Michel Therrien
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CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
We're not an automatic top 4 team in the league.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Because those 2 guys are a cut above our top guy, Max. They have a ton of dep. You think Weise gets top 6 mins over there.
Rolex
Canadiens Moderator
Well...they also have Keith at below market value signed for like 12 years...Hossa signed for 13 years....
But they don't have a goalie....not an elite one at least...
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
They tanked properly - got Toews and Kane back to back. We were Chuckie and done.
XPOFAN
New member
I thought you felt Toews is overated
Rolex
Canadiens Moderator
He is...but he's still better than the 2 picks that went before him from the 2006 NHL draft
XPOFAN
New member
Would you trade Max for him
Rolex
Canadiens Moderator
I love my centers....so yes.....
I'd trade PK for Malkin....but not sure Molson would let Bergy do it. Malkin is not as marketable as Subban, and Molson loves his profits
GGpX
Well-known member
Water's wet.
Their depth is created from Kane & Toews being under market value, Hossa & Keith signing those pre-lockout deals. They can afford their depth.
Point is, Chicago's window is closing for their time as a perennial Cup contender this year. They'll contend from time to time, but they're no longer going to be the pre-season favorites going into every year like they have previously.
The Habs' window is 3 more years. Subban's at $9M for 7 more seasons, but Price at $6.5M ends in two seasons and MaxPac at $4.5M ends in three season. Price is going to be the highest paid goalie in the world, I would guess around ~$8.5-9M AAV and Max is going to make between what Patrick Kane & Phil Kessel make, probably around the $8M to $9M range. All in all, we'll go from paying them $20M combined to roughly $27M combined. That's one third of the cap.
Rolex
Canadiens Moderator
Cap will probably be higher in 3 years.
But I agree...people don't realize how fairly cheap we have our top players signed (except Subban)...
GGpX
Well-known member
In the large scheme of things I can't, but I do know that MaxPac & Price won't be on those sweet deals anymore and we'll have to pay them full value. They'll no longer be some of the best bargains in the NHL.
And frankly, that's how you win these days. You can't win with everyone being paid their just values, you need to get players who are underpaid on their contracts. You need ELC players with high impact. You need players signed to long term deals when young so that you can get the best bang for buck possible so that you can create room to acquire depth. And most importantly, you can't have salary cap anchors like Brandon Prust, Lars Eller & Alexei Emelin on your team, players who are grossly overpaid relative to what they bring in return. If Eller made $2M, Prust $1.25M and Emelin $2.5M, they would be paid at what would be roughly their fair value. With the ~$4.25M saved on those three, you have the money to sign or trade for a top-4 d-man or a second line winger.
And frankly, that's how you win these days. You can't win with everyone being paid their just values, you need to get players who are underpaid on their contracts. You need ELC players with high impact. You need players signed to long term deals when young so that you can get the best bang for buck possible so that you can create room to acquire depth. And most importantly, you can't have salary cap anchors like Brandon Prust, Lars Eller & Alexei Emelin on your team, players who are grossly overpaid relative to what they bring in return. If Eller made $2M, Prust $1.25M and Emelin $2.5M, they would be paid at what would be roughly their fair value. With the ~$4.25M saved on those three, you have the money to sign or trade for a top-4 d-man or a second line winger.