to vulnerability concerns.
You know, like the Bosniak/Albanian/Kosovar Muslims received during the Yugoslav Wars in the 1990s when they were the at-risk demographic.
Altair
Well-known member
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Pretty much. It takes harper off message and forces him to play defense.
Is it that much if an issue? Meh. But as far as strategy goes, it's a good one.
Pretty much. It takes harper off message and forces him to play defense.
Is it that much if an issue? Meh. But as far as strategy goes, it's a good one.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Harper opened the door to this kind of shit with the nothing niqab issue....I have zero sympathy for him if Justin is able to bash him over the head with a nothing refugee issue and rides it into the PMO.
Harper opened the door to this kind of shit with the nothing niqab issue....I have zero sympathy for him if Justin is able to bash him over the head with a nothing refugee issue and rides it into the PMO.