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I'd probably do that deal, but I can't see why they would.

We do have to be careful and make a tough decision at center, though. if the organization thinks that we can get our # 2 and # 3 centers out of Grabovski-Stajan-Bozak-Mitchell, do we still spend money on a UFA like Savard, and where does Kadri fit in?

I guess the most likely plan would be UFA-Kadri-Bozak, while letting Stajan sign elsewhere. Mitchell and Wallin can fight over the # 4 spot. That just leaves Grabovski.
 
No thanks...significant injury history, too small, 32 years old, signed until he's 37 to 6.5 million.

As bad as our two albatross contracts are, a big no thanks to Briere. Don't bail Philly out of their mistake.
 
run it through CTB Decision Filter:

Question going in: Should we go after Daniel Briere?

Is there a need at his position?YES
Does he have the skills required to make us better?YES
Does his salary match his typical production level?YES
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Forget the almost meaningless playoffs...can you win a championship with him on the team? Unlikely....(as mentioned above) he would be part of a very small first line + he is too fragile

Final Decision: PASS!

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Savard is probably going to cost somewhere in that vicinity this summer, and is far superior to Briere.

There's absolutely no way I want Savard, Briere, Grabs, & Mitchell standing in Kadri's way next year at training camp.
 
???

You wouldn't want Savard on your team next year? Kadri would be best suited to start as a second line centre. Leaving Grabovski/Stajan to fight for the 3rd line.

Mitchell is a blockhead who can be easily moved.

Savard
Kadri
Stajan/Grabovski
4th line rubbish

That's pretty good down the middle.
 
he never said that. Assuming we get Savard, he, nor many other posters here, would want Briere on top of that. That would basically block Kardri from making an impact.
 
corksens said:
???

You wouldn't want Savard on your team next year? Kadri would be best suited to start as a second line centre. Leaving Grabovski/Stajan to fight for the 3rd line.

Mitchell is a blockhead who can be easily moved.

Savard
Kadri
Stajan/Grabovski
4th line rubbish

That's pretty good down the middle.
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I want Savard. I would do many bad things to make sure that the man signs in Toronto this summer.

It's Briere that I want no part of.
 
ahh. That makes more sense.

Kadri would get eaten alive as a starting 1st-line centre next year. You need a star player to a) tutor him, b) take the pressure off production wise, c) take on other teams top units.
 
MindzEye said:
No thanks...significant injury history, too small, 32 years old, signed until he's 37 to 6.5 million.

As bad as our two albatross contracts are, a big no thanks to Briere. Don't bail Philly out of their mistake.
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The interesting part is that's kind of the situation we'll be in if we sign Savard this offseason(minus the injury history). Of course, Briere's only put up one season I'd pay big bucks for, but on the other hand he never got to play with Kovalchuk(or Kessel, for that matter).
 
Corky is either forgetting about or assuming Tyler Bozak will remain in the AHL.

As for Briere, you pick him up only on the condition that he is the # 1 center, and Savard is out of your plans. It would be foolish to spend the money required on both guys, with the depth players we have at the position.
 
Agreed entirely...and Savard is that guy, Briere isn't.

I'm assuming that Stajan is traded at the deadline this year honestly, so I'm expecting/hoping to see

Savard
Kadri
Grabs
Mitchell

as our centres next year
 
I didn't forget about Bozak. I just don't know where he slides in for you guys.

Savard makes the absolute most sense. Then Kadri. Then Gabovski or Stajan. The 4th line is up for grabs, but that isn't ideal for Bozak.

It kinda makes you wonder why he signed with the Leafs. They don't have the best centres in the league...but they have alot of natural C's.
 
Waiting for Marc Savard is also a risk, cause he could easily re-sign with Boston or move elsewhere. Still, I'm willing to wait, you can always revisit a Briere trade in the summer if need be.
 
Bozak has second-line center upside. He throws a wrench into the whole thing, but I suppose we can't count on him just yet. That's why I slotted him in at # 3 center.
 
Volcanologist said:
The interesting part is that's kind of the situation we'll be in if we sign Savard this offseason(minus the injury history). Of course, Briere's only put up one season I'd pay big bucks for, but on the other hand he never got to play with Kovalchuk(or Kessel, for that matter).
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Savard put up 96 points in his first season in Boston with an old ass Glen Murray (45 points) and Marco Sturm (44 points) on his line...then put 78 in 74 games up the following season with Sturm & Murray/19goal Phil Kessel

Of course though, regardless of what he did without Kovalchuk or last season's dynamic Phil Kessel...he would have dynamic Phil Kessel to play with in Toronto.
 
Bozak will likely fit in as the 3rd line centre in that scenerio, as Grabovski can and very likely will have to move to the wing to have a future on this team, imo.

His improvements in the face-off circle complicate the matter, but he doesn't seem like a smart enough player to last down the middle and while he gives the effort, his defensive awareness and positioning on the ice doesn't suit him well as an ideal fit down the middle.

Bozak on the other hand, is the exact opposite and could very well be the 2nd line centre next year if he continues to develop (assuming we miss out on Savard).
 
axlsalinger said:
Waiting for Marc Savard is also a risk, cause he could easily re-sign with Boston or move elsewhere. Still, I'm willing to wait, you can always revisit a Briere trade in the summer if need be.
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The thing is, as a stand alone move, the Briere move doesn't make sense. He's really a 65-75 point centre who isn't going to lead you to a championship, but is paid pretty premium money.

Honestly, I'd rather Marleau as a younger/better option who we could probably get at the same money as Briere and who is quite likely to hit free agency.

As an aside...Marc Savard is quite likely to hit free agency...Boston has ****ed themselves for cap space.
 
leaffan2005 said:
Bozak will likely fit in as the 3rd line centre in that scenerio, as Grabovski can and very likely will have to move to the wing to have a future on this team, imo.

His improvements in the face-off circle complicate the matter, but he doesn't seem like a smart enough player to last down the middle and while he gives the effort, his defensive awareness and positioning on the ice doesn't suit him well as an ideal fit down the middle.

Bozak on the other hand, is the exact opposite and could very well be the 2nd line centre next year if he continues to develop (assuming we miss out on Savard).
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Kadri must be your 2nd line C.

He can't start on the 1st line next year and he isn't a 3rd line kinda guy. He'll get run over.
 
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